posted April 27, 2019 10:21 AM            

i actually don't see it as a lie, but maybe it's that i've learned to appreciate the hard things i've gone through because they've offered me insight that having things easy wouldn't have given me and i value that

i wouldn't mind a break from it lol, but i tend to find a good deal of people get hysterical and broken up over **** that seems very minor to me and i feel bad for them seeing them fall apart so easily over things that i'd just go "well that sucks" and then move on over

because no matter how good anyone has it there's always going to be life to balance that all out, and falling apart over pretty much anything isn't worthwhile you know? but people who get hit with something hard for the first time way later or are used to more minor things really can't take much of anything typically when it does come their way

i'm comfortable with not being that person lol so when i say that i'm legit just being honest i see life that way

i see hard **** as a chance to learn something, i didn't always but that was because i wasn't learning anything from it

and i appreciate that, i wouldn't want to spend the rest of my life sober but i'd like to get to a place where i'm at least somewhat normal about what i use if that's at all possible

i'm actually one of those people who does judge on appearances because you can, i don't normally say that to people because they don't like to hear it but like you said someone presents themselves in that manner it shows some of what's going on inside

people wear their insides typically whether they realize it or not, and it's not about attractiveness it's other qualities, with heavy pluto i imagine you see that better than most people

she had/has a very weird internal rivalry with my fiancee that she's always taken out on her because she's pretty, my fiancee's sister (who was beautiful but not as pretty) she was nicer to in some ways but she'd straight up say "you're not the pretty one" to her (which again was ridiculous she was pretty) but she took that to a different place

but yeah definitely validation and like i said she had that weird thing where she felt like i was very similar to her first husband (behavior wise) which she had an issue with too

i can't picture her being a taurus moon though i'm positive aries fits in some of the worst ways possible honestly, this is a woman who because she's old now likes to go outside and bump into people just to fight with them, throws temper tantrums, has done all manner of insane **** pretty much

i think his moon might actually really be in virgo he's a hypochondriac obsessed with health and cleanliness, the second anyone is feeling sick around him he's giving them a lecture about everything it could be and the worst case scenarios etc and so on he definitely has virgo in his chart lol and exhibits it strongly

posted April 28, 2019 03:34 PM            

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@Plut0nian2

i actually don't see it as a lie, but maybe it's that i've learned to appreciate the hard things i've gone through because they've offered me insight that having things easy wouldn't have given me and i value that

i wouldn't mind a break from it lol, but i tend to find a good deal of people get hysterical and broken up over **** that seems very minor to me and i feel bad for them seeing them fall apart so easily over things that i'd just go "well that sucks" and then move on over

because no matter how good anyone has it there's always going to be life to balance that all out, and falling apart over pretty much anything isn't worthwhile you know? but people who get hit with something hard for the first time way later or are used to more minor things really can't take much of anything typically when it does come their way

i'm comfortable with not being that person lol so when i say that i'm legit just being honest i see life that way

i see hard **** as a chance to learn something, i didn't always but that was because i wasn't learning anything from it

and i appreciate that, i wouldn't want to spend the rest of my life sober but i'd like to get to a place where i'm at least somewhat normal about what i use if that's at all possible

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I guess it depends on each person, what may seem as serious to you may seem as something unimportant to someone else and vice versa. To me it's death and health issues for example.
It's good that you see it that way.
I can't tbh. I've tried but I can't maybe I don't get the lessons. I definately don't appreciate it I see it as a waste of time.. and I wish everything started after my 30s. I wouldn't care as much. But wasying youth which is the best time of life imo and having those heavy feelings for the rest of your life is sh*tty imo. So I would prefer to have it easy.

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i'm actually one of those people who does judge on appearances because you can, i don't normally say that to people because they don't like to hear it but like you said someone presents themselves in that manner it shows some of what's going on inside

people wear their insides typically whether they realize it or not, and it's not about attractiveness it's other qualities, with heavy pluto i imagine you see that better than most people

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Yeah, I see like you too.

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she had/has a very weird internal rivalry with my fiancee that she's always taken out on her because she's pretty, my fiancee's sister (who was beautiful but not as pretty) she was nicer to in some ways but she'd straight up say "you're not the pretty one" to her (which again was ridiculous she was pretty) but she took that to a different place

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I don't understand why people believe that being pretty is something they deserve.. Like they earned it. I find that so superficial and cheap. Also pretty and attractive are two completely different things. There are ugly people who are attractive to many and pretty people who are unattractive.. like a beautifully decorated food which is completely tasteless.

