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Hikaru29
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posted March 04, 2019 03:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hikaru29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've just walked away from a Libra Moon because I can't figure out how he feels. He will sometimes reveal deep emotions but will also quickly become cool and detached again. He seems unmoved by a lot of things. I told him I'm gonna leave him and his response was: "You're just saying...". He thinks I'm not serious or he doesn't care?

I cannot be with a lukewarm person. It's like singing a duet alone, it hurts and it's tiring.

The thing is he has a heavy water chart with Moon-Pluto, I really cannot believe his emotions are only so shallow.

Perhaps he really just doesn't care...

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posted March 04, 2019 06:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Personally my least fav position is air Moon. Libra/Aqu being the least fav. Gemini also in there but not so close.

Lib Moon is typically even-tempered or mild. This especially when Saturn is on the Moon. Then it can make them as cool as a cucumber.

For you not to know how they feel is really how I have come to also feel about them. They seldom show a range of emotions. Not necessarily "robotic" but lukewarm. And I don't believe its their fault tbh.

I think its just how they are wired. Like there is an avoidance of extreme feelings of any kind (especially passion). So its hard to know where one stands with them.

i am in a similar predicament with an Aqua Sun/Virgo Moon and I think a Virgo/Libra Asc. There is more warmth from Antartica

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posted March 04, 2019 07:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lalafortunaea     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The scales on the moon gives someone a need to balance how they feel. That's what they struggle with most. It doesn't mean they don't have that passion or intensity, but they are trying to "iron it out", and so, if you want something else, then Libra moon might not be for you, because Libra moon's have a strong need to find emotional balance and become even-tempered, and mild. (might even like organizing and ironing, literally!)
Libra moon does well with some moons who need the smoothing out of Libra, or someone who doesn't like to stir things up too much, either (Capricorn moon + Libra often work well)

What is your own moon sign?


It's also likely that in your own chart, synastry wise, you're not "activating" something in this person that would otherwise change this "unloved" feeling you get, and stimulate more passion and expressiveness. But even then, The Libra moon will seek to balance that out, always.

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posted March 04, 2019 10:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
All in all "he's just not that into you"

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posted March 04, 2019 11:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Deltahydrus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am a Libra Moon female with a heavy water chart. I can relate to how this guy is acting. I agree with what was said that you are probably not activating the passionate side of him. I have been called "cold" before by some and then others would argue the exact opposite. It is an extreme balancing act that can truly cripple my world if those scales tip. I try as hard as I can to make sure they stay even. I'd also agree that he probably isn't invested with you to feel comfortable enough to show more emotion.

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posted March 04, 2019 11:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hikaru29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Lalafortunaea:

Libra moon does well with some moons who need the smoothing out of Libra, or someone who doesn't like to stir things up too much, either (Capricorn moon + Libra often work well)

What is your own moon sign?


Isn't Cap and Libra in square signs? How is this good? I've a Sag Moon.

He is verbally more expressive while I'm physically more affectionate. He gets affectionate sometimes but there's no consistency and I need that. A friend of his said he seems very cold (as in generally).

What I also don't get is he would say sweet things to me and act cool at the same time. His words & behaviour don't match and that's what confuses me. He would say he missed me but would give me the "I wanna come near you yet I don't wanna come too near you" vibe. So I distanced myself and he would come and say sweet things to me with all the loving gestures.

What's up with that? Is this Libra Moon playing with me?

What aspects in synastry activates his feelings?

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posted March 04, 2019 11:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Melinn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted March 04, 2019 11:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Melinn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hikaru

If he has pluto-moon, it seems impossible he is not feeling deeply though?! Have you had power games or other mind games like issues before? It may activate lots of intense feeling in pluto-moon.

Also as a plutonic myself, I can say, space is much needed in order to process feelings. Like lots of space! For ex2-4 weeks or so depending...Maybe you should walk away, but tell him you are giving him and yourself some space?

