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NotSoSure
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posted September 19, 2019 02:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NotSoSure     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
... avoid you when they like you?

I have a few theories but would love to hear from Scorpio Moons, specially women.

I'm sure this has been discussed several times here before, but couldn't find any topic.

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posted September 19, 2019 03:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dons2angelss     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Fear of feeling too much too soon or fear of rejection. I do the same thing. It's almost like I need to know how deep they feel before I'll let myself jump in. Always you first.
Could also be them feeling you out first too. The tiniest thing will mean a lot more to a scorpio moon. We're always keeping tabs on vibes, tone of voice, or mannerisms, and comparing it to what our intuition is telling us to see how authentic you are and if we can trust you.

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posted September 19, 2019 04:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NotSoSure     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Dons2angelss:
Fear of feeling too much too soon or fear of rejection. I do the same thing. It's almost like I need to know how deep they feel before I'll let myself jump in. Always you first.
Could also be them feeling you out first too. The tiniest thing will mean a lot more to a scorpio moon. We're always keeping tabs on vibes, tone of voice, or mannerisms, and comparing it to what our intuition is telling us to see how authentic you are and if we can trust you.

That's what I was thinking.

This is very interesting to know.
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Venus in Scorpio here. My guess is that it has to do with them wanting to "control" the situation and come from a place of great composure.

This movie is a bad one but the example is apt and so I will use it:

In "Twilight" when Edward meets with Bella for the first time in the lab,he is overcome by all sorts of intense feelings. He doesn't know whether to care for her or kill her?

So he avoids her and she gets the impression that he doesn't like her.He even decides to not show up for school for days on end to avoid her(very extreme reaction is a Scorpio trait).

But when he does eventually meet her, notice one clear difference; he is the first to greet her and HE is fully in control and composed.Whilst she(on the other hand) is caught offguard and surprised by him

And that is how it works really as Scorpio is ruled by Mars/Pluto and IS the predator in the night. Scorpio is NEVER the prey. THEY want to have the element of surprise and not be the one whom is caught with deer eyes in headlights etc.

Ofcourse Edward struggles to read her mind and this is another Scorpio trait; Scorpio is always trying to read you and figure out what you are about. And not necessarily what YOU tell them you are about. But what THEY glean to find out what you are about.

His(Ed's) inability to "read" Bella annoys him and has him switch periodically off/on on her to such an extent that she complains :"Your mood swings are giving me whiplash!" And that's how Scorpio energy can be too i.e Greatly annoyed if they can't "suss" you out etc.

Could this be why Nep/Pis/12th house people are such a big draw to them? Which I strongly suspect the character of Bell is based off on? Because Pisces is like one gigantic question mark in their solar 5th house of romance.

Add to this,the mind-bending Gemini is on the cusp of the solar 8th house of sexuality. And this to me suggests that Scorpio is VERY much about "detecting" and uncovering stuff.

As a Venus in Scorpio,when I really like/lust for someone(the former are the same to Scorpio) the feelings come to me like a whale diving in water and I am very close to the sidelines.I literally feel like I am going to fall over.

So I never want to come across "ridiculous" or "dorky" to the other person and I fight to control myself.Even if it means I come across "icy" or "assholy" to them, it matters not. I want to put a lid on my feelings and not be at anyone's "mercy"(that's powerlessness in my books)

When a Scorpio responds in a consistently "extreme" way to you i.e cold, snappy or actively avoids you for a long period of time etc. There is usually more to the story .

They are trying to resist from tearing your clothes off or metaphorically "biting" you etc. LOL. So let them cool off and get ahold of themselves.

I didn't quite catch on to this myself when many Scorpio type folks(mostly Sun/Mars and Moon there) in the past received me pretty badly.

I assumed I was not their cup of tea. As they were so mean to me-this despite my friendliness to them.One even called me "chick with a stick" .

But little did I know that this same guy would be the one to write me a long text message years later to apologize and profess feelings he has bottled up for ages.

Truth is that I myself don't just act that way to people I am indifferent towards. Usually I am casual and very bubbly to people I am not interested in romantically.

