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DannyCappy
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posted December 06, 2019 12:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DannyCappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Pereya:
Do you have an aspect between Pluto & Vertex? Any?


No I dont.

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hypatia238
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posted December 06, 2019 01:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by DannyCappy:
How do I know what kind of shadow work needs to be done?

Well first you talk about how obsession manifests in your life, what triggers obsession in you, that is the first step. What is the motor sucking you into a negative cycle of obsession and chasing after X? as when you obsess you are usually chasing after something, seeking or worrying. Integrative psychotherapy would be a good fit for doing shadow work.

What do you obsess about? DO you worry obsessively or think about someone obsessively?

Scorpio may think about someone obsessively.

Cappy may worry about something obsessively.

So when you say you are obsessed what exactly are you talking about?

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posted December 06, 2019 01:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I will say this having Neptune and Uranus in the 8th is enough to make you obsessive, since they rule the 9th house and 10th house maybe you obsess about your career and world issues or about higher learning, getting a degree, school work.

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posted December 06, 2019 02:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cthonicstar     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Agree, I was wondering what kind of obsessions too for the signs since they are different energies?

Constructive obsession= commitment
Destructive obsession= addiction
Passionate obsession= driven/intense
Inappropriate obsession= creeping

The list goes on.

Capricorns are known for commitment; Scorpios are infamous for intensity/drive. Both have drive with propensity for addiction.

However, would it be safe to say that Capricorns tend to obsess about external/material/tangible things while Scorpios obsess about internal/abstract/metaphysical/intangible things and that this is what distinguishes one from the other?

This relates to the tarot meanings: Capricorn is associated with Devil in most decks. Could this be because of the focus on earthly matters just as the Devil is?

On the other hand, Scorpio is represented by Death which is obsession with the internal/metaphysical and a desire to transform/rebirth.

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DannyCappy
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posted December 06, 2019 02:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DannyCappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by hypatia238:
Well first you talk about how obsession manifests in your life, what triggers obsession in you, that is the first step. What is the motor sucking you into a negative cycle of obsession and chasing after X? as when you obsess you are usually chasing after something, seeking or worrying. Integrative psychotherapy would be a good fit for doing shadow work.The problem with self awareness is that you end up seeing all your insecurities.

What do you obsess about? DO you worry obsessively or think about someone obsessively?

Scorpio may think about someone obsessively.

Cappy may worry about something obsessively.

So when you say you are obsessed what exactly are you talking about?


Thanks a lot for you help.I think my obsession is especially due to my fear of uncertainty and fear of getting hurt.So I can't stop thinking about the possibilities with that person if its going to work or not which makes me obsessed with them.Urg I hate it.I cant stop thinking about them.

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hypatia238
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posted December 06, 2019 11:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by DannyCappy:
Thanks a lot for you help.I think my obsession is especially due to my fear of uncertainty and fear of getting hurt.So I can't stop thinking about the possibilities with that person if its going to work or not which makes me obsessed with them.Urg I hate it.I cant stop thinking about them.

Does your Neptune or Uranus aspect your Venus or 7H ruler?

This reminds me of this Cappy with venus/moon/uranus in scorpio I knew.

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posted December 07, 2019 03:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sassaqua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

cthonicstar, yes, this is my point also, ie, it maybe needs defining if we are to get into specifics.

Capricorn are very strategic. This is the angle that I take with how they may be considered "obsessive". The commitment then therein, with their planning.

Although yes, material things are worth considering, but this is so too with Taurus? Perhaps more so even?

I have considered rather then that Capricorn's association with Devil [ie, Saturn (Saturn/Satan)] because of the rulership over time.

I do think it's complex, but, simply put: that time (Saturn) is the element that locks us humans into the material plane. And therefore, away from our eternal-ness. Thus we are enslaved in matter.

I think there is more to add but this is perhaps part of it in my considerations.

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posted December 07, 2019 12:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DannyCappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by hypatia238:
Does your Neptune or Uranus aspect your Venus or 7H ruler?

This reminds me of this Cappy with venus/moon/uranus in scorpio I knew.


Yeah!!!
Neptune/Uranus semi square venus
Neptune/Uranus square 7th house ruler


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hypatia238
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posted December 07, 2019 02:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by DannyCappy:
Yeah!!!
Neptune/Uranus semi square venus
Neptune/Uranus square 7th house ruler

Bingo, there you go

That is were the obsessive side comes from.

With these aspects you are suppose to learn about power in relationships, how not to misuse power you may not even be aware you have over others you choose to connect with at a deeper level and how to not give away too much of your power to others you connect with deeply. When you figure this out the obsessive tendencies that come along with these placements/aspects will transmute and start to manifest in a more positive empowering way. With 7th house aspect 8th house stuff there is also a lesson around learning not to OVER-value others and over-focus on others and lose yourself in others. You gain your power back when you realize your worth and start to value yourself more and find a healthy balance between valuing others and valuing yourself, you learn that the most important relationship in your life is the one with yourself and that you have your own back and you will always have yourself. All this ofcourse while you value equally all the different types of connections you have in your life and learn not to overvalue for example romantic love over other connections ect...

I have venus conjunct mars in the 8th and it has been quite a very long journey for me of personal transformation that is all coming to a head this past year with transit pluto now at the very end of my 1H also conjuncting my 2nd house.

I would say that also with sun in Capricorn you don't feel comfortable taking risks at all but with your 7TH house ruler aspecting two generational planets in the 8th house you are been called to take big risks in relationships bc it will help you grow and evolve and eventually set you free as you learn not to live in fear or love with excessive fear. You are been called to confront your fear of loss and learn to enjoy relationships for how ever long they are meant to last without any expectations.

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posted December 07, 2019 02:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
When you integrate the life lessons you came here to learn life gets a lot better and easier, you flow and learn to live in the moment. Put on your favorite music and Dance.

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GalacticCoreExplosion
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posted December 07, 2019 09:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GalacticCoreExplosion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Has this always been the case, or has it increased of late?

T. Pluto has been going through Capricorn since 2008. For folks with early to mid, sensitive Capricorn placements, Pluto going over same can temporarily outline a more "Scorpio like" attunement.

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posted December 12, 2019 05:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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