posted September 02, 2019 07:38 PM            

quote:

---

Originally posted by Sinder:
Is it really that people who have this placement think low of themselves? Like they are not attractive and always go for people who are below them in lookwise?

Insecure?

---

posted September 05, 2019 07:15 AM            

quote:

---

Originally posted by ScorpieScorp:
LOL, no. I think I'm quite attractive...but...in thinking of my exes, they were not more attractive than me..I think Saturn in H1 can make you very self critical..which I am..

---

I agree.

Saturn rules the 10th and when in 1st house, the native tends to approach life from an austere or serious perspective. When young they are often teased to be "little adults"(just like Sun in Cap)

Saturn is also the Chaldean ruler of the 8th and that is also perhaps why Saturn in 1st house can suggest someone who suffers ill health? Or the body takes time to recover.

I know for instance that transits to the first house heighten health concerns. There is also weight loss, increased responsibility and lacklustre energy.

posted September 05, 2019 07:58 AM            

Yeah I never quite got that, going for people less attractive than them because of insecurity, me on the otherhand...Hahhhh...

posted October 23, 2019 09:02 PM            

Or are they closer to mid vibratory (average) all in all?

The latter types do tend to have lower self esteem and can be more self critical than average. And since they actually have conscience, they can be hard on themselves.

The types in the first group can be arrogant, egotistical and confident as all bleep. Not uncommon to range from narcissistic to psychopathic. (However low/soft or high/hard on either spectrum).

I remember reading an Edgar Cayce Life Reading for someone who had entered in from the dimension/level that corresponds to Saturn, and was primarily Saturnian. In this life, they were a big wig in the military.

Cayce's guidance spoke of their unusual personality magnetism, but unusually lambasted them for their lack of ethics and concern for others (the guidance that came through was rarely so bluntly harsh and critical).

Ever read about psychopathic personalities? Many researchers say similar. They can be charming and magnetic as bleep. Sometimes almost like supernaturally so. I've noticed correlations with very, very strong Saturn's PLANETARY WISE (not Capricorn or Aquarius) in these charts.

My theory is, is that they are so strongly resonating in the slow vibratory physical energies and in the 1st Center, that they resonate people strongly at those levels in their bodies and the bodies of people respond to them strongly. Since many people are fairly focused in their first 3 centers as opposed to the 4th, 5th, 6th, and/or 7th Centers, there is a strong energetic resonance and affect on them.

It's also not uncommon for psychopathic personalities to have higher than average testosterone levels, which seems to support the above hypothesis.

Or in an aura sense, it's like coming into a field of overwhelming and dominant dark red energy. I've experienced this a couple of times. Back when my partner was in college, there was a young woman who I ran into a couple of times at her dorm, and when I looked in her eyes, I felt like a deer in a headlight. Her eyes felt almost Soulless, but her energy was strong/intense (and VERY overwhelmingly dark red). My body had a definite reaction to her, but the rest of me was repelled. I later found out that she prostituted herself (I'm not directly correlating prostitution with dominant Saturn nor psychopathy by any means. There are plenty of women that prostitute that have plenty of conscience and empathy).

posted October 24, 2019 05:36 AM            

quote:

---

Originally posted by GalacticCoreExplosion:
It depends--have to look at the whole chart. Is the person with Saturn in the 1st a true and full Saturnian with a lack of emphasis on the mid to faster vibratory symbols like Venus, Neptune, Jupiter, and/or Sun?

Or are they closer to mid vibratory (average) all in all?

The latter types do tend to have lower self esteem and can be more self critical than average. And since they actually have conscience, they can be hard on themselves.

The types in the first group can be arrogant, egotistical and confident as all bleep. Not uncommon to range from narcissistic to psychopathic. (However low/soft or high/hard on either spectrum).

I remember reading an Edgar Cayce Life Reading for someone who had entered in from the dimension/level that corresponds to Saturn, and was primarily Saturnian. In this life, they were a big wig in the military.

Cayce's guidance spoke of their unusual personality magnetism, but unusually lambasted them for their lack of ethics and concern for others (the guidance that came through was rarely so bluntly harsh and critical).

