posted March 10, 2019 01:54 AM            

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Originally posted by ChildofVenus:
I have Sun trine Uranus and Neptune also I have a tight Venus square Uranus aspect it’s at 2 degrees and also Moon in Aquarius. Uranus does aspect my Moon but it’s a Semi-square. Jupiter is the ruler of my 5th house. And it squares my 5th house ruler Neptune Uranus is the ruler of my 7th house.

Venus square Uranus is problematic I get bored easily in relationships. And I flirt a lot I don’t know what causes me to be so flirty sometimes.

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Yeah.. I mean now it is being a problem.
Having both Moon and Venus in that condition is a combo enough by itself in my non personal experience.

Neptune in 5th H is the answer to your flirting addiction.
Jupiter and Neptune in 5th H give that tedency, Jupiter ruling your 5th H has its effect too so it kind of maximizes the Neptune's energy in there.
Neptune is worse when in Sag than what it is in Cap.

You are probably more "in love" with the flirting itself than the person you flirt with.

You have lots of Uranus and having it myself I don't see me being in any stable relationship (including frriendships) something always happens for me to lose that person (including his death if there is no other way to "lose" each other). Honestly at this point I am convinced that no matter what I'm destined to lose anyone suddenly and Uranus conjuncting DSC plays a huge role at that.

posted March 10, 2019 07:15 AM            

How is your outlook on religion and spirituality? Are you religious? I ask because neptune is also connected to the "love of god". For me I could not be for ex with an atheist etc and someone who is not spiritual.
It does not have to be about negative things. I really dislike how neptune is automatically connected to negatiives. Let vedic astrology deal with that right?

And the following is generall because of the other posts in this thread; Our charts is just a map to our innerselves. Its not our DNA code, meaning its not written on stone. Its just guidance to understand and see themes etc so in my opinion, people should not let their chart and what "they" understand of their chart guide them and be like "this aspects makes me this or that".

posted March 10, 2019 12:14 PM            

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Originally posted by Plut0nian2:
Yeah.. I mean now it is being a problem.
Having both Moon and Venus in that condition is a combo enough by itself in my non personal experience.

Neptune in 5th H is the answer to your flirting addiction.
Jupiter and Neptune in 5th H give that tedency, Jupiter ruling your 5th H has its effect too so it kind of maximizes the Neptune's energy in there.
Neptune is worse when in Sag than what it is in Cap.

You are probably more "in love" with the flirting itself than the person you flirt with.

You have lots of Uranus and having it myself I don't see me being in any stable relationship (including frriendships) something always happens for me to lose that person (including his death if there is no other way to "lose" each other). Honestly at this point I am convinced that no matter what I'm destined to lose anyone suddenly and Uranus conjuncting DSC plays a huge role at that.

They say you can channel the energy of outer planets inna positive way but I haven't seen it working even when I did.

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posted March 10, 2019 12:54 PM            

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Originally posted by ChildofVenus:
So there is no way that I can channel the Neptune in the 5th house energy? And use it for something creative? I don’t know if that makes sense. Sometimes I just get tired of flirting lol and people take it the wrong way. They think I’m interested in them just because I flirt.

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So you indeed flirt just for the sake of flirting. Yes Neptune in 5th H gives creative tedencies. Problem with Neptune is that the crativity/imagination and all artistic talents it gives are usually wasted because Neptune doesn't know how to take action and express his talents in an earthy way. I could say that is one of the reasons Neptune suffers.. the talents are repressed and doesn't know how to share with others unless there is strong earth emphasis especially an earthy Mars (Capricorn and Virgo being tbe best imo).

I mean it's natural to think you're interested in them, they're not taking it the wrong way, you're probably the one being wrong in here and I believe you know it.

I kind of understand you being kind of addicted in that flirting phase since I have Pluto in 5th H, (obsession) and Uranus, Neptune and North Node in 7th H (avoiding the the next relationship phase).

The difference is I flirt with the ones I'm very interested to and that is rare.
I take flirt and 5th H matters seriously.

posted March 10, 2019 01:15 PM            

I don't care about someone's religion if he has a good explanation for why he/she believes in it. I mean I want him to know why he does no matter if I don't relate. Otherwise I can't take him seriously if for example he believes in God just because he was raised in a family who believed in God, or because it's common and many people do, or just because he is afraid of the pissibillity that God exists which in my humble opinion it's the reason majority of people believe in God.

On the other hand this doesn't apply only to religious matters, it's something I generally need. I mean someone who knows why he has a specific opinion/belief etc, again it doesn't matter if I agree or not.

As for the chart being just a map I completely disagree. You don't take one placement and on meaning of it just by itself nor just one interpretation of it. There are usually more than one interpretations bevause it depends how a planet will act based on the rest of the chart.

