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MMarie
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posted September 02, 2019 04:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MMarie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Would planets conjunct the sun in the natal chart make you appear like that sign? For example Pluto conjunct sun: Scorpio, Jupiter conjunct sun: Sagittarius. What if there is more than one planet conjunct the sun? How much does it modify the sun qualities?

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posted September 02, 2019 04:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kannon McAfee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
For people who are perceiving astrology from a sign-based perspective, yes. The important thing to know is that planets are primary and are the principle that underlies the signs -- always.

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posted September 02, 2019 04:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dons2angelss     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think so. My boyfriend is a sagittarius but I saw pisces right off the bat. His sun is conjunct Neptune.

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posted September 02, 2019 04:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MMarie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you Kannon & don2angels!

@don2angels how tight is the conjunction? Also, now that you know him, does he still seem like a Pisces/ have Pisces qualities or was it only when you first met him?

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posted September 02, 2019 04:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries Eagle     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sun conjunct Jup here i def have Sag qualities but im not Sag

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posted September 02, 2019 05:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MMarie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aries Eagle:
Sun conjunct Jup here i def have Sag qualities but im not Sag

What is your sun sign? Do you feel as much a sag as your sun sign?

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posted September 02, 2019 05:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries Eagle     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by MMarie:
What is your sun sign? Do you feel as much a sag as your sun sign?

Aries, they all fire after all. Plus anything touches Jupiter gets expanded.

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posted September 02, 2019 08:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MMarie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aries Eagle:
Aries, they all fire after all. Plus anything touches Jupiter gets expanded.

That is true. And it’s probably a bit harder to differentiate the 2 since they are both fire and have similar qualities.

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posted September 03, 2019 05:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think it adds the sign archetype energy to the native.

Mars planet is Aries/Scorpio archetype energy.
Pluto planet is Scorpio archehtype energy.
Neptune planet is Pisces archetype energy.
Jupiter planet is Sag/Pisc archetype energy.
Saturn planet is Cap/Aqua archetype energy.
Uranus planet is Aqua archetype energy.
Venus planet is Libra/Taurus archetype energy.
Sun planet is Leo archytype energy.
Mercury planet is Virgo/Gem archetype energy.

I find it interesting that people considering the conj of Sun to Mercury to be Mercury "influencing" the Sun.

Should it not be in actuality that its the Sun influencing Mercury? The slower moving planet(Sun) influencing the faster one(Mercury)?

Moon planet arguably would be the most "susceptible" to influence-since it is by far the fastest planet.

So dual aspects to sun i.e in my case Jupiter conj Sun and Neptune conj Sun. In both the Pisces archetype and Sag archetype exist side by side. My Sun is in Sag.

I think this extends to square and opposition too. Not sure of the sextile/trine or inconjunct though. Perhaps with the latter they are less "obvious"?

I for instance also have Pluto/Sun sextile.Should I read the Scorpio archetype too?

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posted September 03, 2019 08:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MMarie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
I think it adds the sign archetype energy to the native.

Mars planet is Aries/Scorpio archetype energy.
Pluto planet is Scorpio archehtype energy.
Neptune planet is Pisces archetype energy.
Jupiter planet is Sag/Pisc archetype energy.
Saturn planet is Cap/Aqua archetype energy.
Uranus planet is Aqua archetype energy.
Venus planet is Libra/Taurus archetype energy.
Sun planet is Leo archytype energy.
Mercury planet is Virgo/Gem archetype energy.

I find it interesting that people considering the conj of Sun to Mercury to be Mercury "influencing" the Sun.

Should it not be in actuality that its the Sun influencing Mercury? The slower moving planet(Sun) influencing the faster one(Mercury)?

Moon planet arguably would be the most "susceptible" to influence-since it is by far the fastest planet.

So dual aspects to sun i.e in my case Jupiter conj Sun and Neptune conj Sun. In both the Pisces archetype and Sag archetype exist side by side. My Sun is in Sag.