It's the ones that stir up intense sexual/love feelings that make me feel uncomfortable and I end up being funny towards etc. And that's because I feel that they have this invisible "power" over me

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posted September 20, 2019 11:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Librapurr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Venus in Scorpio here. My guess is that it has to do with them wanting to "control" the situation and come from a place of great composure.

It's the ones that stir up intense sexual/love feelings that make me feel uncomfortable and I end up being funny towards etc. And that's because I feel that they have this invisible "power" over me



Wow, sounds kinda close to what I saw. But I never know if he is playing with me or serious.
Can you tell me about preferences? Scorpio Venus supposed to like confident, dark, sexual women, but Scorpio moon needs security- how it would work together? Is it really supposed to be dark hair and strong, deep eyes?
Can you accept friendship if feelings ran out?
I don't think I fit any of it. So I'm confused why he gave me attention. But I'm a different from what he used too. And he cannot figure me out.

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posted September 20, 2019 04:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NotSoSure     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Venus in Scorpio here. My guess is that it has to do with them wanting to "control" the situation and come from a place of great composure.

This movie is a bad one but the example is apt and so I will use it:

In "Twilight" when Edward meets with Bella for the first time in the lab,he is overcome by all sorts of intense feelings. He doesn't know whether to care for her or kill her?

So he avoids her and she gets the impression that he doesn't like her.He even decides to not show up for school for days on end to avoid her(very extreme reaction is a Scorpio trait).

But when he does eventually meet her, notice one clear difference; he is the first to greet her and HE is fully in control and composed.Whilst she(on the other hand) is caught offguard and surprised by him

And that is how it works really as Scorpio is ruled by Mars/Pluto and IS the predator in the night. Scorpio is NEVER the prey. THEY want to have the element of surprise and not be the one whom is caught with deer eyes in headlights etc.

Ofcourse Edward struggles to read her mind and this is another Scorpio trait; Scorpio is always trying to read you and figure out what you are about. And not necessarily what YOU tell them you are about. But what THEY glean to find out what you are about.

His(Ed's) inability to "read" Bella annoys him and has him switch periodically off/on on her to such an extent that she complains :"Your mood swings are giving me whiplash!" And that's how Scorpio energy can be too i.e Greatly annoyed if they can't "suss" you out etc.

Could this be why Nep/Pis/12th house people are such a big draw to them? Which I strongly suspect the character of Bell is based off on? Because Pisces is like one gigantic question mark in their solar 5th house of romance.

Add to this,the mind-bending Gemini is on the cusp of the solar 8th house of sexuality. And this to me suggests that Scorpio is VERY much about "detecting" and uncovering stuff.

As a Venus in Scorpio,when I really like/lust for someone(the former are the same to Scorpio) the feelings come to me like a whale diving in water and I am very close to the sidelines.I literally feel like I am going to fall over.

So I never want to come across "ridiculous" or "dorky" to the other person and I fight to control myself.Even if it means I come across "icy" or "assholy" to them, it matters not. I want to put a lid on my feelings and not be at anyone's "mercy"(that's powerlessness in my books)

When a Scorpio responds in a consistently "extreme" way to you i.e cold, snappy or actively avoids you for a long period of time etc. There is usually more to the story .

They are trying to resist from tearing your clothes off or metaphorically "biting" you etc. LOL. So let them cool off and get ahold of themselves.

I didn't quite catch on to this myself when many Scorpio type folks(mostly Sun/Mars and Moon there) in the past received me pretty badly.

I assumed I was not their cup of tea. As they were so mean to me-this despite my friendliness to them.One even called me "chick with a stick" .

But little did I know that this same guy would be the one to write me a long text message years later to apologize and profess feelings he has bottled up for ages.

Truth is that I myself don't just act that way to people I am indifferent towards. Usually I am casual and very bubbly to people I am not interested in romantically.

It's the ones that stir up intense sexual/love feelings that make me feel uncomfortable and I end up being funny towards etc. And that's because I feel that they have this invisible "power" over me


Thank you so much! This Twilight analogy was really good and funny! And I agree the movie is bad 🤫

I think she gets confused by me, I can feel that sometimes she thinks: "WTF why he's not behaving the way I wanted!?"

