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rainyvirgo
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posted November 19, 2019 11:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for rainyvirgo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey, so I just realized yesterday that I have a mystic rectangle in my chart, and itís kind of hard to find information about it.

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If you guys feel like it and know anything about mystic rectangles, can you guys take a look at my chart and let me know your thoughts? Apparently itís fairly uncommon to have?

Are there any other notable shapes/formations in my chart? Iíve never really spent much time learning how to actually read a chart and instead would always just look at the tables on astrotheme that tell you all the planets and aspects

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Graham
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posted November 19, 2019 11:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Graham     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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"...considered to be a mild aspect pattern in that it generally does not generate a lot of discomfort, resistance or require convoluted actions in order to gain productivity. The individual with a Mystic Rectangle does gain considerable benefit from the planetary configuration's balance and structure. There is a high degree of synchronization between the four planets when the Mystic Rectangle is triggered. Unfortunately, understanding and acknowledging the balance is not the rule - the individual must consciously react with awareness and mindful endeavors. Placing too much attention onto any one of the four placements will throw the energies out of balance and set the individual's well-intended efforts adrift.

The power of the Mystic Rectangle takes practice in order to gain the most benefit from it. The masculine reception of the Mystic Rectangle is expressed through an extrovert nature by the individual. The feminine reception of the configuration is expressed through an introvert nature. The problem arises through the two oppositions which can cause the individual to bounce out of control between four opposing influences. The sextiles and trines must be used to unify and support the polarities. Another danger for individuals with this pattern is to become too self-contained and over-powered by the influences. Once the individual has learned how to harness the energies of the configuration, the decisions and choices in life become much easier to initiate and participate in." ... http://www.lunarliving.org/astrology/mysticrectangle-wedge-aspects.html


Mars in Leo/11th - I get noticed by others. ... Moon in Virgo/1st - I need to understand, by reasoning/logic. ... Jupiter in Pisces/7th - I believe that others can understand, by "knowing"/intuition. ... Neptune in Capricorn/5th - Guessing games are fun, and can be used to facilitate team building.

So ... here is a person who might introduce herself to strangers by asking "can you guess my rising sign" - then follow up with "can you tell me why you think that". And, this is a fun game in which everybody wins/learns.

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rainyvirgo
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posted November 19, 2019 01:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for rainyvirgo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Mars in Leo/11th - I get noticed by others. ... Moon in Virgo/1st - I need to understand, by reasoning/logic. ... Jupiter in Pisces/7th - I believe that others can understand, by "knowing"/intuition. ... Neptune in Capricorn/5th - Guessing games are fun, and can be used to facilitate team building.

So ... here is a person who might introduce herself to strangers by asking "can you guess my rising sign" - then follow up with "can you tell me why you think that". And, this is a fun game in which everybody wins/learns.


Ahahahaha thatís a good example

How can I learn to harness this aspect? How do I ďconsciously react with awareness and mindful endeavors. Placing too much attention onto any one of the four placements will throw the energies out of balance and set the individual's well-intended efforts adrift.Ē

I donít know quite what it means for me and what kind of things I can do in my daily life to actively work on it and utilize it

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posted November 19, 2019 05:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Graham     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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How can I learn to harness this aspect? How do I ďconsciously react with awareness and mindful endeavors. Placing too much attention onto any one of the four placements will throw the energies out of balance and set the individual's well-intended efforts adrift.Ē

Note the Mars-Neptune and Moon-Jupiter oppositions in your mystic rectangle. ... If these were not softened by the trines and sextile, you'd probably have asked this question confrontationally - perhaps along the lines of "what does this astro-babble actually mean, Limey?".

However ... because you already are "consciously reacting with awareness/mindfulness", you used the soft aspects to ask the question in a balanced/non-confrontational way.

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I donít know quite what it means for me and what kind of things I can do in my daily life to actively work on it and utilise it

No need to work on it. ... It is already functioning with all the efficiency/effectiveness of a hot knife cutting through butter.

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posted November 20, 2019 03:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Graham     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Are there any other notable shapes/formations in my chart?

Sun+NN-Moon-Neptune-Saturn are in a trawler configuration.

Mars-Saturn-Pluto are in a Learning Triangle.

