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Topic: people who have cheated
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alludeu
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posted August 05, 2019 02:18 PM
  
has anyone been in a relationship with someone who's cheated with the placements of Venus and mars in an earth sign & sun and moon in an air house?IP: Logged |
hypatia238
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posted August 05, 2019 02:33 PM
very specific placements there! are you seeing someone and are trying to figure out if he would cheat or something?IP: Logged |
Aries23Degrees
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posted August 05, 2019 03:57 PM
I think they are looking for "cheating" aspects  IP: Logged |
kirki
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posted August 05, 2019 04:33 PM
It s very general but 12 house and neptune squares in synastry could be red flag...IP: Logged |
Dons2angelss
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posted August 05, 2019 05:10 PM
I know a taurus moon woman who cheated. Leo sun but I can't remember her venus or Mars. The next woman I know has a capricorn moon, pisces sun, Aquarius venus, libra Mars and has never been faithful to anyone. IP: Logged |
hypatia238
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posted August 05, 2019 07:37 PM
I don't think any placement on its own can tell you if someone is prone to cheating. Its more about the DC ruler and what the DC ruler is doing in your chart, that can generate red flags but the way you are going about it will not work at all.Like my partner has DC in Scorpio with Pluto in Libra ruling his DC falling in the 6th. He is a relationship guy and he has chart ruler Venus square Uranus yet I am the restless one who needs an unconventional arrangement and I have DC in Gemini with Mercury in Virgo Rx in the 9th house conjunct Draco Uranus. I think my DC ruler falling in the 9th combined with chart ruler Jupiter conjunct Uranus makes me restless and gives me a strong need to feel free and my mind is restless constantly going back and forth when it comes to my love life, not making up my mind evidenced by DC been ruled by mercury and mercury been in a mercury ruled sign, exacerbated by the retro. The need to disrupt my committed relationships by constantly trying to break up I think comes from Draco Uranus conjuncting my tropical DC ruler Mercury. IP: Logged |
teasel
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posted August 05, 2019 08:18 PM
Transits can change people, too, or just life can - because of other people. I've changed my outlook a bit just in the past couple of years. Uranus entered my 7th (Taurus) last year, but my attitude changed somewhat even before that. I still don't think I'd be into anything like poly, but I'm more open-minded when dealing with others. I also know one woman who was poly for years, who got married a few years ago, and as far as I know, is monogamous again. IP: Logged |
hypatia238
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posted August 05, 2019 08:26 PM
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Originally posted by teasel:
Transits can change people, too, or just life can - because of other people. I've changed my outlook a bit just in the past couple of years. Uranus entered my 7th (Taurus) last year, but my attitude changed somewhat even before that. I still don't think I'd be into anything like poly, but I'm more open-minded when dealing with others. I also know one woman who was poly for years, who got married a few years ago, and as far as I know, is monogamous again.
Wonderful points! progressed chart too can lead to changes like that.. IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted August 10, 2019 05:28 PM
Bump!IP: Logged |
ChildofVenus
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posted August 11, 2019 04:30 PM
People always say negative Venus/Uranus and Venus/Moon aspects.IP: Logged |
hypatia238
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posted August 11, 2019 05:16 PM
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Originally posted by ChildofVenus:
People always say negative Venus/Uranus and Venus/Moon aspects.
Not my experience, unless it rules the 7th one of the planets aspecting Uranus or Uranus is ruling the 7th. IP: Logged |
ChildofVenus
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posted August 11, 2019 11:27 PM
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Originally posted by hypatia238:
Not my experience, unless it rules the 7th one of the planets aspecting Uranus or Uranus is ruling the 7th.
Well, what about Aquarius DSC? IP: Logged |
hypatia238
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posted August 13, 2019 11:22 AM
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Originally posted by ChildofVenus:
Well, what about Aquarius DSC?