I think this extends to square and opposition too. Not sure of the sextile/trine or inconjunct though. Perhaps with the latter they are less "obvious"?

I for instance also have Pluto/Sun sextile.Should I read the Scorpio archetype too?


Thanks Aries for this info!

So you would think a person with sun conjunct mercury is not like a Gemini or Virgo sun sign more being a Leo mercury? Because the sun is influencing mercury more than mercury influencing the sun?

Since you have Neptune conjunct sun, do you relate or feel like a Pisces? If so, equally to being a Sagittarius or less? Do others mistake you for a Pisces?

Sorry for a lot of questions lol. Just trying to see how others feel/perceive the conjunctions.

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posted September 03, 2019 12:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by MMarie:
Thanks Aries for this info!

So you would think a person with sun conjunct mercury is not like a Gemini or Virgo sun sign more being a Leo mercury? Because the sun is influencing mercury more than mercury influencing the sun?

Since you have Neptune conjunct sun, do you relate or feel like a Pisces? If so, equally to being a Sagittarius or less? Do others mistake you for a Pisces?

Sorry for a lot of questions lol. Just trying to see how others feel/perceive the conjunctions.


I think that Mercury is a neutral celebral energy-impersonal. But when in aspect to a planet, it takes on the nature of that planet.

The Sun is ego, personified self & personal attachment. Mercury is no longer objective when in aspect to the Sun. Nor when in aspect to Pluto,Mars and Jup.

This affinity is true for Sun in Gem/Vir both. Neither are "humble" nor objective inherently or by default through Mercury's involvement in their personal expressions. But they strive to balance the solar energy with Merc objectivity.

Neptune influencing my Sun is also important. I do relate to Pisces archetype energy. As I speak to you, I hve recurring feet issues(a Pisces area).

But I feel the energy of Sag is more powerful-due to Jup being in its own natural placement(Jup in Sag) and also rules Neptune( Sag).

I am never mistaken for a Pisces tbh.I come across too opinionated for people so I guess the fire Sun sign nature of Sag does filter through.

Tbh I would also look at aspects to Moon and sign therein. I find the Moon sign and aspects very dynamic.
So perhaps its the Mars/Moon that adds the fire? Can't be sure.


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posted September 03, 2019 12:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MMarie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
I think that Mercury is a neutral celebral energy-impersonal. But when in aspect to a planet, it takes on the nature of that planet.

The Sun is ego, personified self & personal attachment. Mercury is no longer objective when in aspect to the Sun. Nor when in aspect to Pluto,Mars and Jup.

This affinity is true for Sun in Gem/Vir both. Neither are "humble" nor objective inherently or by default through Mercury's involvement in their personal expressions. But they strive to balance the solar energy with Merc objectivity.

Neptune influencing my Sun is also important. I do relate to Pisces archetype energy. As I speak to you, I hve recurring feet issues(a Pisces area).

But I feel the energy of Sag is more powerful-due to Jup being in its own natural placement(Jup in Sag) and also rules Neptune( Sag).

I am never mistaken for a Pisces tbh.I come across too opinionated for people so I guess the fire Sun sign nature of Sag does filter through.

Tbh I would also look at aspects to Moon and sign therein. I find the Moon sign and aspects very dynamic.
So perhaps its the Mars/Moon that adds the fire? Can't be sure.


Thanks Aries! Makes sense with your Sun/Jupiter/Neptune in Sagittarius and having more weight. I have actually asked you this before about my sun conjunct moon - sun conjunct moon by 2 degrees in Leo (1st house) square Mars in Taurus (10th house). This would make my moon have Mars/Aries qualities with the square to Mars and also being in the first house.

I guess the question with my own conjunction would be how much “moon” or cancer qualities do I have. Thinking the sun conjunct moon and mars square would almost overshadow the moon qualities in a way because they are masculine planets. But whenever I have done planet dominance charts or the color chart on Astro, moon is always pretty dominant (along with sun and mars). But more than I’d think. I’m wondering if people perceive me as cancer like. It’s weird because I’ve heard before “you don’t seem like a Leo” when I have sun/ASC/moon/Venus in Leo.