I blindly believe in astrology's power at this point because it was practically proven to me that if someone knowsnhow to read charts he can predict anything accurately. However it's too difficult to find people who have such an abillity. I alrrady feel lucky for having met 3 of them with just one helping me for a few years.
I haven't found anyone else since then.

It is disappointing to me how wrong and silly people make astrology seem (I don't mean people that don't know about it or are new to it, I mean general predictions based on the Sun sign that could apply to half of the populatiom and are giving the impression that astrology categorises people in 12 signs).

posted March 10, 2019 01:42 PM            

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Originally posted by Plut0nian2:
So you indeed flirt just for the sake of flirting. Yes Neptune in 5th H gives creative tedencies. Problem with Neptune is that the crativity/imagination and all artistic talents it gives are usually wasted because Neptune doesn't know how to take action and express his talents in an earthy way. I could say that is one of the reasons Neptune suffers.. the talents are repressed and doesn't know how to share with others unless there is strong earth emphasis especially an earthy Mars (Capricorn and Virgo being tbe best imo).

I mean it's natural to think you're interested in them, they're not taking it the wrong way, you're probably the one being wrong in here and I believe you know it.

I kind of understand you being kind of addicted in that flirting phase since I have Pluto in 5th H, (obsession) and Uranus, Neptune and North Node in 7th H (avoiding the the next relationship phase).

The difference is I flirt with the ones I'm very interested to and that is rare.
I take flirt and 5th H matters seriously.

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posted March 10, 2019 01:55 PM            

There are situations
where it's okay
and some that are not...

posted March 10, 2019 02:05 PM            

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Originally posted by ChildofVenus:
Yes I have issues in regards to expressing the creativity I am suppose to have with this placement. But it squares my Neptune which could also be why. Well to me flirting doesn't necessarily mean you are interested in someone. I mean people flirt all the time you might see a random stranger somewhere and flirt. Does that mean you are interested? No how can you be when the person is a stranger? Lol I'll admit that sometimes yes I am wrong but I personally don't take my flirting seriously. Sometimes people think a compliment is flirting and there is a difference. At times I'll flirt with someone if I see they are self conscious or insecure with themselves. Am I wrong to do this? I don't think so.

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Issues with your creativity are due to Neptune itself. Tell me about it. It's Neptune's passivity and confusion. Jupiter makes it more intense.
Unless there is some earth helping to materialize it Neptune's talents are wasted when in harsh aspects/placements.

Hmmm maybe you have a wrong understanding of the meaning of flirting?
The same compliment can be serious and not flirty at all or super flirty/provocative. It depends on the way you say it.

When you flirt with someone it's natural for him to believe that you're interested to kniw him, otherwise why flirt with him/her?

posted March 10, 2019 02:57 PM            

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Originally posted by ballerina:
Why do you flirt?

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posted March 10, 2019 03:20 PM            

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Originally posted by Plut0nian2:
Issues with your creativity are due to Neptune itself. Tell me about it. It's Neptune's passivity and confusion. Jupiter makes it more intense.
Unless there is some earth helping to materialize it Neptune's talents are wasted when in harsh aspects/placements.

Hmmm maybe you have a wrong understanding of the meaning of flirting?
The same compliment can be serious and not flirty at all or super flirty/provocative. It depends on the way you say it.

When you flirt with someone it's natural for him to believe that you're interested to kniw him, otherwise why flirt with him/her?

It's ok if you do it for fun because you like it but I mean don't expect others to know it?

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posted March 10, 2019 05:14 PM            

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Originally posted by ChildofVenus:
Stephen King has Mercury conjunct Neptune and he was able to express his creativity but he is a Virgo Sun though.

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You always need to see the whole chart, just one or two aspects/placements can't tell the whole story.
Earth in the chart doesn't mean just personal planets in Taurus/Virgo/Cap it means also Saturn aspects or planets in 10th H.
You have to see how "strong" an energy is to decide if other aspects are enough to channel it.

For example you were just talking about your Aqua DSC but this alone isn't enough by itself.
If Aries/Gemini/Sag/Cap/Aqua/Pisces somehow connected with the DSC was enough to show problematic relationships or no relationships then more than half of the population wouldn't be in long lasting relationships.

That's why you have to know about the whole chart.

posted March 10, 2019 07:17 PM            

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Originally posted by Hikaru29:
^ Yes, I've a religious belief and it's important to me so my partner preferably shares the same faith as me or at least not clashing views. I can't be with someone who bashes my faith or try to stuff his religious views down my throat.

Yes, I also think astrology is a guide. Some of the stuff I read about myself are not entirely true. E.g. unlike the interp on Moon in 7th, I don't jump from one relationship to another and I don't enter one just because I feel lonely. And again unlike what Neptune in 7th indicates, I don't attract people with substance abuse. I'm also wary of people who shows emotional instability. My Uranus in 5th again says i move from one relationship to the next but again that's not true. I date around but those are not relationships, imo.