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posted March 04, 2019 11:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hikaru29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Deltahydrus:
I am a Libra Moon female with a heavy water chart. I can relate to how this guy is acting. I agree with what was said that you are probably not activating the passionate side of him. I have been called "cold" before by some and then others would argue the exact opposite. It is an extreme balancing act that can truly cripple my world if those scales tip. I try as hard as I can to make sure they stay even. I'd also agree that he probably isn't invested with you to feel comfortable enough to show more emotion.

Read my reply to Lala above...he does show his emotions a lot but he's inconsistent. He flip-flops. What aspects activate his passion, for e.g.? When we first met he was VERY passionate. I had to run. After we started seeing each other, he pulled back a little and kept a nice balance. Then in recent months he got very emotional, hot/cold, and started to confuse the hell outta me. When I go near, he pulls away...when I pull away he got visibly upset with me.

I know he's going through a rough patch now (he hasn't been feeling well..some pain issue) and he keeps saying he's afraid he's got cancer. He even told me to move on and forget him as he may die. I said ok because I got so frustrated with him repeating that and then he accused me of not caring about him anymore. Emotional, no?

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posted March 04, 2019 11:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bananaz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've been with a Libra moon for 11 yrs now, and I'll be honest. The lack of emotions thing ain't easy, especially for this quadruple Pisces girl. I can literally count the times he's cried on one hand. Since I cry almost daily, I more than make up for it. Our relationship works because for other reasons, but if it's a dealbreaker for you, get out now. I will say this. Your libra moon guy does have emotions. He just doesnt process them/express them the same way you do.

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posted March 04, 2019 12:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by bananaz:
I've been with a Libra moon for 11 yrs now, and I'll be honest. The lack of emotions thing ain't easy, especially for this quadruple Pisces girl. I can literally count the times he's cried on one hand. Since I cry almost daily, I more than make up for it. Our relationship works because for other reasons, but if it's a dealbreaker for you, get out now. I will say this. Your libra moon guy does have emotions. He just doesnt process them/express them the same way you do.


Are your Draconic Moons compatible? I think its amazing that a triple Pisces can be with a "keep emotions in check" person for so long.

Maybe your Moon is in the 10th house or aspects Saturn?

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posted March 04, 2019 12:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hikaru29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Melinn:
Hikaru

If he has pluto-moon, it seems impossible he is not feeling deeply though?! Have you had power games or other mind games like issues before? It may activate lots of intense feeling in pluto-moon.

Also as a plutonic myself, I can say, space is much needed in order to process feelings. Like lots of space! For ex2-4 weeks or so depending...Maybe you should walk away, but tell him you are giving him and yourself some space?


His Moon conjuncts Pluto/NN/Psyche/Pallas btw. An astrologer who saw his chart says he's a very intense person but has troubles expressing himself (conjunction to Pallas?). I'm not into mind games. He is. It all started a few months ago when he started getting very emotional with me.

Recently we went through ice age for a month. When we met again his eyes lit up. I knew he was very happy to see me but he kept asking if I slept with other guys during this period. I said no but he didn't believe me, even went to the extent of saying that he slept with another gal. I insisted I didn't and said that I was disappointed he did. He then said he actually didn't and was just trying to find out if I did. What kinda f-up mind game is this? Well, he has successfully put thoughts in my mind and I've been wondering if he really did sleep with someone else.

Anyway, I told him I'm gonna walk away. He didn't take me seriously because this isn't the first time I said this. He can take it whatever he likes because this time my feelings have cooled. I've also deleted his contact and all his messages and photos. Kinda feel that I've activated my Pluto 5H destruction.

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posted March 04, 2019 12:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Melinn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
oh no.. he is not mature at all then
I mean there is mind games and there is mind games, his "games" are too immature and weird, low pluto, I get so disappointed reading about plutonians using their energies like this:/

Does he have saturn/uranus to his inner planets? thats my next question

In anyway, he seems unbalanced to say the least!(lol I have been like that aswell, unbalanced, but space and different mindset helped!)

If he does not see the wrong in the way he "tests" you, then walk away if you can <3

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posted March 04, 2019 12:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hikaru29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Melinn:
Does he have saturn/uranus to his inner planets? thats my next question

In anyway, he seems unbalanced to say the least!(lol I have been like that aswell, unbalanced, but space and different mindset helped!)

