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astrosaz
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posted April 24, 2019 11:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for astrosaz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I know this guy who has a definite type. Girls who wear lots of make up, fillers, implants, all types of plastic surgery, garish and gaudy fashion, blow up doll kind of looking (not knocking or judging any of this, I'm a Leo Rising!)

I've known a lot of men who have a Venus In Leo who love this sort of look (I also knew a Venus in sag who loved this look which confused me) and I just wanted to know are there any aspects in ones chart that would be drawn to this type? Whether that's a 7th house in leo or a sun conjunct venus or something along those lines.

I want to see if your answers reflect his chart.

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posted April 25, 2019 01:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hmmm.Do you mean someone much like the "real life human Barbie" type of woman?

I think this can also be extended to men with implants. There are men who aspire to look like Ken dolls and will undergo surgery to get "the look".

I would say Taurus tends to be about "self enhancement" and is thus the energy I know who does not mind it.

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posted April 25, 2019 03:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for TuxLuigi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Being a male with dysfunctional sex drive

Noticed guys like this are never interested in making a woman come.. wonder why..

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posted April 25, 2019 04:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Plut0nian2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've seen this happen with heavy Aries a few times.
A friend of mine is with one (his Sun, Moon, Mercury in Aries, Venus and Mars in Pisces) His ex girlfriends were all like that. Fake to the bone. Tones of makeup, implants, hair extensions, long witch like nails, you know the whole plastic pack.
It's not the fake hair/nails or makeup by themselves it's the way they end up looking like plastic caricatures.
So now my friend's boyfriend asks her to put full makeup on, breast implants, silicone to make her lips juicy and dress more like a prostitute or something.
I mean they argue about it on a daily basis..

I can see how Taurus wouldn't mind all that fake beauty but I don't remember a non afflicted Taurus who looked bad and cheap even though being fake. There are lots of women who look nice and not cheap even though they have tons of fake stuff on them. You have to take into consideration their Venus I guess (taste).

I wonder if weak Mars in men, like Pisces for example is one of those. Or maybe Pisces Venus/Mars want perfect/unrealistic beauty?

I have Venus Mars and Jup in Leo plus lots of Neptune (Sun, Moon and ASC) and I like natural.. nothing is as classy and expensive looking as being on the natural/minimal side.

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posted April 25, 2019 07:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dumuzi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
only guy i know like that has a leo mars (trine jupiter, and trine his mercury/sun conjunction) and a pisces venus (conjunct saturn, square jupiter) no idea what his ascendant is but aries sun/mercury (his sun squares neptune and uranus, and trines jupiter but his mercury falls a couple degrees short of squaring uranus and only squares neptune/trines jupiter; his sun also trines his virgo moon while his mercury doesn't)

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posted April 25, 2019 09:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for girlwiththerainysoul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Moon/venus in libra and/or virgo
Libra for innate addiction to superficial beauty, and virgo for pickiness and wanting to make the other person feel "insecure" so they can fix them

Leos (sun, moon, venus) are attracted to stylish women and if her makeup or plastic surgery has been done with good taste, they wouldn't hate that.

Or moon/venus in a man's chart making aspect to his pluto, or placed in scorpio, sometimes the women these men go into a relationship with tend to transform physically over time to the point of being unrecognizable.

Based on experience the exact opposite are men with taurus placements (sun, moon, venus, mars). They like women natural, always urging their wives or girlfriends to wear less makeup and look more "naturally feminine".

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I had an ex with mars in Taurus opposite pluto. Leo AC, Capricorn moon and venus. He disliked high heels on women and used to say he never understood the point of them. Also said one of the reasons he was attracted to me was because I rarely had any makeup on. And how passionate I was about natural skin care, like almond oil for moisturizing and using natural floral waters as face and body splash.

When we were ending things, he asked me to give him something personal to remember me by. I had no idea what, and he aid, "how about one of your lipsticks?", I told him that I had run out of the only one I a few weeks ago and forgotten to get a new one. He scratched his head and said with a cute smile, "wow, this is gonna be one difficult ass break up!" and we both laughed lol.