Everything you pointed out makes totally sense, and this is helping me understanding her better.

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posted September 20, 2019 04:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Librapurr:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:

Wow, sounds kinda close to what I saw. But I never know if he is playing with me or serious.

Can you tell me about preferences? Scorpio Venus supposed to like confident, dark, sexual women, but Scorpio moon needs security- how it would work together? Is it really supposed to be dark hair and strong, deep eyes?

Can you accept friendship if feelings ran out?
I don't think I fit any of it. So I'm confused why he gave me attention. But I'm a different from what he used too. And he cannot figure me out.


Ideally,Scorpio imo is energy that is drawn to discovery and depth. And this is the textbook.But this is not always reality.

Its really not a select "few" that can get their attention. They are prone to lust more so than others actually (Mars-ruled).And many can go looking for love in al the wrong places(like everybody else)

But for those who are a lot more self aware or "serious", they look to attract those who are like minded.And not those whom they can manipulate and "change".

So those do look out for people who are layered(not dramatic),insightful(not smooth talkers),intimate(not constantly seeking physical gratification at the expense of connection) etc

If his feelings are strong, platonic friendship is not easy nor possible sometimes. At-least not from their POV.

He chose you because he likes you. I was speaking from the point of view of what he is dealing with inside.

As a Venus in Scorpio,I have not dated the types you described.But i have been drawn to sincerity and consistency from all the ones I liked.

Just be real, be yourself and be honest.Honesty is sexy.If he don't bite, he is the "unevolved" type.Just walk away.


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posted September 20, 2019 09:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Librapurr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Ideally,Scorpio imo is energy that is drawn to discovery and depth. And this is the textbook.But this is not always reality.

Its really not a select "few" that can get their attention. They are prone to lust more so than others actually (Mars-ruled).And many can go looking for love in al the wrong places(like everybody else)

But for those who are a lot more self aware or "serious", they look to attract those who are like minded.And not those whom they can manipulate and "change".

So those do look out for people who are layered(not dramatic),insightful(not smooth talkers),intimate(not constantly seeking physical gratification at the expense of connection) etc

If his feelings are strong, platonic friendship is not easy nor possible sometimes. At-least not from their POV.

He chose you because he likes you. I was speaking from the point of view of what he is dealing with inside.

As a Venus in Scorpio,I have not dated the types you described.But i have been drawn to sincerity and consistency from all the ones I liked.

Just be real, be yourself and be honest.Honesty is sexy.If he don't bite, he is the "unevolved" type.Just walk away.



How to know if Scorpio just lust or see you as the one?
Could he trick you into physical things like pretending he is serious about you?
I had thoughts mine Scorpio subject is womanizer. And would not go close near him if not crazy 12 house Synastry things.. We don't trust each other and make each other pretty nervous. So be real and honest - really difficult.

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posted September 21, 2019 12:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by NotSoSure:
Thank you so much! This Twilight analogy was really good and funny! And I agree the movie is bad 🤫

I think she gets confused by me, I can feel that sometimes she thinks: "WTF why he's not behaving the way I wanted!?"

Everything you pointed out makes totally sense, and this is helping me understanding her better.


Glad I could assist. Don't change yourself.Just be real and consistent.You don't have to play thejr mind games (Scorpio).

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posted September 21, 2019 01:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Librapurr:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:

How to know if Scorpio just lusts or sees you as the one?

Could he trick you into physical things like pretending he is serious about you?

I had thoughts mine Scorpio subject is womanizer. And would not go close near him if not crazy 12 house Synastry things.. We don't trust each other and make each other pretty nervous. So be real and honest - really difficult.


How to know? You don't.Scorpio is also not above being "player"(no Venus is).

But as I said earlier,Mars rules them.And so (much like fire Venus)lust and love tend to co-exist & be indistinguishable.

On your end however,keep it real and call things out. Scorpio is essentially about unearthing the "taboo" and facing up to it.

So don't worry about being "delicate" about the discomfort with them. If it's there, call it out. Most Scorpions appreciate honesty. Its refreshing to them.

So the next time you feel the unease, start off with;

"You know, sometimes I can't tell whether you like me or just want to lick me?lol.

