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rainyvirgo
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posted November 30, 2019 11:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for rainyvirgo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have a few other questions, but. I’m trying to plan a wedding and the ideal date I wanted isn’t an option - we’re Russian orthodox, and the seemingly perfect date I found was August 15th 2020 (libra rising, Venus in cancer conjunct moon exactly, a few other goodies but that was the big WOW to me) but we can’t because you can’t get married during a fasting period (unless it's war time or something. You have to get specific permission from the bishop for a fasting wedding... And astrology would not be a valid reason LOL. I'm not even supposed to be looking at this but I can't help it) and that’s the day the Dormition fast for the Mother of God starts

So instead I’m looking at November 22 2020 at 4pm (really at 3:15 or 3:30 so that we'd be actually in the marriage part of the ceremony by 4pm) It doesn't seem as great but I can’t really find much better

Sun in sag 1* , 7th house (square my sun exactly and conjunct Pluto with a 3 or 4 degree orb)
Moon in Pisces 8*45 , 11th house (also conjucnt my natal descendant exactly)
Asc Taurus 9* (trine my ascendant, lands in my 9th house)
MC Cap 23* (w Jupiter conjunct at 24* and Saturn at 27*)
Mercury scorpio 16*09 , 7th house
Venus scorpio 1*38 , 6th house
Mars Aries 15*45 , 12th (trine my Venus/merc)
Already mentioned Jupiter and Saturn , both 10th
Uranus in Taurus 7*48, so conjunct from the 12th house
Neptune Pisces 18*10, 11th
Pluto in Capricorn 23* oh yeah.... Another MC conjunction )))
Chiron Aries 5* , 12th house
Pallas Capricorn 25* again MC
Juno in Scorpio 21* , 7th house
Vesta in Virgo 11* , trine chart Asc and Uranus from 5th house (would this be good for kids? It's also conjunct my natal ascendant)
North node Gemini 20* , 2nd house (in my natal 10th)
Lilith Aries 24* .... Square all those MC planets , 12th house
Fortune Leo 16*43 , 4th house (conjunct my natal merc/Venus in my 12th ... idk much about this point but maybe it would be a good thing for my 12th house planets?)

And all the Capricorn planets trine my moon and sextile my Jupiter, and are in my 5th house

Does this sound like a good wedding chart? I'm still trying to figure out the whole wedding chart thing, I could use some help. It looks like it would be pretty good but is there something I'm missing? Would all those planets conjunct the midheaven square Lilith end up playing out badly? Or would it strengthen the marriage because the MC is associated with marriage right? Bc public declaration of love and whatever
Would Uranus conjunct ascendant indicate some issues? Or mean the marriage is exciting and spontaneous and maybe somewhat different (Uranus) while also being stable and long lasting (Taurus)?

Is there anything about this that stands out as really golden?? Any red flags?

Are Scorpio planets not ideal for a wedding chart? I can't tell if having the ascendant ruler in Scorpio is good or bad

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posted November 30, 2019 11:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for athenaia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Maybe September 16th, 2020?

New Moon in Virgo
Venus in Leo trine Mars in Aries
Jupiter/Pluto/Saturn in Cap support the New Moon

Also Dec 13th 2020

Sun, Moon, Mercury, Venus, SN, Juno all together in Sagittarius
trine Mars in Aries
An eclipse day
Maybe ASC in Taurus so the Sagittarius stellium falls in the 7th?

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posted December 01, 2019 12:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for rainyvirgo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
September 16th is a Wednesday, and I can’t do weekdays because I’m still a student

And December is another fasting periodddddd. The nativity fast leading up to Christmas

Another reason November 22 sounded like a good idea is because it’s the weekend before thanksgiving break would start so we could have a lil honeymoon since my classes will be out.

Does the 11/22 chart overall look bad to you? Is Uranus conjunct ascendant really bad?

And. Also also alsoooooo
Hahaha
I like that the date would be
11/22/2020
Really satisfies my Virgo moon lmaoo

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posted December 01, 2019 12:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for athenaia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
lol it is a pretty date

My issue with Nov 22nd is that the Sun is Square the Moon, in marriage charts I like to see the Sun and Moon in harmony (that's why I was going for New Moons, it is a hard aspect but the nature of "union" and those two merging is beautiful to me, and a few classical astrologers feel New Moons are ideal for marriage)

So we can't use August.. nothing pretty was coming up for me in July using only Sundays.

