posted July 15, 2019 11:02 PM            

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Originally posted by charlie:
Very (!) tired!! Had a bad car crash with a moose same day as full moon in April and it’s been sh1t ever since. Some days I’m so tired I can barely stand up :-/

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posted July 15, 2019 11:04 PM            

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Originally posted by mirage29:
Charlie! ouch ..
Hope you're back up on your feet soon.

Hypatia --
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Asteroid 433 Eros can give us added information on a very particular kind of love.
When touched off by transit, aspect or synastry,
Eros evokes passions that are 'not' based on lunar comfort, Venus sensuality or Mars desires.
Eros is 'not' about relationships that make us feel secure, worthy or satisfied.
It is 'not' about getting our way or winning love.
It is 'not' about commitment or harmony.

[b]Eros is about merging a piece of our own heart with the beloved to create change.

With Eros, there is a sense of risk--
whether the beloved is an individual,
a creative project
or an icon of the divine.

When Eros awakens, no mater how unaffected the other planets are, something begins to brew beneath the surface. Given a chance to operate, a potent energy is always unleashed.

The potential rewards of such a union are not always measurable by common standards-- like success, endurance, wealth or overt meaning.

An encounter with Eros does 'not' build empires, launch careers or plan weddings: it grows souls.

Without considering the god of love in the horoscope, we may miss the power behind our urge to transform through love. The best way to welcome this kind of transformation is to allow it.

REF - http://www.falconastrology.com/transits.htm

ATROPOS is the mark of conclusion and beginning of a new cycle.[/B]

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Bless you for posting this! Thank you. "It grows souls." Love it.

posted July 16, 2019 12:40 AM            

On one hand there is saturn conjunct southnode near the eclipse yes indicating the release of old karmic ties BUT on the other hand there is Venus conjunct Northnode in Cancer in the 8th. I feel this release will result in a new love coming into our life that feels very fated and will result in a very deep bond, deep attachment.

posted July 16, 2019 11:21 AM            

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Originally posted by mirage29:
[b]Happy Birthday, Somna! (Sun 25 Cancer) [/B]

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posted July 16, 2019 12:57 PM            

"In your natal chart, Thisbe and Pyramus are influences that would be more telling when activated by transit. When activated, Thisbe or Pyramus indicate a time when love, attention or attraction just won’t be enough. This can relate to work or other projects as well as romance, anything that involves pure passion on your part. You will face hurdles from family members, or authority figures, anyone who has an active say in how your desire is to unfold and hit blockages whichever way you turn."

Why do I Have to Have Thisbe on my EROS?! WHY?!F ME. hahahahah

This explains a lot though...its odd bc I have Thisbe conjunct Eros and conjunct ANGEL.

I guess I will never be able to have what I desire and maybe my twin flame is an angel so I will never be able to be with them bc they are in another realm....if twin flames exist.

But bottom line is that Thisbe is blocking the expression of my Eros and this lunar eclipse is activating this with mercury.

Then add that Transit Pyramus and Thisbe today are forming a Grand Trine with my Sun in Virgo at 28 degrees. So the theme for the next 3 to 6 months is for me not to get my hearts desire and:

"The outcome of this connection is death. In the natal chart, one can surmise that the journey which begins under the influence of Thisbe or Pyramus, whilst tough on the emotions, will ultimately bring closure to old habits or thought processes that are hindering you, and where you are unaware that they are doing so."

https://irisastro.wordpress.com/2017/02/17/asteroid-88-thisbe-asteroid-14871-pyramus/

posted July 16, 2019 01:08 PM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
I am looking at the event chart again.

On one hand there is saturn conjunct southnode near the eclipse yes indicating the release of old karmic ties BUT on the other hand there is Venus conjunct Northnode in Cancer in the 8th. I feel this release will result in a new love coming into our life that feels very fated and will result in a very deep bond, deep attachment.

Reinforcing this karmnic theme we also have Pyramus in Capricorn at 29 degrees trine Thisbe in Taurus at 26 degrees at time of eclipse. Karmic ties ending and letting go is also reinforced with this aspect.