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but yeah definitely validation and like i said she had that weird thing where she felt like i was very similar to her first husband (behavior wise) which she had an issue with too

i can't picture her being a taurus moon though i'm positive aries fits in some of the worst ways possible honestly, this is a woman who because she's old now likes to go outside and bump into people just to fight with them, throws temper tantrums, has done all manner of insane **** pretty much

i think his moon might actually really be in virgo he's a hypochondriac obsessed with health and cleanliness, the second anyone is feeling sick around him he's giving them a lecture about everything it could be and the worst case scenarios etc and so on he definitely has virgo in his chart lol and exhibits it strongly

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Just stay away from your fiance's mother as much as possible she might rape you or smth. Is she still doing weird things?
Based on your description I believe she has an Aries Moon too.

Maybe thay guy has indeed Moon in Virgo but it vould be that he has planets in 6th H? Leo Moon is supposed to be warm and Virgo Moon cold. Eyes are a good indicator of someone's Moon unless his Moon forms more than one or two hard aspects in the native's natal chart. Leo eyes have some warmth Virgo yes are cold kimd of empty but in an indifferent kind of way. Scorpio Moon eyes may seem dead/empty on the surface but you can see the depth hiding behind that surface for example.

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i should try to find out what one of my old dealers' birthdays is, she had giant fake **** and was always about make up and all that **** she had a been a dominatrix at one point and a cam girl

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posted April 28, 2019 06:47 PM            

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Yes! you should! If you do let me know.
I couldn't find that other girl though. I don't know if she is "easy" when it comes to sex but she is too fake but at least her lips don't take half of her face's space. lol I feel like she told me in the past that she is an Aries but I may be wrong.

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that's true which is why i'll be understanding but usually in the back of my head i'm thinking "jesus christ they're emotional over something that doesn't need to be this serious"

i'm no stranger to health issues i've spent about 6 years dealing with some pretty severe ones and in that time i've had points where i've basically been bedbound and all kinds of fun **** , but i don't see that as a waste of life i just learned and experienced things i wouldn't have otherwise is all

i could dwell on the fact that it's highly likely i won't even make it to 50 (or even 40) statistically speaking, but i don't really see a point and it doesn't bother me day to day even though constant pain and **** like that has become normal for me

i don't consider it time wasted just because what you were doing wasn't ideal or wasn't what you thought you would/should be doing you know? i think that seems pretty harsh and unfair towards life lol and there's no real best time of life i mean maybe i say that because my childhood was **** and i spent a good chunk of my early 20's raising teenagers and then my late 20's being sick now i'm 32 and it's just like "some of that sucked oh well"

i think people put a lot of emphasis on youth but some people find out much later in life that things are better for them then and they focused too much on that sort of thing

i think maybe in my fiancee's mom's case it's the venus in taurus - uranus aspect that gave her such a warped view not only of beauty in regards to her physical self but of its value (in spite of my fiancee being pretty her mother would also regularly insult her for having curly hair and a skin tone more like her father's etc) i think for her there was just this really warped ideal

she was a hairdresser for a long time which added to it, a lot of them are the same type of women with the same type of issues personality wise and in their lives (ironically the dealer i mentioned, i have to ask my fiancee if she knows her birthdate dropped out of cosmetology school)

i haven't seen her since my fiancee's sister's funeral last year and before that it had been a few years and only on christmas (once my fiancee's siblings were adults the obligation to deal with her was mostly gone) because going no contact was the only option after one particularly bad christmas (more bad for my fiancee than me, but every christmas was a crazy event)

he's not a very warm guy at all, so i don't think so

my younger brother is a leo moon and i don't get the vibe off this guy at all whereas my older brother is a leo mars and i can see how this guy might have that going on

i'm fairly sure my old dealer has aries or scorpio in her chart from what i remember, or both just based on being around her but i'll try to find out

posted April 29, 2019 09:42 AM            

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that's true which is why i'll be understanding but usually in the back of my head i'm thinking "jesus christ they're emotional over something that doesn't need to be this serious"

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I do that in extreme situations. The " fake" girl whose chart I posted eould cry for two weeks saying that she wanted to die because her hair got shorter than what she wanted it.
I told her that she made me so angry that I wanted to slap her.
Also I'm very strict when something was someone's choice.. I'm like "just suck it up you knew it would lead to this so there is no excuse, feel however you feel but complaining is not acceptable.