That means that Uranus is ruling the 7th. IP: Logged |
Hikaru29
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posted August 15, 2019 03:43 AM
What about Uranus ruling the 7th square Venus? My friend has that.IP: Logged |
ChildofVenus
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posted August 15, 2019 08:33 AM
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Originally posted by Hikaru29:
What about Uranus ruling the 7th square Venus? My friend has that.
That's what I have. IP: Logged |
MarsSaturnDelight
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posted August 16, 2019 05:15 AM
Ok, I will post this regardless of the impending judgement....I have just finished a 8 month affair With another woman. I have been in a relationship for 10 years, married for 6. Never, ever done this sort of thing before. Not looking for it again. And certainly can’t stand to look at myself because of the guilt. Aspects: No Venus/Neptune
No Venus/Uranus Mars Scorpio conjunct Saturn in the 10th
Venus square Pluto
Moon 8th house
Venus inconjunct moon
Aqua sun
Sag ascendant
Neptune/Jupiter conjunct Asc
Cap Venus
I was hurt by my wife and never recovered. Was not looking for an extra marital affair. But I fell in love.
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charlie
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posted August 16, 2019 07:05 AM
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Originally posted by MarsSaturnDelight:
Ok, I will post this regardless of the impending judgement....I have just finished a 8 month affair With another woman. I have been in a relationship for 10 years, married for 6. Never, ever done this sort of thing before. Not looking for it again. And certainly can’t stand to look at myself because of the guilt. Aspects: No Venus/Neptune
No Venus/Uranus Mars Scorpio conjunct Saturn in the 10th
Venus square Pluto
Moon 8th house
Venus inconjunct moon
Aqua sun
Sag ascendant
Neptune/Jupiter conjunct Asc
Cap Venus
I was hurt by my wife and never recovered. Was not looking for an extra marital affair. But I fell in love.
May I ask if this was a person you randomly met or someone you met on a frequent basis, and then fell in love?
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MarsSaturnDelight
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posted August 16, 2019 07:17 AM
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Originally posted by charlie:
May I ask if this was a person you randomly met or someone you met on a frequent basis, and then fell in love?
Yes, I’ve know her since 2015. Since April 2018 we started to build an emotional connection. Became physical in February 2019. IP: Logged |
Astra
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posted August 16, 2019 10:09 PM
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Originally posted by hypatia238:
Not my experience, unless it rules the 7th one of the planets aspecting Uranus or Uranus is ruling the 7th.
The ruler of my 7th is my moon in capricorn. My moon squares my venus. I've never cheated and I will never understand the point of cheating. My brother also has moon square venus and he is fiercely loyal to his wife. Even his bachelor party was very innocent (i.e. no strippers), IP: Logged |
Hikaru29
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posted August 18, 2019 05:35 AM
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Originally posted by MarsSaturnDelight:
Yes, I’ve know her since 2015.Since April 2018 we started to build an emotional connection. Became physical in February 2019.
Did you break up because of guilt? Did you love this woman? IP: Logged |
MarsSaturnDelight
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posted August 18, 2019 05:55 AM
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Originally posted by Hikaru29:
Did you break up because of guilt? Did you love this woman?
Yes the guilt was just too much. Additionally, I have three children with my wife and they are my world, regardless of the condition of my marriage. I just need to concentrate on what’s important. I was in love with my wife, so I’m trying to get that back. But yeah. I fell really hard for the other woman, months and months before things became physical. I couldn't ******* breath when she walk passed me. I still haven’t eaten and feel ******* sick because of this, I am burning so bad for her. The strength and will power I need to show myself, my wife and for the future of my family is huge. The road ahead is long. I truly wouldn’t wish this on anyone in the world.
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Hikaru29
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posted August 18, 2019 12:28 PM
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Originally posted by MarsSaturnDelight:
Yes the guilt was just too much. Additionally, I have three children with my wife and they are my world, regardless of the condition of my marriage. I just need to concentrate on what’s important. I was in love with my wife, so I’m trying to get that back.But yeah. I fell really hard for the other woman, months and months before things became physical. I couldn't ******* breath when she walk passed me. I still haven’t eaten and feel ******* sick because of this, I am burning so bad for her. The strength and will power I need to show myself, my wife and for the future of my family is huge. The road ahead is long. I truly wouldn’t wish this on anyone in the world.
