posted December 18, 2019 01:35 PM            

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Originally posted by ChildofVenus:
Water dom people are overly emotional and too sensitive.

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posted December 18, 2019 02:17 PM            

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Originally posted by kani:
I'm water dominant and I'm neither. By far the most emotional, sensitive and touchy person I know is someone who has no personal planets in water at all and an aquarius moon. He is 100 times more emotional than me who is a Pisces sun and Cancer moon. I'm really starting to believe elements are not the most important thing in one's natal.

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Rather it goes deeper ime/o.

Let's compare someone that has Pisces Sun and Cancer Moon, but also say Mercury closely conjunct their Ascendant

Vs say someone with Gemini Sun and Aqua Moon, but Moon closely conjunct their Ascendant.

If you asked many who would tend to be more emotional and emotionally driven as an overall trend, I suspect many would say the Pisces Sun, Cancer Moon person.

Yet, I would say the Gemini Sun, Aqua Moon person.

The reason why is simple. Planetary energy is stronger than Sign, and the Moon being so strong in the second person's chart, would dominate their Air etc, and they would be VERY Lunar attuned and thus very emotional.

And even if they didn't have any Water Signs in their chart, or just say like Uranus or Pluto, they would still would be very water attuned because the Moon is very water attuned.

I am friends with a guy who has Leo Sun, Cancer Ascendant with his ruling Planet, the Moon, in Libra conjunct Venus. You would think he might be moderately to highly emotional.

But, he has Cancer Mercury conjunct his Ascendant and perhaps not too surprisingly, he is quite cerebral in attunement, and loves things like data analysis. This isn't to say that he doesn't have some attunement to emotions and feelings, because he does. But he is more intellect oriented than you would think. And it's all about that powerful Mercury highlighting.

He is also thinner and a bit taller than the archetypal Cancer Rising. He has a hard time building muscle easily, though he works at it. I'm more muscular than him (Leo Rising with Sun trine Mars Jupiter conjunction) and work much less at it than he does.

Having been on a number of astrology forums, it's clear to me over a number of years, that a lot of people are missing some pretty important fundamentals in astrology, such as 1. Planetary energy is more concentrated and stronger than Sign when it's strongly highlighted.

2. Elements and elemental "weight" goes far beyond just Sign and their obvious elements.

3. the utmost importance of the strongest/most highlighted Planet (often, but not always the Planet closest to the Ascendant, especially if also in the 1st or conjunct the Ascendant, or if no Planet is anywhere near same, but there is one near the Mid Heaven than the one closest to same).

(Less important, but still noticeable is how people don't understand how the body is ruled by the Ascendant and it's related factors, but hard to blame them on that one when a percentage of people aren't using an accurate chart and thus don't have an accurate Rising to start from.)

posted December 18, 2019 02:55 PM            

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Originally posted by kani:
I'm water dominant and I'm neither. By far the most emotional, sensitive and touchy person I know is someone who has no personal planets in water at all and an aquarius moon. He is 100 times more emotional than me who is a Pisces sun and Cancer moon. I'm really starting to believe elements are not the most important thing in one's natal.

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posted December 24, 2019 03:03 AM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
Does Saturn aspect her aquarius stellium?

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posted December 24, 2019 03:07 AM            

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Originally posted by GalacticCoreExplosion:
For this self, it's both. Venus, ruler of the Moon, MC, 3rd, and Pluto is in Aquarius in the 7th sextile Sag Neptune with 11 seconds separation, Pisces South Node in the 7th, Jupiter in the 1st/closest Planet to Ascendant, Neptune in the 5th trine Ascendant (I consider the 5th the next most amplifying area of the chart after the Angles) with Saturn faster moving ruler of Sun, Mercury, Venus, and Descendant square it, Moon ruler of the 12th conjunct Saturn. Neptune is parallel the chart ruler the Sun. Uranus is Angular and in closish aspect to Saturn, widely sextile Sun.

