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ChildofVenus
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posted December 04, 2019 10:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My friend had a breakdown yesterday he said that he has reached his breaking point. I asked him if he was ok he said no but won't tell me what's wrong I'm worried about him.

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posted December 04, 2019 11:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mztiny     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

If his birth time is correct. He has Natal Sun square his ascendent. Pluto is coming up to Trine his Sun. This will affect him (the physical body and personality) and cause some deep rooted issues to come up.

Be supportive but stay at a distance, Pluto needs to do it's work.

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posted December 04, 2019 11:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by mztiny:

If his birth time is correct. He has Natal Sun square his ascendent. Pluto is coming up to Trine his Sun. This will affect him (the physical body and personality) and cause some deep rooted issues to come up.

Be supportive but stay at a distance, Pluto needs to do it's work.


It's hard because we are close but I'm trying to keep my distance.

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posted December 04, 2019 02:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I very rarely look at transits because hard ones come and go, as do easy ones. I am not talking to his case, as Pluto does shake up what it touches.

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posted December 04, 2019 02:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MoonMystic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello Childofvenus,
I'm sorry this has happened for your friend. I agree with mztiny. It might be a bumpy time for your friend but Pluto will remove what is causing the pain. It just can be abrasive while it processes. For me I have tr Pluto just within my 2nd now so I understand that place your friend has it. In my case my hard work on myself was lost during that portion of my 1h tr Pluto, battling physical issues.
It has been a rough few years for me. House 2 will be a harsh feeling too from what I've read. Hopefully Saturn will protect me and your friend, all of us (depending on where it is in their charts) !. Some of Pluto energy isn't so bad. Looking back it can make us reexamine what matters most. (Their Desire, needs)
Just be a good listener and give them space if that's what they need.

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posted December 04, 2019 11:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks everyone I told him that heíll be ok and that heís just going through a transformation.

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posted December 04, 2019 11:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stawr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It looks like he also is having Pluto square his mercury and Uranus.

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posted December 05, 2019 03:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for StubbornVirgo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In short, yes. Pluto in the 12th is rough, too. If I had to guess, I would say that this has been long overdue for your friend. You're probably only seeing the surface of what he's dealing with. Virgos don't like to show all their cards.

I would say be supportive, but it sounds like you already are. Thank you for that.

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posted December 05, 2019 04:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for TaurusVenusGirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was born with Pluto in my 12H..Then at 14 yo it transit over my ASC... Pluto was brutal for me for those early years of my life.. It did get much better though when it was 8 degrees away from my ASC.. from my experience its the worst thing ever to live through... Its probably much easier for your friend now even though he still might be struggling..

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posted December 05, 2019 07:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I kind of had a breakdown at the age of fifteen, after pluto had been transiting my first house for years. I dropped out of school, rather than hurting myself over things that were going on.

I had Saturn and Pluto opposing my Mercury/Ceres/Chiron/Sun from the 12th, before it crossed my ascendant. I progressively became quieter/more withdrawn during those years. I remember my friend D, knocking on the door and asking me to go outside with him and our friends. I was spending more time napping after school, and hiding under my quilt. Having anxiety attacks, and missing a lot of school (social anxiety was also really bad).

But, I think Pluto also helped me to remain true to myself, after a while, when it came to things like peer pressure. I don't see the whole transit as bad.

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posted December 05, 2019 02:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kannon McAfee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
By itself, not necessarily. But what your friend is experiencing is transiting Saturn & Pluto at 22į south declination parallel natal Moon. That Pluto is in the 1st house makes it hit harder on a personal level. That Pluto is also square his natal Mercury makes it even harder on mental health.

Saturn & Pluto making major hard transits to both natal Moon & Mercury is about the hardest transiting pairing for mental health.

Try to be as supportive and encouraging as you can. It is a really tough time for him.

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posted December 05, 2019 11:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stawr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Or so it is at 22 degrees now. Iím a 22 degree Aries. I have been quite emotionally disturbed lately at work.
Huge clashing with the boss on occasion to the point where I experience despising her. I have raised my voice to her.

I feel like I need anger management to stay at this job sometimes. I started to get an attitude with her. I have experienced seeing red when she wonít go away.

Since 2015 Iíve had to be around overbearing people at my job no matter where I go. (Neptune in 10th house transit)

Thank God I can hide out for two weeks durning this transit.

Thatís awful to hear that Pluto in 1st house is worse. It must be identify hell.

Half the time I am in clashing with the boss hell, and trying not to snap anymore worse than I already have.

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posted December 06, 2019 01:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astra     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have both Pluto and Saturn transiting my first house. I reached my breaking point in June of this year, so I made a drastic change and my life is wonderful now.

Pluto is about change and transformation, so your friend just needs to pinpoint what is making them miserable and do something about it.

The good news is Pluto in the 1st is much easier to handle than Pluto in the 12th.

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posted December 07, 2019 12:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
We had a long talk on the phone the other night. He's going through a lot and also things with his family. I'm glad we talked I think he really needed to vent. I've been helping with getting some stuff in order. So hopefully things will get better for him soon I hope so because it's been rough.

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