Mars-Saturn-Neptune-Pluto are in a Double Ambivalence triangle

Sun+NN-Saturn-Pluto are in a Learning Triangle

And, I'd guess your Moon-Jupiter and Mars-Neptune oppositions are now wanting to ask "what does all that astro-jargon/babble mean in shoot-from-the-hip USA-English, Limey?"

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posted November 20, 2019 03:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for rainyvirgo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yesssss please tell me what those mean, Iíd appreciate it a lottttt
Iíve never heard of any of those, Iíve only heard of mystic rectangle, yod, kite, grand trine, t square ahahaha

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posted November 20, 2019 01:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Graham     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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Originally posted by rainyvirgo:
Yesssss please tell me what those mean, Iíd appreciate it a lottttt
Iíve never heard of any of those, Iíve only heard of mystic rectangle, yod, kite, grand trine, t square ahahaha


As the name indicates, Learning Triangles consist of planets that are working together to deliver/teach a specific lesson to the chart owner. What that lesson actually is emerges over time, as the chart owner slowly-but-surely becomes increasingly aware of the pattern in whatever events are created by progressions and transits to the planets in the triangle. Each event-cycle begins when a progression or transit makes a conjunction with the natal planet at the red+blue aspect corner of the triangle; continues when the progressing or transitting planet conjoins the natal planet at the red+green corner; offers a solution to the event issue/problem when the progressed/transitting planet conjoins the natal planet at the blue+green corner and is completed when the progressed/transitting planet again conjoins the natal planet at the red+blue corner. ... So, the flow = red line -> green line -> blue line - (and the lessons of clockwise flow triangles take much longer to learn than do those of anti-clockwise flows). ... [From Aspect Pattern Astrology, by the Hubers.]

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posted November 20, 2019 01:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Graham     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Yesssss please tell me what those mean

The Trawler is a security-seeking configuration ... which attracts people via the semi-sextile, and then keeps them interested via the qcx/mental-stimulation and trines/feel-good-contact. Those who have it in the natal chart tend to be good at absorbing and evaluating information from their surroundings/environment. ... [From Aspect Pattern Astrology, by the Hubers.]


The Double Ambivalence Figure is difficult to summarise here - but see the analysis of Vladimir Putin at http://joycehopewell.blogspot.com/2014/05/ http://joycehopewell.blogspot.com/2014/05/

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posted November 20, 2019 11:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for rainyvirgo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That's sooooo interesting omg. Very very me!!! Especially the learning triangles lol

Mars-saturn-pluto and Sun/NN-Saturn-pluto all sound exactly like the pattern of me struggling with lack of structure and self-discipline and being made aware of how badly I need it and how badly I need to start making organization part of my every day habits.

I wrote a lengthy ish reply to Dumuzi about part of my solar return this year, on my rising sign thread, if you wanna read it - I talk about the structure and discipline thing as a theme of this year, and when you pointed out and explained the learning triangles it really came together for me

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posted November 21, 2019 03:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Graham     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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my habits are really chaotic and unstructured and one of the biggest things I need to work on this year is creating structure for myself at home, from which I will be able to spiritually/emotionally grow a ton. My daily routine is non-existent, I've been doing a **** job at working on it, but Saturn is constantly there reminding me that this is where my focus at home needs to be. Like it's not even *forcing* me to be organized in an inconvenient way.... It's just gently putting my awareness on the lack of structure in my daily routines at home. My college class schedule makes it possible for me to sleep in until noon or later if I feel like it. All of my classes are 2pm and later. It could have been something like all of them early classes and forced me to have a morning routine, but instead it's giving me all this room and freedom to realize I need to get my crap together myself and do better for myself because I'm not going to excel and reach my potential unless I actually become organised.
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/241454-4.html


Note how your two learning triangles combine (via the Sun-Mars semi-sextile) to form (what the Hubers call) the Runner/Jumper or Dancing figure. And how this adds two more Learning Triangles ... anti-clockwise Saturn->Mars->Sun+NN and clockwise Pluto->Sun+NN->Mars.

Anti-clockwise/short-term-lesson (from Saturn) ... "I need to work this year on creating structure for myself at home,"

Clockwise/long-term-lesson (from Pluto) ..."from which I will be able to spiritually/emotionally grow".

