posted July 02, 2019 07:23 PM            

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posted July 02, 2019 08:31 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
The water voids have a very hard time accessing their emotions

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posted July 02, 2019 08:36 PM            

And what about outer planets in water aspecting your ASC or something?

Was actually gonna make a post about this... But this person is a Pisces rising. I guess that would change things? But really his 'inner feelings' should be just as dead, shouldn't it?

posted July 02, 2019 08:51 PM            

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Originally posted by Brenda_S:
Do you have any Neptune or Pluto aspects?

And what about outer planets in water aspecting your ASC or something?

Was actually gonna make a post about this... But this person is a Pisces rising. I guess that would change things? But really his 'inner feelings' should be just as dead, shouldn't it?

Also, I'm thinking fire planets feel too. It's more so passion but still.

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posted July 03, 2019 07:11 AM            

i tend to just be at this neutral base state

though that being said i'm not particularly good at figuring out what i'm feeling at all so even when i do feel something else it's difficult for me to place it or describe it

i'm good with knowing what other people feel though, i've had a lot of people tell me i'm more understanding than anyone they know etc

with myself though i can't sort through any of it

that all being said i find emotions mostly useless unless they're good and not worth the trouble of having or acknowledging in many cases

if anything they're better off being stuffed down or let go of, better things to focus on and they're ephemeral anyway

it's not like they're good for decisions and **** like that either

i have outer planets in water (pisces jupiter in my 5th though my 5th is aquarius cusp, scorpio pluto in my 1st but libra ascendant) and that's it

@Brenda_S

i have sun trine neptune, loose mars-neptune conjunction, sun sextile pluto and a fire moon and mercury and i still experience that

i have feelings don't get me wrong, but they're fleeting generally and i don't really care about most of them

posted July 03, 2019 09:20 AM            

i play guitar, sing, and write which actually does work with emotions and processing heavier ****

what i don't get out elsewhere i get out through that, which is the healthier manifestation of that

on the unhealthy side of things i tend to look externally for stimulation and to feel things which in my case becomes sex, drugs, thrill seeking activities etc to not just feel that neutral base state

hard time with crying and **** too, it's awful

my issues with experiencing my own feelings or even feeling much at all in a good deal of cases are why i hate funerals

i find it extremely uncomfortable to be around groups of people who are expressing deep emotions because i can't the way they seem to be able to and i always end up getting this sense that i feel a lot less than them and i don't care for them knowing that

one person with feelings i can handle because i can get a feel for them and focus on them and it isn't about me at all

posted July 03, 2019 03:49 PM            

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posted July 03, 2019 05:39 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Water void seems to miss subtext, which is the meaning under things like subtle cues

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i can catch subtle **** with other people, it's my own emotions in particular that i can't really figure out

i wish i got paid every time someone's asked me how i was doing when a lot was going on and the only thing i could think to tell them was "i don't know"

people give off energy though, and even if it's subtle if you're just aware of that you can figure out what they're feeling and **** by paying attention to that kind of thing during interactions, whereas when it comes to the self that isn't possible

posted July 03, 2019 08:49 PM            

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Originally posted by MMarie:
Thanks Dumuzi. So I’m not the only one haha. I think we’ve talked about this before and know we have some similar placements. I think it sucks though because the more I ignore my feelings the more numb I am. Just a constant struggle. 🤷🏼‍♀️

You’ve said you play the guitar or do some type of arts? Maybe the key is just concentrating on finding an outlet. I know exercise helps me sometimes.

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I was talking to someone today who has Aphophis conj his Mercury---exact. Interesting that James Comey has this too and it is exact.

However, this person finds it very hard to figure out how to do things most people think are simple like go from the first step---you have a leak in your roof, call for several estimates, interview the people who come over and ask questions, choose a person etc etc

He says he feels super handicapped. I get that totally but I tell him EVERYONE has something.

I have Sado conj my IC exact---Sadism as a child. How I even got this far is a miracle. If you can imagine a little kid having to navigate a mine field of sadistic mother.

I think the water void is very hard! I think it is one of those things that are like the above.

You have to count it as a pain kind of aspect.

posted July 03, 2019 08:54 PM            

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posted July 03, 2019 09:16 PM            

@dumuzi I joke all the time about it too. People who don’t know me very well think it’s hilarious but sometimes my immediate family cringes because they know that’s how I really feel. Also like you in the fact I notice when I am going through a hard time I like to help others or seek out talking to someone who is going through a hard time. Definitely helping others helps your self. I’ve actually had that realization recently. Very interesting the similarities.

posted July 03, 2019 09:23 PM            

I am an earth void so understand the power of voids. I am so "not on the ground" lol

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posted July 03, 2019 10:12 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
I am not trying to dismiss your pain at ALL, Marie. I think you are a total doll. I was just giving my 2 cents.