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posted April 25, 2019 09:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dumuzi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by girlwiththerainysoul:
Moon/venus in libra and/or virgo
Libra for innate addiction to superficial beauty, and virgo for pickiness and wanting to make the other person feel "insecure" so they can fix them

Leos (sun, moon, venus) are attracted to stylish women and if her makeup or plastic surgery has been done with good taste, they wouldn't hate that.

Or moon/venus in a man's chart making aspect to his pluto, or placed in scorpio, sometimes the women these men go into a relationship with tend to transform physically over time to the point of being unrecognizable.

Based on experience the exact opposite are men with taurus placements (sun, moon, venus, mars). They like women natural, always urging their wives or girlfriends to wear less makeup and look more "naturally feminine".


the guy i mentioned has moon square pluto

that being said i have venus in libra and i'm a virgo sun, and i honestly don't care for it when women look that fake

i like femininity and i'm fine with make up (prefer when it's minimal) but only if a woman is pretty without it too

if a chick takes off her make up and doesnt look like her anymore i'm not interested, i dislike fake hair and nails etc and plastic surgery really doesnt interest me in an actual physical person people in pictures or in an artistic sense can be different though

my fiancee keeps her nails long on and off but they're always hers, i appreciate that she's always dressed feminine outside of work and she takes good care of her skin and hair etc and grooms herself but if it wasnt all her she wouldn't be as attractive to me

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posted April 26, 2019 12:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for astrosaz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Hmmm.Do you mean someone much like the "real life human Barbie" type of woman?

I think this can also be extended to men with implants. There are men who aspire to look like Ken dolls and will undergo surgery to get "the look".

I would say Taurus tends to be about "self enhancement" and is thus the energy I know who does not mind it.


Yes fake Barbie type, I never thought of Taurus being into the 'cheap' type though. I always thought of Taurus leaning towards a Salma Hayek or Kelly Brook sort of woman. Natural beauties because they'd want a trophy wife, where as I'd think a 'cheap' looking women on a Taurus arm would embarass them

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posted April 26, 2019 12:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for astrosaz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by TuxLuigi:
Being a male with dysfunctional sex drive

Noticed guys like this are never interested in making a woman come.. wonder why..


I wonder if it's anything to do with them looking cheap, so they like to treat them cheap? Like a control thing, like it turns them on because they think a woman like that is 'beneath' them (although that def is not true, they may have some warped desire that makes them believe this)

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posted April 26, 2019 12:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for astrosaz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Plut0nian2:
I've seen this happen with heavy Aries a few times.
A friend of mine is with one (his Sun, Moon, Mercury in Aries, Venus and Mars in Pisces) His ex girlfriends were all like that. Fake to the bone. Tones of makeup, implants, hair extensions, long witch like nails, you know the whole plastic pack.
It's not the fake hair/nails or makeup by themselves it's the way they end up looking like plastic caricatures.

I have known some Aries men like that also which is so strange as you'd assume they'd be into the natural tom boy typethat you read about a lot

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posted April 26, 2019 12:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for astrosaz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Dumuzi:
the guy i mentioned has moon square pluto

that being said i have venus in libra and i'm a virgo sun, and i honestly don't care for it when women look that fake

i like femininity and i'm fine with make up (prefer when it's minimal) but only if a woman is pretty without it too

if a chick takes off her make up and doesnt look like her anymore i'm not interested, i dislike fake hair and nails etc and plastic surgery really doesnt interest me in an actual physical person people in pictures or in an artistic sense can be different though


My father is also a Virgo like you and has a similar taste in women as you do.

The man who has sparked my curiosity into this subject also just loves beautiful women in general. A lot of them have loads of make up on and are very stylish, and then there are also a lot who are very 'trashy' (for lack of a better word) heavy makeup, addicted to plastic surgery, just really fake looking.

This man has Venus In Scorpio which baffles me. I know a lot of Venus In Scorpio men who are attracted to what you'd assume. Exotic, sexy, mysterious women. My father (Scorpio Venus) always had a thing for Sophia Loren, Raquel Welch, icons known for their sex appeal and not fake.

