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Hikaru29
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posted March 07, 2019 07:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hikaru29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Libra is not a good place for the Moon. The Moon likes water and deep feeling. It is at home in Cancer. Libra is an airy intellectual sign.

I don't suit water Moons though. I'm not as sensitive as them and might hurt their feelings.

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posted March 07, 2019 07:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hikaru29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Gracha:
My biggest romantic love was an Aries with libra moon conjunct Pluto. In the beginning he was very passionate exciting but the minute I didn't do as he wished, he left me because I couldn't at the time move to be near him fast enough. Like he checked out emotionally stopped planning get togethers, I asked why his response, "what is there left to say". I will never ever forget his behavior. When I moved on and started seeing a new guy he came back begging me not to see him and accusing me not having a sit down to work out issues, I kept it moving.

Btw im an Aries with Gemini moon. Controlling, manipulative, romantic jealous is how I experienced this guy. But he loved beauty and when we'd go out to dinner always felt like it was just the two of us in the room, he even remarked one time,"I feel like I've known you forever" funny because I was thinking the same thing in that exact moment. Don't over think with libra moon.


Gemini and Libra Moons should get along beautifully, isn't it?? Aries is impulsive so I'm not surprised he dropped you the moment he thinks he's not getting what he wants.

The manipulative behaviour is caused by Moon-Pluto due to their deep insecurities.

What do you mean by 'Don't over think with libra moon.'?

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posted March 07, 2019 08:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Melinn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Its not as simple as "air moons get along together etc"

We have to look at the whole chart and with moons we have to for ex look at what planets they are aspecting. For ex, someone with libra moon opposite saturn will be a very saturnian/capricornian moon .

And lets say that person is with a gemini moon that is opposite pluto, that persons moon will be very plutonian/scorpio.

So in short someone with a saturnian moon with someone who has a plutonian moon, let the cold war and mind games begin..

I'm over simplifying but you get the idea..
It depends also on other natal aspects, and how mature the persona are, how they are "handling" their moons shortcomings etc.


About the moon-mars natal squares, no I asked because people with moon-mars aspects have martian moons, meaning they get very defensive and prickly and they take hurtful actions very personally. They react very easily to emotional triggers, like aries is know to do.

This aspect makes it really challenging to "mentalize" situations. Mentalization is what therapist call it when we stop taking things personally and step out of our head space and emotional bubble. It is ment to help you to develop hypothesis about someones behavior and not to react and to ask the person to confirm your hypotehsis etc.

Yes air moons are suppose to do this, but nope, with other planets interweaving, their inner ability to do that suffers. One have to often mature in order to be able to handle this.

I'm not saying all the above is your moon, just explaining the hardships that can affect some.

For ex, after the initial honey moon phase ad weared off with me and my crush, I would walk in to the room and if he was not his usual warm and happy self towards me I would immidiately get hurt and start to think "he is denying me his warmth" and get upset and be so hurt because "why is he punishing me?!"
etc, so silly but in the moment that is how ones moon-mars may react.

It was the same with him as he has aries moon square mars. In the beginning, if the other was looking sad one was like "aww what are you thinking about? are you sad?".

But when emotions get complicated one is like "wtf now is he/she punishing me again", when the person infact maybe just wanted to have your attention and care... sigh.. its just such a mess.. and seems so silly when one steps back in retrospect.

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posted March 07, 2019 08:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Melinn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I love Leo energy! My guy has Leo sun BUT its square saturn so his not your usual leo. He will shine like a sun and be all attentive but he is more timid about it, like he don't "crave" others attention.

He is more passive and he will charm with his venus libra and always be polite and if you give back he will give back even more. But he is not a drama king or attention seeker etc.

But well, his sun is in his 7th and he has a 7th house stellium so thats normal.

The downside is when he lets his saturn out.. then he will be a cold saturn/capri. and hold in all his affection and warmth but one can see he is doing that of insecurity, like it does not feel as horrible as if it was a plutonian cutting you off haha

Gee I really wonder WHEN I will stop going on about this guy! I talk about him in almost everyone of my posts! I'm sick of it and sick of myself


I really hope your guy will come around after you guys had some space!

I'm so sorry you are going through this
I think he really does value you and need and want you.

He may not be enough mature to express it or know how to express it in healthy ways...

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posted March 07, 2019 11:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gracha     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Hikaru29:
Gemini and Libra Moons should get along beautifully, isn't it?? Aries is impulsive so I'm not surprised he dropped you the moment he thinks he's not getting what he wants.

The manipulative behaviour is caused by Moon-Pluto due to their deep insecurities.

What do you mean by 'Don't over think with libra moon.'?



Doesn't mean anything because of similar elements etc, aspects definitely count. Also his saturn sign and jupiter was in libra but not conjunct but he was very controlling. I would just let him be and he loved amd hated it at the same time. What I mean is not to keep analyzing his behaviour talk to him more about it don't give threats and if you're going to leave just do it.