Ever read about psychopathic personalities? Many researchers say similar. They can be charming and magnetic as bleep. Sometimes almost like supernaturally so. I've noticed correlations with very, very strong Saturn's PLANETARY WISE (not Capricorn or Aquarius) in these charts.

My theory is, is that they are so strongly resonating in the slow vibratory physical energies and in the 1st Center, that they resonate people strongly at those levels in their bodies and the bodies of people respond to them strongly. Since many people are fairly focused in their first 3 centers as opposed to the 4th, 5th, 6th, and/or 7th Centers, there is a strong energetic resonance and affect on them.

It's also not uncommon for psychopathic personalities to have higher than average testosterone levels, which seems to support the above hypothesis.

Or in an aura sense, it's like coming into a field of overwhelming and dominant dark red energy. I've experienced this a couple of times. Back when my partner was in college, there was a young woman who I ran into a couple of times at her dorm, and when I looked in her eyes, I felt like a deer in a headlight. Her eyes felt almost Soulless, but her energy was strong/intense (and VERY overwhelmingly dark red). My body had a definite reaction to her, but the rest of me was repelled. I later found out that she prostituted herself (I'm not directly correlating prostitution with dominant Saturn nor psychopathy by any means. There are plenty of women that prostitute that have plenty of conscience and empathy).

Unfortunately, there had to be some symbol in astrology that represents extreme selfishness and severe lack of attunement to Love, and according to the Edgar Cayce readings and my own experience, Saturn is that symbol par excellence--unless balanced out by simultaneously highlighted mid to faster vibratory symbols--especially Venus, Neptune, Jupiter, and Sun.

---

Are you really trying to correlate Saturn in the 1st with psychopathy? Because that's not possible...no matter how much Edgar Cayce you've studied. It's been proven time and time again that charts with tough aspects can and do belong to decent and fine people and otherwise lovely charts can belong to psychopaths. There is absolutely zero correlation.

posted October 24, 2019 10:47 AM            

The entire chart needs to be taken as a whole, but one of the patterns I've noticed is a very strong Saturn with the mid to faster vibratory Planets (especially Venus, Neptune, Jupiter, and Sun) beings passive/weak. (But often Pluto, Mars, and/or Mercury are simultaneously moderately to very strong as well).

I also very much believe in what Cayce talked about as far as the potential, important difference between the energetic/spiritual birth time and the physical birth times, and how this can potentially change the chart.

Hence, not everyone, even those with a physically accurate birth time, has an accurate chart.

I believe this for various reasons besides my 20+ years looking at charts and trust in this work. One is that my Mom was unusually psychic and well before I heard any of this stuff from Cayce, she told me that it was a little while after I was born that she saw a bright Light (i.e. Soul me) enter into the infant's body.

A somewhat later chart fits better holistically as well.

And then, YES, there is the wild card factor of freewill. Souls with an overall mid to faster vibratory chart can retrogress from that because of freewill. Then, Souls with a slower vibratory chart can grow away from that because of freewill.

This makes it a lot more relative and complex than any simple formula that data analysis, science minded types would prefer. But there ARE certainly patterns to be seen when the charts are more accurate than not, and one of the most consistent patterns I have seen is a very strong Planetary Saturn (NOT Capricorn or Aquarius) and lack of focus on/strength of the more heart and Soul oriented symbols (again, especially Venus, Neptune, Jupiter, and Sun). When these are simultaneously present with a very strong Saturn, it does much to offset such extremely selfish and lacking in empathy traits.

I grew up with a psychopathic step father, and learned to develop "psycho dar" because of him, and read a lot of books and articles about the subject, as well as approached it from an astrological angle. That combined with a very intuitive and expanded mind (for one example highlighted Cap Mercury trine Virgo Jupiter with less than a degree of separation) allows me to see deeper and more holistically into the issue.

