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Topic: Is Uranus conj asc (taurus) bad for a wedding chart?
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rainyvirgo Knowflake Posts: 71 From: west virginia Registered: Apr 2017
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posted November 30, 2019 11:25 PM
I have a few other questions, but. I’m trying to plan a wedding and the ideal date I wanted isn’t an option - we’re Russian orthodox, and the seemingly perfect date I found was August 15th 2020 (libra rising, Venus in cancer conjunct moon exactly, a few other goodies but that was the big WOW to me) but we can’t because you can’t get married during a fasting period (unless it's war time or something. You have to get specific permission from the bishop for a fasting wedding... And astrology would not be a valid reason LOL. I'm not even supposed to be looking at this but I can't help it) and that’s the day the Dormition fast for the Mother of God starts So instead I’m looking at November 22 2020 at 4pm (really at 3:15 or 3:30 so that we'd be actually in the marriage part of the ceremony by 4pm) It doesn't seem as great but I can’t really find much better Sun in sag 1* , 7th house (square my sun exactly and conjunct Pluto with a 3 or 4 degree orb) Moon in Pisces 8*45 , 11th house (also conjucnt my natal descendant exactly) Asc Taurus 9* (trine my ascendant, lands in my 9th house) MC Cap 23* (w Jupiter conjunct at 24* and Saturn at 27*) Mercury scorpio 16*09 , 7th house Venus scorpio 1*38 , 6th house Mars Aries 15*45 , 12th (trine my Venus/merc) Already mentioned Jupiter and Saturn , both 10th Uranus in Taurus 7*48, so conjunct from the 12th house Neptune Pisces 18*10, 11th Pluto in Capricorn 23* oh yeah.... Another MC conjunction ))) Chiron Aries 5* , 12th house Pallas Capricorn 25* again MC Juno in Scorpio 21* , 7th house Vesta in Virgo 11* , trine chart Asc and Uranus from 5th house (would this be good for kids? It's also conjunct my natal ascendant) North node Gemini 20* , 2nd house (in my natal 10th) Lilith Aries 24* .... Square all those MC planets , 12th house Fortune Leo 16*43 , 4th house (conjunct my natal merc/Venus in my 12th ... idk much about this point but maybe it would be a good thing for my 12th house planets?) And all the Capricorn planets trine my moon and sextile my Jupiter, and are in my 5th house Does this sound like a good wedding chart? I'm still trying to figure out the whole wedding chart thing, I could use some help. It looks like it would be pretty good but is there something I'm missing? Would all those planets conjunct the midheaven square Lilith end up playing out badly? Or would it strengthen the marriage because the MC is associated with marriage right? Bc public declaration of love and whatever Would Uranus conjunct ascendant indicate some issues? Or mean the marriage is exciting and spontaneous and maybe somewhat different (Uranus) while also being stable and long lasting (Taurus)? Is there anything about this that stands out as really golden?? Any red flags? Are Scorpio planets not ideal for a wedding chart? I can't tell if having the ascendant ruler in Scorpio is good or bad IP: Logged |
athenaia Knowflake Posts: 1530 From: USA Registered: May 2015
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posted November 30, 2019 11:55 PM
Maybe September 16th, 2020? New Moon in Virgo Venus in Leo trine Mars in Aries Jupiter/Pluto/Saturn in Cap support the New Moon Also Dec 13th 2020 Sun, Moon, Mercury, Venus, SN, Juno all together in Sagittarius trine Mars in Aries An eclipse day Maybe ASC in Taurus so the Sagittarius stellium falls in the 7th? IP: Logged |
rainyvirgo Knowflake Posts: 71 From: west virginia Registered: Apr 2017
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posted December 01, 2019 12:23 AM
September 16th is a Wednesday, and I can’t do weekdays because I’m still a student And December is another fasting periodddddd. The nativity fast leading up to Christmas Another reason November 22 sounded like a good idea is because it’s the weekend before thanksgiving break would start so we could have a lil honeymoon since my classes will be out. Does the 11/22 chart overall look bad to you? Is Uranus conjunct ascendant really bad? And. Also also alsoooooo Hahaha I like that the date would be 11/22/2020 Really satisfies my Virgo moon lmaoo IP: Logged |
athenaia Knowflake Posts: 1530 From: USA Registered: May 2015
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posted December 01, 2019 12:41 AM