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i'm no stranger to health issues i've spent about 6 years dealing with some pretty severe ones and in that time i've had points where i've basically been bedbound and all kinds of fun **** , but i don't see that as a waste of life i just learned and experienced things i wouldn't have otherwise is all

i could dwell on the fact that it's highly likely i won't even make it to 50 (or even 40) statistically speaking, but i don't really see a point and it doesn't bother me day to day even though constant pain and **** like that has become normal for me

i don't consider it time wasted just because what you were doing wasn't ideal or wasn't what you thought you would/should be doing you know? i think that seems pretty harsh and unfair towards life lol and there's no real best time of life i mean maybe i say that because my childhood was **** and i spent a good chunk of my early 20's raising teenagers and then my late 20's being sick now i'm 32 and it's just like "some of that sucked oh well"

i think people put a lot of emphasis on youth but some people find out much later in life that things are better for them then and they focused too much on that sort of thing

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Come on don't say that, I've known/heard of people who were abusing drugs and alcohol and lived until they became super old. Imagine us being in our 60s still here on LL, me asking you if you're still sober lol. We might be able to make super accurate predictions by then.

I wasn't talking about my death though. If I knew my deathday I would celebrate it like I never have celebrated my birthdy. I want to die but I have more than one reasons to not die. Three people that I know it would cost them too much since they feel that they only have me. I'm trying hard to prevent them from making sh*tty choices that they are inclined to do.
Also I'm thinking that I will die anyway at some point but I can't choose to ressurect so why not keep on living until that time comes naturally? I also feel that suicide is for the weak ones and a part of me says "no b*tch I'm not going to surrender no matter what". Also I wanna see if I'll learn/understand anything I haven't already.

That being said my ideal thing since a kid was to be healthy with a decent job living alone and spoiling my dad a lot. And then die at the age of 28-29 a quick death. 18-28 is the best age imo because it's where the real freedom is. You're young, you're free, you're healthy and strong, you have plenty of time and choices. At least that's the way it's supposed to be. Also wrinkles are depressive. I would cry as a kid when I saw people with wrinkles even if they were young. I was telling my parents to kill me before I became like that lol. I don't know why they make me so sad. They give me the illusion of a tired and weak human being whose happiness is gone or smth.

I don't care much at this point because I'm almost 28yo already.

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i think maybe in my fiancee's mom's case it's the venus in taurus - uranus aspect that gave her such a warped view not only of beauty in regards to her physical self but of its value (in spite of my fiancee being pretty her mother would also regularly insult her for having curly hair and a skin tone more like her father's etc) i think for her there was just this really warped ideal

she was a hairdresser for a long time which added to it, a lot of them are the same type of women with the same type of issues personality wise and in their lives (ironically the dealer i mentioned, i have to ask my fiancee if she knows her birthdate dropped out of cosmetology school)

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Lol both of the girls I mentioned have gone to makeup schools too. You know what thinking about it my mom Aries Sun, Moon, Mars and Pisces Mercury she is not fake at all but she has this thing that she would never go out without having her hair and makeup done. She also has finished a makeup school. But here it's an easy and quick school so many do it.

*How does your brother's Mars in Leo play out? What aspects does it make?

posted April 29, 2019 01:43 PM            

Lol both of the girls I mentioned have gone to makeup schools too. You know what thinking about it my mom Aries Sun, Moon, Mars and Pisces Mercury she is not fake at all but she has this thing that she would never go out without having her hair and makeup done. She also has finished a makeup school. But here it's an easy and quick school so many do it.

*How does your brother's Mars in Leo play out? What aspects does it make?