I've learned that there is such as thing as "dark Souls" that come in psychopathic, which is why Hare reports cases of even 4 year olds which have all the symptoms of psychopathy, but just that he can't legally call them a psychopath. These small kids also in a psychologically healthy home and with psychologically healthy siblings. Even a case of identical twins where one is and one isn't a psychopath. Very much speaks to a deeper Soul and karmic issue much of the time.

I frankly don't care if you believe or agree with me or not.

As to Cayce, I recommend to anyone if they want both their minds and hearts blown, to read The biography about him and his work, Sidney Kirkpatrick's "Edgar Cayce: An American Prophet" and get back to me. The dude was the real thing times 100. Literally the most verified, broad, and vast psychic source on the Earth.

Kirkpatrick himself went into his research and investigation of Cayce as not only a complete skeptic of Cayce, but ALL things psychic and "spiritual". During said research and investigation, he had a major belief system crash, and eventually became deeply involved in service work with the A.R.E. for many years.

I happen to know him personally (and shared quite an interesting, verified psychic experience with him), and he verified for me that his public statements about how he got into the whole thing very much was the case.
Before Kirkpatrick tackled investigating Cayce, he was an award winning film documentarist and biographical/true crime author, and he put his considerable reputation on the line when he decided to write a book about Cayce. But that's how much he believed in the work.

And yes, totally agree with you, people either choose good, evil, or the like. In many ways, a chart is nothing more than a symbolic reflection of how an individual has used their freewill in the past. Because it represents their past, and innate character is destiny, this is why charts are so probable for so many people, and why few people use their freewill to great extents to dramatically change their charts/probable patterns. Because humans are creatures of habit and inertia much of the time. But certainly not all the time.

posted October 27, 2019 06:31 AM            

Your theory would have more weight if you weren't so concentrated on being defensive and insulting me. Like who cares what you think about my username? I don't remember commenting on yours during my direct, to the point statements to you. Try some objectivity. Also take a deep breath and step back, dude. This is a public forum where people are going to disagree with you and question your statements. Maybe start a blog if you don't want immediate feedback on your statements here.

posted October 27, 2019 10:45 AM            

quote:

---

Originally posted by StubbornVirgo:
An argument would imply that emotions are involved. It's always a debate, with me.

Your theory would have more weight if you weren't so concentrated on being defensive and insulting me. Like who cares what you think about my username? I don't remember commenting on yours during my direct, to the point statements to you. Try some objectivity. Also take a deep breath and step back, dude. This is a public forum where people are going to disagree with you and question your statements. Maybe start a blog if you don't want immediate feedback on your statements here.

TBH, your viewpoint of psychopathy and Saturn is apparently deeply biased and given that you're unwilling to see it from any other point of your own, it's obvious that your posts on here are not meant to be replied to but instead worshipped.

---

Just the facts and nothing but the facts mam. About 98% of my earlier longish reply was all about explaining, holistic logic, experience, data, and nothing to do with you. A recap:

quote:

---

Not in a one to one, direct correlation and simplified way by any means.
The entire chart needs to be taken as a whole, but one of the patterns I've noticed is a very strong Saturn with the mid to faster vibratory Planets (especially Venus, Neptune, Jupiter, and Sun) beings passive/weak. (But often Pluto, Mars, and/or Mercury are simultaneously moderately to very strong as well).

I also very much believe in what Cayce talked about as far as the potential, important difference between the energetic/spiritual birth time and the physical birth times, and how this can potentially change the chart.

Hence, not everyone, even those with a physically accurate birth time, has an accurate chart.

I believe this for various reasons besides my 20+ years looking at charts and trust in this work. One is that my Mom was unusually psychic and well before I heard any of this stuff from Cayce, she told me that it was a little while after I was born that she saw a bright Light (i.e. Soul me) enter into the infant's body.

A somewhat later chart fits better holistically as well.

And then, YES, there is the wild card factor of freewill. Souls with an overall mid to faster vibratory chart can retrogress from that because of freewill. Then, Souls with a slower vibratory chart can grow away from that because of freewill.