If he does not see the wrong in the way he "tests" you, then walk away if you can <3


Yes, I'm walking away this time.
He has Venus conjunct Saturn. Uranus sextile Mercury, trine Mars.
I don't know why he feels the need to test me. Maybe Gemini Venus doesn't make him feel secure?

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posted March 04, 2019 12:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hikaru29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I've been with a Libra moon for 11 yrs now, and I'll be honest. The lack of emotions thing ain't easy, especially for this quadruple Pisces girl.

Pisces can be the most self-sacrificing. I empathise with you.
How does your Libra man behave, btw?

I suddenly got reminded of a friend who's also a Libra Moon. Her ex-bf died in a car crash and we all went to the funeral. At that time they had already broken up for a year. I felt so emotional at the wake while she seemed unaffected and this was someone she used to love like crazy. I don't get it.

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posted March 04, 2019 01:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Melinn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Hikaru29:
Yes, I'm walking away this time.
He has Venus conjunct Saturn. Uranus sextile Mercury, trine Mars.
I don't know why he feels the need to test me. Maybe Gemini Venus doesn't make him feel secure?

no don't look at the sign, saturn is very powerful,
ok that hot cold thing and testing, putting up cold walls when feeling insecure or rejected etc etc is something saturnians does, saturnians and plutonians are very alike in many dimension...

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posted March 04, 2019 06:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bananaz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Hikaru29:
Pisces can be the most self-sacrificing. I empathise with you.
How does your Libra man behave, btw?

I suddenly got reminded of a friend who's also a Libra Moon. Her ex-bf died in a car crash and we all went to the funeral. At that time they had already broken up for a year. I felt so emotional at the wake while she seemed unaffected and this was someone she used to love like crazy. I don't get it.


Like a Sag, usually (his sun sign). I have a lot of Sag in my chart too and my moon is conjunct his ascendant, so there are other things that make it work. I had to decide long ago whether his positives outweigh the negatives. What bothers me the most about Libra placements is their lack of loyalty. Thankfully, he's got Leo in his chart so he's extremely loyal. That to me was worth more than sensitivity. I'd rather have someone NOT betray me ever than do it and feel bad about it, ya know?

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posted March 04, 2019 10:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hikaru29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Like a Sag, usually (his sun sign). I have a lot of Sag in my chart too and my moon is conjunct his ascendant, so there are other things that make it work. I had to decide long ago whether his positives outweigh the negatives. What bothers me the most about Libra placements is their lack of loyalty. Thankfully, he's got Leo in his chart so he's extremely loyal. That to me was worth more than sensitivity. I'd rather have someone NOT betray me ever than do it and feel bad about it, ya know?

Like a Sag? Hey, I've a Sag moon with lotsa Sag in my chart (but my strongest sign is Pisces). Coincidentally he also has Leo in his chart (Venus), and lotsa Libra, Cancer, Virgo.

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posted March 04, 2019 10:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hikaru29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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no don't look at the sign, saturn is very powerful,
ok that hot cold thing and testing, putting up cold walls when feeling insecure or rejected etc etc is something saturnians does, saturnians and plutonians are very alike in many dimension...

I'm usually straightforward. When I'm not comfortable with something, I tell him. When I'm upset, I tell him. So it got to a point he knows all my feelings while I have to keep guessing his.

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posted March 05, 2019 08:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for WhiteBirds     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The same thing happens to me.
Libra, in general, is a sign with which I have many difficulties. Whether it's the sun or the moon.
In the end, I decided to interact in a superficial way with Libra, for my own health.

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posted March 06, 2019 12:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hikaru29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I would really like to know how to tell when a Libra really likes you vs when they're just trying to be nice vs when they dislike you?

And will a Libra do EVERYTHING just to keep peace?

I've a lot of Libra Sun friends in my life and I never had any problems with them... but this is the first time I'm dealing with a Libra Moon.