lol it is a pretty date My issue with Nov 22nd is that the Sun is Square the Moon, in marriage charts I like to see the Sun and Moon in harmony (that's why I was going for New Moons, it is a hard aspect but the nature of "union" and those two merging is beautiful to me, and a few classical astrologers feel New Moons are ideal for marriage) So we can't use August.. nothing pretty was coming up for me in July using only Sundays. June and half of May has Venus retrograde in Gemini so let's avoid that.. May 3rd 2020 Sun conjunct Mercury in Taurus Moon in Virgo Venus in Gemini trine Mars in Aquarius May 10th 2020 Sun and Mercury in Taurus Moon in Capricorn Venus in Gemini conjunct NN trine Mars in Aquarius I don't think Uranus is evil but it is certainly unconventional, at it's worst destabilizing? Your union sounds traditional so it may be best not to highlight Uranus too much, especially as thematically weddings want to be seen as solid, unbreakable, stable, generally predictable. It can be featured on some level but I wouldn't want it at the forefront of your wedding chart via the ASC, you know? Libra ASC could still highlight Venus as your wedding's chart ruler, or even Cancer ASC to highlight the Moon IP: Logged |
rainyvirgo Knowflake Posts: 71 From: west virginia Registered: Apr 2017
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posted December 01, 2019 12:59 AM
Hmmmmmmmmm. Well in my natal chart I have Venus opposite Uranus so it doesn't scare me just by looking at it. But I don't know how Uranus conjunct Asc would affect the chart. How would that play out? It doesn't seem terrible since Uranus is kinda a feature in my love life anyway (it's always either been me being hot/cold/quicky losing interest, or in an LDR, and my man lives in England at the moment lol so, very Uranus) and our composite chart is good and synastry is solid enough. Lots of saturn. But again I don't know what Uranus conjunct ascendant would feel like. We are traditional but at the same time I don't mind being different and shaking things up a bit. And my Venus/Uranus aspect has made me quite rebellious in my life. And tbh in a way me coming back to traditional stuff is a bit of rebellion against the dominant culture lolWe talk a lot about living in different countries (like Japan) so maybe in those countries we'd be seen as very Uranian? And I like the idea of the Pisces moon because I like Pisces a lot, as I have a lot of Neptune in my chart, and a Pisces Jupiter and descendant. Is sun square moon super terrible? Because we do have a lot of peace between us in general with our personalities so I feel like it wouldn't be felt very strongly???? What do you think? IP: Logged |
athenaia Knowflake Posts: 1530 From: USA Registered: May 2015
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posted December 01, 2019 01:17 AM
The international nature of your relationship with you guy would probably be a little more Jupitarian in a sense, right? Because Jupiter rules travel, foreign destinations, etc Let's say you decide to go with Taurus ASC conjunct Uranus because you want Venus as the chart ruler Venus technically isn't in the best shape in Scorpio because this is the sign Venus is in detriment in, so she's not truly functioning to the best of her abilities (according to classic astrology anyway, I do love Venus in Scorpio in people) This Venus is also unaspected in the chart with the exception of a semi-sextile to Sun in Sagittarius Also not only is the Moon square the Sun in the Nov 22nd chart, the Pisces Moon is in a, albeit wide, t-square with the Nodes in Gemini/Sagittarius Also Pluto is square Juno (marriage) in the Nov 22nd chart... this just kind of worries me a bit tbh, combined with everything else This person breaks it down a lot here, she also mentions why she's leery of Sun sq Moon in a wedding chart: https://www.leahwhitehorse.com/2015/01/06/choose-your-wedding-date-with-astrology-electional-guidelines/ IP: Logged |
rainyvirgo Knowflake Posts: 71 From: west virginia Registered: Apr 2017
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posted December 01, 2019 01:38 AM
Yeah okay fair enough What about November 15 at 4:30pm? Sun 23°59' Scorpio Moon 3°35' Sagittarius Mercury 6°01' Scorpio Venus 23°01' Libra Mars 15°15' Aries Jupiter 23°22' Capricorn Saturn 27°10' Capricorn Uranus 8°04' Я Taurus Neptune 18°13' Я Pisces Pluto 22°55' Capricorn Chiron 5°21' Я Aries Ceres 0°52' Pisces Pallas 23°41' Capricorn Juno 18°59' Scorpio Vesta 8°49' Virgo Node 20°03' Я Gemini Lilith 9°37' Я Taurus Fortune 19°29' Taurus AS 9°53' Taurus MC 23°37' Capricorn Now the sun is sextile the MC and the planets on the MC. And Venus is in libra (yay!) but is now square Pluto and Jupiter exactly and Saturn with a 4 degree orb And the moon’s only aspect is trine Chiron (but that doesn’t sound bad) IP: Logged |
athenaia Knowflake Posts: 1530 From: USA Registered: May 2015
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posted December 01, 2019 10:13 AM
I much prefer this chart! Sure Uranus is still on the ASC but I love how the Sun/Moon/Juno are all in the 7th and Jupiter is in the 9th IP: Logged |
rainyvirgo Knowflake Posts: 71 From: west virginia Registered: Apr 2017
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posted December 01, 2019 12:07 PM
How would Uranus conjunct the ascendant play out thought? What are the positive and negative possibilities of that? What about Venus as the chart ruler square Pluto and Saturn and Jupiter? IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 73506 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted December 01, 2019 01:07 PM
Not necessarily bad. You could be an unusual couple----different ages, races, religions or something of that natureIP: Logged |