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bad haircuts are the end of the world though, nothing worse lol for me it's more when someone is constantly going crazy over things they can't change that are just life instead of focusing on what they can work with that i find frustrating

because i get it to a point, sometimes **** that's out of your control is awful and miserable and sometimes it will get to you and that's fine, but when it's constant or unrealistic or the end of the world because life is different than it should've been in their imagination i have less patience

i'm actually not saying what i'm saying about my health because of the drug issues (the health issues are separate and unrelated though i'm sure my substance abuse history hasn't exactly helped) i'm saying it because in spite of not being visibly ill i basically won the lottery of health issues and have a rare progressive illness that on average takes about 10 years for someone to have fatal complications from (some people get less time, some people get more but it doesn't go well)

there's no actual treatment, no cure when i was regularly bothering with doctors (i stopped because i hated dealing with it) i was stuck going every 3 weeks so they could keep monitoring me and doing pretty much nothing else other than poking at me and telling me that i've been lucky as far as it goes

i could probably stand to go at this point because the seizures have been worse in the past couple years than they used to be (though it's been a little while since i've had one) and im relatively sure something might be up with my heart at this point and well other **** but the reality is i find it all pointless and annoying to deal with and i'd rather not be bothered

in some ways i'm doing a lot better at least than i was in the past so there's that, and on the bright side it doesn't show physically so i look fine even though i'm not (though that comes with its own issues, at least getting hit on by hospital staff and **** never fails to be slightly awkward and entertaining)

i'd be a miracle (we can hope it's shaman sickness or some **** lol) and a dream lab experiment if i made it to an age where you and i still talk in our 60's, and i honestly don't really think about that sort of thing

i'll pretend sometimes when my fiancee talks about getting old like it's a likely reality for me, but yeah... when we're in our 60's, you're what 5 years younger than me? so it won't take you too long to catch up

i used to feel the way you do about life, i was only alive because i knew a couple of people couldn't handle that, but i tried once and it didn't work out (i didn't tell anyone i did that until 2 years after) it was before my health went to **** funny enough (my health was bad pre-heroin btw, heroin got so bad because it was a nice crutch i'd use it and it was the only time i'd feel close to human after years of being sick)

being sick and having all kinds of limitations at points like not being able to even walk for more than 5 or 10 minutes at a time (this is much better now, i also had a point where i'd need a cane sometimes and i haven't needed one in a while) and constant physical pain made me appreciate life in this really odd way because it made every moment count

it forced me to meditate and really redefine what had value and what life was because you can't go for days on end like that without really questioning it, and in some ways i'm grateful for that i think i would've been a much sadder person if chance hadn't ****** me so hard lol

like you though i would keep my **** together sometimes just by thinking "well i'll die anyway and suicide is permanent" as this sort of comfort thing or my other favotire "i can always kill myself tomorrow" i found that especially comforting

i never entirely had freedom at those ages and i was unhealthier at 28 than i am now (at least feeling, i guess i haven't checked out my heart lol) so your younger self fantasy is pretty lost on me

i'm happier now than i was then, not necessarily because my life is a million times better, though it is in some ways not in others, but because i changed the way i view things

i found her chart btw (forgot to ask my fiancee, but her name is memorable and she has modeling pages) and what's interesting is what she has in common is actually the gemini sun (though she must have a fire ascendant given her behavior, i would be shocked if it was anything else) well that and make up school lol

that kind of work generally draws in a very specific type of woman

my brother's mars is actually surprising to me as far as aspects go i would've guessed it would be afflicted somehow given his tendency towards outbursts and temper tantrums (though they're usually a matter of hurt pride and his need to constantly be "in charge" and "better" etc) this is his chart (if you remember mine you can see how ****** the synastry there is way too much pluto his hits my ascendant squares my mars opposite my moon etc)

he's interesting in regards to the topic in the sense that he actually heavily verbally judges women who aren't into wearing tons of make up and **** like that, and will say that's what he wants

but when it comes to who he actually dates he generally goes for very unattractive women (actually i suppose he has that in common with the other leo mars guy i posted come to think of it) who are actually really sloppy and **** like that

it's a weird contrast because he'll judge prettier, better put together women more harshly and set the bar higher for them and then he dates women he'd make fun of so i imagine he must treat them horribly or some ****

just unrealistic when he talks as if a real woman is the equivalent of some of the porn art he makes where there's these caricatures of women and then he'll date women i'm admittedly way too shallow for (and to be fair most people are) who he'd openly talk **** about and make fun of someone else for dating

it's weird and warped and i'm not sure if it's this need to feel superior or like they're going to be grateful for him or some ****

posted April 30, 2019 10:51 PM            

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bad haircuts are the end of the world though, nothing worse lol for me it's more when someone is constantly going crazy over things they can't change that are just life instead of focusing on what they can work with that i find frustrating

because i get it to a point, sometimes **** that's out of your control is awful and miserable and sometimes it will get to you and that's fine, but when it's constant or unrealistic or the end of the world because life is different than it should've been in their imagination i have less patience

