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Topic: My brother tried to kill his self today
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Dons2angelss Knowflake Posts: 694 From: Virginia, US Registered: Jan 2019
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posted January 04, 2020 01:38 PM
quote: Originally posted by Graham: [QUOTE][b]Oops, yes 1995
I'm wondering why your subconscious is insisting on you writing 1995 rather than 1994. [Notes/questions :
1. The sibling dynamics/relationships within the family probably had a significant impact upon him/his self-worth during childhood. ... Did all of you have the same mother, with his two older sisters having the same biological father and his younger sister not sharing a biological father with any of her three older siblings? 2, Was he raised by your biological father; the biological father of your youngest sister or by someone else? 3. Was his fiancee/your best friend older than him?][/B][/QUOTE] We all have the same mother. There are 4 of us, to make it less confusing I'll abbreviate our names Me the oldest JNJ Next JDJ (we're 19 months apart same bio parents) My brother JCJ (his bio father is different, he wanted nothing to do with him) 10 year difference between him and I Youngest sister, SAR (her bio father raised JCJ from a year old) 16 year difference between us Yes, my friend, his fiancé was 11 or 12 years older than him. I left our family when JCJ was a year old to go live with my bio father in 1996 (across the country) JDJ was closer with our mother so we were split up for 6 years until he passed away, I was 16 at the time. I moved back with my mother but I only stayed a short time and left to be on my own. IP: Logged |
Graham Knowflake Posts: 608 From: Registered: Apr 2019
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posted January 04, 2020 07:17 PM
quote: Belage, I fully agree and that is at the very basic core of this entire situation.
The eternal Soul (being accompanied in the current incarnation by the one-lifetime ego that is JCJ) has attracted all of these "abandonment and betrayal" events for a reason. And, (imo) that reason/intention is to recreate - during the First Saturn Cycle - an adult JCJ that, due to actual/concrete (rather than imaginary) reasons/experiences has the same psychological insecurities as had a one-lifetime ego which accompanied the Soul in a past ...and very emotionally painful/traumatic... lifetime.So ... when seen in that context ... it is apparent that "everything is unfolding in the way this Soul intends" BUT - as is always the case - freewill makes it impossible to predict whether the one-lifetime-ego (JCJ) will choose to "stay with the programme" rather than to "opt out". And, given the crosses that JCJ has already been asked to bear, "opting out" is a choice he has considered ... because he does not yet see "where this Soul/life is going to" - and fears that it will be a continuation of his " sh*t happens " natal program/chart. Hence ... astrology can help him ... if we use the 30-years Saturn Cycles/Returns to show him "where his Soul is coming from, and intending to go to, in this current incarnation". IP: Logged |
Graham Knowflake Posts: 608 From: Registered: Apr 2019
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posted January 04, 2020 07:36 PM
Here is his First Saturn Return Chart (at the birthplace location) ... Note (for now) how the severely tested Mercury in his Natal Chart has become the ruler of this chart, and is in a Learning Triangle with Jupiter-Saturn-Moon. IP: Logged |
Dons2angelss Knowflake Posts: 694 From: Virginia, US Registered: Jan 2019
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posted January 04, 2020 10:32 PM
Very interesting, that's the time he became a father and subsequently had to leave the home of the man who raised him to finish school. IP: Logged |
Graham Knowflake Posts: 608 From: Registered: Apr 2019
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posted January 05, 2020 03:47 AM
quote: Originally posted by Dons2angelss: Very interesting, that's the time he became a father and subsequently had to leave the home of the man who raised him to finish school.
No ... (although that chart would be useful/helpful) ... his First Saturn Return does not happen until 19:58:22 on 10th February 2024. ... So, my posted chart indicates "where he is going to" - rather than where he has been, or is "coming from". (Please see the comment that I have now posted immediately before the one containing the 2024 Return Chart, D2a.)IP: Logged |
Dons2angelss Knowflake Posts: 694 From: Virginia, US Registered: Jan 2019
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posted January 05, 2020 05:54 PM
quote: Originally posted by Graham: [QUOTE]Originally posted by Dons2angelss: [b]Very interesting, that's the time he became a father and subsequently had to leave the home of the man who raised him to finish school.
No ... (although that chart would be useful/helpful) ... his First Saturn Return does not happen until 19:58:22 on 10th February 2024. ... So, my posted chart indicates "where he is going to" - rather than where he has been, or is "coming from". (Please see the comment that I have now posted immediately before the one containing the 2024 Return Chart, D2a.)[/B][/QUOTE] Apologies, I was thinking of his Saturn opposition which would have been around 15 years old. I completely missed your comment before the chart. His attitude has always been to "take it with a grain of salt" and "sh*t happens" which you stated above. In the recent year, he's been digging deeper into the meaning of life and where he fits in and his bigger purpose. I've had many conversations with him about astrology, showing him certain things and I specifically told him this year in his SR chart, Saturn will be exactly conjunct his south node in the 2H. Basically all of those abandonment issues that he has swept under the rug will be purged until he works to heal them, or he chooses to opt out as you said. This morning him and I spoke about all of the information you all have given in this post. I want you to know that it really helped him get a clearer picture of what he's going through on a spiritual level and the lessons he must learn or repeat until he does. He asked me to thank you all for spending your time looking into his charts and helping him to get through this. ❤️ IP: Logged |
Graham Knowflake Posts: 608 From: Registered: Apr 2019
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posted January 06, 2020 10:55 AM
quote: In the recent year, he's been digging deeper into the meaning of life and where he fits in and his bigger purpose. I've had many conversations with him about astrology, showing him certain things and I specifically told him this year in his SR chart, Saturn will be exactly conjunct his south node in the 2H. Basically all of those abandonment issues that he has swept under the rug will be purged until he works to heal them, or he chooses to opt out as you said.
However ... what you still may not have done, is to tell him about the next 30 years in his SATURN Return Chart. ... Yet, in astrology, that is where a chart-owner can find his/her "WHY?" http://home.bt.com/lifestyle/health/wellness/11-life-changing-secrets-of- shaolin-monks-11364017541577 The Soul walking with JCJ through this lifetime is in the process of teaching him that ... unconscious egos live a life of unconnected events/dots; some become conscious/aware of the dots being connected by their Solar Returns; others have learned (in the 20th Century) to recognise the pattern of their Saturn Returns and (in the 21st Century) some will be able to recognise the guiding light being shone by Uranus during its 84-years-long cycle around their natal chart*. [ * Your brother's Uranus Return (at his place of birth) is at 09:31:27am on 27th December 2077. ... Draw the chart (at Astro.com) and note the 16th harmonic contacts between Moon-Jupiter-Sun-Venus-Saturn. Is he not someone who shall one day be passing on his hard-earned wisdom to others (if he doesn't opt out of the program)?] IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 121451 From: From a galaxy, far, far away... Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 12, 2020 07:24 PM
Bump!IP: Logged |
PlutoInScorpio Newflake Posts: 5 From: Argentina Registered: Jan 2020
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posted January 13, 2020 10:32 PM
How is your brother? Did this sunday rare conjuction affected him? IP: Logged |
teasel Knowflake Posts: 13313 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 13, 2020 10:48 PM
quote: Originally posted by PlutoInScorpio: How is your brother? Did this sunday rare conjuction affected him?
I've been meaning to ask, too. IP: Logged |