posted February 26, 2019 11:37 AM            

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Originally posted by MarsSaturnDelight:
Thanks, Aries!

Would love a chart reading from you at some point

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If you ask a question about an area of life(as the case here) the interpretation can be narrowed to a tangible answer.

But if its more generic, it can be problematic. As the chart has so much to say about so many things on so many different levels.

So it is possible for the interpretor to ramble on for pages and pages without being relevant(and ever more vague). All because they are trying to cover so many areas thoroughly all at once.

posted February 26, 2019 11:58 AM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
If you ask a question about an area of life(as the case here) the interpretation can be narrowed to a tangible answer.

But if its more generic, it can be problematic. As the chart has so much to say about so many things on so many different levels.

So it is possible for the interpretor to ramble on for pages and pages without being relevant(and ever more vague). All because they are trying to cover so many areas thoroughly all at once.

So ask a question and the answer can be looked at through the question in the chart.

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No problem, I get that. Thanks.

posted February 26, 2019 12:06 PM            

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Originally posted by kani:
Thank you. And yes I do feel motherhood is a form of entrapment.
Just curious: how can you see my Draco positions without my birth data? And Draco MC is at 18 Scorpio (I just checked) while Lilith (natal) is at 8 Scorpio. Do you still count this as a conjunction or what did you mean with "on top".?
Thanks again

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posted February 26, 2019 12:16 PM            

Although since a few years before and now after my saturn return, my views have changed. Some of my views have changed, and some have been matured, refined and crystallized (saturn).

I do believe in some gender roles. I don't believe males should be more previliged etc. But I'm not a feminist.

I'm for equality and justice.

I believe males should have a more "protective" role. I get off put by non-manly or emasculated males.

Somethings they are better at physically or neurogically etc. I have no problem letting a man take the lead. Infact I'm so plutonc and marsian, I need a man that has a heaviness and strong masculinity in order for me to not be too dominant, I have found. I lose respect in males not being males so to speak. No offence anyone, I'm just talking about my energies etc, its not like I choose this, this is my core being.

I don't get all fiered up about patriotism etc anymore. I have "matured" very much in my views. Before in my 20thies, themes like this was all black or white. Now I see it in shades of grey.

posted February 26, 2019 12:34 PM            

His asc is Aquarius. 1th house intercepted by 3 signs. His moon is Aries square mars and neptune. Opposite Venus in Libra.

But well, he is veeery approachable . He is often very friendly, like there is something, vulnurable about him even though he is a muscular strong man.

I get protective feelings around him, maybe his moon in 1th. (Or due to our synastry). If you guys know the tv show "Chicago fire" and the character "Severide". Like he often have this closed off, but vulnurable expression on his face, just like that. Severide is played by Taylor Kinney, and he has Cancer sun, capricorn moon, so that explains that expression I believe.
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My friend, he is, so easy to read, his moods I mean. And when he is happy he is very jovial (jupiter in 1th too). But he can have mood swings, but not nearly as often as my mood swings.

Although his mood swings, lasts very long sometimes. Like, he is often your typical loveable libra venus.

So when there is a change in his inner life, one can sense and see it very easily.

He will be all, weirdly saturnian distant (or uranian?). And one can see he is bothered by "something".

Like he is irritated, but its to deep down and he can't let it out. I don't know how to explain it.

For ex I will show my irritation very openly and it will also past easily often times. But when he gets moody, he will not stop smiling etc, but he will be avoidant, and snappy but in a libra polite way!

Or he is cold but warm ad then cold dunno its very very weird. All that aries, uranian and marsian and neptunian energies. (Leo sun)

I get exhausted just thinking about it haha

Sorry if I was off topic!

posted February 26, 2019 12:35 PM            

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Originally posted by Melinn:

I'm for equality and justice.

I believe males should have a more

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Feminism is about equality. I don't believe in that narrative that feminism supposedly wants women to have more rights than men. It's about equal opportunity and there still isn't such a thing in the world. Not even in Europe where you and I live (although Sweden is said to be a very progressive country in this respect), I'm not even gonna start on some other countries in the 3rd world and their treatment of women.