I am also wondering if this helps with compatibility. Would a Leo sun conjunct moon be more compatible with a Virgo sun conjunct Uranus than a typical Leo and Virgo? Because the moon (cancer) is more compatible with Virgo and Uranus (Aqua) is more compatible with Leo.

Sorry so many questions and I have asked similar things before just trying to get a bit more clarity.

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posted September 03, 2019 04:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dons2angelss     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by MMarie:
Thank you Kannon & don2angels!

@don2angels how tight is the conjunction? Also, now that you know him, does he still seem like a Pisces/ have Pisces qualities or was it only when you first met him?


It's less than 2 degrees and yes, he definitely has a lot of pisces qualities. He's off in dreamland and has struggled a lot with heroin addiction. Neptune is also conjunct his Mercury by 7 and they're all in his 5H. When we first met I told him he had a lot of pisces in him but actually he has nothing in his 12H or in Pisces. It's all that Neptune on his sun. He's always been painfully shy, especially as a child and he finds it hard to assert himself even with an Aries moon in the 8H.

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posted September 03, 2019 04:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dons2angelss     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And I'll add that no one ever guesses that I'm a taurus even though my sun is loosely conjunct venus. They always guess scorpio, my moon is exactly conjunct Pluto.

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posted September 04, 2019 06:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by MMarie:
Thanks Aries! Makes sense with your Sun/Jupiter/Neptune in Sagittarius and having more weight. I have actually asked you this before about my sun conjunct moon - sun conjunct moon by 2 degrees in Leo (1st house) square Mars in Taurus (10th house). This would make my moon have Mars/Aries qualities with the square to Mars and also being in the first house.

I guess the question with my own conjunction would be how much “moon” or cancer qualities do I have. Thinking the sun conjunct moon and mars square would almost overshadow the moon qualities in a way because they are masculine planets. But whenever I have done planet dominance charts or the color chart on Astro, moon is always pretty dominant (along with sun and mars). But more than I’d think. I’m wondering if people perceive me as cancer like. It’s weird because I’ve heard before “you don’t seem like a Leo” when I have sun/ASC/moon/Venus in Leo.

I am also wondering if this helps with compatibility. Would a Leo sun conjunct moon be more compatible with a Virgo sun conjunct Uranus than a typical Leo and Virgo? Because the moon (cancer) is more compatible with Virgo and Uranus (Aqua) is more compatible with Leo.

Sorry so many questions and I have asked similar things before just trying to get a bit more clarity.


I don't mind these questions at all. Its great for discussion and more clarity. Even for me.

Compatibility for me is more about mirroring placements. And though I personally prefer Sun in masculine for my Sun(save for Taurus and Virgo due to the neutral nature of both), others are indifferent.

So I would for instance look for 6th house placements for Virgo. Or else Mercury in 1st etc.

For Sun/Uranus, look to the 11th, Uranus in 5th, Venus in Aqua or Venus-Uranus etc.

Your Mars in aspect with both Sun/Moon would give both Sun/Moon the Aries archetype energy(and to a certain extent Scorpio too).

When the Moon is in the first, the emotional nature is very much "out there".It takes on an immediate and naive approach to emotional issues i.e it approaches them "head on ".

Books often speak of a "martial" quality of planets as a result of them being in aspect to Mars or associated 1st house.But this often suggests that the nature is "violent" or "unruly". Not so. The Mars nature is childlike, open and often painfully naive.

Sun in the 1st also makes one quite an open personality The 1st house Sun individual sees themselves as moral, upright and above board. Very "heart on sleeve" people for sure. What they feel is out there for the world to know.

I think you (like me)may feel that you are sensitive due to both planet interactions in the 1st house. As I have Moon/Mars square myself. It does make the nature a lot more expressive because of the tendency to "feel" so much. All at once.

