posted December 14, 2019 09:59 PM            

You are neptunian, your aquarius energy manifests in a neptunian way even though you have a stellium in aquarius bc you are a pisces and this stellium falls in the 12th house which is the house of pisces, you definitely do not represent the archetype of Aquarius or Uranus hence why you do not relate to it all, aspects and house placements over-ride signs.

This all been said which points out that you are neptunian and not Uranian I must add that the Uranus/Aquarius archetype is the bomb. Uranus is the planet of change and change pushes us to evolve and move forward. If there wasn't people shaking up the system, questioning and challenging the status quo or rebelling we would all still be cave men and women and women's soul purpose would be having children.

Compassion and sensitivity are very much a water house, neptune and pisces thing!

posted December 15, 2019 09:13 AM            

Who says being detached is always wrong? Sometimes it's needed. It doesn't have to be a bad thing.
Who says being cold is always wrong? In a crisis, you need to keep your cool. Sometimes you need to ignore someone's personal subjective feelings in order to do what must be done.

Highly emotionally driven people who need to have their own feelings validated and projected back to them will almost always see those qualities as a bad thing. It's just a fact of life. Can't force everyone to conform or agree.

Imagine the scene of a teenager throwing a moody tantrum while the parents do not react at the same level as the teen and remain calm. Extrapolate this scenario and analyze it a bit more and you'll understand Aquarius a bit better.

posted December 15, 2019 11:19 AM            

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Originally posted by Lalafortunaea:
Hi, Uranus dom here.

Who says being detached is always wrong? Sometimes it's needed. It doesn't have to be a bad thing.
Who says being cold is always wrong? In a crisis, you need to keep your cool. Sometimes you need to ignore someone's personal subjective feelings in order to do what must be done.

Highly emotionally driven people who need to have their own feelings validated and projected back to them will almost always see those qualities as a bad thing. It's just a fact of life. Can't force everyone to conform or agree.

Imagine the scene of a teenager throwing a moody tantrum while the parents do not react at the same level as the teen and remain calm. Extrapolate this scenario and analyze it a bit more and you'll understand Aquarius a bit better.

Freaking out and being emotional doesn't always mean you truly care either.

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posted December 15, 2019 12:50 PM            

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Originally posted by moongaze:
Haha really? And from my perspective, it always seemed like most people hold Aquarius to high esteem. The cool, ingenious, future-oriented, but also altruistic sign. Sounds like good traits to me. Aquarians tend to care about the collective. I suppose it's implied moreso than with individuals. That may be where the detachment stereotype comes in, when it involves one-on-one affairs. They do like their space and freedom. But they are idealistic, and once they have something to fight for that could serve the greater good, they give it their all, perhaps even making it their life's mission.

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posted December 16, 2019 10:18 AM            

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Originally posted by Aries Eagle:
Where is your Venus? Exalted Venus would override any coldness from Aqua Moon.

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posted December 16, 2019 10:31 AM            

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Originally posted by SoulOfABird:
As Aqua being my 2nd dominant sign, as it is my rising and my moon Im constantly seeing people talk about Aquarius as cold, detached, and heartless. I don't understand it. This is one of the many reasons why I hate my Aqua stellium. Everyone who posts a chart of someone who was a bad person, will blame any one placement they have in Aqua on that placement. I have no experience with Aqua personally but I can speak for myself when I say this. I have known some pretty cold people and they didn't have Aqua moon, sun, or rising.
I feel as though all my life I have been quite compassionate and sensitive actually. Am I perfect ? No but who is? God isn't even perfect. But I am not cold, detached, or heartless. I wish people would understand that it can be painful to have to constantly see a certain sign being bashed in such a way.

No we aren't all rebellious or super unconventional either. I hear people constantly associate everything "kinky" and out there weird and unspeakable things I don't even want to repeat are Aquarius. Stuff like that actually disturbs me, so Im not sure why people associate that with Aquarius.
Im not really sure why this happens.

But please understand that we do care a lot. And we do our best to help people in many ways. I help people and it makes me feel better. I don't deliberately hurt people and Im quite emotional actually.

Why? Why is Aquarius the sign that gets the most rap for being cold? I don't understand.
I can handle certain silly stereotypes like being weird or my sign being delusional. But being associated with cold detachment is another thing. At least for me I think that is the harshest insult.

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I think they mean in interpersonal relationships ie. Love relationships, marriage etc. There is something certainly very more "humanity" focused in Aqua than domestic.More communal than one on one.

Sag is similar is this regards.I think Sag can come across quite disingenuous in personal relations.But this does not have the same heavy "dismissive" energy as Saturn co-ruled Aqua.

I have a Moon in Aqu friend whom feels closer to me when there is tangible distance between us.

posted December 16, 2019 10:26 PM            

It's in the Soul stage Pisces where the necessary compassion and empathy for the messiness of humanity and especially individual humans comes up.

Speaking more of archetypes rather than actual people.

posted December 17, 2019 12:48 AM            

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Originally posted by Aries Eagle:
Where is your Venus? Exalted Venus would override any coldness from Aqua Moon.