What do you classify as an "emasculated man"?
I also need a guy with a strong backbone. Maybe that is why I try and test them in the beginning and provoke them into arguments. I wanna see how they react.

posted February 26, 2019 01:50 PM            

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Originally posted by kani:
Feminism is about equality. I don't believe in that narrative that feminism supposedly wants women to have more rights than men. It's about equal opportunity and there still isn't such a thing in the world. Not even in Europe where you and I live (although Sweden is said to be a very progressive country in this respect), I'm not even gonna start on some other countries in the 3rd world and their treatment of women.

What do you classify as an "emasculated man"?
I also need a guy with a strong backbone. Maybe that is why I try and test them in the beginning and provoke them into arguments. I wanna see how they react.

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Yes I can see martian energy etc manifest like that, provocative. Maybe also your mercury being in aqua, in 8th trine pluto, and your mars-sun conjunction makes you wanna test males like that?

I have pluto oppsoite sun-merc, but my sun is taurus, I think it helps keep me down to earth. I never test/challenge guys, but I observe them closely, backbone is important.

But as an aries stellium person (in 8th) and mars-moon, I actually need a CALM guy. He can not have the fierceness I have, because then we would argue and set each other on fire...
I would believe its the same for you Kani!
You would need a strong but not a too firy or marsian guy.

I think thats why I always attract Libra venus guys or calm guys. Calm but with a backbone is what I need. Saturn is my second strong planet after pluto. Saturnian energy is good for that. Its backbone and calmness, and with a bit fire it can warm the rigid coldness up lol. Balance is the key..

posted February 26, 2019 01:55 PM            

Good job!

posted February 26, 2019 01:57 PM            

I can only say that, swedish guys (I'm not swedish but born and raised here) are one of the meekest and one of the most emasculated males in the world. Its due to many complex factors of course but also all that strong equality agenda have emasculated guys here. I won't go too much into detail but well thats the case.

Equality justice wise is important and should not even be a question. But when you take it down to psychology, the feminism stuff and the "we women can take care of ourselves we don't need anyone" attitude really has killed the fire in males here.

As Jordan Peterson also points this out, equality agenda in Sweden has created more and bigger clefts between males and females.

Also equality is not=justice when we look at the swedish system. The females works as much as males, at the same time they make babies, have to raise them, come home and make the home a home by cooking, cleaning and at the same time they have to feel fullfilled because hey, there is equality, I'm finally a woman working in the same fields as men, I'm a part of the sociaty. Yes but you are being used. You are doing double, tripple as much as a man and still a man is seen as the "better" and stronger sex while you as woman still do not get the recognition you deserve. Its still not equal. Its capitalism, of course its much better when the women also works, the systeme have much more to gain by this set up... sigh. We can't win whatever we do. The system will use us in any shape or form anyway...

But back to meek males, I think its hard to integrate equality etc because either guys does not accept it fully, or they accept it "to much" so imbalances occure. Anyways I'm not the right person to talk about thise stuff with my limited english and wordings :/

posted February 26, 2019 02:17 PM            

He has times when he provokes me, too though but he is nowhere near as firey as I am, because, you are right, that wouldn't work with me at all.

As for women working AND doing kids and the household all by themselves - that sure isn't equality. Why are the men not doing their fair share at home? And Jordan Peterson, I can't stand that guy, he has some really dated views, but each to their own.

posted February 26, 2019 03:13 PM            

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Originally posted by kani:
Melinn you perfectly described my boyfriend haha.
He is a strong guy but mostly calm and not easily angered (sun in Taurus ).
This is offtopic, but he told me earlier on that he is not good at receiving compliments. Would you say that's a Taurus trait? He has a Cap rising plus Saturn in the 1st so that might derive from there..

He has times when he provokes me, too though but he is nowhere near as firey as I am, because, you are right, that wouldn't work with me at all.

As for women working AND doing kids and the household all by themselves - that sure isn't equality. Why are the men not doing their fair share at home? And Jordan Peterson, I can't stand that guy, he has some really dated views, but each to their own.

Where are your roots (cause you said you are not ethnically Swedish..)?

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Aww he sounds perfect for you! hmm I think aries23 is much better at answering thise type of questions

In my experience as a taurus sun female, no I can take compliments, if its not fake. I can't stand fakeness and people being all adoring when they don't mean it. Other then that of course I like compliments, I think taureans would apreciate compliments very much. Being adored and all...