There is something about our interaction that has me hold back a little because I don't want to be "flavour of the hour" or give myself away etc. Do you feel it too?"

If their eyes are not already bulging because of your candor,you are dealing with a robot. Not a Scorpio Venus. Lol.

This honesty will get you two to a more authentic place than pretending that everything's "fine". But do this privately one-on-one and not publicly.

The one stark difference between Sag and Scorpio is that Sag has no filter and keeps calling things out "as is" many times without considering the context nor the content of what is being said.

Scorpio loves contextual honesty i.e intimate honesty. But also pay close attention that you don't unintentionally offend through content( Scorpio is Mars/water after all and can be both sensitive /defensive.So they will shut down and/or lash out).

Candor doesn't have to cut-especially when meant to enhance the relationship. If you talk from an honest place, it will not harm. And if they take what was said above personally, respond with

"would you rather I pretend I dont feel this mixed sense of both interest and fear with you? Like i want to see where this leads but am also scared of being the one not in control of how it gets to where it'll go?"

This should bring out their more sensitive nature.If not, walk on.You are dealing witha lustful lip licking lizard and not an elegant engaged Eagle.

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posted September 21, 2019 12:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Librapurr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
How to know? You don't.Scorpio is also not above being "player"(no Venus is).
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This should bring out their more sensitive nature.If not, walk on.You are dealing witha lustful lip licking lizard and not an elegant engaged Eagle.


😄 Lustful licking lizard - you're so funny. Thank you for tips.
Bring out sensitive nature- hm, it seems like we bring out playing nature in each other ( And when I just try to mirror his game he shuts me down. I feel like I need to be kindergarten teacher - patient and understanding; otherwise, it's gonna be tantrum. 😱

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posted September 21, 2019 03:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Desiring Shadows     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I’m a Scorpio Sun in western. Wink wink
And my ex was a Venus scorpio
I don’t mind comparing my ex

Growing up I fit the text book Edward scenario as a Scorpio sun. I wrote in my diary something aboht a middle school crush that I posted on lindaland like five or six months ago. It was about my reaction towards this guy looking at me funny and doing bad boy tricks in the hall way. I’m not into that at all now. But when I was in middle school it was taboo which Scorpio likes and it was cute how excited I got over something an air or fire sign would’ve considered so minuscule.

Since then I’ve dated tons of guys and I’ve seen their perspectives towards relationships and it is not at all as fascinating as you’d think it to be. I don’t fall in love anymore. I reached that point where yeah he’s hot or yeah we have intellectually stimulating conversations but will it last? No. Andvenus virgo likes things that last. So that’s a turn off. Yeah I’m uptight like virgo venus suggests. I wouldn’t look to the moon or sun I’d look to the Venus.

I sometimes would ignore a person for a reason at its infant stage but once Scorpio conquered the gist of the dating Game it’s like whatever hi. What’s up... 😂

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Life’s too short to not be real about what you want when you want it. The mind games will endure, YOULL f*** it up. Just be real

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Once it ends it will never be the same again. Sometimes you don’t appreciate a moment until it’s gone and going back is impossible to do. Not everyone gives second chances

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posted September 21, 2019 10:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Librapurr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Life’s too short to not be real about what you want when you want it. The mind games will endure, YOULL f*** it up. Just be real

If you don't really know what you wanna. If you just want to get to know a person to figure out why you're so stuck on him. But he starts to be weird, play games.
I guess there're 3 options: to walk away, or play along, or let him fool you.

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posted September 21, 2019 10:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Librapurr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Desiring Shadows:
I’m a Scorpio Sun in western. Wink wink
And my ex was a Venus scorpio
I don’t mind comparing my ex


Since then I’ve dated tons of guys and I’ve seen their perspectives towards relationships and it is not at all as fascinating as you’d think it to be. I don’t fall in love anymore. I reached that point where yeah he’s hot or yeah we have intellectually stimulating conversations but will it last? No. Andvenus virgo likes things that last. So that’s a turn off. Yeah I’m uptight like virgo venus suggests. I wouldn’t look to the moon or sun I’d look to the Venus.