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posted March 07, 2019 11:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hikaru29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Melinn:
About the moon-mars natal squares, no I asked because people with moon-mars aspects have martian moons, meaning they get very defensive and prickly and they take hurtful actions very personally. They react very easily to emotional triggers, like aries is know to do.

Yes, I get you. Our natal Moons bear many similar aspects actually - to Mars, Jupiter, Neptune & NN.

What you say about Moon-Mars is true. We can get defensive and easily hurt. I used to bottle up all my feelings and then explode but I've developed a stronger heart over the years and better at communication. I now talk nicely while in the past I would say something spiteful and storm off, lol. We both still have this tendency to call it a day when we come to a knot. One of us (usually him) would say "I wanna go home" and that ends the tension. The good thing about Moon-Mars is we don't bear grudges. We tend to forget why we were so angry after a day or two.


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I'm so sorry you are going through this
I think he really does value you and need and want you.

He may not be enough mature to express it or know how to express it in healthy ways...


Thanks for saying that, Melinn and you've been so nice sharing your stories with me. I really appreciate it.

What's up with your Leo guy now?

My ex has a Leo stellium and he's like a big boy, even at 40! But he's still ever so sweet to me. Maybe I should just patch back with him, lol.

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posted March 07, 2019 12:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hikaru29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Gracha:
What I mean is not to keep analyzing his behaviour talk to him more about it don't give threats and if you're going to leave just do it.

Yes, I plan to do that.

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posted March 08, 2019 06:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astra     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Hikaru29:
I've just walked away from a Libra Moon because I can't figure out how he feels. He will sometimes reveal deep emotions but will also quickly become cool and detached again. He seems unmoved by a lot of things. I told him I'm gonna leave him and his response was: "You're just saying...". He thinks I'm not serious or he doesn't care?

I cannot be with a lukewarm person. It's like singing a duet alone, it hurts and it's tiring.

The thing is he has a heavy water chart with Moon-Pluto, I really cannot believe his emotions are only so shallow.

Perhaps he really just doesn't care...


The good news is he sometimes reveals his emotions to you. This shows he does trust you on some level. The bad part is he will then completely clam up and shut down his emotions. His moon-pluto aspect is the big culprit. I know this because I have a harsh moon-pluto aspect. They only show the full extent of their emotions to someone they trust completely. Otherwise, they will keep their emotions n check. Moon-Pluto people are too keenly aware of how letting their down wall will leave them vulnerable. They feel everything too deeply. It's like walking around with your heart outsideyour body.

Walking away was the right thing for you to do. It's not responsibility to fix someone.

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posted March 08, 2019 07:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for kani     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Astra:
The good news is he sometimes reveals his emotions to you. This shows he does trust you on some level. The bad part is he will then completely clam up and shut down his emotions. His moon-pluto aspect is the big culprit. I know this because I have a harsh moon-pluto aspect. They only show the full extent of their emotions to someone they trust [b]completely. Otherwise, they will keep their emotions n check. Moon-Pluto people are too keenly aware of how letting their down wall will leave them vulnerable. They feel everything too deeply. It's like walking around with your heart outsideyour body.

Walking away was the right thing for you to do. It's not responsibility to fix someone.

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I think you are making a good point. I have a harsh moon pluto aspect (it's one of the tightest aspects in my chart) and I definitely do not open up easily and I only do so when I completely trust the person which is a rarity.
I can seem open, but that is just my open mind. With my emotions, that's just a completely different thing.

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posted March 08, 2019 11:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hikaru29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
How do I assure this Moon-Pluto that he can trust me? Sometimes it seems like he has something to say but he will pause in the middle of his sentence. And when he does say it I'm surprised by the feelings in him. But I've been gentle so far...just not sure how to react at times. He told me he likes talking to me and he tells me things he doesn't tell his friends. He's sensitive when I probe but that's because I wanna know what's wrong.

Actually I have experience dealing with Moon-Pluto because one of my closest friends of 20yrs has the square. I'm her closest confidant and she told me she cannot live without me (lol).

But this Libra Moon guy... his feelings are even deeper and more complex than my friend's. I think it's compounded by his Moon-Node.

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posted August 04, 2019 06:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hikaru29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Melinn:
If he has pluto-moon, it seems impossible he is not feeling deeply though?! Have you had power games or other mind games like issues before? It may activate lots of intense feeling in pluto-moon.

Also as a plutonic myself, I can say, space is much needed in order to process feelings. Like lots of space! For ex2-4 weeks or so depending...Maybe you should walk away, but tell him you are giving him and yourself some space?


I'm suddenly reading this old thread and Melinn, if you're still around, I just wanna tell you how spot-on you are that he needs space (and a push) to recognise his feelings.

The push was he found out about another guy. He then went completely silent for a week and then unleashed all his feelings on me like he was possessed. Went all green with jealousy.

This Libra Moon is only cold on the surface.

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