I am an earth void so understand the power of voids. I am so "not on the ground" lol

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posted July 04, 2019 02:31 AM            

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Originally posted by MMarie:
@AmiAnne thank you for the kind words. You are very right, everyone has their struggle. Just at times I feel lonely because of this or stuck and come here to vent.
And very sorry to hear about your mother. I am sure you do help many people because of this or at least can relate to others who struggle like me. 😀

@dumuzi I joke all the time about it too. People who don’t know me very well think it’s hilarious but sometimes my immediate family cringes because they know that’s how I really feel. Also like you in the fact I notice when I am going through a hard time I like to help others or seek out talking to someone who is going through a hard time. Definitely helping others helps your self. I’ve actually had that realization recently. Very interesting the similarities.

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yeah same actually, people who know i mean it don't find it as funny as people who don't and i do

me going through a hard time is when i stop talking to people i'm not forced to interact with through circumstance and get **** faced and go for really long walks at night alone to get away and isolate myself while simultaneously spending a lot of time flirting with people i don't know and **** like that

because when i'm going through something that's deeply painful i don't know how to really put all of it into words so i just don't and people i know will ask questions i can't answer and don't feel comfortable lying about whereas with people i don't know it's the more fun side of interaction

being there for other people is a little more like studying emotion for me and i find it helpful, and whether i'm going through **** or not seems to be irrelevant in regards to me doing that

im pretty ok with it though tbh, the numbness, people who don't have it don't entirely seem better off for it so it could be worse my mother and fiancee are both water heavy earth voids and that seems more intense and like way too much

i've been around other water voids both of my brothers(my older brother is an earth and water void), my ex fwbs, and i'm about 95% sure my current fwbs is one too (i don't know his ascendant) but i've never talked with any of them about the numbness **** and not really feelings in general so it's interesting to see you express it

i think in my case mercury and uranus on my moon add a level of detachment which makes it better

posted July 04, 2019 04:47 AM            

It's like people who say "I'M NOT SHOUTING!!!" but they are. They don't see their own emotions like how others (especially the intuitive ones) can.

posted July 05, 2019 12:50 PM            

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Originally posted by Dumuzi:

@Brenda_S

i have sun trine neptune, loose mars-neptune conjunction, sun sextile pluto and a fire moon and mercury and i still experience that

i have feelings don't get me wrong, but they're fleeting generally and i don't really care about most of them

a water ascendant wouldn't count the same as a void since ascendant is such a major placement though

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I wonder, you think? Like would it make a person 'internally sensitive' with the only water personal placement being the ascendant?

posted July 05, 2019 05:22 PM            

Feeling "numb" is something many of us go through. Its not a water voidness thing, in my experience. Feeling numb and shut down is one of Plutos signums. Aswell as the heavy planets saturn, uranus and neptune.

posted July 05, 2019 07:01 PM            

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Originally posted by Melinn:
You are not "water void", at all.
You have water planet Pluto of all planets, in your 4th house, a water house I mind you. Is IC in scorpio aswell? 4th house is a very sensetive house and you may have a hard time to process this house, maybe.

Feeling "numb" is something many of us go through. Its not a water voidness thing, in my experience. Feeling numb and shut down is one of Plutos signums. Aswell as the heavy planets saturn, uranus and neptune.

Also you write that Pluto is aspecting many planets, even if they are over 6 degrees, so what? So no, you are not water void

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My ic is in late Libra. I read with water voids or “low water” outer planets in water do not really count or help much and same with aspects. On the other hand I read having singletons are even stronger and can take over a chart. Not sure what’s the case but I do know I have a hard time processing my emotions or at least figuring them out or logically connecting what causes them. I shut down instead. My emotions very much get stuck in my body causing sickness/ physical issues which could be sun conjunct moon in first house.

posted July 06, 2019 03:33 AM            

But I also think that being water void means you also tend to "overcompensate" by being excessive with emotional displays at largely inappropriate times i.e.after months of minding your own business and going about your business,you see a doc on starving children and are just overcome with grief. Crying to a point of excess etc.

Earth Void-Drawn to a traditional "manageable" life and conservative views. One prefers a more "hands on" systematic approach to doing things that grounds one to the here and now.

Air void- a strong focus on ideas and expression. One may yearn to have a more social life or contacts through which one can perceive external experiences and the world. Love of mental games or quizzes.

posted July 06, 2019 06:32 AM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
I will go out on a limb here and say that on the one hand, it may make sense to conclude that being "water void" means you have a hard time being emotional etc.

But I also think that being water void means you also tend to "overcompensate" by being excessive with emotional displays at largely inappropriate times i.e.after months of minding your own business and going about your business,you see a doc on starving children and are just overcome with grief. Crying to a point of excess etc.

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posted July 07, 2019 04:07 AM            

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Originally posted by kani:
I have a lot of water and my emotional reaction can sometimes be verryyy delayed! I actually did spent a good chunk of my life sorting out emotions that were stuck in my system because I couldn't process them before. That could also be Pluto in 4 (need to dig deep and digest emotions) and especially Saturn in 4, which I both have.

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