posted January 10, 2020 04:05 AM            

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Originally posted by AriesLilith:
There are certain things that are very hard to tolerate. The world is far from perfection, even thought some of us are lucky to live in better places.
Sometimes I wonder if I can do more, but then i’m selfish that I wouldn’t be able to sacrifice my own happiness to dedicate to causes.
Although besides detachment, I’d like to think that each of us can contribute to the world in different ways. Working with technology, I believe what I do contributes to better lives, and maybe with the better quality and efficiency, people have more freetime to learn and find their own interests, like dedicating to causes.
Even if it’s a small drop of contribution in this ocean, the ocean is a sum of drops. Each of us can contribute with our talents in different fields, which directly or indirectly contributes for more.

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This is what I hope for. To find a way to help, without losing my mind.

posted January 11, 2020 02:55 AM            

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Originally posted by Dumuzi:
@Aries23Degrees

for what it's worth, that's something you can learn. When i used to deal with depression pretty heavy, it was something i really needed to focus on and i don't have that issue anymore

Takes a lot of work and energy to get to that place but i imagine if it works for depression, it would for any other feeling cant see why not.

i detach hard yeah, but i wws also trained to in a lot of ways as a kid (not always positive) so i'm sort of learning now when and where to place that and balance it out

opposite issue

this guy i've been getting to know has an aries ascendant and a libra mars and he's pretty ******* mellow and emotionally guarded but that could be the cap moon that's doing that

we can usually work things out and find a middle ground easy even when disagreements have been fairly big

i have a hard time relating because it's very rare for me to not be able to pull back and weigh whether or not my feelings are worth feeling, but maybe in your case with this transit youre just meant to feel those things and work on finding an outlet or direction that's constructive

detachment isnt always best anyway, maybe in your case you need to find that balance through proper outlets that serve purpose and get you somewhere

like actively tackling social injustices or whatever the ****

to me it sounds like you're restless and that's what's making things so annoying

at least once **** passes you might be good right?

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I will be Dumuzi.Thanks for that

I really do think it's because I'm restless. That is actually what i have been concluding too because once I am busy doing something, the irritation subsides.

I guess one has to be more conscious now more than ever i.e if they don't put the excessive energy to productive use, it comes off explosively (like in my case)

#oh yes. And as for the Aries Asc,Mars in Libra guy you speak of- Mars in Libra is the master of charm, being agreeable and going along(well atleast on the surface). But just don't get too close.

If his Moon in Cap is square Mars in Lib, you may be dealing with someone whom indeed has high walls(as you put it).So he may respond in a more "cagey" fashion.

This is what is called the "closing square " and can work much like Cancer-the native focuses a lot on existing/old familiar ties & though they may toy with establishing new ones etc. It takes times for them to.

I (Moon in Cancer)have a hard time with Cap Moon folks(both my Dads have this Moon)-as they can vehemently deny what I feel is going on between them and I up to a point where I question my sanity or what I feel(because I'm reading between the lines).

So they will flat out deny my pov and dismiss my feelings only to validate its truth posthumously i.e "I think you were right about me being...." etc.

Like for instance,with your Moon in Aries,you may be laying it all out there and his Aries Asc may appreciate that and love it too.

But when you call him out on being impassive, closed off or less forthcoming etc.his response will be "I don't know what you are talking about" or "I don't know what you want from me" whilst looking at you like you are mentally "unstable" through "making up" stuff that they don't acknowledge are there.

posted January 11, 2020 03:02 AM            

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Originally posted by teasel:
^^ I was going to suggest active involvement, too. I need to do that. It’s been getting to me that Ohio still has a loophole in the law, allowing spouses to rape their partner, if the other person is incapacitated. I posted about it on our Nextdoor app, last year, got two responses, saying we needed to vote them out. The republicans who voted in favour of keeping it (or stopped the new law from even making it to the floor to be voted on). I’m still so angry that it’s legal, and that republicans kept it, because they agree with it, don’t care, or think their voters agree with it. It’s just scary. I want to post about it again, but don’t know how to get some people to differentiate between keeping something “because it ****** the libs off” and getting rid of something, for the good of everyone. Ohio is messed up anyway - I live in the middle of the political crazy - but this is too much.

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This is an outrage!!!

No wait.. breathe.. breathe...breathe.. ** thinking of wet and rainy English countryside and the Queen's tea***

Now that I am more calm What I reallg wanted to say is that people tend to vote "against" something as opposed to "for".