His Venus In Scorpio conjuncts his Pluto which makes me ponder if that's why he is attracted to the 'Pornstar' Look.

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posted April 26, 2019 12:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for astrosaz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here are the charts of some guys who are into the plastic, pretty type.

Two of the charts have accurate birth times (The Libra 1940 and the Aries) but not the Virgo and Libra 1992. Let's see if there are any recurring themes.

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posted April 26, 2019 03:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Plut0nian2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by astrosaz:
I have known some Aries men like that also which is so strange as you'd assume they'd be into the natural tom boy typethat you read about a lot

Aries women tend to be tomboys or not on the feminine side but it's different from Aries men who are masculine and want feminine ones.

In those charts I see weak Mars as a reoccuring theme, Mars in Cancer/Libra/Pisces/Taurus or Mars in hard aspect to Neptune is what I consider a weak Mars. In this case they are paired with Moon/Venus in Pisces/Taurus/Libra. The last two being superficial and all about outer beauty.. Pisces being unrealistic wanting things that aren't possible to naturally exist.
Now for Aries I don't know if it is like that by itself because the ones I kmoe have also weak Mars and a bit of Pisces (Venus/Mars)


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posted April 26, 2019 08:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dumuzi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by astrosaz:
My father is also a Virgo like you and has a similar taste in women as you do.

The man who has sparked my curiosity into this subject also just loves beautiful women in general. A lot of them have loads of make up on and are very stylish, and then there are also a lot who are very 'trashy' (for lack of a better word) heavy makeup, addicted to plastic surgery, just really fake looking.

This man has Venus In Scorpio which baffles me. I know a lot of Venus In Scorpio men who are attracted to what you'd assume. Exotic, sexy, mysterious women. My father (Scorpio Venus) always had a thing for Sophia Loren, Raquel Welch, icons known for their sex appeal and not fake.

His Venus In Scorpio conjuncts his Pluto which makes me ponder if that's why he is attracted to the 'Pornstar' Look.


my fiancee is bi and has that placement exact (scorpio venus conjunct pluto) and doesn't like women who are into plastic surgery and uncanny valley looking (this could just be partially due to her hating her mother who's gotten a lot of plastic surgery and is all about bleached hair, extensions, colored contacts, fake nails, tons of make up etc) she prefers them to be more natural and is less harsh of a judge than me (we tend to agree more on men than we do women, she usually agrees with me about women but sometimes she likes women that just... no, i'm not shallow but still)

she tends to like darker looks for herself and can sometimes mess around with **** that is fake herself when it's not permanent, but that was mostly when we were younger and dependent on whatever appearance phase she's going through (i prefer when she's not doing that, and like her current version of her) and it was more just experimentation when she was into fake hair and **** (she'd get mad at me for telling her i hated it) because she has liked to play with her appearance and being able to transform (the one unnatural permanent thing she's been into that she hasn't gone crazy far with is tight lacing which at a certain point i find repulsive but it's not one she wants to get to at least) but no plastic surgery, no tons of make up outside of pictures or to play around with it (she sees that sort of thing as art in a sense, alteration of appearance) and most days she's a lot more laid back than all that (to an extent she does groom more than most women, and does stick to a hyper feminine appearance most women dont, but again still achievable and she is just naturally pretty so even without any of that shes attractive which is why i find her attractive)

she can find the hard to achieve attractive for herself (not usually other women) but typically it's more natural looking or builds on foundations of what is natural but is more uncommon than anything

definitely hates the pornstar look and doesnt embody it though (to be fair though that idea of a pornstar look is pretty dated and most chicks in porn dont look like that anymore)

it could be scorpio to an extent because like i said when she was younger she had phases and can find things that take a lot of effort attractive

she has a neptune-venus sextile (mars sextile venus as well, her mars is in pisces conjunct jupiter and she has mars trine scorpio venus/pluto)

one thing about her though is she's very brutally honest about the fact that appearance matters a lot to her, she's told me it's one of the most important things to her (shes also told me she likes my looks more than my personality) and if she really doesnt like the way someone looks she has a hard time with even just being their friend