BUT males in general have already a hard time recieving compliments. It depends on many factors, society, the male culture, upbringing and personality.

I would believe its his saturn energy. For ex one of my guy friends, he can take genuine compliments, also he has no problems using his words to show graditude or appreciation. He is a mix of virgo-aries-plutonic. Cap rising.

The other guy I wrote about before, he can never take compliments, like never. He will look away and look uncomfy, but I know and feel he gets very happy, but he does not wanna show it because he hates arrogance and are afraid he will seem arrogant. Being saturnian among other things myself, I can see it and understand it well.

He has Leo sun, square saturn. And moon trine saturn. He also will not show me apreciation via words, he will show it by actions only.

He does like personal attention and warmth very much though, he will beam like sunshine when one gives him genuine warm attention <3

I know, I don't like Peterson like that either, I just like his way of stating his views and he is correct in his view about swedish guys and equalities backside. But I don't agree fully. Also I admire how he handles other people during interviews, like he won't back down but he won't be a jerk either, anyways.

posted February 27, 2019 02:58 AM            

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Originally posted by aamhz:
@kani: What is NN 2H like?

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Issues with financial resources all my life basically that extend to basic survival issues (including root chakra probalems and their accompanying physical ailments). Starting with my childhood where my father didn't stop whining that there is not enough money for us (even though he splashed out on other stuff not concerning his family) that resulted in an innate existential fear. I'm self employed and I never had a good feel about how much money I can ask for my work. I'm totally crap at that. no feeling for the value of my work - also stems from my childhood. Especially if the work I do is making me happy (I'm a script writer so it does).
I'm highly educated and even though I know I work in a business that is not gonna make me rich over night (which I never expected anyway), I would have expected to have more stable resources by now. I'm definitely getting better with it though but it has been an annoyance for long periods of my life. I had to rely on other people's good will to survive and I hate that. For example a friend of mine took me in her house and fed me for 4 months, otherwise I would have ended up sleeping on the streets. Of course I'm extremely grateful for her and for what she did but being in that situation was still hella uncomfortable.

posted February 27, 2019 05:40 AM            

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Originally posted by aamhz:
^ Great post, kani!

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posted February 27, 2019 03:09 PM            

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Originally posted by Aries Eagle:
I would say its your cancer moon in 1st .. they dont let anybody to enter their circle.

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posted February 27, 2019 05:04 PM            

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Originally posted by kani:
Do you have NN in the 2nd house, too?

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No, but I saw the themes of SN (safety net, yet feeling bad indulging in it) 8H (others resources), and NN (struggle-yet-aspiration-to...) 2H (own/self value(s)) very clearly. I'm not that good at putting 2 and 2 together sometimes, so your post was a great help - I now know what themes to look for when I see it.

posted February 28, 2019 12:48 PM            

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Originally posted by aamhz:
No, but I saw the themes of SN (safety net, yet feeling bad indulging in it) 8H (others resources), and NN (struggle-yet-aspiration-to...) 2H (own/self value(s)) very clearly. I'm not that good at putting 2 and 2 together sometimes, so your post was a great help - I now know what themes to look for when I see it.

Also I knew someone with NN 1H, and what you described was spot-on there, for my person.

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Another thing that I'd like to add is that I think the reason I like Taurus energy so much is because they are so good at finances. They are good with their own resources, keeping them and growing them.
They reflect my NN in a way. NN is in Leo as well though and my profession as a script writer and film maker ties into it so earning my money through this profession is my life goal. I already earn money with it but it could be (and will be) more

Edit: I just realised my youngest sister has her Mercury on my North Node and it explains so much. Our communication is brilliant (even though our mercs are in opposite signs) and she teaches me a lot with the way she sees things

posted February 28, 2019 01:21 PM            

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Originally posted by mercmercy99:
I can't help but notice that Pluto square Ascendant. I have that too and I feel like it makes it hard for people to get to know me because I can be so distant and standoffish. I'm sure my Aquarius rising doesn't help either. Must be an outer planet thing.

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Yeah I was thinking that, too. It makes people feel like there is an invisible wall around us that prevents them from approaching us (of course there are always exceptions).
I've noticed that when people look into my eyes the first time they quickly look away and sometimes even blush. After a while they calm down. And that's when I have my normal, friendly face (or what i would consider friendly haha).