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kani
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posted August 09, 2019 12:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for kani     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Plut0nian2:
I'm sorry for your NN in 2nd H.
North Node/Saturn in 2nd H by themselves are not good (those were the two placements I had in mind).
I suspect same goes for Neptune but I can't say for sure because of little experience.

I don't know if it will make you feel better but I have Jupiter and Venus in 2nd H and I'm poor lol. I've lost hope at this point.

You have hopes with that Mercury of yours since your North Node receives no major negative aspects. So I think it's possible to achieve it.


No need to be sorry, we all have a NN and something to strive for/learn in this life, don't we.

I'm quite a happy person - even when I was unemployed and totally confused because I didn't know what I wanted to to for a living - I was still happy most of the time. A bit more money would just give me the opportunity to indulge more - by travelling and eating good food. Both are activities that I love dearly

Would you say Venus in the 2nd house makes you focussed on material things a lot and Jupiter enhances that focus?

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posted August 09, 2019 01:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for kani     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
She is 32 this year. Turned 32 in May.

I think what concerns me the most are the upward/ downward swings. But I reckon they could get easier post 40?

She does have Sat/Ura conjunct opp Mars/Chiron.And I think that the above relationships create an inner tension that is further exacerbated by all 4 planets being in aspect to her Asc/Sun, Moon/Asc as well as Moon/Mercury midpoint.


What makes you think it will get better after 40 for her? Is she actively working on that issue?
I was quite volatile in my youth but that changed when I processed a lot of trauma like I said. I m in my 30's as well and quite balanced most of the time. But it did take quite a while, I m not gonna lie. And I have moon sq Pluto which is not an easy placement at all.
Does your sister like to spend time in nature? Many Taureans I know love that and it gives them peace.


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posted August 09, 2019 03:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Plut0nian2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by kani:
No need to be sorry, we all have a NN and something to strive for/learn in this life, don't we.

I'm quite a happy person - even when I was unemployed and totally confused because I didn't know what I wanted to to for a living - I was still happy most of the time. A bit more money would just give me the opportunity to indulge more - by travelling and eating good food. Both are activities that I love dearly

Would you say Venus in the 2nd house makes you focussed on material things a lot and Jupiter enhances that focus?


Yes you're right we all have NN somewhere but I wouldn't want North Node, Saturn or Neptune in my 2nd H. If NN has difficult aspects we don't reach our NN path in this lifetime imo. I believe Saturn works in a similar way when it comes to its house placements.

Money always made me feel indepedent and problems money can't solve are problems that have no solution (for ex. health issues) even in those cases money makes everything better/easier.

Ah.. Good food yeees and an easy life.. I don't care about luxury, I want money just to make my daily life easier by not having to cook/clean/stay in because I have no money to go to a nice restaurant with friends etc. And to help other people, so the more the better.

At least once a day I find myself thinking "if I had money I wouldn't have to go through this".

I've had people I loved and I lost them (deaths, dinstance etc) I tend to never feel safe because people I love will disappear at some point, nothing lasts enough for me (Uranus conjunct DSC, Saturn in 8th H, Pluto in 5th H square Venus and a bunch of water) so I don't want to go through that again and again. I'm already tired of it. I need lots of time alone so why go through that pain again and again? It's not worth it, not just the intense pain but also the time I need to recover is wayyyy too much. Money gives me indepedence, good-easy time and safety.

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posted August 10, 2019 02:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by kani:
What makes you think it will get better after 40 for her? Is she actively working on that issue?
I was quite volatile in my youth but that changed when I processed a lot of trauma like I said. I m in my 30's as well and quite balanced most of the time. But it did take quite a while, I m not gonna lie. And I have moon sq Pluto which is not an easy placement at all.
Does your sister like to spend time in nature? Many Taureans I know love that and it gives them peace.


Pure,naive,unadulterated"hope" I guess

For her to know there are issues, she would have to acknowledge them. That is not the case. And I guess that is also the characteristic of having a planet in house 1?

How did you feel your Moon/Pluto square inhibited you? I think she would enjoy nature, if she slowed down enough to smell the flowers and all that.

But I think the love of nature is also strongly linked to ones psyche. In that the momentum (love that word) to be in the presence of beauty and peace is an inside job first. One cultuvates peace and beauty within BEFORE seeing it without.

I LOVE nature and being in its presence. I find it soothing. But there are people whom-no sooner are they in the presence of it- start to complain about the bugs, being stung by a bee, the dirt, the itchy grass etc.

Her antidote in dealing with frustration is to sleep. That works too for her tbh. It works for me too . And for now that is the coping mechanism.

Mom worries about her. I tell her that there are inner resources that people naturally cultivate in time to help them deal with life.

We all don't respond in the same fashion. And that parents are the last to see their children holistically as independent adults anyways etc. That all will work out in time. And I really believe that they will.

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posted August 10, 2019 03:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for kani     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Plut0nian2:
Yes you're right we all have NN somewhere but I wouldn't want North Node, Saturn or Neptune in my 2nd H. If NN has difficult aspects we don't reach our NN path in this lifetime imo. I believe Saturn works in a similar way when it comes to its house placements.

Money always made me feel indepedent and problems money can't solve are problems that have no solution (for ex. health issues) even in those cases money makes everything better/easier.

Ah.. Good food yeees and an easy life.. I don't care about luxury, I want money just to make my daily life easier by not having to cook/clean/stay in because I have no money to go to a nice restaurant with friends etc. And to help other people, so the more the better.

At least once a day I find myself thinking "if I had money I wouldn't have to go through this".

I've had people I loved and I lost them (deaths, dinstance etc) I tend to never feel safe because people I love will disappear at some point, nothing lasts enough for me (Uranus conjunct DSC, Saturn in 8th H, Pluto in 5th H square Venus and a bunch of water) so I don't want to go through that again and again. I'm already tired of it. I need lots of time alone so why go through that pain again and again? It's not worth it, not just the intense pain but also the time I need to recover is wayyyy too much. Money gives me indepedence, good-easy time and safety.


Im not that radical about the North Node. I think if it has difficult aspects (mine doesn't) then there will be more challenges on the path to the NN fulfillment.
My bf's bro has Saturn in the 2nd and is well off. But both (my bf and his bro) are born into a family that is financially comfortable.

I do understand many sentiments you have about money. It does give independence and allows you to do stuff you wouldn't be able to do without it. I know that very well.

Where are you from?

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posted August 10, 2019 03:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for kani     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:

For her to know there are issues, she would have to acknowledge them. That is not the case. And I guess that is also the characteristic of having a planet in house 1?

How did you feel your Moon/Pluto square inhibited you?


I think planets in the 1st house make the person quite focussed on themselves. As in, taking things personally, being egocentric. I think these 2 are interlinked anyway.

The square between moon and Pluto made me quite mistrustful. I tend to think people have ulterior motives when they haven't. I seem very open and I am friendly but I m never baring my all to anyone really.
Also in the past it led to extreme emotions and extreme reactions to hurt. That is gone now though (thankfully).

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posted August 13, 2019 03:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for kani     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@Aries 23 degrees:

my bf is at mine right now and I have paid attention to certain things you said in your analysis. And yes he doesn't like it at all when someone challenges his opinion and he will fight that relentlessly. It's as if he can't accept that other people have a differing view. I forgot to add that in my answer to you last time. One thing that annoys me a lot is his absolutistic attitude. Very narrow-minded. He also does like to provoke and get an emotional reaction from me because he accused me to be "cold" in the past for some time. I don't think I'm cold at all

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