@Plut0nian2

by your definition i have a weak mars (conjunct neptune) in spite of it being in cap, paired with a libra venus (square it even) aries moon too and i'm realistic in what i like in women (also dont necessarily feel like finding someone attractive equates to sex or dating, though i have limits, who doesn't?) i think

then again i like when they're extremely feminine (appearance wise) in ways most women arent i suppose so there's that if im being fair

still not fake though, because if a woman isnt attractive without all that she isnt actually attractive

but i admittedly don't care for average, and have been accused of being shallow

they don't have to be perfect though, so i think that's an unfair assessment of me lol

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posted April 26, 2019 10:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for diamondbaby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Moon in Libra, Venus in Libra

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posted April 26, 2019 11:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Plut0nian2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Dumuzi:
@Plut0nian2

by your definition i have a weak mars (conjunct neptune) in spite of it being in cap, paired with a libra venus (square it even) aries moon too and i'm realistic in what i like in women (also dont necessarily feel like finding someone attractive equates to sex or dating, though i have limits, who doesn't?) i think

then again i like when they're extremely feminine (appearance wise) in ways most women arent i suppose so there's that if im being fair

still not fake though, because if a woman isnt attractive without all that she isnt actually attractive

but i admittedly don't care for average, and have been accused of being shallow

they don't have to be perfect though, so i think that's an unfair assessment of me lol


Cap Mars is the best Mars sign, better than Scorpio and Aries Mars combined. Imo of course.
Also your Neptune-Mars conjunction should be more than 5-6 orbs wide right?

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posted April 26, 2019 11:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dumuzi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Plut0nian2:
Cap Mars is the best Mars sign, better than Scorpio and Aries Mars combined. Imo of course.
Also your Neptune-Mars conjunction should be more than 5-6 orbs wide right?

it's loose yeah, but you could slap me anyway that's always a good time

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posted April 26, 2019 11:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Plut0nian2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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it's loose yeah, but you could slap me anyway that's always a good time

Yeah I remember your planet signs and this aspect. I guessed right some of them.

You're always quick I hoped you wouldn't see the slap part which I deleted because you didn't actually say that your Mars is weak

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posted April 26, 2019 11:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dumuzi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Yeah I remember your planet signs and this aspect. I guessed right some of them.

You're always quick I hoped you wouldn't see the slap part which I deleted because you didn't actually say that your Mars is weak


i have a tendency to look at things right after people have said something to me, i'll do the same thing with texts and ****

i could not be on my phone all day and then i'll pick it up right as or just after someone sent me a message

you got nearly all of them right, i was impressed lol you just weren't sure of my sun and mercury but you said both signs anyway so i count that as a win

how have you been anyway? last time we actually spoke you had some **** going on and didn't seem like you were in the best place

and not to go off topic too far the pisces venus guy i mentioned earlier who likes women like that doesn't usually actually end up dating that type though he has

he's been with chicks who wore a lot of make up not just on their faces but would put it on their chests and **** too (said one would give herself contouring on her stomach to sit on the beach) along with fake hair, fake nails etc and wouldn't let him see them without any make up because they had make up that was for bed and would wake up earlier than him to put on different make up in the morning

but his mars isn't weak unless it's in a terrible house for mars i guess, i don't know his birth time

anyway that's more what he likes a woman to be, but at the same time he's also gone out with some chicks who were nothing like that and unattractive so it's not necessarily an expectation

that being said he doesn't seem to care much for the reality of women in general when it comes to them having feelings and being people etc

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posted April 26, 2019 04:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Plut0nian2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Dumuzi:
i have a tendency to look at things right after people have said something to me, i'll do the same thing with texts and ****

i could not be on my phone all day and then i'll pick it up right as or just after someone sent me a message


Luck is with your side. (hopefully not only in these unimportant cases)
I am the opposite.