Growing up, I always felt more like a combo of a Pisces and Aquarius than a Capricorn when I only knew about signs. The only thing that seemed Capricorn about me at the time was that I was quiet, shy, and reserved. I've grown to become somewhat more Capricornian in some ways--I have a very pragmatic side, but tempered with very strong spiritual ideals and awareness.

But in some ways, I'm more Aquarian than my partner.

I've lived at an intentional community before, and if we ever find the right one, we'll likely move to one in the future,

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posted December 24, 2019 03:16 AM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
We often talk about the archetype of a sign or planet and not someone's individual chart. Once you break down a chart a lot can change because of house placement and aspects. You are definitely extremely neptunian with a stellium in the 12th house and sun in Pisces and the ruler of your stellium Uranus conjuncting your Neptune, you are super neptunian, not Uranian.

As for your cousin who is super religious and modest my guess is that Saturn is aspecting her aquarius stellium or that her stellium conjuncts her 9H ruler and falls in the 9H, something along those lines, every time there is a stellium involved that means there are more rulers involved altering the expression and that the house placement will take extra strength in the expression etc.

That been said we definitely need to be careful not to assume that because someone has a stellium in a sign that they are going to be a good representation of the archeytype of that sign as someone with a stellium in Leo in the 8H may be more plutonian than someone with a stellium in scorpio in the 9H.

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posted December 24, 2019 03:17 AM            

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Originally posted by ChildofVenus:
I have Venus in Pisces which is exalted and that doesn’t override my Aquarius Moon. But I do have Venus square Uranus.

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posted December 24, 2019 03:31 AM            

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Originally posted by Lalafortunaea:
Hi, Uranus dom here.

Who says being detached is always wrong? Sometimes it's needed. It doesn't have to be a bad thing.
Who says being cold is always wrong? In a crisis, you need to keep your cool. Sometimes you need to ignore someone's personal subjective feelings in order to do what must be done.

Highly emotionally driven people who need to have their own feelings validated and projected back to them will almost always see those qualities as a bad thing. It's just a fact of life. Can't force everyone to conform or agree.

Imagine the scene of a teenager throwing a moody tantrum while the parents do not react at the same level as the teen and remain calm. Extrapolate this scenario and analyze it a bit more and you'll understand Aquarius a bit better.

Freaking out and being emotional doesn't always mean you truly care either.

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Hi Lalafotunaea, I haven't seen you in a while I remember all the times you have replied to my threads because it always helped me feel better. Hope you are doing okay (:

Uranus is also my dominant planet on astro website. Although Im not 100 percent sure it is because different website say something different, but with that said I mean I can see how it can be useful, and how it's probably best to have balance of having emotion but also remaining calm. I agree with you that just because someone is emotional doesn't mean they truly care. I know a few people like this.
The thing that I find frustrating and pretty sad is the fact that it is constantly said that Aquarius (especially moon)are cold and detached. Not in like a calm and composed detached but apathetic detached. Maybe it true for some, but I don't think it's always true. Especially because I know people from my experience can be pretty cold and they don't have Aqua placements. The way Aqua is described is like a robot.
I think having empathy and compassion is the most important part, not necessarily being overly emotional. I wouldn't want to imagine being that way cause that is awful. I would hate to not feel and be mean and insensitive. And even if I feel that Im not cold or detached from my emotions now, or even since I was young, people sometimes say sometimes to me that I probably just haven't grown into my moon sign yet but it's kind of scary because I don't want to be the way Aqua's are described or stereotyped. Not necessarily the fact that they aren't emotional, but that they are apathetic. I think I remember you have a Pisces moon? Luckily Pisces moons don't have to worry about detachment labels even if you have Uranus as a dominant planet you have that good balance of what you said. You might not be super emotional but have compassion, which is the most important part. Water moons or even fire moons don't have to worry about the cold hearted view from others. I asked somebody to roast me one time, I know I was probably asking for it, but I didn't expect them to say what they said it is almost disturbing to me, I don't even want to repeat what they said to roast me, but it was mostly based on my Aqua moon and stellium and them thinking I have these sociopath tendencies cause of it. For some people it's not a bad thing, in fact I know some Cancers that hate their stereotype of being crybabies, but for me I'd rather be labeled a crybaby than a sociopath or something.
I think people associate Aquas distance as coldness. But I wish people understood that just because we have trouble opening up doesn't mean we don't feel anything. For me Im pretty shy so it's hard for me to feel comfortable with just anyone.

posted December 24, 2019 03:58 AM            

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Originally posted by GalacticCoreExplosion:
You said that you have Aqua Rising and Moon?