Naturally we as a people are more "reactive" than "creative".We wait until something affects us DIRECTLY before deciding whether or not its an injustice.

posted January 11, 2020 03:08 AM            

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Originally posted by AriesLilith:
There are certain things that are very hard to tolerate. The world is far from perfection, even thought some of us are lucky to live in better places.
Sometimes I wonder if I can do more, but then i’m selfish that I wouldn’t be able to sacrifice my own happiness to dedicate to causes.
Although besides detachment, I’d like to think that each of us can contribute to the world in different ways. Working with technology, I believe what I do contributes to better lives, and maybe with the better quality and efficiency, people have more freetime to learn and find their own interests, like dedicating to causes.
Even if it’s a small drop of contribution in this ocean, the ocean is a sum of drops. Each of us can contribute with our talents in different fields, which directly or indirectly contributes for more.

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All of this is such an Aries statement. Lol. Especially the part where you mention not being able to sacrifice your own happiness and dedicate yourself to causes. WOW!!

I feel the same. I think that is really what is at the heart of my Mars in Lib opp Asc in Aries i.e I want to help but how much of MY time will be spent "helping" before I get back to ME?

posted January 11, 2020 03:52 AM            

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Originally posted by hearttreasure:
The sensitivity comes from the Moon, and the Mars react on it. Moon/Mars square makes it worse.

My younger sister has Moon in Cap and Mars in Libra. She is V.E.R.Y passive aggressive. I don't have good relationship with her since I decide to marry my husband (funny, he also is a Cap moon and she hates him).

I don't have problem with her tho but she makes a problem between us just because she is angry I make my parents disappointed marrying the one who doesn't even treat me right.

She gets even when I don't fight him to get a divorce paper, she doesn't like me choosing a more peaceful way. She becomes stepping into my boundaries and from my point of view, she also becomes a provocateur between me and my parents which makes me put A LOT of distance at this moment to my parents.

I have been through a lot and I don't want to make it worse between me and my parents.
What's wrong with those Libra Mars.

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Let me be the first to apologize on behalf of her Lib Mars(I am one too).I notice that men and women tend to express signs differently-this whether Mars,Moon, Sun etc.

Your sister is too involved in your life and sees the injustice done to you, as an injustice done to her.In her mind,it is through asserting her views ON you that she is actually self-soothing.

As people, we naturally always seem to have answers on how OTHER people should live their lives, but no clue on our own. And with Cap Moon, there is often "scolding" or "wise" counsel to contend with from her.

She needs a hobby. You are right in keeping your distance because then,she will not be meddling in your affairs AND you will be able to sort your life out as it suits you.

posted January 11, 2020 04:12 AM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
All of this is such an Aries statement. Lol. Especially the part where you mention not being able to sacrifice your own happiness and dedicate yourself to causes. WOW!!

I feel the same. I think that is really what is at the heart of my Mars in Lib opp Asc in Aries i.e I want to help but how much of MY time will be spent "helping" before I get back to ME?

I am still very much on a road to find ME.All these "help humanity" things are noble(true) but also very time consuming & taxing at best.Something has to give.

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A lesson I learned is that before helping others we have to be fine. Even in astrology, through the houses is the journey of first being us (1st house), then learning what it means to live on the material plane (2nd), then our mind and to communicate and learn from information (3rd), then our roots and family (4th). After, we become aware of our talents (5th) so that we can apply them to serve and contribute (6th). After the first six houses of focusing on ourselves that we start to focus on others and our place in the world (7th to 12th).

There are things I’m planning to do that will help others, but it has to do with what I’ve learned from what I experienced. I have Chiron on MC and the symbolism started to make sense.
Recently I also wtarted therapy and I just discovered more of myself. Part of me has been numbed and repressed and I didn’t fully realise, now I’m learning “to be” me, just as my chart is supposed to with all those Aries in the 8th house.

posted January 11, 2020 07:07 AM            

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Originally posted by AriesLilith:
A lesson I learned is that before helping others we have to be fine. Even in astrology, through the houses is the journey of first being us (1st house), then learning what it means to live on the material plane (2nd), then our mind and to communicate and learn from information (3rd), then our roots and family (4th). After, we become aware of our talents (5th) so that we can apply them to serve and contribute (6th). After the first six houses of focusing on ourselves that we start to focus on others and our place in the world (7th to 12th).

There are things I’m planning to do that will help others, but it has to do with what I’ve learned from what I experienced. I have Chiron on MC and the symbolism started to make sense.
Recently I also wtarted therapy and I just discovered more of myself. Part of me has been numbed and repressed and I didn’t fully realise, now I’m learning “to be” me, just as my chart is supposed to with all those Aries in the 8th house.

When we understand ourselves, we know how we can contribute. When we are fine ourselves, we can contribute better too.
It need not be everything we got, as little things can contribute to better too.