June and half of May has Venus retrograde in Gemini so let's avoid that..

May 3rd 2020
Sun conjunct Mercury in Taurus
Moon in Virgo
Venus in Gemini trine Mars in Aquarius

May 10th 2020
Sun and Mercury in Taurus
Moon in Capricorn
Venus in Gemini conjunct NN trine Mars in Aquarius

I don't think Uranus is evil but it is certainly unconventional, at it's worst destabilizing? Your union sounds traditional so it may be best not to highlight Uranus too much, especially as thematically weddings want to be seen as solid, unbreakable, stable, generally predictable. It can be featured on some level but I wouldn't want it at the forefront of your wedding chart via the ASC, you know? Libra ASC could still highlight Venus as your wedding's chart ruler, or even Cancer ASC to highlight the Moon

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posted December 01, 2019 12:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for rainyvirgo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hmmmmmmmmm. Well in my natal chart I have Venus opposite Uranus so it doesn't scare me just by looking at it. But I don't know how Uranus conjunct Asc would affect the chart. How would that play out? It doesn't seem terrible since Uranus is kinda a feature in my love life anyway (it's always either been me being hot/cold/quicky losing interest, or in an LDR, and my man lives in England at the moment lol so, very Uranus) and our composite chart is good and synastry is solid enough. Lots of saturn. But again I don't know what Uranus conjunct ascendant would feel like. We are traditional but at the same time I don't mind being different and shaking things up a bit. And my Venus/Uranus aspect has made me quite rebellious in my life. And tbh in a way me coming back to traditional stuff is a bit of rebellion against the dominant culture lol

We talk a lot about living in different countries (like Japan) so maybe in those countries we'd be seen as very Uranian?

And I like the idea of the Pisces moon because I like Pisces a lot, as I have a lot of Neptune in my chart, and a Pisces Jupiter and descendant. Is sun square moon super terrible? Because we do have a lot of peace between us in general with our personalities so I feel like it wouldn't be felt very strongly???? What do you think?

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posted December 01, 2019 01:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for athenaia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The international nature of your relationship with you guy would probably be a little more Jupitarian in a sense, right? Because Jupiter rules travel, foreign destinations, etc

Let's say you decide to go with Taurus ASC conjunct Uranus because you want Venus as the chart ruler

Venus technically isn't in the best shape in Scorpio because this is the sign Venus is in detriment in, so she's not truly functioning to the best of her abilities (according to classic astrology anyway, I do love Venus in Scorpio in people)

This Venus is also unaspected in the chart with the exception of a semi-sextile to Sun in Sagittarius

Also not only is the Moon square the Sun in the Nov 22nd chart, the Pisces Moon is in a, albeit wide, t-square with the Nodes in Gemini/Sagittarius

Also Pluto is square Juno (marriage) in the Nov 22nd chart... this just kind of worries me a bit tbh, combined with everything else

This person breaks it down a lot here, she also mentions why she's leery of Sun sq Moon in a wedding chart:

https://www.leahwhitehorse.com/2015/01/06/choose-your-wedding-date-with-astrology-electional-guidelines/

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posted December 01, 2019 01:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for rainyvirgo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah okay fair enough

What about November 15 at 4:30pm?

Sun 23°59' Scorpio
Moon 3°35' Sagittarius
Mercury 6°01' Scorpio
Venus 23°01' Libra
Mars 15°15' Aries
Jupiter 23°22' Capricorn
Saturn 27°10' Capricorn
Uranus 8°04' Я Taurus
Neptune 18°13' Я Pisces
Pluto 22°55' Capricorn
Chiron 5°21' Я Aries
Ceres 0°52' Pisces
Pallas 23°41' Capricorn
Juno 18°59' Scorpio
Vesta 8°49' Virgo
Node 20°03' Я Gemini
Lilith 9°37' Я Taurus
Fortune 19°29' Taurus
AS 9°53' Taurus
MC 23°37' Capricorn