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Yes agreed! astrology is just a ”map” its not like ones soul and innermost being will be on that astro map.

We are alike then! Also yes I don’t attract substance users either, actually, religious people does not abuse substances where I am from so, thats astrology for you. It can’t see the whole picture, it can only see ”themes” and possible energies etc

posted March 10, 2019 07:39 PM            

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Originally posted by Plut0nian2:
As for the religion thing
I'm an atheist when it comes to God because of the way it's presented. I believe in universe mas an immense energy..

I don't care about someone's religion if he has a good explanation for why he/she believes in it. I mean I want him to know why he does no matter if I don't relate. Otherwise I can't take him seriously if for example he believes in God just because he was raised in a family who believed in God, or because it's common and many people do, or just because he is afraid of the pissibillity that God exists which in my humble opinion it's the reason majority of people believe in God.

On the other hand this doesn't apply only to religious matters, it's something I generally need. I mean someone who knows why he has a specific opinion/belief etc, again it doesn't matter if I agree or not.

As for the chart being just a map I completely disagree. You don't take one placement and on meaning of it just by itself nor just one interpretation of it. There are usually more than one interpretations bevause it depends how a planet will act based on the rest of the chart.

I blindly believe in astrology's power at this point because it was practically proven to me that if someone knowsnhow to read charts he can predict [b]anything accurately. However it's too difficult to find people who have such an abillity. I alrrady feel lucky for having met 3 of them with just one helping me for a few years.
I haven't found anyone else since then.

It is disappointing to me how wrong and silly people make astrology seem (I don't mean people that don't know about it or are new to it, I mean general predictions based on the Sun sign that could apply to half of the populatiom and are giving the impression that astrology categorises people in 12 signs).

But I think that if someone really wants to know he/she will get to that point eventually.[/B]

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It is interesting though that you see yourself as an atheist, but you blindly believe in ”astrologys power” or in astrology. Or the person who impressed in you with his reading skills . I don’t know what he has predicted but is ut really that hard to see certain themes if someone has the skill, the intuition and also somewhat of an psychologist/therapist mind/skills?

Your experiences has shaped your beliefs about that of course, so let me share some contradictory experiences about astrology that shows its just a mare ”google maps” with themes and analogies we use to make sense of planetary energies.

For ex, someone with sun in 9th and all kinds of aspects that supports having a strong ”religious outlook” on things. Astrology can only tell us the person has strong beliefs about something. It can not say if the person lives god or on the contrary is a Dawkins type of atheist. Because its the same aspects and house placement for both types. Or someone who has Mars-jupiter aspect. You can’t tell if its a person fighting for religion or fighting against it. (yeah I know just one aspect but just making a point).

Also this curious things I have exoerienced, I have identical twin brothers. They have the same charts, dna, same parents and environment, but they are not alike!
Yes they share similarities , ”themes” but ever since they were babies they were different.

Or my two twin friends I had in high school. One is very religious, the other one not so much. One married early worked day time job and got babies, the other did not take the same path and was a student and then ended up being a teacher etc

So how could we via astrology maps predict the outcomes for thise people, the twins especially..

Just my experiences! I’m happy you have found someone that good at reading charts!

edit: I may have misunderstood what you were explaining. I just ment to say that if the astrologer you talked about would do readings for my twin brothers or those twin girls, he would not be able to explain their inner selves or events by transitions etc.

posted March 10, 2019 08:59 PM            

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Originally posted by Melinn:

It is interesting though that you see yourself as an atheist, but you blindly believe in ”astrologys power” or in astrology. Or the person who impressed in you with his reading skills . I don’t know what he has predicted but is ut really that hard to see certain themes if someone has the skill, the intuition and also somewhat of an psychologist/therapist mind/skills?

Your experiences has shaped your beliefs about that of course, so let me share some contradictory experiences about astrology that shows its just a mare ”google maps” with themes and analogies we use to make sense of planetary energies.

For ex, someone with sun in 9th and all kinds of aspects that supports having a strong ”religious outlook” on things. Astrology can only tell us the person has strong beliefs about something. It can not say if the person lives god or on the contrary is a Dawkins type of atheist. Because its the same aspects and house placement for both types. Or someone who has Mars-jupiter aspect. You can’t tell if its a person fighting for religion or fighting against it. (yeah I know just one aspect but just making a point).

Also this curious things I have exoerienced, I have identical twin brothers. They have the same charts, dna, same parents and environment, but they are not alike!
Yes they share similarities , ”themes” but ever since they were babies they were different.

Or my two twin friends I had in high school. One is very religious, the other one not so much. One married early worked day time job and got babies, the other did not take the same path and was a student and then ended up being a teacher etc

So how could we via astrology maps predict the outcomes for thise people, the twins especially..