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it's funny that you wrote this, because i'm at a place where i'm really happy about just being my ex fiancee's friend at this point and i noticed yesterday this new guy and i have a lot of pluto contacts with and **** (my pluto hits his mars, venus, and moon) and it all feels pretty karmic/fated (for reasons i'm pretty sure i know)

it's someone water heavy again (idk his rising but he's a pisces mercury/sun and scorpio mars) except he's not an earth void (taurus venus and moon) like she was

idk that her and i will ever get back together (few card readings indicate some **** along those lines, or just something positive between us which i'm honestly hoping is just friendship at this point) but i feel like where things are at is promising and a lot better than where they were so i'm good

it feels right to leave what was behind and move forward, there's mutual love between her and i always will be she's family at the very least with all the years and experiences we have between us

posted July 16, 2019 01:14 PM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
Oh God I actually have Thisbe in Leo at 3 degrees conjunct Eros in Leo at 1 degree:

"In your natal chart, Thisbe and Pyramus are influences that would be more telling when activated by transit. When activated, Thisbe or Pyramus indicate a time when love, attention or attraction just won’t be enough. This can relate to work or other projects as well as romance, anything that involves pure passion on your part. You will face hurdles from family members, or authority figures, anyone who has an active say in how your desire is to unfold and hit blockages whichever way you turn."

Why do I Have to Have Thisbe on my EROS?! WHY?!F ME. hahahahah

This explains a lot though...its odd bc I have Thisbe conjunct Eros and conjunct ANGEL.

I guess I will never be able to have what I desire and maybe my twin flame is an angel so I will never be able to be with them bc they are in another realm....if twin flames exist.

But bottom line is that Thisbe is blocking the expression of my Eros and this lunar eclipse is activating this with mercury.

Then add that Transit Pyramus and Thisbe today are forming a Grand Trine with my Sun in Virgo at 28 degrees. So the theme for the next 3 to 6 months is for me not to get my hearts desire and:

"The outcome of this connection is death. In the natal chart, one can surmise that the journey which begins under the influence of Thisbe or Pyramus, whilst tough on the emotions, will ultimately bring closure to old habits or thought processes that are hindering you, and where you are unaware that they are doing so."

https://irisastro.wordpress.com/2017/02/17/asteroid-88-thisbe-asteroid-14871-pyramus/

Add my Saturn in scorpio squares my Eros conjunct Thisbe and Angel stellium. F ME. I guess that is my karma in this life.

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You know on a positive note the eclipse activating my Thisbe/Eros/Angel stellium square Saturn maybe means I am burning off at least SOME of this freaking karma that is a big pain in my butt.

posted July 16, 2019 01:21 PM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
Oh God I actually have Thisbe in Leo at 3 degrees conjunct Eros in Leo at 1 degree:

"In your natal chart, Thisbe and Pyramus are influences that would be more telling when activated by transit. When activated, Thisbe or Pyramus indicate a time when love, attention or attraction just won’t be enough. This can relate to work or other projects as well as romance, anything that involves pure passion on your part. You will face hurdles from family members, or authority figures, anyone who has an active say in how your desire is to unfold and hit blockages whichever way you turn."

Why do I Have to Have Thisbe on my EROS?! WHY?!F ME. hahahahah

This explains a lot though...its odd bc I have Thisbe conjunct Eros and conjunct ANGEL.

I guess I will never be able to have what I desire and maybe my twin flame is an angel so I will never be able to be with them bc they are in another realm....if twin flames exist.

But bottom line is that Thisbe is blocking the expression of my Eros and this lunar eclipse is activating this with mercury.

Then add that Transit Pyramus and Thisbe today are forming a Grand Trine with my Sun in Virgo at 28 degrees. So the theme for the next 3 to 6 months is for me not to get my hearts desire and:

"The outcome of this connection is death. In the natal chart, one can surmise that the journey which begins under the influence of Thisbe or Pyramus, whilst tough on the emotions, will ultimately bring closure to old habits or thought processes that are hindering you, and where you are unaware that they are doing so."

https://irisastro.wordpress.com/2017/02/17/asteroid-88-thisbe-asteroid-14871-pyramus/

Add my Saturn in scorpio squares my Eros conjunct Thisbe and Angel stellium. F ME. I guess that is my karma in this life.