Now the sun is sextile the MC and the planets on the MC. And Venus is in libra (yay!) but is now square Pluto and Jupiter exactly and Saturn with a 4 degree orb

And the moon’s only aspect is trine Chiron (but that doesn’t sound bad)

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posted December 01, 2019 10:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for athenaia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I much prefer this chart! Sure Uranus is still on the ASC but I love how the Sun/Moon/Juno are all in the 7th and Jupiter is in the 9th

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posted December 01, 2019 12:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for rainyvirgo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
How would Uranus conjunct the ascendant play out thought? What are the positive and negative possibilities of that?
What about Venus as the chart ruler square Pluto and Saturn and Jupiter?

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posted December 01, 2019 01:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Not necessarily bad. You could be an unusual couple----different ages, races, religions or something of that nature

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posted December 01, 2019 01:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for rainyvirgo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, he is 12 years older than me. I’m 21 and he just turned 33. Could it be as simple as that? Not destabilizing and chaotic?

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posted December 01, 2019 04:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LionFish     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If I may interject here..

Trying to force Uranus to be normal is like trying to stop the sun from shining. You can't. Maybe "normal" is the wrong word. Traditional. I noticed you said that your fiance lives in England, has your whole relationship been long distance? Uranus can do things like; sustain a long distance relationship or even a FWB for years because it's different and independent which is exciting for Uranus and so its energies flow naturally, but when the people involved try to make it a traditional relationship it can come apart more quickly than either could have imagined. That is the worst a prominent Uranus can do. That doesn't mean Uranus can't be married, but maybe you both have careers that require travel and hence, time apart. Time spent independently and then you come together to share your experiences.

I know this is the wedding chart and that your synastry and composite will overrule it, but I have a feeling with your Venus opposite Uranus in your natal that Uranus is probably fairly prominent in most of your relationships since any planet making aspects to Venus automatically creates them with Uranus, too. Depending on the exact orb of your opposition.

I speak from many years of Uranus meddling in my relationships And Uranus is strong in my chart.
It rules my DSC and 8H
Square my Sun and Mercury
Quincunx my Moon
Conjunct my Mars in the 5H
Trine my MC which is ruled by that Mars conjunct Uranus...
All of that is under 3°, so you could say I'm pretty familiar with Uranian influence.


Basically, what I'm saying is that if you can avoid any more Uranus influence, you probably should. When are your times of fasting that you can't get married?

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posted December 01, 2019 06:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for rainyvirgo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, our whole relationship has been long distance, however he spent the first 3 months of this year living with my priest and we were together every day and it only strengthened things and highlighted how wonderfully compatible and friendly we are with each other, I didn’t get that uranian “aaaaahhh I’m not so sure about this anymore, I need distance and space, this person is suffocating me” feeling, mostly because our relationship is so much like just the best of friends that it doesn’t make me feel claustrophobic like too much flirting does. (I need to look and see how his chart aspects my Uranus, I know at least that my Leo Venus/Mercury are trine his Aries moon, which means his moon loosely aspects my Uranus, and I know Uranus is trine his Ascendant, I think pretty closely like 2 degrees or something)
And then I visited him and his family for just over two weeks this summer, and I’m about to go visit again in a few days for the whole month of December.

March 1st-April 19th (great Lent and Easter)
June 15th-July 11th (apostles fast)
August 14th-August 28th (dormition fast)
November 28th-January 6th 2021

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posted December 01, 2019 06:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for rainyvirgo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hold on I accidentally submitted that before I was done

Edit: ok done

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posted December 01, 2019 07:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LionFish     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by rainyvirgo:
Hold on I accidentally submitted that before I was done

Edit: ok done


I'm combing through dates... I know you said November because you have a break from school then, but do you also prefer a fall/winter wedding?

And you are on summer break until when?

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posted December 01, 2019 07:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LionFish     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I know it was mentioned already, but May 3rd looks like a really great day..

The dates that fall available in those last months of the year pose a situation I'm not too particularly fond of and that's that Jupiter/Pluto/Saturn stellium square Mars in Aries.