This makes it a lot more relative and complex than any simple formula that data analysis, science minded types would prefer. But there ARE certainly patterns to be seen when the charts are more accurate than not, and one of the most consistent patterns I have seen is a very strong Planetary Saturn (NOT Capricorn or Aquarius) and lack of focus on/strength of the more heart and Soul oriented symbols (again, especially Venus, Neptune, Jupiter, and Sun). When these are simultaneously present with a very strong Saturn, it does much to offset such extremely selfish and lacking in empathy traits.

I grew up with a psychopathic step father, and learned to develop "psycho dar" because of him, and read a lot of books and articles about the subject, as well as approached it from an astrological angle. That combined with a very intuitive and expanded mind (for one example highlighted Cap Mercury trine Virgo Jupiter with less than a degree of separation) allows me to see deeper and more holistically into the issue.

I've learned that there is such as thing as "dark Souls" that come in psychopathic, which is why Hare reports cases of even 4 year olds which have all the symptoms of psychopathy, but just that he can't legally call them a psychopath. These small kids also in a psychologically healthy home and with psychologically healthy siblings. Even a case of identical twins where one is and one isn't a psychopath. Very much speaks to a deeper Soul and karmic issue much of the time.

As to Cayce, I recommend to anyone if they want both their minds and hearts blown, to read The biography about him and his work, Sidney Kirkpatrick's "Edgar Cayce: An American Prophet" and get back to me. The dude was the real thing times 100. Literally the most verified, broad, and vast psychic source on the Earth.

Kirkpatrick himself went into his research and investigation of Cayce as not only a complete skeptic of Cayce, but ALL things psychic and "spiritual". During said research and investigation, he had a major belief system crash, and eventually became deeply involved in service work with the A.R.E. for many years.

I happen to know him personally (and shared quite an interesting, verified psychic experience with him), and he verified for me that his public statements about how he got into the whole thing very much was the case.
Before Kirkpatrick tackled investigating Cayce, he was an award winning film documentarist and biographical/true crime author, and he put his considerable reputation on the line when he decided to write a book about Cayce. But that's how much he believed in the work.

And yes, totally agree with you, people either choose good, evil, or the like. In many ways, a chart is nothing more than a symbolic reflection of how an individual has used their freewill in the past. Because it represents their past, and innate character is destiny, this is why charts are so probable for so many people, and why few people use their freewill to great extents to dramatically change their charts/probable patterns. Because humans are creatures of habit and inertia much of the time. But certainly not all the time.

---

The below two very short statements are the only ones that had anything to do with you, and the only one that was ¨insulting¨ was literally at the very end of my reply.

quote:

---

I frankly don't care if you believe or agree with me or not.

---

quote:

---

Feel free to continue the debate/argument, but typically when people label themselves as "stubborn", I am pragmatic enough to realize that typically their minds aren't very open and it would be a waste of time engaging more deeply. (oh that wry and dry Cap Sun and Merc. humor...).

---

The above btw, was less meant as an insult, but more of a wry observation and teaching moment. When a person literally labels themselves ¨stubborn¨, what kind of impression do you think it might give to others? The impression of, ¨hey, this person is open minded and willing to consider viewpoints different than their own?¨ or, ¨This person is set in their ways i.e. the very definition of ´stubborn´, and debate with them would probably be kind of pointless¨?

I was just pointing out that glaring social message.

But in return, rather than address anything I said about the subject at hand, you´re keeping it COMPLETELY about me, and now demonizing me in an extreme manner. I mean clearly, I´m only here to be worshiped etc, etc. I mean, who really is being truly insulting and attacking here? This is what I call ¨Fox News style ´debate´¨

But, I should follow my own advice to self earlier. Best to you on your path.

posted October 27, 2019 11:40 AM            

------------------
Want to Read Simple, Fun,Sexy Articles on Astrology? Check Me Out, DUDE.

posted October 28, 2019 06:18 AM            

quote:

---

Originally posted by GalacticCoreExplosion:
The above btw, was less meant as an insult, but more of a wry observation and teaching moment. When a person literally labels themselves ¨stubborn¨, what kind of impression do you think it might give to others? The impression of, ¨hey, this person is open minded and willing to consider viewpoints different than their own?¨ or, ¨This person is set in their ways i.e. the very definition of ´stubborn´, and debate with them would probably be kind of pointless¨?