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Well the best is to not worry about anything but that's impossible I guess. We see this differently. I see no point in worrying about smth that can be changed or that it was your choice.
Things that aren't a result of your choice, or things that can't be changed feel unfair and they can have huge and longlasting impact.
Maybe it has to do with my Saturn in 8th H, my trio in Leo in 2nd H and the square from Pluto, they are all in fixed signs.

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i'm actually not saying what i'm saying about my health because of the drug issues (the health issues are separate and unrelated though i'm sure my substance abuse history hasn't exactly helped) i'm saying it because in spite of not being visibly ill i basically won the lottery of health issues and have a rare progressive illness that on average takes about 10 years for someone to have fatal complications from (some people get less time, some people get more but it doesn't go well)

there's no actual treatment, no cure when i was regularly bothering with doctors (i stopped because i hated dealing with it) i was stuck going every 3 weeks so they could keep monitoring me and doing pretty much nothing else other than poking at me and telling me that i've been lucky as far as it goes

i could probably stand to go at this point because the seizures have been worse in the past couple years than they used to be (though it's been a little while since i've had one) and im relatively sure something might be up with my heart at this point and well other **** but the reality is i find it all pointless and annoying to deal with and i'd rather not be bothered

in some ways i'm doing a lot better at least than i was in the past so there's that, and on the bright side it doesn't show physically so i look fine even though i'm not (though that comes with its own issues, at least getting hit on by hospital staff and **** never fails to be slightly awkward and entertaining)

i'd be a miracle (we can hope it's shaman sickness or some **** lol) and a dream lab experiment if i made it to an age where you and i still talk in our 60's, and i honestly don't really think about that sort of thing

i'll pretend sometimes when my fiancee talks about getting old like it's a likely reality for me, but yeah... when we're in our 60's, you're what 5 years younger than me? so it won't take you too long to catch up

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I'm very familiar with this stuff.. Hospitals, tests, doctors, difficult to diagnose health issues, looking good on the outside while feeling so bad inside.
Everything you mentioned. I'm so tired of it emotionally and mentally.

I remember that you have those kinds of health issues but I don't think youve tild me what it is.
Don't take it for granted though that you'll have that few years of life left. I've known/heard of many people who had an illness or serious health issues since a relatively young age who were supposed to die early and they ended up burying everyone else first instead lol.
I'm afraid I'll be like them.

Let alone other crazy stuff. I personally know a woman who had cancer in her bones and blood (I didn't even know it was possible to have bone cancer). She found out because her hand broke when she took a vase with flowers or smth like that. Doctors said she was already dead, they didn't want to try at all. Her brother is rich so he paid for her to have the standard therapy just in case. It's been around 15 years that she was cured and she is healthy since then living a normal life.

Just let me dream, it's a form of stabillity in my unstable life. Be it a stranger like you with whom I see in a forum, we talk once in a while, I learn a few things about you and the crazy people in your life. Or my smartphone which I have for almost 6 years and I refuse to buy a new one since it's still properly fuctioning and I'm attached to it. It's my most long lasting relationship after my dad after all.

Who knows what happens though. I may be dead first (hopefully lol), LL may not exist at all in a few years. Or maybe I'll be a millionaire 😂😂😂 and I'll pay others to find you a cure. Btw I thought that wanting to help others is just a Piscean syndrome but I read a few days ago that Jupiter in 2nd H makes the native feel the same.

