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Sinder
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posted December 26, 2019 12:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sinder     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Please help.

Would there be any way of knowing?
It is a bit tricky as my moon is conj. my pluto, but in libra. So my emotions are both scorpionic and libran.

But I can trace it back for my wedding date.

Would it be more accurate if the Juno was on my 12th house that day? Since my wedding was really with out any fan fair and hidden from the people (except my mother and aunt) at a small house of worship, with just the priest and 2 witnesses?

Also would give me Uranus in 1st house. (what would it entail?)


Or would it be more accurate if Juno was around my Ascendant on my wedding day?
That would take the uranus in 2nd house. Unstable finances? Or something else?

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posted December 26, 2019 06:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SecretGeek     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What sign was your Progressive DSC in exactly when you were married?

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Sinder
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posted December 26, 2019 07:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sinder     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by SecretGeek:
What sign was your Progressive DSC in exactly when you were married?

Not sure.. because I am trying to find my desc and Asc.
So I would have to know what should I put my time as.

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Librapurr
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posted December 26, 2019 07:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Librapurr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I donít think you could determine your Rising based on one event and moon. Also, there are progressed Asc and Ascendant on your birth time. There are some astrologers who do it. I heard itís a complex procedure, they would need to trace at least several events from your life for it.
Also, moon conj Pluto could give you Scorpio emotions with any Rising sing. Rising is more about how you show yourself, generally, behave in society. You can read descriptions of Asc and determine what fits you better.

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Kannon McAfee
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posted December 27, 2019 12:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kannon McAfee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Read my descriptions of those two rising signs: http://kannonmcafee.wordpress.com/rising-signs/ It's often pretty easy to determine if it is really just between two rising signs. Take a look at my rectification page so you can see what it takes: http://kannonmcafee.wordpress.com/rectification/ ... that gets it to the specific degree, not just rising sign.

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Randall
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posted January 02, 2020 07:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bump!

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ana_bee
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posted January 16, 2020 03:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ana_bee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Online Calculator for Natal Chart Rectification
(Donít know how exact or Reliable this one is)
But you might try it, just for fun:

https://astro-app.net/apps-rectification.php?lang=EN

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Kannon McAfee
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posted January 16, 2020 04:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kannon McAfee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've tested that app. It's pretty much useless. It requires pretty narrow time windows of birth to have a chance at getting it, but even then it's unreliable. It couldn't get the degree of my Asc or my sister's even when I narrowed the time to have an hour, ensuring the rising sign would be unquestioned.

I inquired with the author of the app and he relies on primary directions to house cusps, which will only work in theory if you've already narrowed things down very well. If not, it can be wildly off. Any app is only as good as the subtlety and complexity of the programming.

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Mystic~Melody
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posted January 16, 2020 04:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mystic~Melody     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
People tend to view Libra Rising at ditsy, cutesy, and forgetful when they don't know the person well. People view Scorpio Rising as a little extra intense, penetrating stare and eyes, and possibly are intimidated by you. Which way do people who don't know you well view you immediately? Do they see you as some Pollyanna goody-two shoes who when you walk the wind whistles through your ears... or do they see you IMMEDIATELY as some powerful force to be utilized in their company or to be wary of in case you are hiding something?

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posted January 17, 2020 08:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lalafortunaea     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Good way to get a definitive answer is with an image. Even just a pic of your eyes could help.

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hypatia238
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posted January 17, 2020 11:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have gone out with libra rising conjunct pluto and scorpio rising conjunct pluto.

Scorpio riser was pretty kinky and libra riser a virgin lol

This matches my experience too with sun in libra and sun in scorpio.

My ex had sun in scorpio, I never met up with him since we become sexually active and not had sex, him and I always always had sex. My sun in libra husband we rarely have a sex life, he has a low sex drive.

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posted January 17, 2020 11:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Look at Venus sign and house for Libra
Look at Mars sign and house for Scorpio.

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posted January 17, 2020 12:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The Libra riser conjunct Pluto wants to be a therapist and the scorpio riser conjunct pluto does not bc he doesn't like people (has mars on the DC) but he memorized the entire DSM IV. Both struggle with depression, the Libra riser experiences Suicidal ideation periodically but feels he doesn't have the guts to kill himself (thank god), he admires people that are able to go through with it, (I dont admire that at all personally, on the contrary). The Scorpio riser conjunct pluto I think probably killed himself back in June as his family do not disclose how he died on the orbituary online, he was going to turn 29 this month. He liked shocking me during sex (Scorp rising conjunct pluto widely opposite mars on the DC). Both have a history of trauma.

Pluto conjunct the AC is rough.

I feel pluto conjunct AC or Scorpio rising are prone to Suicidal Ideation.

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posted January 17, 2020 03:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dumuzi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Mystic~Melody:
People tend to view Libra Rising at ditsy, cutesy, and forgetful when they don't know the person well.

honestly i can confirm this, but it's not as bad as it sounds i've realized i could be borderline retarded and people would still like me and it makes **** easier

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posted January 17, 2020 11:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hikaru29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Libra rising always have a "smile" on their face, whether they're really smiling or not. They do often "look" friendly. Scorpio rising always look intense and serious, even when they don't mean to. That's the fast difference I noticed. Even with Pluto there you can still tell the difference. My mom has Leo rising with Pluto on ASC, she gives off the intense/serious appeal but her Leo demeanour is still undeniable.