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I share the same sentiment and absolutely agree with you. We need not give the world our ALL.Just fill ourselves up to "overflow" into it.

It really does begin with the self. ALWAYS.

#In other news.

I consider Chiron on the angles so tough.I would like to pick your brain on my interpretation of Chiron in 10th.

Because when in the 1st house, i see it as someone who is (atleast metaphorically) wearing the wound "outside/in". Their very identity/being is intertwined with Chiron.

This for instance could be a case of someone who has Chiron in Sco in House 1.I see this to be a person born for example from rape or incest.

Here the natives identity(1st) comes from a wound(Chiron) inflicted through sex (Scorpio).

Chiron in 4th house would be a wound that goes "hand in hand " with how someone was brought up or their early environment.

If say Chiron is in Taurus, the wound would come from physical security i.e someone who was fed too much(spoiled) or fed too little(malnourished). Being beaten or physically harmed in some way too.

When Chiron is in the 7th, the native is the type to feature on talk shows as a guest and have the public (7th) evaluate their wound (7th) because perhaps they don't see it?

Chiron in Aries in 7th would (for instance) suggest someone with a violent temper or anger that is difficult to soothe when interacting with the public or those outside of them.

The native could be the type who accuses others of bringing out the worst in them or goading their anger on? Perhaps because they don't get as angry or see a problem with their anger outside of interacting with the partner/public?

So when Chiron is on the Mc, the wound is airlifted for all to see.Here the wound takes the VIP seat in the chart.

Say for instance Chiron is in Gemini, then the wound has to do with communication or the lack thereof in ability or effectiveness etc.

So here the native may hone in on a career or vocation that focuses on oratory skills ie speech therapist,public speaking coach,someone who deals with communication skills,voice trainers or people who do voice overs.

What could also be apparent is that the individual is known to speak with a lisp, a stutter,uses gestures or can be inaudible etc.

posted January 11, 2020 09:01 AM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
This is an outrage!!!

No wait.. breathe.. breathe...breathe.. ** thinking of wet and rainy English countryside and the Queen's tea***

Now that I am more calm What I reallg wanted to say is that people tend to vote "against" something as opposed to "for".

Naturally we as a people are more "reactive" than "creative".We wait until something affects us DIRECTLY before deciding whether or not its an injustice.

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posted January 11, 2020 10:39 AM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
I share the same sentiment and absolutely agree with you. We need not give the world our ALL.Just fill ourselves up to "overflow" into it.

It really does begin with the self. ALWAYS.

#In other news.

I consider Chiron on the angles so tough.I would like to pick your brain on my interpretation of Chiron in 10th.

Because when in the 1st house, i see it as someone who is (atleast metaphorically) wearing the wound "outside/in". Their very identity/being is intertwined with Chiron.

This for instance could be a case of someone who has Chiron in Sco in House 1.I see this to be a person born for example from rape or incest.

Here the natives identity(1st) comes from a wound(Chiron) inflicted through sex (Scorpio).

Chiron in 4th house would be a wound that goes "hand in hand " with how someone was brought up or their early environment.

If say Chiron is in Taurus, the wound would come from physical security i.e someone who was fed too much(spoiled) or fed too little(malnourished). Being beaten or physically harmed in some way too.

When Chiron is in the 7th, the native is the type to feature on talk shows as a guest and have the public (7th) evaluate their wound (7th) because perhaps they don't see it?

Chiron in Aries in 7th would (for instance) suggest someone with a violent temper or anger that is difficult to soothe when interacting with the public or those outside of them.

The native could be the type who accuses others of bringing out the worst in them or goading their anger on? Perhaps because they don't get as angry or see a problem with their anger outside of interacting with the partner/public?

So when Chiron is on the Mc, the wound is airlifted for all to see.Here the wound takes the VIP seat in the chart.

Say for instance Chiron is in Gemini, then the wound has to do with communication or the lack thereof in ability or effectiveness etc.

So here the native may hone in on a career or vocation that focuses on oratory skills ie speech therapist,public speaking coach,someone who deals with communication skills,voice trainers or people who do voice overs.

What could also be apparent is that the individual is known to speak with a lisp, a stutter,uses gestures or can be inaudible etc.

What do you think about the 10th house one?

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Chiron is a mix of Saturn/Uranus so the symbolism is related to having a critical and research mindset. He is a teacher and a mentor, perhaps also a scientist.

I do have an inquisitive mind which researches and structures my learning specially when I’m focused.

In my chart it’s Gemini MC conjunct Chiron, and Chiron squares AC, sextiles Sun, opposes Scorpio Saturn (conjunct IC) that is in the 3rd house.