rainyvirgo Knowflake Posts: 71 From: west virginia Registered: Apr 2017
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posted December 01, 2019 01:19 PM
Well, he is 12 years older than me. I’m 21 and he just turned 33. Could it be as simple as that? Not destabilizing and chaotic? IP: Logged |
LionFish Knowflake Posts: 1871 From: Registered: Aug 2012
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posted December 01, 2019 04:55 PM
If I may interject here..Trying to force Uranus to be normal is like trying to stop the sun from shining. You can't. Maybe "normal" is the wrong word. Traditional. I noticed you said that your fiance lives in England, has your whole relationship been long distance? Uranus can do things like; sustain a long distance relationship or even a FWB for years because it's different and independent which is exciting for Uranus and so its energies flow naturally, but when the people involved try to make it a traditional relationship it can come apart more quickly than either could have imagined. That is the worst a prominent Uranus can do. That doesn't mean Uranus can't be married, but maybe you both have careers that require travel and hence, time apart. Time spent independently and then you come together to share your experiences. I know this is the wedding chart and that your synastry and composite will overrule it, but I have a feeling with your Venus opposite Uranus in your natal that Uranus is probably fairly prominent in most of your relationships since any planet making aspects to Venus automatically creates them with Uranus, too. Depending on the exact orb of your opposition. I speak from many years of Uranus meddling in my relationships And Uranus is strong in my chart. It rules my DSC and 8H Square my Sun and Mercury Quincunx my Moon Conjunct my Mars in the 5H Trine my MC which is ruled by that Mars conjunct Uranus... All of that is under 3°, so you could say I'm pretty familiar with Uranian influence. Basically, what I'm saying is that if you can avoid any more Uranus influence, you probably should. When are your times of fasting that you can't get married?
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rainyvirgo Knowflake Posts: 71 From: west virginia Registered: Apr 2017
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posted December 01, 2019 06:04 PM
Yes, our whole relationship has been long distance, however he spent the first 3 months of this year living with my priest and we were together every day and it only strengthened things and highlighted how wonderfully compatible and friendly we are with each other, I didn’t get that uranian “aaaaahhh I’m not so sure about this anymore, I need distance and space, this person is suffocating me” feeling, mostly because our relationship is so much like just the best of friends that it doesn’t make me feel claustrophobic like too much flirting does. (I need to look and see how his chart aspects my Uranus, I know at least that my Leo Venus/Mercury are trine his Aries moon, which means his moon loosely aspects my Uranus, and I know Uranus is trine his Ascendant, I think pretty closely like 2 degrees or something) And then I visited him and his family for just over two weeks this summer, and I’m about to go visit again in a few days for the whole month of December. March 1st-April 19th (great Lent and Easter) June 15th-July 11th (apostles fast) August 14th-August 28th (dormition fast) November 28th-January 6th 2021 IP: Logged |
rainyvirgo Knowflake Posts: 71 From: west virginia Registered: Apr 2017
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posted December 01, 2019 06:05 PM
Hold on I accidentally submitted that before I was done Edit: ok done IP: Logged |
LionFish Knowflake Posts: 1871 From: Registered: Aug 2012
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posted December 01, 2019 07:13 PM
quote: Originally posted by rainyvirgo: Hold on I accidentally submitted that before I was done Edit: ok done
I'm combing through dates... I know you said November because you have a break from school then, but do you also prefer a fall/winter wedding? And you are on summer break until when? IP: Logged |
LionFish Knowflake Posts: 1871 From: Registered: Aug 2012
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posted December 01, 2019 07:27 PM
I know it was mentioned already, but May 3rd looks like a really great day..The dates that fall available in those last months of the year pose a situation I'm not too particularly fond of and that's that Jupiter/Pluto/Saturn stellium square Mars in Aries. Do you HAVE to get married in 2020? And if so, can it be on May 3rd? Lol IP: Logged |
rainyvirgo Knowflake Posts: 71 From: west virginia Registered: Apr 2017
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posted December 01, 2019 07:40 PM