The combination of strong Moon, strong Pisces, and strong Aquarius though, would likely indicate someone who is very much for and caring about the "underdogs" in life, especially any being or person that seems defenseless or innocent.

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Yes! Im a lot like this! I resonate with that a lot. Even when I was little I always felt for the defenseless or innocent.

Also very strange I remember seeing this picture where it shows stick figures at the end of a railroad with an oncoming train that split into two. One end had a whole group of people, the other had only one by itself. The picture asked which one would you be more likely to save , for me I wanted to save the one person by itself. But the question revealed more people would be apt to save the whole group of people than just the one. But I would feel bad leaving that one person to fend for themselves. I guess not many people feel the same way, so I guess that's where the Uranian comes in, Im strange in that way.I don't share the same views as a lot of people. And I actually don't like it because it makes me feel even more left out and alone.

posted December 24, 2019 04:01 AM            

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Originally posted by kani:
I'm water dominant and I'm neither. By far the most emotional, sensitive and touchy person I know is someone who has no personal planets in water at all and an aquarius moon. He is 100 times more emotional than me who is a Pisces sun and Cancer moon. I'm really starting to believe elements are not the most important thing in one's natal.

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posted December 24, 2019 06:59 AM            

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Originally posted by SoulOfABird:
You don't have any planets in the 12th or 11th house?

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No, but they are highlighted in other ways. Mercury rules my 11th House and is widely conjunct my Sun, ruler of the 1st/chart ruler. Mercury is in the 5th which also indicates a boosting, which also highlights the 11th some as well. Then Mercury has a couple rather close aspects--a less than degree separation trine with the MC and with Jupiter--which is retrograding back into the 1st.

As regards the 12th, the Moon rules same, and is conjunct the faster moving ruler of the Sun, Mercury, Venus, and Descendant Signs (also 6th House). This highlights the Moon moderately and thus the 12th some as well.

posted December 24, 2019 07:32 AM            

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Originally posted by SoulOfABird:
My moon isn't really near my ascendent. It's in the 12th house. My ascendent is 25 degrees Aquarius and my moon is 10 degrees Aquarius.

Yes! Im a lot like this! I resonate with that a lot. Even when I was little I always felt for the defenseless or innocent.

Also very strange I remember seeing this picture where it shows stick figures at the end of a railroad with an oncoming train that split into two. One end had a whole group of people, the other had only one by itself. The picture asked which one would you be more likely to save , for me I wanted to save the one person by itself. But the question revealed more people would be apt to save the whole group of people than just the one. But I would feel bad leaving that one person to fend for themselves. I guess not many people feel the same way, so I guess that's where the Uranian comes in, Im strange in that way.I don't share the same views as a lot of people. And I actually don't like it because it makes me feel even more left out and alone.

I always want to help the people who are neglected and innocent and defenseless. I don't like when people are mean to nice people either. I especially have an affinity towards animals.

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I've found that often times, even just the Planet closest to the Ascendant, still represents the nonphysical dimension/consciousness level that we phased into this dimension from.

It seems clear and obvious that Lunar energy is fairly highlighted in your psyche, along with the Pisces and the Aquarius etc.

I don't know if this relates, but if these physical looks correlations apply then this would strongly imply that your spiritual birth time was a bit earlier and that in actuality, your Moon is conjunct the Ascendant degree. These are the physical correlations (not cause), a more roundish face, unusually endowed chest wise, paler eyes and/or skin relative to your family or ethnicity, slowish metabolism, etc that is common with the Moon conjunct the Ascendant, along with the greater personalness, sympathy, emotionality, changeability, strong femininity, past identification, strongly influenced by mother figure (for weal or woe depending), etc that goes along personality and character wise.