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My biggest romantic love was an Aries with libra moon conjunct Pluto. In the beginning he was very passionate exciting but the minute I didn't do as he wished, he left me because I couldn't at the time move to be near him fast enough. Like he checked out emotionally stopped planning get togethers, I asked why his response, "what is there left to say". I will never ever forget his behavior. When I moved on and started seeing a new guy he came back begging me not to see him and accusing me not having a sit down to work out issues, I kept it moving.

Btw im an Aries with Gemini moon. Controlling, manipulative, romantic jealous is how I experienced this guy. But he loved beauty and when we'd go out to dinner always felt like it was just the two of us in the room, he even remarked one time,"I feel like I've known you forever" funny because I was thinking the same thing in that exact moment. Don't over think with libra moon.

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Libra is not a good place for the Moon. The Moon likes water and deep feeling. It is at home in Cancer. Libra is an airy intellectual sign.

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posted March 06, 2019 02:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Melinn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Hikaru29:
I would really like to know how to tell when a Libra really likes you vs when they're just trying to be nice vs when they dislike you?

And will a Libra do EVERYTHING just to keep peace?

I've a lot of Libra Sun friends in my life and I never had any problems with them... but this is the first time I'm dealing with a Libra Moon.


Yeah tell me about it! BUT earth and fire in their chart really helps!

The guy I deal with he has Leo sun and aries moon, and he is saturnian etc. Even though he has lots of 7th house energy (stelllium) and libra venus, one can actually sense when he is just polite or when he is genuine...

The fire makes them expressive and your guy has Venus in Leo so he should be expressive?
Or sorry, you did describe he was expressive in the beginning. That is, when things are light and we are high in dopamine.


Yes in the beginning, when they (and we) have "nothing to lose" I guess. After they got involved they feel more exposed and vulnurable and they wanna keep things under control.

I have at many times got frustrated with my guy (crush but anyways) only to in retrospect see that I have been putting up walls when I felt hurt or exposed etc.

Yes like you I do to tell whats wrong etc, but after some time has passed usually.

The thing is, maybe we are on sharing mode and the guy is in a different mode, like they cant keep up with our moods...


You are like, now I wanna have emotional connection. Ok now I want space. Ok now I'm hurt etc. It can be hard to keep up for the other person... just an observation..

Did you and he had natal moon-mars connection? I can recall something like that? If so then we tend to get more selfish when hurt and emotional etc..


My theory is, that he (and your guy aswell) wanna detach emotionally when they feel like they are about to lose someone.

I mean, I do this to. Only that I'm more open and action orientated-

I think Libras are more like "fading out" type of guys...

I'm sorry if the things I brought up does not apply to you and your story!

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posted March 07, 2019 07:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hikaru29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Melinn:
earth and fire in their chart really helps!

He has Virgo Sun, Leo Venus and Cancer Mars, so he does have other elements to balance the airy Moon. He's the 2nd Leo Venus I dated and you can always tell when they like you. They look at you like you're one of the best things that ever happened to them, and he actually said this to me.

Leo Venus wants all your attention. In fact, they want EVERYONE's attention! The problem is while he wants all your attention, he may not give you all of his because he's too busy entertaining his "fans". I've a Gemini Venus so staying focus is not my strength but I know where my heart belongs. He may not be pleased with this but I hate his "fans" too, so I think we give each other a run of the money. :P I don't see this as a mega issue though because we always managed to reassure our loyalty to each other... although, like I said in my earlier post... his recent "test" had left me wondering whether he has been really that loyal.

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Did you and he had natal moon-mars connection?

We both have Moon square Mars in natal (a quincunx in synastry and opposition in Composite), but I'm more fiery in my expression while his expression is more emotional. My chart is fire heavy while his is water heavy, although overall quite balanced.


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My theory is, that he (and your guy aswell) wanna detach emotionally when they feel like they are about to lose someone.

I don't know if this is how he feels and how to best describe his behaviour. I've tried "chasing" him away...I told him to get out of my life, but when I turned around, he's still there... yet nonchalant as always. Frustrating.

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