Sometimes it can feel like your emotional nature is on "auto pilot". The reactions are instinctive-whether this be anger or happiness.There is no "filter"-unless Saturn/Pluto or Mercury is also there or aspects the planets there.


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posted September 04, 2019 10:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MMarie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you Aries for all the info! Makes sense with the compatibility and mirroring aspects. So if I’m getting this right, because I have moon/mars, moon in the first, & Pluto in the 4th I would be compatible with Aries & Scorpio moons?

Also one more question 😄...this might be far fetch but would someone with moon square Mars be compatible with someone having moon square Venus? Since Venus is mars counterpart? Or would these aspects not relate to one another?

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posted September 04, 2019 10:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MMarie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And you are right about the sensitivity and wearing your heart on sleeve thing. I’m very much that way. I’ve noticed exercise help me release emotions too...Moon - Mars.

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posted September 05, 2019 01:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Thank you Aries for all the info! Makes sense with the compatibility and mirroring aspects. So if I’m getting this right, because I have moon/mars, moon in the first, & Pluto in the 4th I would be compatible with Aries & Scorpio moons?

Also one more question 😄...this might be far fetch but would someone with moon square Mars be compatible with someone having moon square Venus? Since Venus is mars counterpart? Or would these aspects not relate to one another?


To the first question:The answer is that there's rapport
Moon in Aries,Moon-Mars square,Moon in 1st, Mars in Cancer or Moon in aspec to Asc etc. all come to understand that they tend to live(Moon) with fire(Mars) or very close to strife.

This means that on an unconscious level, they are comfortable(Moon) living with someone that they have strong feelings for(Mars),conditions(Moon) that are very testing(Mars) or tied to survival needs(Mars).

So for a Moon/Mars and Moon in 1st, the Moon in Aries is a typical "mirroring" energy. The house will be very noisy and you will both bring out the best(competitive) side of each other as well as the worst(formidable).

If there is no one between you two to play "referee", things will escalate to gi-normous levels. Epic "throw dishes at each other" levels.And even mugshots Heather Locklear anyone(Moon in Aries)?

So Pluto in 4th, Moon in Scorpio,Pluto-Moon,Scorpio Ic or Pluto in major aspect to Ic(including declinations) all have strong views. They all typically lived (much like Aries Moon)with someone/conditions that were strenuous or emotionally very trying.

Moon/Venus square compatible to Moon/Mars? Not the same energy. Venus is NOT Mars' counterpart because the energy goals differ vastly.

Venus rules Taurus and Libra and exalted in Pisces
Jupiter rules Sag and Pisces and exalted in Cancer
Moon rules Cancer and exalted in Taurus
Neptune rules Pisces.

These are the "mates" to Venus. Mars is not a mate but the polar opposite energy.The two are grouped together due to their discordant natures which creates friction.

This friction creates both desire as well as arguments. Pain as well as love or attraction as well as separation. The mix of the ying/yang principle is what life is all about really; the joy begets pain like giving birth is painful(Mars)but the end result is a "bundle of joy"(Ven)

So Moon-Venus square is when you are challenged to follow your own path and face being a social outcast or possible physical threat as a result of your independent initiatives and nuances.

So for instance, you may date someone who you feel totally comfortable with(Moon). But your parents or social circle disagree to them being a wise choice( square Venus).

Or perhaps you follow a business venture or initiative (Moon) that threatens your livelihood(Venus) i.e going back to school which puts a strain on your family. Or marrying someone within a higher/lower social status

Prince Harry has Moon inconjunct Venus.And he certainly married someone that people didn't consider "good enough". Granted its not a square. But I find using him as an example is very appropriate.

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posted September 05, 2019 08:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MMarie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you again Aries for all of your help! It’s interesting about the Scorpio moons because I attract them although it squaring my Leo moon but this helps explain why. Also because Scorpio moons would fall in my 4th house.