Differences of 10 to even 60 degrees +/- is fairly common in the differences between the physical and spiritual birth times.

But if the above (physical correlations) do not apply, again, the Moon just being relatively close to your Ascendant as compared to other Planets, can also indicate it being highlighted, which won't be correlated physically, but will be on a personality and/or character level.

posted December 27, 2019 03:49 AM            

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Originally posted by GalacticCoreExplosion:
I've found that often times, even just the Planet closest to the Ascendant, still represents the nonphysical dimension/consciousness level that we phased into this dimension from.

It seems clear and obvious that Lunar energy is fairly highlighted in your psyche, along with the Pisces and the Aquarius etc.

I don't know if this relates, but if these physical looks correlations apply then this would strongly imply that your spiritual birth time was a bit earlier and that in actuality, your Moon is conjunct the Ascendant degree. These are the physical correlations (not cause), a more roundish face, unusually endowed chest wise, paler eyes and/or skin relative to your family or ethnicity, slowish metabolism, etc that is common with the Moon conjunct the Ascendant, along with the greater personalness, sympathy, emotionality, changeability, strong femininity, past identification, strongly influenced by mother figure (for weal or woe depending), etc that goes along personality and character wise.

Differences of 10 to even 60 degrees +/- is fairly common in the differences between the physical and spiritual birth times.

But if the above (physical correlations) do not apply, again, the Moon just being relatively close to your Ascendant as compared to other Planets, can also indicate it being highlighted, [b]which won't be correlated physically, but will be on a personality and/or character level.

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hmm yeah I don't really look like that, Im pretty much the opposite lol I am not the darkest in my family but not the lightest either, I have olive skin and black hair. My face is oval shaped and Im thin smaller bust and just a little shorter than average. People on astrology forums usually mistaken me as Sag, Virgo, or Scorpio rising for some reason.

posted December 28, 2019 02:29 PM            

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Originally posted by SoulOfABird:
What house is your moon in and what aspects does it make?

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I have Moon in the 6th house and I love the idea of helping other people. Those who can't help themselves. Like helping the homeless or those who are less fortunate and animals too. Most people think that those with Moon in Aquarius don't have feelings but we do.

posted December 29, 2019 06:17 PM            

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Originally posted by SoulOfABird:
hmm yeah I don't really look like that, Im pretty much the opposite lol I am not the darkest in my family but not the lightest either, I have olive skin and black hair. My face is oval shaped and Im thin smaller bust and just a little shorter than average. People on astrology forums usually mistaken me as Sag, Virgo, or Scorpio rising for some reason.

But if possible that I was born earlier, that would probably make my moon conjunct Neptune. Since Neptune almost conjuncted my moon but missed by a couple of degrees, so maybe that is possible?

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Yeah, it doesn't sound like the Moon is close enough to your Ascendant to correlate with your looks. But like I said, often times, even just having a Planet being the closest to the Ascendant is enough to show a strong highlighting of it in the chart and psyche.

posted January 03, 2020 02:03 PM            

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Originally posted by Electro DGX:
I have a massive Aquarius Stellium in my chart, "Sun, Mercury, Venus, Uranus, Neptune, and South Node," all in Aquarius. I don't really care that much about people's negative opinions on my sign. If these people are going to treat me based on a shallow prejudiced notion that came to their mind based on my sun sign, I don't need to associate with those people.

I'm also a Gemini Moon in the 8th house opposite Pluto exact (0°01'). Ever since I've started studying astrology I've never felt like a Gemini Moon and I've struggled to see how it fits with me. I also have an exact Mars-ASC conjunction in Scorpio at 0 degrees. I've always resonated with that more and often times will just refer to myself as a Hades Moon instead.

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posted January 03, 2020 05:11 PM            

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Originally posted by Lalafortunaea:
What's your draconic moon? Maybe could be more accurate.

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My Draconic Moon is in Capricorn.