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i don't believe in karma personally (i think it's something people are taught exists to keep them in line and afraid, creates weakness in a sense) largely due to occult study and experiences in that field, but not getting exactly what you desire isn't always the worst thing

might just mean your fulfillment in life will come from other areas, and it's just hard to see the value in them when you're focused on those desires

and if your twin flame was in the astral realm rather than the material one, that doesn't necessarily have to keep you from them

posted July 16, 2019 01:52 PM            

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Originally posted by Dumuzi:
i don't believe in karma personally (i think it's something people are taught exists to keep them in line and afraid, creates weakness in a sense) largely due to occult study and experiences in that field, but not getting exactly what you desire isn't always the worst thing

might just mean your fulfillment in life will come from other areas, and it's just hard to see the value in them when you're focused on those desires

and if your twin flame was in the astral realm rather than the material one, that doesn't necessarily have to keep you from them

perception is the only thing limiting people to this plane of existence anyway, dig deeper and that wall isn't there

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Its funny I don't truly belief in Karma either, I think we create it with hour mind if anything by torturing ourselves.

posted July 16, 2019 02:05 PM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
Its funny I don't truly belief in Karma either, I think we create it with hour mind if anything by torturing ourselves.

Beautifully put Dumuzi, thanks for these uplifting words. Hugs.

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no **** that's actually exactly how i see it, i think karma acts on the principle of will and people convincing themselves they deserve punishment will bring it to themselves

guilt and all that just piling on negativity and pulling it their way

though my thoughts towards karma extend a little deeper and go into things about power structure and weakness and so on and so forth (because i always take it there lol) and how it's convenient for the masses to believe in consequences where there are none, especially for those who recognize that's not true and act on it

so my stance on karma is pretty similar to my views on abrahamic faiths and the ways romans used christianity for power etc

all that being said, you're welcome, and that whole "death" thing that's not necessarily bad

a lot of people hate seeing cards like death or the tower come up in tarot readings, but i actually always really appreciate it when i see them because that means there's a new beginning out of the ashes coming too

from what i can tell you're an amazing person, and i don't doubt that you'll find plenty of other people who see it and i'm sure at least one of them will appreciate you the way you need them too

i think with relationships you can't really measure their success by whether or not they last long term in the same manner you thought they would, just whether or not they have meaning

posted July 16, 2019 02:15 PM            

I'll post chart here, so if someone finds it interesting, help me to figure out how this eclipse effect me..

I don't really know what this event may bring me, but surely will activate personal matters because it's happening in my intercepted 1st and 7th houses!

What do ya think?
Here are celestial events for my chart
and chart with transits

[img]https://i.ibb.co/tPbsjMp/natal-tr.png[/img]
[img]https://i.ibb.co/H4bxh6S/tranzits.png[/img]

posted July 17, 2019 12:01 AM            

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I hope this year brings a lot of positive exciting changes into your life Somna7H!

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posted July 17, 2019 11:17 AM            

Happy Birthday, Pocketrocket! (July 17)

Thank you for providing your chart.

You have a Sun opp Mars r H1 with tSaturn r Cap on top of the Mars.

I've heard one astrologer describe Saturn to Mars energy, using the metaphor of Mars being the gas-pedal, and tSaturn as putting on the brakes. (Sometimes, the brakes are needed when you are rounding certain corners/changes in your life, so you can pay better attention with also better stabilization.)

Natal Sun opp Mars--
with tSaturn on Mars, and opp Sun.
That can feel like a frustration. Saturn across from your Sun could add to any sense of discouragement (in addition to Saturn on your go go go Mars!!!).
Can have a sense of 'world weariness' and as though heavy weights are afflicting you, and as though you are inexplicably being blocked by folks in relationship with you, ones you work-with, etc? *hug*

With the Capricorn transits in your H1, your Identity and sense of who you are is being regenerated, rebuilt. Can produce a body weariness too.

"Inch by Inch is a cinch;
Yard by Yard is hard."
-- quote

The things I've read would say that "patience" is needed for you, right now. H1.. It's not a time of necessarily starting brand new glitzy endeavors just yet.

