posted December 01, 2019 11:39 PM            

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Originally posted by rainyvirgo:
Initially we were looking at late July early August but that’s risky because I don’t know how long his immigration stuff will take to process.... we’re getting legally/court married in England in March during my spring break (March 28th seemed like a good day, can you look at it?), so he can apply for a spouse green card

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Wait. I just re-read this. THIS is the moment of your marriage. When you two start the contract (signing your marriage papers in England) is the date we want to be looking at. The wedding will literally be ceremonial, not the actual event.

posted December 02, 2019 12:36 AM            

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His chart:

posted December 02, 2019 12:48 AM            

Marriage is a contractual agreement. Yes, there is the soul bond, of course, but the commencement of your marriage is when you 2 are legally bound to each other. Same as with company mergers and other business deals that require signed contracts.

posted December 02, 2019 03:03 AM            

That being said, I think this is a BEAUTIFUL chart for a wedding chart.

However, I think 2:30 PM would be better than 3:15.

My reason being that the sun (the vitality and purpose of the chart) is a fire singleton and doesn't form very many aspects with anything else in the chart, but this time would give a late Leo ASC (28*20, so conjunct the fixed star Regulus) making the sun the chart ruler. Also, I don't like Neptune in your 7H. Changing the time to 2:30 leaves mercury there for good partner communication, but moves Neptune to the 8H where I think it would be less detrimental.

2:30PM leaves that massive 5H stellium but also makes the conjunction between the Taurus Moon and Venus exact as well as exacting the trine between Moon and Jupiter/Pluto. And since the Moon will perfect the trine with Mars before leaving Taurus, the Moon isn't considered Void of Course.

I don't think you could have a better date. And if you can get that paper signed at 2:30PM I think it gives the most optimal chart.

I tried backing it up to about 10AM to give a Cancer Asc and that chart is nice, too, but lacks the 5H influence and the Venus/Moon conjunction doesn't become exact until.. 2:30.

posted December 02, 2019 04:01 AM            

moon conjunct venus in taurus, conjunct midheaven?!!!! AND that awesome conjunction is trine Mars/Jupiter/Pluto/Pallas in Capricorn in the 5th house omgggg

And juno is conjunct part of Fortune in Libra! Wow this chart is awesome

The only thing that looks a little iffy is sun conjunct Chiron and with Leo rising then Chiron is conjunct the chart ruler... But I'm not afraid of Chiron, my Venus/Mercury is square Chiron in my chart. And this is the best chart I've found by far, so lucky to be for a day that's actually possible for me!!!!

I wonder how Chiron would play out in a wedding chart. Do you have any idea?

posted December 03, 2019 11:11 PM            

Sorry it's been a minute, I've been trying to research this for you a little because I'm really not too terribly familiar with asteroid astrology, even one as prominent as Chiron.

I remembered from trying to find the perfect chart on a specific day (my ex-husband chose the day we married because I begged him to pick SOMETHING for the wedding instead of telling me "what ever you think, babe") seeing things from Magi Astrology regarding Chiron in marriage charts.

Basically, for the marriage chart they believe that the sun represents the marriage itself and Chiron rules marriages. So a conjunction between these 2 in the marriage chart would be a most favorable thing. More important to the Magi view on Chiron, though, is to be married under what they call a "Cinderella Aspect". This is when transit Chiron forms beneficial aspects with your Natal Sun, Venus, Jupiter,Neptune, or Pluto or in turn, if any of those planets in transit make aspects to your natal Chiron. They claim the more of these transits each person has, the longer, more loving, and happy a relationship will be.

On that particular day, your fiance has one aspect between his natal Chiron and transit Neptune, but it's a square and I'm really unsure if that qualifies as a Cinderella aspect because it is a square.

You have 2 of these Cinderella aspects. Your natal Chiron trine tNeptune and your nPluto trine tChiron.

I'm sure there are other days that would have more, but at least you both have those contacts on your day.

But there are other astrologers who would fret to have Chiron involved in something so important as a conjunction to the sun in a marriage chart.

posted December 04, 2019 01:09 AM            

Originally, I thought making the Sun the chart ruler as a fire singleton was a good idea. And it is! In theory If it were the only part of the chart. The problem with that is then Saturn/Uranus, who co-rule the Dsc, are in a square that is only going to get tighter in orb over the next couple years. Let's not, and say we didn't.

So I took another look, just one more. And if you go for 2:45, the Asc has moved into the first degree of Virgo. This puts Neptune back in the 7H, but I think that's less detrimental than the Saturn/Uranus square ruling your Dsc since Neptune rules the 7H. Also, this time and Asc means all of the angle rulers are in Aspect to each other, connecting all parts of the chart to each other. Any later than 2:45, though, and the exact conjunction of Venus and Moon will no longer be there. It will still be close, but not as exact.

posted December 31, 2019 04:57 AM            

Is there anything else I’m missing about this chart that’s worrisome? Any particular good points? I know it can’t be as good as the other one but. Rip
I’m liking the moon conjunct Venus in Taurus as the moon is now the chart ruler

posted December 31, 2019 09:23 AM            

Astrology only reflects what is already there as a probable potential.

Having a different wedding date is NOT going to change the essence of one's marriage and how that turns out, which to some extent, also is dependent on both of the peoples' spiritual will which is a wild card factor that is not and cannot be seen in any astrological indications/patterns.

Just pick a time that is convenient for all parties involved.

This is when astrology starts to become too much of a superstition and/or religion rather than a helpful tool. The highest purpose of astrology is a tool to better know self/others, and to remind one of the Oneness/interconnection of the Whole.

It has no power in and of itself, as it's a symbolic language that just simply reflects the probable potential that is already there. Meaning, it's not a cause, but an indicator. Like a cosmic map. Does the map itself have power?

posted December 31, 2019 11:30 AM            

I still have the same day that I wanted, but booked for 11:00am instead of 2:15 (2:45 chart) so the chart is a bit different, not quite so perfect

It’s just a thing that would make me feel better in my mind about everything, like every detail was perfectly in place and that’s what I care about because my wedding is something that I’ve been planning and fantasizing about since I was little

But I’m absolutely confident that we’ll be good together, he’s my best friend

We’ve asked them to let us know if there’s a cancellation, but that’s unlikely and honestly I’m going to ask the venue and see if maybe we can have the ceremony at the booked time, go to lunch, and then come back and sign our stuff at 2:45 hahahahahahaha

posted December 31, 2019 12:44 PM            

Basically, I was trying to get across that you just don't need to stress or worry about it as far as the astrology goes.

Anyways, on a more personal note, congratulations and I hope everything goes really well.