posted September 24, 2019 11:55 PM            

If we are going by Vedic, I have that entire bunch above I've mentioned in the 5h but in the ice-cold Saturn ruled Aqua its a shame, Hehh. But I've always shared a good rapport with women right from when I was in Kindergarten so doesn't matter whatever I am as long as what matters does...maybe...Hahh

posted September 25, 2019 12:44 AM            

I have a Libra Venus. I wonder if it's because it's sextile to my 5H stellium? Maybe it gives it a creative edge? For example, for close friends and such I can make a mixtape (me and my BFF have exchanged multiple ones, she's an Aquarius Venus, btw).

Another example is that when a significant other told me that after I read Hiero by Xenophon and could discuss the philosophy in intricate detail, referring to other philosophers and trivia, she knew I was "the one." (I think it's more complicated than that, but it's certainly a contributing factor.) So like one time I expressed love on a special day with a book on Greek history (with a brief poem in it that has specific meaning) that shows I get her and care about her more than any card bought from the store ever could.

I'm affectionate, but I rarely say "I love you." When I do say it, it will be matter of fact ("those I love"). Maybe it's because those words are too cheap, and too manipulative.

Or maybe because I so rarely heard them myself growing up (nor did I indulge in much romance media), though that doesn't mean I felt unloved. One present I valued so much was a skateboard by my grandmother after I'd wanted one for 3 years, despite that she did not care for my tomboy ways, and a doctor told her I should eat more and get less exercise (I was underweight, not that I had an eating disorder). By doing so, she SHOWED me that she loved and accepted me even though I wasn't everything she hoped for, and that made me feel more loved than I fear a majority of people ever do who hear empty "I love you" but never really shown save maybe throwing money at you (or worse, to "make up" for abuse). Since I remember the power of being shown love rather than told love, perhaps that's why I share my expressions of love in a similar way.

posted September 25, 2019 08:31 AM            

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Originally posted by Desiring Shadows:
What do you think signifies a person who is into wordly expressions of love? I'd think a venus in an air or fire sign. Anyway, are you into that?

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I say what I feel and its usually laden with emotions. I think I started a thread on here about liking expressive people.

Venus sextile Mercury
Venus in 7th
Mercury opp Moon
Moon in 3rd.

You are right about air signs expressing affection with words. I pay close attention not necessarily to WHAT the person says.But HOW they say it

posted September 25, 2019 08:31 AM            

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Originally posted by Desiring Shadows:
What do you think signifies a person who is into wordly expressions of love? I'd think a venus in an air or fire sign. Anyway, are you into that?

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I say what I feel and its usually laden with emotions. I think I started a thread on here about liking expressive people.

Venus sextile Mercury
Venus in 7th
Mercury opp Moon
Moon in 3rd.

You are right about air signs expressing affection with words. I pay close attention not necessarily to WHAT the person says.But HOW they say it

posted September 25, 2019 10:23 AM            

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Originally posted by Desiring Shadows:
I'm a Venus Virgo, Mars Libra. Whenever a guy tells me he loves me or tells me he wants to be with me, I'm instantly turned off. I'd like to be friends with him and love him, but I don't want the commitment of saying how we feel until we actually thoroughly know that those are our feelings, after many times of experiencing them. Saying you love me once or twice after you've felt it is kind of an insult to me. I mean I love to hear it but Its off putting.

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Same girl, same.

posted September 25, 2019 12:23 PM            

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Originally posted by Desiring Shadows:
Saying you love me once or twice after you've felt it is kind of an insult to me. I mean I love to hear it but It's off putting.

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It's okay to feel that.

The 'insult' is maybe a subconscious repulsion to imagined expectations, with sense of "duty"; that you have a sense of 'obligation' to respond and echo back words that you don't genuinely "feel" reciprocated towards the other person(s) involved?

When you really-truly love someone else who is 'outside of you', then saying and hearing I Love You (towards yourself) wouldn't feel {insulting} to you?

Maybe you're just in a 'dry' place with your life right now, and need some time.

Old Saying ..
"The Ear longs to hear .. what the Heart already knows."

For example, your parents.
You already feel a sense of security about their love towards you.
At some points, you don't really sense-feel the same way about *them*.

Morally,
you want to withhold verbalizing something to them that you don't truly feel in-touch-with inside yourself.

Putting this as a Value in a positive frame--
it's a sign of integrity--
verbalizing ONLY what is true, and what you can actually 'feel' in that moment.

If you feel 'nothing' for them then you don't want to use words that convey any sense of Loving or belongingness back at them.

This is 'different' than the level of a social greeting.

Like, some people have the 'habit' of greeting other people by saying, "Hi. How are you?" -- and in 'actuality', they don't want to hear the truth of how you really are feeling! Those are just 'being-nice' kind of social-polite greetings.

I have Sag Rising
Venus Taurus H5
Venus opp Saturn r Scorp H11
Neptune r Libra H10
Cancer Stellium with Jupiter Cancer H8
Mars Cancer H7gem trine Juno r Scorpio H11
Vesta Cancer H8 trine Saturn r Scorp
Mercury Gem trine Neptune r Libra H10
Mercury H7 conjuncts Mars Cancer.
Virgo Moon is most-elevated body and near early MC Libra
Moon sextile Jupiter {asc chart-ruler Sag}

Pluto Leo generation, e.o. H8
Neptune r Libra. H10
We are/were the Love Generation.

I have a spiritual and emotional availability, to stand in front of someone (a stranger), and say 'I Love You' to them with ALL the Fullness, magnanimity and genuineness in meaning (with Healing) from my Heart and emotions.

This world has grown more 'cold' and detached.

I'm really glad when I have that opportunity to 'do' that for Others. It fills in gaps we have in Society.

They might be milling around this world, in all kinds of pain. But I can make quick eye-contacts with strangers, and the ones who 'need' that kind of Love-sense are able to draw it for themselves, from my inner-sense of Care about them (even though I don't know them).

When I confess that 'I Love You' ..
I'm "talking-through" to them on a Soul-level and to their inner-being.
I 'affirm' and Validate their Existence on this planet, and I hope it gives them a momentary feeling that 'they are Okay', they are Valued and Loved, and they have a Purpose in being Here on this planet.