posted October 15, 2019 02:42 AM            

How similar would these two individuals be to natives of Sun in Cancer or Gemini respectively?

posted October 15, 2019 06:24 AM            

YoursTrulyAlways,

posted October 15, 2019 01:49 PM            

It is where we bring clarity, meaning, those "a-ha" moments, illumination and intuitive knowing(Jupiter is external knowing and study)

The Sun doesn't move and is like honey to the bees or the flame to moths.People seek out the light of the Sun and not the other way around(atleast metaphorically).

Sun in 4th- Loved at home, the family makes you their "celebrity",th apple of your mom's eye(even when there are other siblings),people want to be around you at home,the glue that keeps everything together, the life is focused in the home, you bring people together in the home, an imposing figure domestically, there can only be one bull in the kraal or Queen in the castle, the character of Shanti-"Family affairs" indian tellenova, the chief family patriarch/matriarch, Stephanie Forrester(B&B American tellenova), Diane Keatons character in "The family stone", the person whom runs the family affairs, the family member who "rules" with an iron fist in a velvet glove, people serve you food or attend to your needs at home, at home one is pampered and can do no wrong, "Wait! We cannot start the family proceedings without[insert name here]" etc.

If the Sun is in Scorpio/ Cap or in aspect to Pluto/Saturn in the 4th, people may fear them and the "respect" attained comes out of that fear. And when in Aries or Sun in aspect to Mars, the family may fear the natives temper tantrums and the shouting etc.

When in the 3rd house, the focus shifts.

The story teller wows the listeners, intellectual powerhouse, books/talk that clarifies things, bloggers and vloggers, talk show hosts, Magazine editors, the elder siblings who sets the example, the loud voice, the "aha" moment, the writer, orator, Morgan Freeman's voice, Voice identifiers, Dad was a Dj,wanting to have everyone's attention, the best man's speech at a wedding, someone who loves givinh speeches, "Can I have everyone's attention please? I would like to make a toast", life answers come from books, love to be on the road,seeing as much as life has to offer by being on the road, a personal relationship with ones car, the transport/telecommunications industry etc.

posted October 15, 2019 02:06 PM            

They are very different in their indication though there is a loose archetypal connection.

posted October 15, 2019 05:23 PM            

She even married a guy within her family.

posted October 15, 2019 05:52 PM            

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Originally posted by CardinalT-Square:
What would a woman with a Virgo Sun be when she has strong family orientation, complains/questions her Mother about
events/issues going on in her life, (particularly issues with the opposite gender) and stays close to home, with a select few family members outside her Mother/Sister that she spends a great deal of her available free-time with?

She even married a guy within her family.

3rd or 4th House Sun? I'm not sure how much of a reader/storyteller she is, but I know she enjoys magic.

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posted October 15, 2019 07:11 PM            

Her Moon is in Aries 28degrees 32min. Near the cusp of the 11th House, but depending on what House her Sun is in, it could be in the 11th or could remain in the 10th House if she has a 3rd House Sun.

posted October 16, 2019 02:41 AM            

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Originally posted by CardinalT-Square:
@Aries23Degrees

Her Moon is in Aries 28degrees 32min. Near the cusp of the 11th House, but depending on what House her Sun is in, it could be in the 11th or could remain in the 10th House if she has a 3rd House Sun.

I also want to point out that she has Mercury conjunct Sun in Virgo, Uranus and Neptune both Trine Sun from Capricorn 7th House, and Mars Contra-parallel Sun from Libra 4th House. Those are the major aspects to her Sun, but if need be I can list the minor aspects also.

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I think her positions will suffice. Does she have Mars in Libra in the 4th house opposite her Moon in Aries?

posted October 16, 2019 05:33 AM            

Her B-Day is Sept. 5th, 1993. Born in Loves Park, IL. Originally at 1:32:38AM, but now I think she is 12:49:19AM because I forgot to take into account Jupiter and how it shows up in our charts in relation to the Sun/Leo. I have Jupiter Trine Sun as you can see, and her husband has Jupiter in Leo, but her older Sister has Jupiter in Cancer in the 4th House, so I'm 99.9% certain her Jupiter is in that "Island of Transition" between her 4th and 5th Houses. By that, I mean her Jupiter should be within her 5th House, but only 12' into it, so it's still receiving energy from the 4th House, and she may or may not have a contra-parallel between her Sun and Jupiter, but it's extremely weak if it does exist at all.