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you got nearly all of them right, i was impressed lol you just weren't sure of my sun and mercury but you said both signs anyway so i count that as a win

Heheh to be honest I have been doing the guessing game for years and whenever I sense/feel something I'm usually right or very close to it. I do that with famous people too. Maybe I should thank my Pisces Moon for that.

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how have you been anyway? last time we actually spoke you had some **** going on and didn't seem like you were in the best place

I'm in that same not best place that I've been for quite a few years and I see myself being there for the next few years too.
How are you doing? Have you managed to stay away from your bad habits?


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and not to go off topic too far the pisces venus guy i mentioned earlier who likes women like that doesn't usually actually end up dating that type though he has

he's been with chicks who wore a lot of make up not just on their faces but would put it on their chests and **** too (said one would give herself contouring on her stomach to sit on the beach) along with fake hair, fake nails etc and wouldn't let him see them without any make up because they had make up that was for bed and would wake up earlier than him to put on different make up in the morning



LOL!! I can't believe this is real. I don't want to believe there are girls doing that to themselves. That is torture and they must do nothing else all day long. They won't be able to do that for their whole life.. It's like pretending 24/7.
Reality is ugly and that ugly reality bonds you way more than the beautiful lie will ever do but I believe especially in this day and age many people will undertand that too late when beauty/youth has gone and real problems appear.


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but his mars isn't weak unless it's in a terrible house for mars i guess, i don't know his birth time

anyway that's more what he likes a woman to be, but at the same time he's also gone out with some chicks who were nothing like that and unattractive so it's not necessarily an expectation

that being said he doesn't seem to care much for the reality of women in general when it comes to them having feelings and being people etc


His Mars might be in 12th H? who knows?
Maybe I'm wrong about Mars but that's the pattern I see in the ones I know and the chart the OP posted.

Could you post his chart?

Here is the chart of a girl whose lips cover half of her face at this point, she has implants fake everything and spends all day getting ready. Plus she has sex with everyone but she is especially interested in her friends' boyfriends. Also pretends that men beg her but it's proven to be the exact opposite countless times. Don't know her tob.


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posted April 26, 2019 05:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SoulOfABird     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Plut0nian2:
Aries women tend to be tomboys or not on the feminine side but it's different from Aries men who are masculine and want feminine ones.

In those charts I see weak Mars as a reoccuring theme, Mars in Cancer/Libra/Pisces/Taurus or Mars in hard aspect to Neptune is what I consider a weak Mars. In this case they are paired with Moon/Venus in Pisces/Taurus/Libra. The last two being superficial and all about outer beauty.. Pisces being unrealistic wanting things that aren't possible to naturally exist.
Now for Aries I don't know if it is like that by itself because the ones I kmoe have also weak Mars and a bit of Pisces (Venus/Mars)


Aries woman are definitely not “tomboys” or not feminine. Aries woman are strong independent types and are very feminine. Just because they are strong and confident and don’t take crap doesn’t make them not feminine. So it makes plenty of sense that Aries venus or moon men like feminine women but with an edge. They don’t want a “damsel in distress” they want a woman who is confident, charismatic, and sexy. That is my experience with Aries Venus and moon men. There are plenty of Aries woman that are very into make up and very feminine. I think you have the wrong idea of Aries women.


But my input on the question;
Now I notice fire sign men really like glamorous women. Especially Leo.
Are you talking about the Kylie Jenner and instagram model types? Because I notice Leo amd Taurus men seem to like those kind of women. Lots of makeup and what not. As long as they find them pretty glamorous. Or maybe they like the attention of being with women over the top? Im not sure...

Im not sure if I understand the fascination though because even if they are plastic, doesn’t mean that they can only appeal to very specific group of guys. Yeah to some people it doesn’t look good. But Im sure there are some who think it does. Maybe they have personality traits those guys like in a girl? Whatever that might be. Maybe they don’t automatically not like the girl because her physical appearance.

Personally I find that Scorpio venus and moon, and Pisces venus and moon, don’t have any specific type. In my experience guys with these placements go with their vibes. That’s what they say. They always give a vague description of the kind of girl they are looking for.