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There is no need for one placement to override another, if its a cold weather, its a cold weather...

posted December 17, 2019 01:45 AM            

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Originally posted by GalacticCoreExplosion:
My partner, someone with Aqua Sun, Venus, and South Node said it pretty well about Aquarius, "I think Aquarius likes/cares about the idea of people/humanity more than they actually like/care about actual people (implied was in the individual sense)."

It's in the Soul stage Pisces where the necessary compassion and empathy for the messiness of humanity and especially individual humans comes up.

Speaking more of archetypes rather than actual people.

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posted December 17, 2019 01:54 AM            

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Originally posted by anonymidarkness:
There is no need for one placement to override another, if its a cold weather, its a cold weather...

Strangely, the warmest person I know is an aqua moon, maybe coz it conjuncted my Mars and it warmed me up eh, but she was rather warm to me, had a reputation for being an ice-queen though, dare I say it made me feel rather special considering the fact that she was warm to me, but she did blow hot and cold even then, and I didn't mind it a bit, its not the warmth I felt from Pisces moons though, its a different warmth, like Cappy Warmth is more practical lets say, but in her(Aqua Moon chica) case it was rather sensual(because of the conjunction maybe, and she also had Aqua Venus conjunct it which conjuncted my Mars exactly) and nuruturing .

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posted December 17, 2019 02:03 AM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
You are not an aquarius, you are a PISCES so lets start with that, you do have an aquarius stellium but isn't it in your 12th house? and Isn't your Uranus in mutual reception with your Neptune?

You are neptunian, your aquarius energy manifests in a neptunian way even though you have a stellium in aquarius bc you are a pisces and this stellium falls in the 12th house which is the house of pisces, you definitely do not represent the archetype of Aquarius or Uranus hence why you do not relate to it all, aspects and house placements over-ride signs.

This all been said which points out that you are neptunian and not Uranian I must add that the Uranus/Aquarius archetype is the bomb. Uranus is the planet of change and change pushes us to evolve and move forward. If there wasn't people shaking up the system, questioning and challenging the status quo or rebelling we would all still be cave men and women and women's soul purpose would be having children.

Compassion and sensitivity are very much a water house, neptune and pisces thing!

However, aquarius does care about people, they want to change the world bc they care about people.

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Wow I didn’t know that. Yes my Aquarius stellium is in the 12th house, moon, Jupiter, uranus, and neptune. Neptune and Uranus conjunct. House placements are still an enigma to me, I have a hard time understanding it. I thought house placements didn’t have much affect on how the planet is expressed but rather where it does but I still don’t get it lol. But Ive always felt like a Pisces ever since I was young. I would watch movies and be really sad watching them that Id ask my mom if it were a true story to reassure myself it’s just a movie. I would cry at night thinking about animals that would get killed. Internally I didn’t feel emotionless but people constantly say Aqua moons are cold so it got me wondering wow am I really? Ive never saw myself that way. Neither has my mom who knows me the best. Or even any of my family members. So I don’t know what type of Aquas people are meeting but it sounds pretty scary.

posted December 17, 2019 11:57 AM            

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Originally posted by SoulOfABird:
Wow I didn’t know that. Yes my Aquarius stellium is in the 12th house, moon, Jupiter, uranus, and neptune. Neptune and Uranus conjunct. House placements are still an enigma to me, I have a hard time understanding it. I thought house placements didn’t have much affect on how the planet is expressed but rather where it does but I still don’t get it lol. But Ive always felt like a Pisces ever since I was young. I would watch movies and be really sad watching them that Id ask my mom if it were a true story to reassure myself it’s just a movie. I would cry at night thinking about animals that would get killed. Internally I didn’t feel emotionless but people constantly say Aqua moons are cold so it got me wondering wow am I really? Ive never saw myself that way. Neither has my mom who knows me the best. Or even any of my family members. So I don’t know what type of Aquas people are meeting but it sounds pretty scary.

I suppose you are right it is good that they question things. But it’s just that I don’t think all of Aqua people are like that. Actually my 2nd cousin was born exactly a month before me, she has SO much Aquarius. Aqua sun, moon, venus, mercury, uranus, and Jupiter. Yet she’s very religious and modest and is already married! It’s crazy we’re the same age, I can’t imagine myself getting married just yet. I still feel so young. She’s not rebellious in fact her brother is more. And hes a Cancer sun Taurus moon and he wanted to escape his family’s religion.

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posted December 17, 2019 12:14 PM            

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Originally posted by SoulOfABird:
The problem is people generalize too much. You meet one Aqua and think they are all like that. I will say not many people truly get me to open up to them, and yes when I do it’s because you make me feel comfortable, which is rare. But it isn’t because what you guys are preceiving as detached. It’s because Im shy and scared to trust people Im always afraid of judgement. I feel very few people understand me (which is understandable cause I get that Im weird), so when I do open up (which I have) I end up regretting it because Im often disappointed by people. So it feels safer to keep things between myself and god. In fact I need god, when I don’t have god I feel lost. Because at the end of the day I still need someone to understand me.
So please don’t misunderstand our trouble opening up as coldness rather we need time to feel comfort and trust. Than we will show ourselves more and more slowly. It’s just I think Aqua is very misunderstood. It’s sad people think that you’re cold just because you arent an open book with everyone. I guess I have a different view of what coldness is.