Her Sun is 6°47'52"N
Her Jupiter is 5°15'13"S

But, I could be wrong hence this thread😆😀

posted October 16, 2019 02:22 PM            

Add to that both 3rd and 4th deal with local neighborhoods.Whereas the 4th being more one's personal subjective roots or sense of emotional security.

Mercury is close to the IC suggests she likes to talk about her feelings. Maybe her Mom is an excellent sounding board?

I see also that Mars is in the 4th house and this position suggests a lot of energy invested in domestic things. Sometimes if it is not properly managed, it can get out of hand with aggression and disputes in the home.

I find it interesting that Uranus aspects Mars from the 7th.I always see Uranus-Mars aspects as increasing the likelihood of problems or accidents in the house that Mars is in.

This is mostly due to the fact that Mars and Uranus both tend to act unilaterally i.e "off the cuff" and with mixed results. So close associations and marriage prospectives will have to give them lots of leeway.

She has Sun/Venus in the early developmental phases of the chart i.e 1st through to 4th. And with Venus in 2nd, someone with a similar background or value system is typically very attracting(especially when we see Ven is in romance affiliated Leo)

Venus also forms favourable aspects with Mars/ Jupiter(again here emphasising the need for personal space in relationships). Add to this Plutos intense energy is restricted by Saturn in the 5th house of love( she values sensibility over pure passion), Uranus is conjunct the Dsc axis but in the sign of Cap.-minimizing much of its "shock" narrative.

My guess is that she is married to someone who is not joined to her at the hip AND is probably cerebral. A down to earth guy who gives her space and is not about displaying affections in public or showering her with sentimental things etc.

Sun in 3rd would have the hubby be expressive or well versed.Someone who is good with words and since it is in Virgo conj Merc, they are also careful to express themselves succinctly

posted October 17, 2019 03:34 AM            

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Originally posted by CardinalT-Square:
Hard to say about her Husband since he's a quiet person, I know he has a Capricorn Asc. though, but other than that I have no idea.

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That makes sense.She does have Pluto in 5th squaring Saturn. And Saturn barely out of the cusp of the 8th house of intimacy in the 9th.Her Moon has an easy sextile aspect to Saturn and even though Dsc is conjunct Uranus in Cap,its mutual reception with Saturn in Aquarius edges out its more erratic nature.

Sun in Virgo -conj Merc is an attraction towards the "careful" type.And Cap energy is steady. Add to that Venus in its own earth-associated chilled out 2nd.

He may be shy etc. But i do reckon he has the qualities spoken of above i.e intelligence,maturity, a fussy cautious disposition and the ability to allow the partner a lot of leeway or give them space(her North node is in Sag in 5th and "personal space" and/or "freedom" is important to Sag types)

posted October 17, 2019 08:13 AM            

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Originally posted by CardinalT-Square:
Her daughter has Moon in Aquarius, mirroring her Moon in the 11th but, if I leave her chart as is, it's teetering between 10th and 11th Houses, should I put her chart a little earlier to put her Moon completley in the 11th House, and still maintain Sun in 3rd House?

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The quest for "neatness" and simplicity.sigh.

I think it gives the chart some character "as is". My Mars tethers between 6th/Dsc and Venus is also on tne cusp of the 7th/8th.

posted October 18, 2019 07:18 AM            

Am I on the right track? Does 5th House even matter when it comes to marriage? Transit Venus would also square her Uranus/Neptune conjunction in Capricorn in her 7th House and just barely trine her Aquarius Saturn, and barely oppose her Natal Moon. I changed her time to 00:56:55AM, if anyone's curious.