If a guy finds “plastic types” as attractive I find it’s usually Leo moon, venus placements. And very possible for water placements as well. It doesn’t really suprise me that one of them has Pisces venus.

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posted April 26, 2019 05:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dumuzi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@Plut0nian2

mostly trivial stuff as far as good luck goes, at least currently, hopefully that changes soon

could be the pisces moon, or the pluto **** you've got going on i'm not nearly as good at guessing

sorry to hear that, on the bright side **** situations only make you stronger right? lol i'm alright, same as usual, been mostly sober since january except a 4 day binge with weed which doesn't even count that ended tuesday and i drank twice

that's pretty amazing for me sobriety though there was a few years i think the longest i was sober was 3 days in a row at most if that i'm not actually sure though

for a minute there i could've actually passed a drug test, which is a record for me lol of course i'd fail now but whatever i'm sober as i'm typing this at least and weed doesn't count much anyway

i was kind of amazed by it when he told me about the chicks, but at the same time my fiancee's mother told us about how she would do that with her first husband and all of her boyfriends except my fiancee's dad (but they grew up together, childhood friends so he knew her before she even started wearing make up) so i spent a long time around a woman who was like that and knew there were ones that crazy already lol

i can't imagine dating a woman like that not really getting to see or experience them seems miserable and like you said reality is ugly and that's what's binding every facet of a person not surface **** and lies

not to mention they have to be crazy to be that obsessive, my fiancee's mother is definitely crazy

this is his chart, i don't have his tob

that woman's chart is crazy because my fiancee's mom has a taurus venus too and 2 aries personal planets (no tob with her either, but this is her chart)

she's had a lot of plastic surgery (her lips done countless times, tummy tuck, face lift, her **** i'm not even sure what else), and just all kinds of fake (her hair, her nails, she wears colored contacts)

my fiancee and i basically raised her siblings at points after their dad died (they were 9 and we were 17 when it happened, we started dating at 18 around when their mother started to move on from his death and date so a lot of our late teens and early 20's was spent taking care of them) because this woman ******* would just go off with whatever boyfriends she had at the time (and there were always a few) instead of being a mother

she also did really ****** up **** once my fiancee and i started dating like groping me and calling me into rooms for favors and then being in the middle of changing and **** just all kinds of messed up while trying to get my fiancee and i to break up because i remind her of her first husband for whatever reason

she's also the one who introduced me to opiates when i was 15 and just fed me pills and alcohol when i was a teenager and **** too, because she's a big fan of those

wish i had a tob for her i wonder what else her and the chick you posted have in common

edit: just noticed my sun is conjunct my fiancee's mother's pluto exact, which made me realize it's also conjunct pluto in both of my parents' charts (loosely with theirs 7 degrees) that's some **** luck though lol


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Aries woman are definitely not “tomboys” or not feminine. Aries woman are strong independent types and are very feminine. Just because they are strong and confident and don’t take crap doesn’t make them not feminine. So it makes plenty of sense that Aries venus or moon men like feminine women but with an edge. They don’t want a “damsel in distress” they want a woman who is confident, charismatic, and sexy. That is my experience with Aries Venus and moon men. There are plenty of Aries woman that are very into make up and very feminine. I think you have the wrong idea of Aries women.


But my input on the question;
Now I notice fire sign men really like glamorous women. Especially Leo.
Are you talking about the Kylie Jenner and instagram model types? Because I notice Leo amd Taurus men seem to like those kind of women. Lots of makeup and what not. As long as they find them pretty glamorous. Or maybe they like the attention of being with women over the top? Im not sure...

Im not sure if I understand the fascination though because even if they are plastic, doesn’t mean that they can only appeal to very specific group of guys. Yeah to some people it doesn’t look good. But Im sure there are some who think it does. Maybe they have personality traits those guys like in a girl? Whatever that might be. Maybe they don’t automatically not like the girl because her physical appearance.

Personally I find that Scorpio venus and moon, and Pisces venus and moon, don’t have any specific type. In my experience guys with these placements go with their vibes. That’s what they say. They always give a vague description of the kind of girl they are looking for.