Initially we were looking at late July early August but that’s risky because I don’t know how long his immigration stuff will take to process.... we’re getting legally/court married in England in March during my spring break (March 28th seemed like a good day, can you look at it?), so he can apply for a spouse green card, but fall/winter is definitely preferable for the church wedding with the guests and reception. Also because I don’t finish my massage therapy program until the middle of July... but then in September I’m starting school again (beauty school to get an esthetician’s license) unless I decide to do that later?? But I probably most likely will do it in September. Anyways I also looked at summer of 2021 and found a good date in June (can’t remember what it was now, I think 13 or 16 or something) but I don’t really want to wait that long to have the official wedding November or maybe October seems like my only option, but I’m open to the first half of 2021 IP: Logged |
rainyvirgo Knowflake Posts: 71 From: west virginia Registered: Apr 2017
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posted December 01, 2019 07:43 PM
quote: Originally posted by LionFish: I know it was mentioned already, but May 3rd looks like a really great day..The dates that fall available in those last months of the year pose a situation I'm not too particularly fond of and that's that Jupiter/Pluto/Saturn stellium square Mars in Aries. Do you HAVE to get married in 2020? And if so, can it be on May 3rd? Lol
Honestly May 3rd sounds amazing because spring is my favorite, and I always visualized a spring wedding, AND I love the signs in spring, but I’m afraid it’s too soon after the legal “wedding” in March and his visa most likely won’t be processed yet. Sorry I was typing the last reply before you posted this and I just saw it IP: Logged |
rainyvirgo Knowflake Posts: 71 From: west virginia Registered: Apr 2017
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posted December 01, 2019 07:44 PM
But yeah I guess 2021 I wouldn’t mind, it would give me more time to plan the perfect wedding, and also maybe finish beauty school too IP: Logged |
rainyvirgo Knowflake Posts: 71 From: west virginia Registered: Apr 2017
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posted December 01, 2019 07:46 PM
I’m crap at finding wedding charts I guess, yikes, thanks for helping me you guys IP: Logged |
athenaia Knowflake Posts: 1530 From: USA Registered: May 2015
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posted December 01, 2019 09:16 PM
I completely endorse all the ideas LionFish is throwing out for sure! I was also looking at October 2020 and like her I'm really iffy about Mars in Aries squaring that massive Capricorn stellium. Since your fiance has an Aries Moon, it might be best to avoid the Cancer-Capricorn axis is my thought now.. A little unconventional but a date that caught my eye is this one: March 12th 2021 (Friday though) Sun in Pisces Moon in Pisces Venus in Pisces (exalted) Neptune in Pisces Mars loosely conjunct NN in Gemini Juno conjunct SN and Eros in Sagittarius This date is also pretty awesome in my opinion: April 11th, 2021 Sun in Aries Moon in Aries Venus in Aries Mercury in Aries Saturn in Aqua trine NN in Gemini The dates for April 25 are tricky as this is when Sun in Taurus is moving towards Uranus in Taurus again, so April 25th is actually a pretty cool chart (Sun in Taurus, Moon in Libra - very Venusian) but the Sun and Venus are in close orb with Uranus so I'm hesitant to select this one May 16th 2021 is cute too Sun in Taurus (out of orb from Uranus) Moon and Mars in Cancer Mercury and Venus conjunct NN in Gemini Sun exactly trine Pluto If you select 4pm then the Moon is exactly trine Neptune IP: Logged |
rainyvirgo Knowflake Posts: 71 From: west virginia Registered: Apr 2017
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posted December 01, 2019 09:43 PM
I’m so sad. Literally wish I was Protestant or something so I could have a wedding whenever the frick I wanted and then convert back to orthodoxy 😭😭😭 All of those dates are during freaking lent I AM SO SAD I especially love the date with all the freaking Pisceesssssss IP: Logged |
rainyvirgo Knowflake Posts: 71 From: west virginia Registered: Apr 2017
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posted December 01, 2019 09:45 PM
Ooooooo I do love May 16th. I’m gonna look at it. I just saw that for some reason I read it wrong before I replied IP: Logged |
rainyvirgo Knowflake Posts: 71 From: west virginia Registered: Apr 2017
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posted December 01, 2019 09:52 PM
Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuugggggg. I love May 16th but my man is really unhappy about waiting that long. I just tried to tell him and now he’s like “I’m just going pick a date and it have nothing to do with astrology, I’m not waiting that long, it’s just going to keep getting pushed back”IP: Logged |
LionFish Knowflake Posts: 1871 From: Registered: Aug 2012
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posted December 01, 2019 11:33 PM
Well, if day of the week doesn't matter (like before your classes start in September, that opens some things up. And I would say people probably have to schedule time off to come anyway..
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