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posted January 17, 2020 11:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Hikaru29:
Libra rising always have a "smile" on their face, whether they're really smiling or not. They do often "look" friendly. Scorpio rising always look intense and serious, even when they don't mean to. That's the fast difference I noticed.

Bingo

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posted January 18, 2020 12:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My ascendant is around 2*55 Scorpio, conjunct Uranus, but my mum thought I had a Libra rising, because she didn't think I was all that Scorpio-like. Then I would get remarks from my sister, about a "look" that I get in my eyes, that sounded more like Scorpio.

I used to be considered somewhat ditzy, or just too sweet. One person referred to my "disney head" making it sound as though I'd had some kind of ideal life, so I could never imagine what he was talking about. But I was a lot more optimistic at the time, I was happier, so I didn't come off as someone who had been suicidal when being bullied, or almost been killed by someone. I have Moon conjunct Venus, so I guess that could come across Libra-like.

I've gone through phases where I'm never approached, and then experienced a long phase where people did approach me: they asked for money, hit on me, and then one time a woman approached me in the grocery store, to give me a coupon for free greens (I was looking in the bagged salad and greens area). Women can be friendly when you're at the farmer's market, or looking at things in stores, though.

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posted January 18, 2020 11:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dumuzi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by hypatia238:
I have gone out with libra rising conjunct pluto and scorpio rising conjunct pluto.

Scorpio riser was pretty kinky and libra riser a virgin lol

This matches my experience too with sun in libra and sun in scorpio.

My ex had sun in scorpio, I never met up with him since we become sexually active and not had sex, him and I always always had sex. My sun in libra husband we rarely have a sex life, he has a low sex drive.


i wouldnt equate the libra to lack of/low sex drive, i have a high one and prefer sex daily or more than that in a relationship and like experimenting etc and so on

also with the suicide thing i don't have pluto on the ascendant but i did try once, it didn't work out i'm still here

so yeah been there and thought about it a while before, **** happens it was years ago

i wouldn't really call that a scorpio or pluto thing (unless you want to count my placidus 1st house pluto and pluto-sun sextile)

i have libra venus on libra ascendant, but i also have leo mercury sextile both, aries moon opposite, sag uranus sextile, and cap mars square

south node on ascendant too, so there's a lot going on outside of the scorpio pluto sitting in my first house (it's also the loosest aspect to my sun my sun square saturn and sun trine neptune are both tighter orbs)

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posted January 18, 2020 01:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Dumuzi:
i wouldnt equate the libra to lack of/low sex drive, i have a high one and prefer sex daily or more than that in a relationship and like experimenting etc and so on

also with the suicide thing i don't have pluto on the ascendant but i did try once, it didn't work out i'm still here

so yeah been there and thought about it a while before, **** happens it was years ago

i wouldn't really call that a scorpio or pluto thing (unless you want to count my placidus 1st house pluto and pluto-sun sextile)

i have libra venus on libra ascendant, but i also have leo mercury sextile both, aries moon opposite, sag uranus sextile, and cap mars square

south node on ascendant too, so there's a lot going on outside of the scorpio pluto sitting in my first house (it's also the loosest aspect to my sun my sun square saturn and sun trine neptune are both tighter orbs)


I definitely feel confident that Libra suns have a tendency to have a lower sex drive in both male and females but there are exceptions ofcourse. The one libra girl I knew who was a nurse who I could tell she was physical and had a healthy sex drive also has MOON in ARIES like you. I have met a ton of moon in aries folks and they all have a healthy sex drive. Aries is action and the Moon is what comes naturally to us, our moon is a very instinctual place in our chart and so I feel it often even overpowers our sun placement at times in our behavior. Mars rules Aries so Mars ruling your Moon will make you someone of action that acts on what they want instinctually. I feel that is what I have noticed tends to over-ride that libra tendency to be cerebral and be in their head (which is what I feel causes the lower sex drive), a strong ARIES Placement on the angles, on the moon or mars.

As for Plutonic Ascendants lets revisit that PLUTO rules DEATH so it makes total sense that someone who has Pluto on an angle especially the AC which rules their own body that they would struggle with Suicidal Ideation and further more that someone who has Pluto conjunct AC in Scorpio opposite Mars on the DC is more likely to take action and succeed with this attempt than someone who has AC in libra conjunct Pluto without Mars or Aries aspecting that somehow. You are an example of this, you have libra rising near your Pluto and it opposes MOON in ARIES on the DC and squares your mars too, again you have mars/aries there giving you the impulse and courage to act on those thoughts.

Mars is the God of War and Pluto rules death so if you have both of these simultaneously influencing your AC (especially on angles) you are at high risk of acting on Suicidal thoughts and been self-destructive.

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posted January 18, 2020 01:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Dumuzi

I am glad your attempt was years ago and you haven't attempted again but you can argue that all those years of you doing hard drugs that you were essentially engaging in high risk behavior that can result at any moment in an over dose and end your life so you may have been passively suicidal all those years instead of taking a direct conscious action towards ending your life like you did once. Not to mention people die of alcohol overdose/poisoning all the time or due to liver disease which is like slowly killing yourself.

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posted January 19, 2020 01:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dumuzi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Dumuzi

I am glad your attempt was years ago and you haven't attempted again but you can argue that all those years of you doing hard drugs that you were essentially engaging in high risk behavior that can result at any moment in an over dose and end your life so you may have been passively suicidal all those years instead of taking a direct conscious action towards ending your life like you did once. Not to mention people die of alcohol overdose/poisoning all the time or due to liver disease which is like slowly killing yourself.


fair enough, to both posts

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