I was just pointing out that glaring social message.

But in return, rather than address anything I said about the subject at hand, you´re keeping it COMPLETELY about me, and now demonizing me in an extreme manner. I mean clearly, I´m only here to be worshiped etc, etc. I mean, who really is being truly insulting and attacking here? This is what I call ¨Fox News style ´debate´¨

But, I should follow my own advice to self earlier. Best to you on your path.

---

Bro, you one hundred percent wrote off anything I had to say based on a username I chose 4 years ago on a whim. Maybe you've never heard of "tongue in cheek"? Yes I'm stubborn but I'm not close minded...close minded would be sticking to your flawed beliefs about a placement based on deep personal bias (which you've already admitted to having).

Demonizing? Have I called into question your individual character? Please point out where I did so. I'm calling you out on a post, objectively, and people do that in a public forum.

Again, your posts are not meant to be replied to, evidenced by your continued conclusions about a username. I mean, you're trying to correlate an internet username with my own personal character...but yet I'm demonizing you? Makes a whole lot of sense.

posted October 28, 2019 01:03 PM            

quote:

---

Originally posted by GalacticCoreExplosion:
Not in a one to one, direct correlation and simplified way by any means.

The entire chart needs to be taken as a whole, but one of the patterns I've noticed is a very strong Saturn with the mid to faster vibratory Planets (especially Venus, Neptune, Jupiter, and Sun) beings passive/weak. (But often Pluto, Mars, and/or Mercury are simultaneously moderately to very strong as well).

I also very much believe in what Cayce talked about as far as the potential, important difference between the energetic/spiritual birth time and the physical birth times, and how this can potentially change the chart.

Hence, not everyone, even those with a physically accurate birth time, has an accurate chart.

I believe this for various reasons besides my 20+ years looking at charts and trust in this work. One is that my Mom was unusually psychic and well before I heard any of this stuff from Cayce, she told me that it was a little while after I was born that she saw a bright Light (i.e. Soul me) enter into the infant's body.

A somewhat later chart fits better holistically as well.

And then, YES, there is the wild card factor of freewill. Souls with an overall mid to faster vibratory chart can retrogress from that because of freewill. Then, Souls with a slower vibratory chart can grow away from that because of freewill.

This makes it a lot more relative and complex than any simple formula that data analysis, science minded types would prefer. But there ARE certainly patterns to be seen when the charts are more accurate than not, and one of the most consistent patterns I have seen is a very strong Planetary Saturn (NOT Capricorn or Aquarius) and lack of focus on/strength of the more heart and Soul oriented symbols (again, especially Venus, Neptune, Jupiter, and Sun). When these are simultaneously present with a very strong Saturn, it does much to offset such extremely selfish and lacking in empathy traits.

I grew up with a psychopathic step father, and learned to develop "psycho dar" because of him, and read a lot of books and articles about the subject, as well as approached it from an astrological angle. That combined with a very intuitive and expanded mind (for one example highlighted Cap Mercury trine Virgo Jupiter with less than a degree of separation) allows me to see deeper and more holistically into the issue.

I've learned that there is such as thing as "dark Souls" that come in psychopathic, which is why Hare reports cases of even 4 year olds which have all the symptoms of psychopathy, but just that he can't legally call them a psychopath. These small kids also in a psychologically healthy home and with psychologically healthy siblings. Even a case of identical twins where one is and one isn't a psychopath. Very much speaks to a deeper Soul and karmic issue much of the time.

I frankly don't care if you believe or agree with me or not.

As to Cayce, I recommend to anyone if they want both their minds and hearts blown, to read The biography about him and his work, Sidney Kirkpatrick's "Edgar Cayce: An American Prophet" and get back to me. The dude was the real thing times 100. Literally the most verified, broad, and vast psychic source on the Earth.