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We often talk about the archetype of a sign or planet and not someone's individual chart. Once you break down a chart a lot can change because of house placement and aspects. You are definitely extremely neptunian with a stellium in the 12th house and sun in Pisces and the ruler of your stellium Uranus conjuncting your Neptune, you are super neptunian, not Uranian.

As for your cousin who is super religious and modest my guess is that Saturn is aspecting her aquarius stellium or that her stellium conjuncts her 9H ruler and falls in the 9H, something along those lines, every time there is a stellium involved that means there are more rulers involved altering the expression and that the house placement will take extra strength in the expression etc.

posted December 17, 2019 07:31 PM            

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For me it’s the opposite. I actually don’t like people/humanity as a whole, they can be cruel (not ever of course) I care more about certain individual people.

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For this self, it's both. Venus, ruler of the Moon, MC, 3rd, and Pluto is in Aquarius in the 7th sextile Sag Neptune with 11 seconds separation, Pisces South Node in the 7th, Jupiter in the 1st/closest Planet to Ascendant, Neptune in the 5th trine Ascendant (I consider the 5th the next most amplifying area of the chart after the Angles) with Saturn faster moving ruler of Sun, Mercury, Venus, and Descendant square it, Moon ruler of the 12th conjunct Saturn. Neptune is parallel the chart ruler the Sun. Uranus is Angular and in closish aspect to Saturn, widely sextile Sun.

Growing up, I always felt more like a combo of a Pisces and Aquarius than a Capricorn when I only knew about signs. The only thing that seemed Capricorn about me at the time was that I was quiet, shy, and reserved. I've grown to become somewhat more Capricornian in some ways--I have a very pragmatic side, but tempered with very strong spiritual ideals and awareness.

But in some ways, I'm more Aquarian than my partner.

I've lived at an intentional community before, and if we ever find the right one, we'll likely move to one in the future,

posted December 17, 2019 08:11 PM            

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posted December 18, 2019 03:16 AM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
"There is something certainly very more "humanity" focused in Aqua than domestic.More communal than one on one."

^^One of my favorite clients is an older lady who is a capricorn with venus in aquarius like my parents, the things this lady does on an ongoing basis to try to make a difference in STRANGERS life is the most touching thing I have ever heard, she is the epitome of someone who truly practices "random acts of kindness." I told her last time I saw her she should go into politics bc she is so passionate and you can tell she has thought it through, the logistics of things etc and truly cares and wants to make a difference. She is inspiring, has been through a lot too. She has actually sat in a bench and talked to a homeless person and really made them feel heard and seeing and then wrote a poem that gives you a real good glimpse of their soul.

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Yes yes yes. That is exactly what I mean by it. This friend I spoke of(Aqu Moon and rising) gets very emotional about politics, the state of the nation etc. But he is unlikely to shed a single tear for his immediate family.

Interestingly, I see this also being the case with people who have planets in the 11th or when the Moon(especially) is 11th from the house it rules etc.

posted December 18, 2019 08:11 AM            

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Originally posted by SoulOfABird:
The problem is people generalize too much. You meet one Aqua and think they are all like that. I will say not many people truly get me to open up to them, and yes when I do it’s because you make me feel comfortable, which is rare. But it isn’t because what you guys are preceiving as detached. It’s because Im shy and scared to trust people Im always afraid of judgement. I feel very few people understand me (which is understandable cause I get that Im weird), so when I do open up (which I have) I end up regretting it because Im often disappointed by people. So it feels safer to keep things between myself and god. In fact I need god, when I don’t have god I feel lost. Because at the end of the day I still need someone to understand me.
So please don’t misunderstand our trouble opening up as coldness rather we need time to feel comfort and trust. Than we will show ourselves more and more slowly. It’s just I think Aqua is very misunderstood. It’s sad people think that you’re cold just because you arent an open book with everyone. I guess I have a different view of what coldness is.

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posted December 18, 2019 08:27 AM            

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Originally posted by SoulOfABird:
For me it’s the opposite. I actually don’t like people/humanity as a whole, they can be cruel (not ever of course) I care more about certain individual people.

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You said that you have Aqua Rising and Moon?

Then it's likely that the Moon is near your Ascendant or in your 1st House?

If so, this would indicate that you are actually more Lunar attuned than Aqua attuned. The Moon is far, far, far more of a "personal" and emotionally attached symbol than Aquarius or even Pisces. The Moon is like a lower octave of Venus, or Venus is a higher octave of the Moon. The Moon is about personal connections even more than Venus. While she "cares", she has to feel some kinship or connection with the other to really care. She is both giving and yet selfish in that sense.

The combination of strong Moon, strong Pisces, and strong Aquarius though, would likely indicate someone who is very much for and caring about the "underdogs" in life, especially any being or person that seems defenseless or innocent.

Strong/highlighted Planetary energy is like a concentrated spot light of a specific color vs a more soft, diffuse, background lampshade light of certain color of the Signs.