I don't know what happened between you and your wife but since you have made your choice, I hope things will work out with her. Most people stay for the sake of their children but they will have a truly happy family life only when their parents have a loving relationship. My friend went through a turbulent marriage. She stayed for her kids for many years but things got worse. Then her kids grew older, started to understand what was going on and were affected... their grades started to drop and they became withdrawn. Cheating is not the answer, neither is staying for the sake of children if you don't mend things. You have to decide what's best for everyone. I wish you the best.  IP: Logged |
thatonegirllol
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posted September 24, 2019 08:08 PM
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Originally posted by MarsSaturnDelight:
Yes the guilt was just too much. Additionally, I have three children with my wife and they are my world, regardless of the condition of my marriage. I just need to concentrate on what’s important. I was in love with my wife, so I’m trying to get that back.But yeah. I fell really hard for the other woman, months and months before things became physical. I couldn't ******* breath when she walk passed me. I still haven’t eaten and feel ******* sick because of this, I am burning so bad for her. The strength and will power I need to show myself, my wife and for the future of my family is huge. The road ahead is long. I truly wouldn’t wish this on anyone in the world.
You got the synastry chart? IP: Logged |
GalacticCoreExplosion
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posted September 26, 2019 12:34 AM
Hmmm, gotta love these generalities... I have Aquarius Descendant and Aqua Venus in the 7th, square Scorpio Uranus. All relationships previous to my current core partner were monogamous and I never cheated or seriously considered it. With my current core partner, we were monogamous for 7 years before the open option happened. Never cheated on her in that time and never would have seriously considered doing so. The worst I did, was I had a female friend stay over while my partner was out of town traveling (she knew the friend would be over), and I ended up having a dream about the friend and I kissing. I ended up telling the friend about the dream (not really thinking too much or deeply about it). I was most assuredly not hitting on her or making a move by telling her this dream, but because we both had strong interests in dreams, guidance, spirituality, metaphysics, etc, and I thought talking about a dream would be ok or even possibly interesting to her. I figured I had it for a deeper reason most likely. She took it the wrong way though, and interpreted it as me hitting on her (so I found out much later). At this point, my partner and I were not open, and while I had some attraction to my friend, I wouldn't have done anything to hurt my partner, especially as I'm one who cannot lie about anything important or serious. (Far to Jupitarian for self's own good, and the unusual degree of sincerity and directness has gotten self into material trouble before). If anything, strongly Aquarian type people, if they are not sociopathic, are less likely to cheat on people because one, they are not typcially strongly sexed, they're fairly self controlled, they tend to have high ideals revolving around ethics and honesty, etc. More likely to get involved in open relationships, YES, but these are the very OPPOSITE of cheating at their core. Cheating is all about lies, secrecy, not caring enough if you hurt the other, allowing sex drive or attraction to control you, etc. There are definitely open people that are sex obsessed and lack self control. Basically they use it as an excuse to be sex addicts. But these usually are not the very Aquarian type folks. IP: Logged |
vansio
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posted September 26, 2019 04:02 PM
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Originally posted by GalacticCoreExplosion:
If anything, strongly Aquarian type people, if they are not sociopathic, are less likely to cheat on people because one, they are not typcially strongly sexed, they're fairly self controlled, they tend to have high ideals revolving around ethics and honesty, etc. More likely to get involved in open relationships, YES, but these are the very OPPOSITE of cheating at their core. Cheating is all about lies, secrecy, not caring enough if you hurt the other, allowing sex drive or attraction to control you, etc. There are definitely open people that are sex obsessed and lack self control, basically they use it as an excuse to be sex addicts but these usually are not the very Aquarian type folks.
Well said, agreed. IP: Logged |
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