Do you HAVE to get married in 2020? And if so, can it be on May 3rd? Lol

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posted December 01, 2019 07:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for rainyvirgo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Initially we were looking at late July early August but that’s risky because I don’t know how long his immigration stuff will take to process.... we’re getting legally/court married in England in March during my spring break (March 28th seemed like a good day, can you look at it?), so he can apply for a spouse green card, but fall/winter is definitely preferable for the church wedding with the guests and reception. Also because I don’t finish my massage therapy program until the middle of July... but then in September I’m starting school again (beauty school to get an esthetician’s license) unless I decide to do that later?? But I probably most likely will do it in September. Anyways I also looked at summer of 2021 and found a good date in June (can’t remember what it was now, I think 13 or 16 or something) but I don’t really want to wait that long to have the official wedding

November or maybe October seems like my only option, but I’m open to the first half of 2021

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posted December 01, 2019 07:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for rainyvirgo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LionFish:
I know it was mentioned already, but May 3rd looks like a really great day..

The dates that fall available in those last months of the year pose a situation I'm not too particularly fond of and that's that Jupiter/Pluto/Saturn stellium square Mars in Aries.

Do you HAVE to get married in 2020? And if so, can it be on May 3rd? Lol


Honestly May 3rd sounds amazing because spring is my favorite, and I always visualized a spring wedding, AND I love the signs in spring, but I’m afraid it’s too soon after the legal “wedding” in March and his visa most likely won’t be processed yet. Sorry I was typing the last reply before you posted this and I just saw it

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posted December 01, 2019 07:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for rainyvirgo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
But yeah I guess 2021 I wouldn’t mind, it would give me more time to plan the perfect wedding, and also maybe finish beauty school too

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posted December 01, 2019 07:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for rainyvirgo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I’m crap at finding wedding charts I guess, yikes, thanks for helping me you guys

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posted December 01, 2019 09:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for athenaia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I completely endorse all the ideas LionFish is throwing out for sure! I was also looking at October 2020 and like her I'm really iffy about Mars in Aries squaring that massive Capricorn stellium. Since your fiance has an Aries Moon, it might be best to avoid the Cancer-Capricorn axis is my thought now..

A little unconventional but a date that caught my eye is this one:

March 12th 2021 (Friday though)
Sun in Pisces
Moon in Pisces
Venus in Pisces (exalted)
Neptune in Pisces

Mars loosely conjunct NN in Gemini
Juno conjunct SN and Eros in Sagittarius

This date is also pretty awesome in my opinion:

April 11th, 2021

Sun in Aries
Moon in Aries
Venus in Aries
Mercury in Aries
Saturn in Aqua trine NN in Gemini

The dates for April 25 are tricky as this is when Sun in Taurus is moving towards Uranus in Taurus again, so April 25th is actually a pretty cool chart (Sun in Taurus, Moon in Libra - very Venusian) but the Sun and Venus are in close orb with Uranus so I'm hesitant to select this one

May 16th 2021 is cute too

Sun in Taurus (out of orb from Uranus)
Moon and Mars in Cancer
Mercury and Venus conjunct NN in Gemini
Sun exactly trine Pluto
If you select 4pm then the Moon is exactly trine Neptune

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posted December 01, 2019 09:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for rainyvirgo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I’m so sad. Literally wish I was Protestant or something so I could have a wedding whenever the frick I wanted and then convert back to orthodoxy 😭😭😭

All of those dates are during freaking lent

I AM SO SAD I especially love the date with all the freaking Pisceesssssss

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posted December 01, 2019 09:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for rainyvirgo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ooooooo I do love May 16th. I’m gonna look at it. I just saw that for some reason I read it wrong before I replied

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posted December 01, 2019 09:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for rainyvirgo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuugggggg. I love May 16th but my man is really unhappy about waiting that long. I just tried to tell him and now he’s like “I’m just going pick a date and it have nothing to do with astrology, I’m not waiting that long, it’s just going to keep getting pushed back”

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posted December 01, 2019 11:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LionFish     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, if day of the week doesn't matter (like before your classes start in September, that opens some things up. And I would say people probably have to schedule time off to come anyway..

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