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i used to feel the way you do about life, i was only alive because i knew a couple of people couldn't handle that, but i tried once and it didn't work out (i didn't tell anyone i did that until 2 years after) it was before my health went to **** funny enough (my health was bad pre-heroin btw, heroin got so bad because it was a nice crutch i'd use it and it was the only time i'd feel close to human after years of being sick)

being sick and having all kinds of limitations at points like not being able to even walk for more than 5 or 10 minutes at a time (this is much better now, i also had a point where i'd need a cane sometimes and i haven't needed one in a while) and constant physical pain made me appreciate life in this really odd way because it made every moment count

it forced me to meditate and really redefine what had value and what life was because you can't go for days on end like that without really questioning it, and in some ways i'm grateful for that i think i would've been a much sadder person if chance hadn't ****** me so hard lol

like you though i would keep my **** together sometimes just by thinking "well i'll die anyway and suicide is permanent" as this sort of comfort thing or my other favotire "i can always kill myself tomorrow" i found that especially comforting

i never entirely had freedom at those ages and i was unhealthier at 28 than i am now (at least feeling, i guess i haven't checked out my heart lol) so your younger self fantasy is pretty lost on me

i'm happier now than i was then, not necessarily because my life is a million times better, though it is in some ways not in others, but because i changed the way i view things

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While reading this I recalled smth I read about NN in 7th H saying that the native with this placement often has a difficult life (generally not just in relationships) which gets better with age. Do you have NN in 7th H? I kind of remember like you have one of my difficult placements in your 7th H but it may be Uranus.

Many people tell me that they've been happier/in a better place after their 30s/40s.
And I already feel like a granny at this point 😂. I have as proof for that the white strands I got since I was 21yo.

I'm glad you changed your views to more positive ones, I don't feel like I ever will. Even from an astrological pov I had T. Pluto and T.Saturn on my NN in 7th H and I didn't get any lessons. Just a wrinkle lol which makes me trying to stop sleeping on my stomach but I can't sleep if I'm not on my stomach.

I've had all these symptoms and a lot more (but different health problems), it feels like I said these myself. You have Moon, Venus, Mars and maybe ASC too (not sure) in cardinal signs that have been %@%@%#& over and over these last few years by T. Pluto, Uranus and maybe even Saturn when it was in Libra.

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i found her chart btw (forgot to ask my fiancee, but her name is memorable and she has modeling pages) and what's interesting is what she has in common is actually the gemini sun (though she must have a fire ascendant given her behavior, i would be shocked if it was anything else) well that and make up school lol

that kind of work generally draws in a very specific type of woman

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I don't think I would have guessed that she was a dealer from her chart. I guess there is no way to learn her tob right?

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my brother's mars is actually surprising to me as far as aspects go i would've guessed it would be afflicted somehow given his tendency towards outbursts and temper tantrums (though they're usually a matter of hurt pride and his need to constantly be "in charge" and "better" etc) this is his chart (if you remember mine you can see how ****** the synastry there is way too much pluto his hits my ascendant squares my mars opposite my moon etc)

he's interesting in regards to the topic in the sense that he actually heavily verbally judges women who aren't into wearing tons of make up and **** like that, and will say that's what he wants

but when it comes to who he actually dates he generally goes for very unattractive women (actually i suppose he has that in common with the other leo mars guy i posted come to think of it) who are actually really sloppy and **** like that

it's a weird contrast because he'll judge prettier, better put together women more harshly and set the bar higher for them and then he dates women he'd make fun of so i imagine he must treat them horribly or some ****

just unrealistic when he talks as if a real woman is the equivalent of some of the porn art he makes where there's these caricatures of women and then he'll date women i'm admittedly way too shallow for (and to be fair most people are) who he'd openly talk **** about and make fun of someone else for dating

it's weird and warped and i'm not sure if it's this need to feel superior or like they're going to be grateful for him or some ****

when it's been just sex he's gone the more superficial route and there's been plastic chicks there though

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How do you feel your brother's Pluto on your planets affects you? Is he the weak one who can not deal with difficult situations and lets others do it fot him?

Your brother's 7th H is FULL
He has Saturn and NN in there but Jupiter and Venus too. I'm curious to know about his relationships. Does he have longlasting ones? Is he lucky like meeting good girls or girls who help him in one way or another?