I do have some difficulty at expressing eloquently, I think a lot before saying things. I’d attribute this to Saturn on IC square AC in the 3rd house thought.
Aside this I write well when I try, and have been told this. I take writing and expressing seriously specially at work.

posted January 11, 2020 10:48 AM            

I'm honestly not sure what the cause of it is in my chart. But my dad was the exact same way, so I'm sure I get it from him.

Aries23, I know you already know my chart. But to others who may not, I have a lot of pisces in my chart. My pisces sun, moon, mercury conjunction/stellium square saturn. I am also a Leo rising which I believe gives me optimism on a daily basis. I see the glass as half full instead of half empty. I'm not someone who self-pities or wallows when something goes wrong. Rather, I find solutions on how to make it better.

posted January 11, 2020 12:03 PM            

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Originally posted by teasel:
^^ I was going to suggest active involvement, too. I need to do that. It’s been getting to me that Ohio still has a loophole in the law, allowing spouses to rape their partner, if the other person is incapacitated. I posted about it on our Nextdoor app, last year, got two responses, saying we needed to vote them out. The republicans who voted in favour of keeping it (or stopped the new law from even making it to the floor to be voted on). I’m still so angry that it’s legal, and that republicans kept it, because they agree with it, don’t care, or think their voters agree with it. It’s just scary. I want to post about it again, but don’t know how to get some people to differentiate between keeping something “because it ****** the libs off” and getting rid of something, for the good of everyone. Ohio is messed up anyway - I live in the middle of the political crazy - but this is too much.

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it could be more complex than that, depending on the entirety of the law and what else is there

i'd have to read it, but i understand why that loophole would bother you

posted January 11, 2020 12:40 PM            

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Originally posted by teasel:
I meant to edit that out, but when I posted, I was thinking, "if women were doing this to men, that might outrage people enough to get the bill passed." Sure enough, when I bumped my old thread on the next-door site, a man responded with, "you mean a woman can do this to her husband, get pregnant..." and entrap
a man, or something. I told him I expected a response just like his, didn't know if he was being sarcastic or not, but that it was depressing to think that his take on it, would likely be the one to anger people - but getting it passed is the most important thing.

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Men like to project themselves on things with the aim of levelling their pain to be the same and sometimes even more than what women feel.

posted January 11, 2020 12:41 PM            

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Originally posted by Dumuzi:
it could be more complex than that, depending on the entirety of the law and what else is there

i'd have to read it, but i understand why that loophole would bother you

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*edit. Damn it!! I just lost a huge post, with links.

Quickly, from May:
http://www.ohiohouse.gov/tavia-galonski/press/ohio -effort-to-make-all-rape-and-assault-illegal-undercut-by-weak-gop-proposal

From July:
http://www.routefifty.com/management/2019/07/state-lawmakers-try-outlaw-marital-ra pe/158173/

From December, plus an addition to remove the statute of limitations on rape:
http://www.cleveland.com/opinion/2019/12/time-to-repeal-ohios-statute-of-limi tations-on-rape.html

posted January 11, 2020 12:43 PM            

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Originally posted by AriesLilith:
Chiron is a mix of Saturn/Uranus so the symbolism is related to having a critical and research mindset. He is a teacher and a mentor, perhaps also a scientist.

I do have an inquisitive mind which researches and structures my learning specially when I’m focused.

In my chart it’s Gemini MC conjunct Chiron, and Chiron squares AC, sextiles Sun, opposes Scorpio Saturn (conjunct IC) that is in the 3rd house.

I do have some difficulty at expressing eloquently, I think a lot before saying things. I’d attribute this to Saturn on IC square AC in the 3rd house thought.
Aside this I write well when I try, and have been told this. I take writing and expressing seriously specially at work.

Back to Chiron on MC, I think that I can relate to the “scientist” mindset on my career. I also work in IT (information). Sometimes I wondered if I can be a mentor, specially when I have a packed 8th house. But in the past few years I realized that what I went through can be used to help others. I’ve been through hard things and instead of victimizing myself, I want to use this to help others better. My story can also help others feel related and make me a better helper.

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posted January 11, 2020 12:44 PM            

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Originally posted by hearttreasure:
This is ME too. Do you have Sag Mars?

My Sag Mars is in 12th house, so it takes waaay longer until erupting. Most of the time I chill. But it's important for me to surround myself with positive emotions/people (I have Pisces Venus) or I can easily be drained and you won't have a chill time with me as I will have some preach at you or the easy way, I am gone like a ghost without guilty.