I sometimes would ignore a person for a reason at its infant stage but once Scorpio conquered the gist of the dating Game it’s like whatever hi. What’s up... 😂



I'm Venus Virgo. I was more like that when I was younger. Looking for safety, avoiding people who might bring strong emotions, but don't look like they can handle me for a long time. I'm probably still uptight Virgo Venus, but my Libra Sun/Moon want to come out and have some fun sometimes. So I disagree you need to look mostly Venus)
How would Scorpio and Virgo Venus work together? However, you probably was able to handle Scorpio Venus well because your Sun in Scorpio.


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... avoid you when they like you?

I have a few theories but would love to hear from Scorpio Moons, specially women.

I'm sure this has been discussed several times here before, but couldn't find any topic.


Because they want you to chase them. Perhaps of out insecurity, or a need for control. One of their favorite tactics is to lock themselves away to see if you will rescue them. They are every bit a damsel in distress as Pisces and Cancer. Especially when they've lost control of a situation.

You could spend the most romantic weekend together, yet in spite of their "intuition" they can't know for sure whether you like them or not. So they must play a game. Truth: they love playing games.

Scorpio: It's getting late, go.
You: I just got here.
Scorpio: [I really want you to say you're here to see me]

Scorpio: I have to get going.
You: Um, okay.
Scorpio: [I was hoping you'd convince me to stay]

Scorpio: I'm leaving this job
You: Oh
Scorpio: I have two offers; one in town, the other 1000 miles away.
You: I see
Scorpio: Don't know which one to choose. Faraway one pays more.
You: Tough choice.
Scorpio: [Tell me to choose the one in town, cause you want me here.]

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Because they want you to chase them. Perhaps of out insecurity, or a need for control. One of their favorite tactics is to lock themselves away to see if you will rescue them. They are every bit a damsel in distress as Pisces and Cancer. Especially when they've lost control of a situation.

You could spend the most romantic weekend together, yet in spite of their "intuition" they can't know for sure whether you like them or not. So they must play a game. Truth: they love playing games.

Scorpio: It's getting late, go.
You: I just got here.
Scorpio: [I really want you to say you're here to see me]

Scorpio: I have to get going.
You: Um, okay.
Scorpio: [I was hoping you'd convince me to stay]

Scorpio: I'm leaving this job
You: Oh
Scorpio: I have two offers; one in town, the other 1000 miles away.
You: I see
Scorpio: Don't know which one to choose. Faraway one pays more.
You: Tough choice.
Scorpio: [Tell me to choose the one in town, cause you want me here.]


Haha I really loved the dialogue between "You" and the "Scorpio"!
As a Libra Moon I would tell her to choose the faraway one and still love her to death. Because it's the most logical choice. 🤷🏻‍♂️
But I would probably move 1000 miles away to be with her. Best of both worlds.

I see, so we need to constantly show them that we like them.
That's so Scorpio Moon for sure!

Thank you for your input Nine!

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posted September 22, 2019 01:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NotSoSure     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Desiring Shadows:
I’m a Scorpio Sun in western. Wink wink
And my ex was a Venus scorpio
I don’t mind comparing my ex

Growing up I fit the text book Edward scenario as a Scorpio sun. I wrote in my diary something aboht a middle school crush that I posted on lindaland like five or six months ago. It was about my reaction towards this guy looking at me funny and doing bad boy tricks in the hall way. I’m not into that at all now. But when I was in middle school it was taboo which Scorpio likes and it was cute how excited I got over something an air or fire sign would’ve considered so minuscule.

Since then I’ve dated tons of guys and I’ve seen their perspectives towards relationships and it is not at all as fascinating as you’d think it to be. I don’t fall in love anymore. I reached that point where yeah he’s hot or yeah we have intellectually stimulating conversations but will it last? No. Andvenus virgo likes things that last. So that’s a turn off. Yeah I’m uptight like virgo venus suggests. I wouldn’t look to the moon or sun I’d look to the Venus.

I sometimes would ignore a person for a reason at its infant stage but once Scorpio conquered the gist of the dating Game it’s like whatever hi. What’s up... 😂


Thanks Desiring Shadows!
Very interesting to read this.

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