I believe what you're describing is his angular Neptune quite close to his 10th H cusp, which represents his ideals and high standards, in tight square with his Saturn (reality) in 7th H (relationship needs). What he sees as ideal is completely different from what he needs or what he ends up being attracted to when it comes to relationships.
He might be cold and superficial having high expectations (Neptune and Libra) until he gets in love/to know/attached/serious with someone (Saturn)

How does his Neptune in 10th H affects him? Doe she wonder aimlessly especially when it comes to jobs? Neptune and Uranus suck in anular houses (even more when they are close to the house cusp).

posted May 10, 2019 09:49 AM            

i just noticed this response, sorry about that i took a really short trip back to ny with my fiancee to see our younger brothers and do some **** and when i got back this thread was pushed down so i didn't get a chance to look til just now

i don't see a point in worrying necessarily, but i can still feel some level of sympathy but i feel like when things can't be changed it's more important to get over them and learn to live with them etc if that makes sense

because if you can't change it all you have to worry about is what you can do to get around it or work with it etc so constantly focusing on it gets you nowhere since it will never get better or change you're essentially just obsessing over almost nothing (even if it feels like everything and is in some manner) in that case

i don't really get into the details about my health issues because i don't like people feeling like they know all of them, or some of the pity i've gotten and so on it's not something i enjoy

i get being tired of it though, it is a lot when it's constant and it's lonely and annoying and all that other fun **** that's a ***** to deal with though i'll be honest i only really feel much of anything about it occasionally otherwise it's just like "oh well this is my life" and it's sort of just normal

i try to just pretend it's not a thing in a sense because well i have sobered up a lot and still act like there's a future and health to worry about etc because if i lived like i was going to die i'd just go back to heroin and everything else i was doing you know?

like you said crazy **** happens, i've experienced plenty of crazy **** so i accept possibilities that sometimes it can work in my favor

i can't imagine having a phone for 6 years, i break and lose phones frequently

i do have north node in the 7th, right on my descendant, hope that it getting better with age thing is true lol

i have one white hair, and i have one that's just white in the middle for whatever reason like it started going white then changed its mind only got them this year but not everyone in my family gets them

maybe your saturn return will bring a couple lessons, it seems good at that either that or i recommend psychedelics lol

i've forced myself to stop sleeping on my stomach frequently (i would because it helped with pain there but then it'd make my back feel worse so there's no winning) no wrinkles from it though i've been lucky with that

my ascendant is libra so cardinal sign yeah, i currently have pluto and saturn going retrograde to square a bunch of my **** and saturn is going to retrograde all the way back til it's 1 degree conjunct my mars

she sold drugs because her bf at the time did i don't know if that makes a difference or not, but nah no way to know her time of birth

he doesn't deal with anything on his own, even him getting custody of his daughter was me helping him put everything he needed for court together and there was a point where he'd try to hand over his phone to anyone who was near him when her mother would text him etc it's ridiculous honestly how little he'll do for himself or anyone else to the point where if he wasn't so dependent on my mother i can't imagine how he'd survive in spite of being 7 years older than me

his longest relationship was on/off for 6 years, they never lived together and there were points where they only saw each other a couple of times a month

outside of that shorter ones, never lived with them never really saw them frequently long term etc his relationship with my niece's mother was only a couple of months though he does want a woman who will help him with things

he's interesting in the sense that he actually watches really unrealistic romance movies and then wants that and then well obviously that's not reality so i think for him it's more the idea of relationships vs the reality of them just not working out and he tends to become cold the second there's any actual issue that comes up or a rough patch

he tends to end up with jobs below what he could do if he tried harder while wanting to do lofty unrealistic things while having no real business sense

posted April 23, 2020 03:03 AM            

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Originally posted by astrosaz:
The guy I refered to in the first post that sparked this thread is a Libra Sun, Libra Rising. I found out his birth time is 6.35AM.

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Makes sense!

posted May 19, 2021 02:09 PM            

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Originally posted by Dumuzi:
only guy i know like that has a leo mars (trine jupiter, and trine his mercury/sun conjunction) and a pisces venus (conjunct saturn, square jupiter) no idea what his ascendant is but aries sun/mercury (his sun squares neptune and uranus, and trines jupiter but his mercury falls a couple degrees short of squaring uranus and only squares neptune/trines jupiter; his sun also trines his virgo moon while his mercury doesn't)

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posted May 19, 2021 03:40 PM            

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Originally posted by Hemilla:
It must be pisces, pisces is associated with makeup and "wearing a mask" also sexuality, hyper femininity , even magic, and makeup was a magical tool in some cultures such as Egypt where eye makeup is said to have originated

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