Kirkpatrick himself went into his research and investigation of Cayce as not only a complete skeptic of Cayce, but ALL things psychic and "spiritual". During said research and investigation, he had a major belief system crash, and eventually became deeply involved in service work with the A.R.E. for many years.

I happen to know him personally (and shared quite an interesting, verified psychic experience with him), and he verified for me that his public statements about how he got into the whole thing very much was the case.
Before Kirkpatrick tackled investigating Cayce, he was an award winning film documentarist and biographical/true crime author, and he put his considerable reputation on the line when he decided to write a book about Cayce. But that's how much he believed in the work.

And yes, totally agree with you, people either choose good, evil, or the like. In many ways, a chart is nothing more than a symbolic reflection of how an individual has used their freewill in the past. Because it represents their past, and innate character is destiny, this is why charts are so probable for so many people, and why few people use their freewill to great extents to dramatically change their charts/probable patterns. Because humans are creatures of habit and inertia much of the time. But certainly not all the time.

Feel free to continue the debate/argument, but typically when people label themselves as "stubborn", I am pragmatic enough to realize that typically their minds aren't very open and it would be a waste of time engaging more deeply. (oh that wry and dry Cap Sun and Merc. humor...).

---

Come on now? Cappy Mercury trine Jupiter in Virgo allows you to SEE wholistically ? Really Galactic ?

And there are other ways which do not utilize "heart", you are too attached to the "heart" perhaps ? Saturnians are not meant for the heart, not that they are not meant for it, but the beginning is not the heart, a skeptic cannot begin with trust.

posted October 28, 2019 01:25 PM            

quote:

---

Originally posted by StubbornVirgo:
...it's obvious that your posts on here are not meant to be replied to but instead worshipped.

---

The above is an extreme statement and characterization (or rather character assassination attempt), especially considering it came after literally one interaction. Far more extreme that just pointing out another posters self chosen label/username/ident.

You may as well as just come out, been fully direct and tell a poster that they are a narcissist or megalomaniac or the like. Only these type of personalities seek to be worshiped. You must think others are stupid and can´t read between the lines of implying?

Plenty of people here have disagreed with me, but as they did so in a respectful way, that is how they were responded to. Your first reply to me, well you came out with let´s just say, a noticeably strong vibe, then you get called out on your own username and what it obviously implies, and you turn around and tell that poster that they only seek to be worshiped.

I don´t have time for this silliness, so this will be my last reply to you on this thread if you continue to try to keep it about you and I.

posted October 28, 2019 01:54 PM            

quote:

---

Originally posted by anonymidarkness:
Come on now? Cappy Mercury trine Jupiter in Virgo allows you to SEE wholistically ? Really Galactic ?

And there are other ways which do not utilize "heart", you are too attached to the "heart" perhaps ? Saturnians are not meant for the heart, not that they are not meant for it, but the beginning is not the heart, a skeptic cannot begin with trust.

And do you really have a soul Galactic ? or just "heart" ? A "Soul" does not need to give all these reasons.

---

For what reason are you focusing so much on me personally? Perhaps look to the logs in your own eyes before trying to pull the ones out of mine?

But to address some of the above and why I am very interested and focused on this topic besides my own 11 year journey of hell living with a psychopath:

We live in extreme times, where the psychopathic plutocrats of our generations have accumulated more power, wealth, control, and resources and with advanced technology to back that and maintain control than in any known historical period. This is a class war like we have not seen for a very long time (not since the days of forgotten Atlantis). This is very dangerous and problematical to the rest of us. They can spy on literally almost anyone on the grid, and any concerted effort at rebellion or revolution is increasingly becoming less and less likely of a realistic option.

We need methods and tools to be able to see our common enemy and astrology is just one of those tools. If a chart shows tendencies towards born psychopathy (not the rare head injuries or the like), and it can if read well and right, then this is a good thing and helps us to be able to see who and what we are truly dealing with, whether in politics/government, in law, in banking, or any avenue where others can really mess with our commoner lives.

I have not once or will ever say that every person with a very strong Saturn is a psychopath or even has tendencies towards such. That is such simplistic and black and white thinking as to be laughable. It is far more nuanced, holistic, and relative/contextual than that.

