posted December 05, 2019 04:25 PM            

I can understand Saturn - and therefore Cap - being obsessive.

Saturn is time and matter: therefore, long term planning and strategising for material outcomes is Saturn's domain.

For an outcome to materialise a complex plan that involves time, and the possibility of practical matters interfering with the desired outcome must be accounted for. This is known as timelining and probability speculation. A lot of effort and mental commitment is applied to seeing an outcome materialise (for example: whether a business goal or romantic target).

The mind then could easily become "obsessed" with such timelining:
1. with the amount of planning required over a time frame, and with many moving parts to consider, account for, and possibly negate (time and matter)
2. as time passes, and much effort has been contributed, the greater the mental attachment to the outcome becomes.

Have you ever planned for something and the more you put into it, the more anxious you get about things working out? This is because of the commitment and investment you've already put in over time. And why and how Saturn is so recognised as the glue in relationships.

posted December 05, 2019 04:29 PM            

A Satyr is half man, half goat, and in antiquity, was an entity that was responsible for sexual carnality/earthly delights. A Capricorn is essentially represented as a seagoat.

posted December 05, 2019 05:11 PM            

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Originally posted by DannyCappy:
No I dont have any of this and I get easily obsessed 😬

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Well then you probably have stuff in your 8th house.

posted December 05, 2019 05:38 PM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
Well then you probably have stuff in your 8th house.

Do you?

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posted December 05, 2019 05:43 PM            

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Originally posted by athenaia:
I'd say the primary reason the Devil is associated with Capricorn in Tarot is because the imagery of the card is a Satyr.

A Satyr is half man, half goat, and in antiquity, was an entity that was responsible for sexual carnality/earthly delights. A Capricorn is essentially represented as a seagoat.

Rather than obsession or jealousy, I do tend to think of the Devil card as raw sexuality/unrestrained sensuality. Mars is exalted in Capricorn afterall.

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posted December 05, 2019 05:55 PM            

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Originally posted by DannyCappy:
Outer planets only..neptune and uranus.Its a horrible feeling for me.I feel really consumed.

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What does Neptune and Uranus rule in your chart?

posted December 05, 2019 07:10 PM            

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Originally posted by anska5:
I'm extreeemly capricornian and saturn heavy. Sun, mercury and venus in cap, saturn in 1st, plus sun and mercury opposite saturn. Nothing in scorpio except uranus...BUT even my scorpio friends call me intense :-) Definitely very obsessive personality, I'd say I look very much like a classic capricorn, but emotionally I fit the description of a moon in scorpio (but I'm actually moon in virgo). My explanation is I have sun square pluto and ascendant square pluto, pluto sits in my 4th house together with ascendant ruler moon. But I think the most decisive factor to me may be that pluto is the focal point of my natal t-square. So in your case, what kind of aspects does pluto make in your chart, and what's it's placement? I'd also take a look whether it is an important part of a major configuration like a t-square.

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I've never considered Caps as intense.

posted December 05, 2019 09:47 PM            

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Originally posted by DannyCappy:
Hummm..sassaqua that makes sense.

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Sorry, doesn't it makes sense? It was very early morning

Caps like to strategise, that's all. And they commit to their plans, and so can become "obsessive".

Obsessive is different to intense.

posted December 05, 2019 11:11 PM            

Thank God I have a break from work and college around the corner.

I have the Capricorn stellulum of Uranus and Neptune in my 8th house plus Saturn in my 9th house.
Scorpio Moon conjunct pluto in house 6th

posted December 05, 2019 11:23 PM            

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Originally posted by anska5:
I'm extreeemly capricornian and saturn heavy. Sun, mercury and venus in cap, saturn in 1st, plus sun and mercury opposite saturn. Nothing in scorpio except uranus...BUT even my scorpio friends call me intense :-) Definitely very obsessive personality, I'd say I look very much like a classic capricorn, but emotionally I fit the description of a moon in scorpio (but I'm actually moon in virgo). My explanation is I have sun square pluto and ascendant square pluto, pluto sits in my 4th house together with ascendant ruler moon. But I think the most decisive factor to me may be that pluto is the focal point of my natal t-square. So in your case, what kind of aspects does pluto make in your chart, and what's it's placement? I'd also take a look whether it is an important part of a major configuration like a t-square.

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Cool!! I dont think I'm intense but the obsession is pretty real and annoying lol I just have an inconjuction between moon and pluto.

posted December 05, 2019 11:27 PM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
What does Neptune and Uranus rule in your chart?

Is your mercury aspecting Pluto? or parallel pluto?

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posted December 05, 2019 11:35 PM            

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Originally posted by sassaqua:
Sorry, doesn't it makes sense? It was very early morning

Caps like to strategise, that's all. And they commit to their plans, and so can become "obsessive".

Obsessive is different to intense.

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posted December 06, 2019 02:17 AM            

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Originally posted by sassaqua:
Sorry, doesn't it makes sense? It was very early morning

Caps like to strategise, that's all. And they commit to their plans, and so can become "obsessive".

Obsessive is different to intense.

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That is what I call determination which yes a significant percentage of Caps are determined but most are not obsessive unless they are plutonic.

Obsession has to do with desire and has a compulsive quality and addictive traits, its different from determination which comes from a more sober and grounded internal space.

posted December 06, 2019 03:18 AM            

I may agree, but I think this definition could be splitting hairs a bit.

Most people would not have such a fine distinction on the definition and could easily label Capricorn's "dedication" as obsessive. Correctly or not.

In synastry IMO, when those Saturn aspects kicks in, you could definitely view Saturn's response - or dedication - as obsessive.

posted December 06, 2019 04:46 AM            

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Originally posted by DannyCappy:
I think what you said makes sense that's what I'm saying but I get obsessed with people too which sucks.Plutonic folks do you get obsessed with people?

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Do you have an aspect between Pluto & Vertex? Any?

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posted December 06, 2019 06:20 AM            

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Originally posted by TaurusVenusGirl:

I've never considered Caps as intense.

I have 3 placements in Scorpio and 2 planets in my 8H. I am definitely a Plutonic person. I get told a lot that I am intense. Very obsessive.. I have no Capricorn in my chart..

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Hi TaurusVenusGirl,

posted December 06, 2019 12:54 PM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
That is what I call determination which yes a significant percentage of Caps are determined but most are not obsessive unless they are plutonic.

Obsession has to do with desire and has a compulsive quality and addictive traits, its different from determination which comes from a more sober and grounded internal space.

Obsession hints to your shadow side and lights up for you what kind of shadow work you need to get done, if you do the work it leads to transformation. Determination comes from a place of clarity and discipline.

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