But ... how/why will creating structure for yourself at home facilitate spiritual/emotional growth?*

[* "In the runner/jumper/dancing figure there is a flight mechanism - learned in childhood - that could develop into addictions to certain actions and activities. Once the figure is activated, the (habitual) flight mechanism runs by itself and can only be controlled if it is understood ... From Aspect Pattern Astrology, by the Hubers.]

Could it be that understanding the psychological drive of a habitual behavioural pattern is the key to overcoming it - so, Saturn willpower alone is not enough to prevent us from "falling off the wagon" in the future?

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posted November 22, 2019 02:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for CardinalT-Square     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Graham! Would you mind looking at my chart as well? I think I have what you call a Thrawler with Mercury-Venus-Pluto-Saturn-Neptune. It's two together between all those planets so I'm not sure what you would call that or what they mean??? Also do you have any info on Trapezoid patterns? Are they even a thing, or should I look at the grander picture? It's between my Sun-Moon-Uranus-Jupiter. RainyVirgo has it as well, so you'd be doing us both a favor😀 Thanks!

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posted November 22, 2019 03:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Graham     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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Graham! Would you mind looking at my chart as well?

To avoid confusion - this thread should focus solely upon the natal chart of rainyvirgo.

So ... please see the "personal readings" thread that I have opened for your chart at http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum11/HTML/025732.html

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posted November 30, 2019 02:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for rainyvirgo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Could it be that understanding the psychological drive of a habitual behavioural pattern is the key to overcoming it - so, Saturn willpower alone is not enough to prevent us from "falling off the wagon" in the future?

Yeah thatís a good point. Iíve spent a lot of time understanding where my disordered eating comes from and Iíve made a lot of progress with it, but still have work to do with finally fixing things there.

Iím not sure yet where all the chaos in my routines comes from... and why I have a hard time with keeping up with things. Iíll need to do some digging. Itís quite a nuisance because I love it when things are organized. Iím gradually getting to a place where itís more important to me and it feels like itís going to get a bit easier.

One of the things Iím really hoping to integrate into my life (I may make it a New Years resolution) is bullet journals! And I bought markers and a whiteboard calendar, just need to start using it. I also want a bulletin board maybe. I fantasize about all these ways to organize and structure my days and it really sucks that I never get around to it.

Iím especially interested in bullet journaling - a friend of mine thatís also a Virgo actually suggested it to me haha. Iíve tried regular journaling several times throughout my life, but for some reason I find it hard to write about my days and things that happened. I like the idea of it, because it would be nice to look back and read through things that were happening in my life, but I still havenít found a way of doing so that feels natural. Maybe itís not for me. But I forget so much and I donít like how little I remember of my past. Everything is like a foggy haze and I remember odd things. But maybe bullet journaling, aka just keeping track of all the details and structuring my day, would help me remember things without needing to write down whole situations.

ďthe Bullet Journal is meant ďto help you track the past, organize the present, and plan for the future.Ē Itís an amazing system that keeps a record of everything you could ever want to toss at it. It can be your task manager, sketchbook, journal, idea catcher, and much more!

The Bullet Journal is a organizational system in a notebook that keeps track of anything you would like to write down in an coherent way.Ē

I really really really really really really really want to become organized. Like super, amazingly, ridiculously structured and organized. I need it. It sounds so good to me. Iím getting so tired of feeling like Iím always behind and always forgetting things and always spending my time unproductively. My Virgo moon is helplessly drowning in this kind of lifestyle

Ideally, Iíd wake up early in the morning, like 5am, have some time for going through my journal and making a daily list in a separate notepad (maybe, because writing it out again sounds like it be a good way to make sure I donít forget things) of what needs to be done that day, and then get as much done as early as I can. Iíd have time for working out and planning meals, and for studies.

Not only do I need it emotionally but I also am very much aware of how important this will be for me in the future. Iím in school to become a massage therapist right now and I plan to have my own business once Iím done. If I want to run a business and not have it fall apart in my hands, I need to develop this organizational skill.

My mom is a Scorpio sun/moon/mercury with Pluto in Virgo and sheís AMAAAAZING with organization. Sheís always so on top of everything and I honestly donít know how she does it. She doesnít need a journal or a calendar or anything. It seems so overwhelming to me.

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