And as StubbornVirgo noted earlier, freewill is indeed very much a factor. However, at the same time, it'is also true that the present Chart is basically a symbolic snap shot in time/space of how a Spirit and/or Soul has used it´s freewill in the past during their human experiences, and charts are as accurate and probable as they tend to be, precisely because humans are creatures of habit and rarely change tremendously within a given lifetime. Does sometimes happen, but it´s more rare than not.

Now, I could sit here, focus on you, and talk about the many potential and perceived issues that I see with you as a personality, but what would be the point? Even if I happened to be right, would you or most listen? How often does criticism or even debate truly change otherś´ minds? Pretty rarely ime/observation. However, it sometimes does for others who are not directly involved or who are on the fence. It is to and for these that I write.

You were already getting overly personal with me on the Kundalini Yoga thread, and I chose to just completely ignore you instead of engaging, but I´m currently hoping that a little holistic logic and reason might sway you to a more mature and constructive path. If not, then I´ll just go back to the former approach.

posted October 28, 2019 02:56 PM            

Projecting what you experienced in those 11 years on Saturnians and Plutocrats is not the answer.

You can go however you please, I am not scared of anything personal. Whats the point of focusing on impersonal things? Its the person which has to grow, not the concepts, and the concepts do not fit the person, its the person that creates the concepts.

As I see it, you are hiding behind your so-called holistic concepts and reason.

posted October 28, 2019 03:24 PM            

quote:

---

I have not once or will ever say that every person with a very strong Saturn is a psychopath or even has tendencies towards such. That is such simplistic and black and white thinking as to be laughable. It is far more nuanced, holistic, and relative/contextual than that.

---

Hmm I skipped over this one earlier, hmm I kinda get what you mean, but haven't you been there too and haven't you come here too? So can they??..

posted October 28, 2019 03:38 PM            

Now, if you want to debate Cayce and his info, feel free after you read Kirkpatrick´s ¨Edgar Cayce: An American Prophet¨. Most people that objectively research his life/work come away with the clear sense that he was the real deal if there ever was a psychic that is a real deal.

To the psychopathic plutocrats, whoever is not in their clique is a commoner, a serf, a peasant. Since I´m not in that clique, then yes, I am a commoner. I was speaking from their perspective and not my own or most peoples. As to how I view others and self, the most consistent and deepest way is that of we´re all Souls, and little individualized, freewilled selves of the Source ultimately no greater or lesser than each other at our core. What makes one Soul greater than another in the temporal/temporary sense only, is how they use their freewill to choose to open up to and attune to the kind of Love that is of and from the Source.

posted October 28, 2019 03:43 PM            

While I do think it is there in Pluotcrats and Saturnians, what can they really harm though? sooner or later they'd get tired of it, with hair falling like Donald Trump's, having to wear a chicken wig and what nott!!! Lives can be harmed though, yeah I guess, but you come back here again anyway no? And they come back too, Hahh Scumbagss!!

posted October 28, 2019 03:46 PM            

quote:

---

Originally posted by anonymidarkness:
Hmm I skipped over this one earlier, hmm I kinda get what you mean, but haven't you been there too and haven't you come here too? So can they??..

And why do you think some lack a soul...aren't psychopaths also a part of the whole ?

---

To be sure, all are part of the Whole, and all have worth and value. However, as this world is currently being run, and ruined by, psychopathic types, then the rest of us need to take back our power, and the first step in any transformation or positive change, is conscious awareness of the actual problems in front of us.

It´s certainly possible that ¨some¨ of these may eventually even be reached on a spiritual level. But sadly, the odds is that most of them are heading for consciousness entropy/unconscious self destruction, as Yeshua rhetorically asked the psychopathic plutocrats of his time (slightly paraphrased), *how will you vipers escape the rotting trash heaps of Gehenna that is your destiny?* (Basically pointing out, that if they persisted in their psychopathic/severely lacking in Love ways, that they would unravel their own consciousness strings.