And good to know about moon square Venus as well. I’ve read this is a “player” aspect but don’t think this has to be the case. interesting to learn about how else it can manifest.

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posted September 05, 2019 09:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SoulOfABird     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think it only counts if it’s an outer planet. I have Mercury and Venus conjuncting my Sun and I don’t think I come off like either one of those planets rulers. But the guy Im interested in has Sun-Saturn conjunction and I did initially get Capricorn vibes from him. That was only initially though.

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posted September 05, 2019 09:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SoulOfABird     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think it only counts if it’s an outer planet. I have Mercury and Venus conjuncting my Sun and I don’t think I come off like either one of those planets rulers. But the guy Im interested in has Sun-Saturn conjunction and I did initially get Capricorn vibes from him. That was only initially though.

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I have the Sun conjunct Chiron and the North Node. I have no idea what this would make me seem like. Any idea?

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posted September 06, 2019 05:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dons2angelss     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I have the Sun conjunct Chiron and the North Node. I have no idea what this would make me seem like. Any idea?

I've read that sun/chiron can have a bad relationship with the father figure in their lives. Or at least make the father a source of unhappiness. My chiron sits in between my sun and nn/ascendant and my father was an amazing parent but, he was also an addict and it killed him when I was 16. It did set me on my own path since then though.

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posted September 06, 2019 07:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I have the Sun conjunct Chiron and the North Node. I have no idea what this would make me seem like. Any idea?

The Sun is the expression of self,the holistic personality So Chiron-Sun aspects suggest those who face impediments to the expression of their personality.

It could be that when they were young,the very expression of who they are was frowned upon or not deemed "appropriate". The father was critical and fault-finding. Always finding ways to focus on what the child "lacked".

The Sun is also representative of the Father.So perhaps the Dad was inhibited & couldn't fully express himself or was not present? This is the rejection of the child by default; in that they (father)were unable to provide counsel and encouragement to the child.

In the first instance, the child can believe themselves "missing" an essential ingredient & therefore "damaged" or "faulty".

This can create shyness, an inferority complex, being so uncomfortable in one's own skin as to be self-conscious, an identity crisis or the search for a person to whom one can look "up" to etc. Typically the type to have "father" archetype heros or largely male role models.

In the 2nd instance, the native learns to navigate life through their own devices.

So there is likely to be self-reliance, the inability to trust authority figures,a troubled relationship with males or complete disregard of instructional counsel(even from well wishers) and some sensitivity to criticism.

The 2nd instance can at worst create an arrogant personality (atleast on the outside), deeply insecure and unwilling to let others get too close.

There is continuous preservation of a "strong" front that betrays the lonesomeness of someone who feels unable to open up or reserves a lot of their affections from being shown to others.

I have Sun-inconjunct-Chiron. I am the 2nd. In many ways I have rejected authority figures in my life(this especially male ones).

I also feel Sun-Chiron males may reject children-either through abandonment or choosing not to have any. Here(like Mars-Chiron) they forfeit or rebel the male societal "role" of fathering kids.

Chiron-Sun in both women and men can raise issues and discomfort with the patriarchal system in its entirety.

There is resistance with them to take on leadership roles or responsibility that will "impose" them on others etc. They would rather work "with" others than bark orders.

They can make the type of managers who are open-ended and have a holistic approach to leading their team i.e "open door policy" etc.

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posted September 07, 2019 08:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for nomad-monad     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Sun (02) conj Jupiter (00) in Pisces.
And Mars (11) conj Saturn (09) in Sagittarius.

Also Venus (10) + Mercury (18) in Pisces, and Uranus (22) in Sag. Mars+Saturn on either side of 7th cusp sag 09 square Venus.

I think previously I oscillated heavily between them in lower vibration which gave a tangible alternation between pis-sag oscillation. As spiritual maturity have been reached and I am vibrating to a higher degree, the vibration now appear as a complete blend/unity.

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