If a guy finds “plastic types” as attractive I find it’s usually Leo moon, venus placements. And very possible for water placements as well. It doesn’t really suprise me that one of them has Pisces venus.


my fiancee is an aries moon and she's feminine in appearance but definitely more of a tomboy when it comes to interests, most women aren't down to smoke a blunt and play call of duty then **** being real here

she has interests and a strong personality and like i've said itt is very feminine as far as the way she dresses and all that goes, and i prefer that balance of both things in a woman (i have an aries moon myself) but she does have a hard time relating to women

my mother is also an aries moon and she's a tomboy just straight up, no make up, not into anything particularly feminine at all (to be fair as far as interests go she's pretty much just exclusively into horror movies and halloween) etc

aries women can go either way appearance wise, but usually there's something about them (typically their ability to banter) that stands out from other women in ways men tend to relate to easier than women

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posted April 26, 2019 11:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Plut0nian2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by SoulOfABird:
Aries woman are definitely not “tomboys” or not feminine. Aries woman are strong independent types and are very feminine. Just because they are strong and confident and don’t take crap doesn’t make them not feminine. So it makes plenty of sense that Aries venus or moon men like feminine women but with an edge. They don’t want a “damsel in distress” they want a woman who is confident, charismatic, and sexy. That is my experience with Aries Venus and moon men. There are plenty of Aries woman that are very into make up and very feminine. I think you have the wrong idea of Aries women.

But my input on the question;
Now I notice fire sign men really like glamorous women. Especially Leo.
Are you talking about the Kylie Jenner and instagram model types? Because I notice Leo amd Taurus men seem to like those kind of women. Lots of makeup and what not. As long as they find them pretty glamorous. Or maybe they like the attention of being with women over the top? Im not sure...

Im not sure if I understand the fascination though because even if they are plastic, doesn’t mean that they can only appeal to very specific group of guys. Yeah to some people it doesn’t look good. But Im sure there are some who think it does. Maybe they have personality traits those guys like in a girl? Whatever that might be. Maybe they don’t automatically not like the girl because her physical appearance.

Personally I find that Scorpio venus and moon, and Pisces venus and moon, don’t have any specific type. In my experience guys with these placements go with their vibes. That’s what they say. They always give a vague description of the kind of girl they are looking for.


If a guy finds “plastic types” as attractive I find it’s usually Leo moon, venus placements. And very possible for water placements as well. It doesn’t really suprise me that one of them has Pisces venus.


I didn't talk about personality traits though.. they have nothing to do with being/looking feminine. You can be feminine and independent/strong at the same time.
I've known lots of heavy Aries women (and men actually) They are all far from being feminine, I don't know their birth times. I'm not saying all Aries women are like that especially if Sun is the only Aries placement is their Sun (they could have heavy Taurus/Pisces chart) but every heavy Aries I happen to know are far from feminine and that's not based just imo.

I can't say much about Cancer planets other than Cancer Moon men who don't seem to like those types at all.
Two of them have Venus in Cap and Mars in Scorpio, while the other one has Venus in Scorpio Mars in Sag.

As for Scorpio heavy charts (along with Caps and Aquas) are the signs I attract all the time.
Sun, Mercury, Mars and Pluto in Scorpio
I've known 4 with this combo basically all born a few days apart.
They don't really like that type at all.
(they have Moon in Taurus, Cancer and Leo).
One of them told me "thanks to this trend we can see who has brains in her head without wasting much time".

I have little experience with Pisces too other than Mars, I don't believe a placement is enough by itself it has to a pattern but I can see why Pisces Mars and/or Venus might like something like that if the rest of the chart (especially Moon) supports it.

My best friend's boyfriend (Aries Sun, Moon, Mercury, Pisces Venus & Mars) is swallow af generally. (she is just blinded even though at the same time she sees it but anyway they are going to break up). He tries to be too macho in many ways, I believe he has some kind of complex (which I see very often with Mars in Pisces and I believe it's worst in his case because of his Aries planets). He tries to make my friend feel ugly and inferior in many ways too.
I don't think this whole plastic trend thing is sexy/feminine and it shows the opposite of being strong/confident.