Good to try to relate to people. Build trust.

With tNeptune squaring your Chiron, be aware of 'who' you are attracted to, in terms of bosses, gurus/teachers/ etc. There's a tendency to see those types as 'shiny' objects, when in fact they may find them later to be charlatans! Continue to be careful of what and who you invest in.

Keep an excellent common-sense intact.
And! (if you can) have an arsenal of 'true' friends you can REALLY trust for feedback.

(To me) You have a delicious chart. Challenges sure, and, such wonderful potential is there. I really hope you find some solid good friends.
You have a LOT to offer them, and, hopefully it will solidly be mutual some day!

Just a SURREAL note---
When I opened my ephemeris to hunt down the year you were born, by looking up your chart placements?-- I opened the book EXACTLY to your page!!!

Your Sun 24+ Cancer is on Fixed Star Procyon.
You have some excellent configurations of other planets to your Sun.
- http://astrologyking.com/procyon-star/
{I have Vertex at 24, and Uranus 25 Cancer.}

I send you deeply-felt "Birthday Blessings", and a Powerful Wish for 'everything' to fall into perfect-place for you, in your life. ..

Just as this eclipse has also played an important part in my chart H8, and I had turned to the exact page of your ephemeris data, serendipitously--

May things come around right into your 'Pocket', YOUR Year, Your Life's Garden, Your Success in Life as you choose best values.

You have F.S.Spica ON your Libra MC, with your SN there. Know that inside-you, you are born with a Lucky Star on the most-elevated part of your chart. Your SN there, already 'knows' what to do. May you have Great Success.
- http://astrologyking.com/spica-star/

So. Thanking God for your incarnation today.
May you attract people with your Saggi Ascendant, who will BE there, meeting you on subsequent steps of your Adventure ahead.

That your 'intuitions' come from the highest order of things for your life. That you have people with "best" intentions in their soul be strong in your life.

Stay 'aware' and note the people you are attracting.
Try not to take 'feelings of being blocked' personally, where it affects your confidence.

Know yourself more, and more.
Help others.....
Have a progressively unfolding Lucky Year ahead!

(music) Inch Worm (Danny Kaye, The Muppets) [2:47] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wtk-ZmYlxPA

song is from the musical based on the story of Hans Christian Anderson (The Netherlands)
[2:02] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fXi3bjKowJU

posted July 17, 2019 11:40 AM            

(topic) Lunar Eclipse in Capricorn July 16 Powerful Full Moon For Deep Change (Donna Page) [10:23] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHDxobPjfKs

Wow. This posted when I hit 'enter' after copy-paste the url. Didn't mean for this to get posted right away.
___________________

She was saying 'Where is your Family' .. Who is your Family.. when this posted suddenly.

I could use the support of a family (some allies) right now, as I've been scared of medical symptoms. I don't have a support network, and I very much fear being subjected-to and being very-vulnerable in 'the system'-- without having another soul there WITH me, to accompany me. Overwhelming.

In the past few years, I had tried finding my DNA family. There is sooo much HATRED. So toxic. I remember when my best-friend Scorpio Grandmother (with her daughter Sag), noticed how I kept going back to them**, and all they wanted to do was to hurt me, in cruel ways, on-purpose. It was quite a dysfunctional family, that shredded apart especially after my Scorpio Grandmother (pgm) died in 1984 on July 4th. Found out my Saggi aunt passed away this past spring. Those two people were my only-friends in a family so filled with hate.

** One of the most-important things that those two women tried to convey to me was to protect my Heart-- that I "don't have to" let "those people" hurt me anymore. They watched the cruelty that abounded. They advised that I stay away from them. They were having very toxic effects in me. Hurt me sooooo badly. I wanted a family that was 'well' and supportive to each other. Family of origin. Not-to-have-been my experience, this lifetime. *sad about that today, heartbroken disappointed*

I'm terrified being older, and not having a family, a group of friends I can relate to. After my relocation here in 2001-- I was never able to find supportive-people.