Just my experiences! I’m happy you have found someone that good at reading charts!

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Forget the "blindly" part (English is not my mother language, even though I understand it very well I can't use it as well, "blindly" in my language can be used with a different meaning too, emphasizing that you believe
in something too much).

As I said I don't believe in God because it's not practically proven that he exists. Astrology is practically proven to me.
That person didn't know me and at that point you couldn't find any info at any forum about me because I was a new member in there. No names, no infos, I just posted my natal chart and birth details. He is from another country. He didn't ask me anything. My question was a vague one "What do you see in the near future happening for me?" (something like that).

The kind of predictions you're talking about are the ones that I dislike and I have the capacity to understand them for myself.

You can use your logic and intuition all you want but you can't predict things like my mom who is completely healthy is going to enter the hospital because of an out of nowhere stomach problem (I don't remember how it's called in English) in late December and stay in the hospital for a week because of high fever. I mean specific things like that.

He also could find the days my father had died, how, why, when and what. He could actually see anything both in the past and the future.
I knew the very basics of astrology so he would exlain to me how he saw everything but it was too much for me because he used transits, progressions, solar arcs, solar returns and lunar returns. All combined.
It is still too much for me at this point let alone then.

Two people whom I told about this and find astrology to be bs wanted to contact him.. They did and they stopped believing that astrology is bs. When something is practically proven multiple times in different ways no one can deny it. It's a bit difficult though to prove. aatrology to each one personally by doing predictions because even for the level of his he needed a good 3-5 hours in order to check all of the charts I mentioned and type huge comments telling me about all the things he saw.

Anyway I do feel lucky because he was the first one and he helped me for years (not just me, he was helping many people at that point) then he disappeared and I pray he is fine, I wish I had screenshots if those threads because I could learn tones of things from his replies.

I feel like I'll never meet someone like him again, even though I had 2-3 others making accurate predictions once or twice in the distant past.

I don't know if I mentioned here the case with the twins being born a few minutes apart that changes some of their planets' placements.

Aspects and house placements override signs.
In the case of twins the time of birth (minutes) is too important. I know other twins myself but I don't know their exact birth times so I can't say for sure. Twins can be born with 5-30 minutes difference if I remember correctly. However the twins I talked about, that knew their birth time had like 3-5 minutes difference, I mean it was minimal and still some planets changed houses. The reason they knew their exact birth time was because their mother or grand mother was into astrology herself.

When my aunt gave birth to my cousin I had her recording (audio) the procedure and her husband checking the exact time based on internet (not his phone) plus me waiting for a phone call immediately in order to have her exact birth time (including secs) lol

posted March 10, 2019 11:02 PM            

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Originally posted by Melinn:

We are alike then! Also yes I don’t attract substance users either, actually, religious people does not abuse substances where I am from so, thats astrology for you. It can’t see the whole picture, it can only see ”themes” and possible energies etc

I’m sure with a person who has matured emotionally and have their stuff together, you will be able to have a relationship that does not ”dissolve” <3

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Yes, that's what I think. Possible energies and themes but not the outcome.

I've heard other predictions by other astrologers using various methods but the predictions never came through for me. Small things yes but not the big things. Someone predicted I would marry young and then divorce but I didn't. Haha.

@Plutonion, this is what I believe... astrologers can tell you certain things but not ALL. I've not met (And I've seen many using various methods) any that was able to do that. They're usually right about some but not all. I've posted charts here where people tell me accurately the themes of their relationships but some interpretations were not accurate and these are people I know well so I know what's happening in their lives.

posted March 10, 2019 11:13 PM            

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Originally posted by Melinn:
Also yes its silly how people missuse it. A friend who doesn’t know anything about astrology that I did a small reading for asked me of people like me ithat is into astrology wont get paranoid and like look at someones chart and be like “no we will not get along at all, bye”. And I was so naive when I thought and answered “no, no serious person would be that silly”. But lately that type of people is what I see most in the forums here

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posted March 11, 2019 07:43 AM            

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Originally posted by Hikaru29:
@Plutonion, this is what I believe... astrologers can tell you certain things but not ALL. I've not met (And I've seen many using various methods) any that was able to do that. They're usually right about some but not all. I've posted charts here where people tell me accurately the themes of their relationships but some interpretations were not accurate and these are people I know well so I know what's happening in their lives.

Perhaps some astrologers like the ones you met were really masters, but there are a lot out there who are not as well. So we should always take readings with a pinch of salt.

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Yes unfortunately, even professional astrologers I've heard of aren't that accurate/correct. I don't blame them it's so damn difficult combining all those charts and decide hoe everything will affect the native.

You're right actually to believe that, I would believe the same if it wasn't for him, he was even doing it for free.