I don't really know heavy Libra/Taurus/Lro charts but I thought they have fine taste. Leo when afflicted can definately be/like extremes of anything. Maybe we have to look Jupiter aspects other than Neptune too? And lack of Pluto and Saturn aspects at the same time?

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sorry to hear that, on the bright side **** situations only make you stronger right? lol i'm alright, same as usual, been mostly sober since january except a 4 day binge with weed which doesn't even count that ended tuesday and i drank twice

that's pretty amazing for me sobriety though there was a few years i think the longest i was sober was 3 days in a row at most if that i'm not actually sure though

for a minute there i could've actually passed a drug test, which is a record for me lol of course i'd fail now but whatever i'm sober as i'm typing this at least and weed doesn't count much anyway


That's a lie to make people feel better. I would prefer to be weaker and happier lol.
All that water I have makes me care about strangers too so this made me happy to read Dumuzi, I'm proud of you. I believe drugs are the hardest to stay away from once you've been into them for good and I know you've been.


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i was kind of amazed by it when he told me about the chicks, but at the same time my fiancee's mother told us about how she would do that with her first husband and all of her boyfriends except my fiancee's dad (but they grew up together, childhood friends so he knew her before she even started wearing make up) so i spent a long time around a woman who was like that and knew there were ones that crazy already lol

i can't imagine dating a woman like that not really getting to see or experience them seems miserable and like you said reality is ugly and that's what's binding every facet of a person not surface **** and lies

not to mention they have to be crazy to be that obsessive, my fiancee's mother is definitely crazy


Agreed with everything you said. I find it sad and I believe it shows quite a few things about someone's personality even though it's something superficial by itself it's usually linked with deeper problems.


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this is his chart, i don't have his tob

that woman's chart is crazy because my fiancee's mom has a taurus venus too and 2 aries personal planets (no tob with her either, but this is her chart)

she's had a lot of plastic surgery (her lips done countless times, tummy tuck, face lift, her **** i'm not even sure what else), and just all kinds of fake (her hair, her nails, she wears colored contacts)

my fiancee and i basically raised her siblings at points after their dad died (they were 9 and we were 17 when it happened, we started dating at 18 around when their mother started to move on from his death and date so a lot of our late teens and early 20's was spent taking care of them) because this woman ******* would just go off with whatever boyfriends she had at the time (and there were always a few) instead of being a mother

she also did really ****** up **** once my fiancee and i started dating like groping me and calling me into rooms for favors and then being in the middle of changing and **** just all kinds of messed up while trying to get my fiancee and i to break up because i remind her of her first husband for whatever reason

she's also the one who introduced me to opiates when i was 15 and just fed me pills and alcohol when i was a teenager and **** too, because she's a big fan of those

wish i had a tob for her i wonder what else her and the chick you posted have in common

edit: just noticed my sun is conjunct my fiancee's mother's pluto exact, which made me realize it's also conjunct pluto in both of my parents' charts (loosely with theirs 7 degrees) that's some **** luck though lol


Oh God.. I kind of feel angry that she was the one to introduce you to drugs and alcohol.. She was a grown up woman and mother and she treated you like that? Let alone the fact that she wanted to f*** with her daughter's boyfriend.
I can see the girl I mentioned doing that to her children to feel like she looks better than her younger daughter and she's still valid or something, I mean she does that with anyone else since we were teens anyway.

Those two definately don't have a weak Mars. And I see the same as you do.
Also the first one's Moon might be in Leo it would make more sense.
Your fiance's mother might have Moon in Taurus too which is still among those 4 signs. However based on your description Aries Moon suits her better.
So we have Aries and Taurus the most, Pisces and Leo following them.

I don't think I will ever be able to find that girl's tob though.

I'm trying to find another's girl birthday from my school who is like that and I remember her being an Aries but I can't say for sure. I'm really curious now.

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