(relo Neptune went from 10th House, into the 11th. I have some VERY astrologically significant stories regarding that fateful move.)

As the astrologer asks... 'Who is your tribe'?
The person I've been living non-romantically for the past 12 years is sooooo frickin' detached. I could REALLY use his support towards advice about my life-affairs, even to accompany me to medical (as I have had 'trauma' regarding medical-procedures and ERRORS they made, in my past too).
He is 'just another person' and incredibly plastic-wrapped into his own affairs. When HE had been in times of trouble, and had gone through surgeries and strokes, I had been there for him, taking care of all his needs.

He is 'not capable' (reality) of reciprocating care and support I need on physical-emo levels regarding scary symptoms I've been having.

Too afraid to face 'the system' alone, and vulnerable-- especially when your incapacitated because of pain and not REALLY being ABLE to 'communicate' thoughts correctly.
As I've said, there have been 'errors' made medically on me in the past.
When I've confronted (nurses) for the obvious-mistake that had NOT been corrected in the electronic files they use-- I remember the last one saying so ~~cavalier, Yeah, they "should have" changed that. I noticed it. ... but.... and she persisted continuing the error!!!!
That's just tip of the iceberg!! LOL

When you're "alone" without an advocate, without someone there 'to watch your back', …

Anyways...
I really don't know.
And personally, I'm scared..

Spiritually, and other-wise, I feel very healthy, and solid in those things.

Physical symptoms I deal with (and lack of supportive circumstances in environment) keep me from forward-movement right now-- I'm trying to keep my best foot forward. I do volunteer work in my community----- I just wish I had a personal realcommunity to rely on right now. *brave smile*

Was in a church during the eclipses (both of them), as they happened right after my volunteer shift, which location was near a cathedral church.

I have the WORST time reaching out to others. It's one of my most grievous faults; I can be there 'in a flash' for other people's needs... but when it comes to my own??? I'm such a coward. …

Okay. Gonna go Cheer myself up!!!
Heat up some Good Coffee, and experience that pleasure.

(music) Do You Know Where You're Going To (Diana Ross) [3:24] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JXzaAyCPP4A

posted July 17, 2019 01:38 PM            

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Originally posted by Dumuzi:
no **** that's actually exactly how i see it, i think karma acts on the principle of will and people convincing themselves they deserve punishment will bring it to themselves

guilt and all that just piling on negativity and pulling it their way

though my thoughts towards karma extend a little deeper and go into things about power structure and weakness and so on and so forth (because i always take it there lol) and how it's convenient for the masses to believe in consequences where there are none, especially for those who recognize that's not true and act on it

so my stance on karma is pretty similar to my views on abrahamic faiths and the ways romans used christianity for power etc

all that being said, you're welcome, and that whole "death" thing that's not necessarily bad

a lot of people hate seeing cards like death or the tower come up in tarot readings, but i actually always really appreciate it when i see them because that means there's a new beginning out of the ashes coming too

from what i can tell you're an amazing person, and i don't doubt that you'll find plenty of other people who see it and i'm sure at least one of them will appreciate you the way you need them too

i think with relationships you can't really measure their success by whether or not they last long term in the same manner you thought they would, just whether or not they have meaning

twin flames and soul mates are just people who you're deeply connected to who make you feel strongly and who have deep meaning, and while that's not quite lifelong romance necessarily it's pretty damn special

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"no **** that's actually exactly how i see it, i think karma acts on the principle of will and people convincing themselves they deserve punishment will bring it to themselves." BINGO!!!!!!!!

"I think with relationships you can't really measure their success by whether or not they last long term in the same manner you thought they would, just whether or not they have meaning." I completely agree, this is my chill side which was in the driver's seat until I started to feel the effects of the eclipse and my dramatic side then become in charge, and everything felt very life or death with it activating my eros in leo in the 8th.

"from what i can tell you're an amazing person, and i don't doubt that you'll find plenty of other people who see it and i'm sure at least one of them will appreciate you the way you need them too."
Dumuzi thank you so much for your support and kindness, and you are right.

posted July 17, 2019 02:22 PM            

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Must have something to do with the Pluto/Saturn/SN conjunction in the sign?[/B]

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