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not in tropical, only vedic and draco

in tropical my mars is in cap, 3rd house in placidus and 4th in whole signs

it's loosely conjunct neptune and square my moon (aries) and venus (libra)

posted January 11, 2020 12:52 PM            

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Originally posted by polkadotstars:
Aries23, I know you already know my chart. But to others who may not, I have a lot of pisces in my chart. My pisces sun, moon, mercury conjunction/stellium square saturn. I am also a Leo rising which I believe gives me optimism on a daily basis. I see the glass as half full instead of half empty. I'm not someone who self-pities or wallows when something goes wrong. Rather, I find solutions on how to make it better.

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I think your sensibility may be because of Saturn squaring the ruler of the Asc (Sun) as part of the Stellium.

I notice that sometimes Saturn works in the negative i.e some people may be hyper sensitive to criticism & be so discouraged by others that they beat up on themselves.

I know of someone with Saturn squaring the Asc and I think she beats up on herself a lot.

posted January 11, 2020 01:45 PM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
I think your sensibility may be because of Saturn squaring the ruler of the Asc (Sun) as part of the Stellium.

I notice that sometimes Saturn works in the negative i.e some people may and hyper sensitive to criticism and be so discouraged by others that they beat up on themselves.

I know of someone with Saturn squaring the Asc and I think she beats up on herself up a lot.

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Hmm, interesting. I do hold myself to a high standard and so I achieve pretty much everything I put my mind to. While this is impressive to most people, I am overly humble. I don't like to brag about my accomplishments, and there have been many accolades I have done, but I don't have a grandiose attitude about it.

posted January 11, 2020 02:29 PM            

yeah everything you've said just gave me restless vibes and it seems like you just need to find the right outlet for everything so **** can balance itself out

saturn and pluto are being **** right now though so it makes sense

ive had them squaring a lot of my chart too for a while now so i get where youre coming from on some level

though restlessness for me just tends to mean pace around a bit, distract myself for a little while and then it passes

and for me i just kind of feel like a lot of it has been constructive even the harsher side of things

little late to not get too close tbh, is what it is though

he's definitely difficult feelings wise though he admits it, and i'll tell him as much because there's a coldness there in spite of him being really thoughtful

it's a weird blend that i find confusing but i say as much and he makes effort to actively change or will at least admit to **** so it's pretty whatever

i like cap moons generally could be because my mars is there but i usually get along with cap placements well enough, and i actually appreciate the ways they can be aloof because i see it as sort of balancing the way i can be

when people say things like that to me later on i just take it as a positive because to me it means they took time to reflect and i feel like that validates what i said rather than invalidates it and the initial annoyance at any sort of denial in the moment is long gone

i think it means a lot when someone thinks on something well after it's said and done and then can admit it, and i like that about cap moons you can usually level with them and they're not going to get overly emotional about it or anything

he does appreciate the openness in spite of his own issues with being forward, but that being said i know he's honest when he says he's more open with me than he is with other people because he really tends to shut people out a lot

he's apologized for it tbh, said it's hard for him and then tries to show me he cares in other ways and even though there's this maddening "well why would i do x if i didnt feel like y? wouldnt that be a waste of time? im too lazy to put effort into something that's a waste of time" it's not too bad

he does make effort and acknowledge but it's still annoying, cap moons are just a bit awkward ultimately but i find them easy to be honest with and i can usually grasp their motivations so i'm pretty unphased by it

he has called me childish which is amusing because he's younger than me but may as well not be and it becomes easy to forget our ages aren't reversed for us both

but he's expressed it like he feels like it provides some balance and i'm inclined to agree

i can be childish, that's just true, so it'd be unreasonable to be bothered by someone calling me on it

it has its pros and cons anyway and he seems to acknowledge both sides of it

posted January 11, 2020 02:38 PM            

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Originally posted by teasel:
*edit. Damn it!! I just lost a huge post, with links.

Quickly, from May:
http://www.ohiohouse.gov/tavia-galonski/press/ohio -effort-to-make-all-rape-and-assault-illegal-undercut-by-weak-gop-proposal

From July:
http://www.routefifty.com/management/2019/07/state-lawmakers-try-outlaw-marital-ra pe/158173/

From December, plus an addition to remove the statute of limitations on rape:
http://www.cleveland.com/opinion/2019/12/time-to-repeal-ohios-statute-of-limi tations-on-rape.html

This last one is bipartisan, which is excellent. They're trying to do something about the boys who were assaulted here in Ohio. But this is the third attempt in one year.

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bill 249 (i read the bill btw) which is the one mentioned is specifically about physicians so i'm not understanding why it's included when you're talking about spousal rape or why it's an issue here

posted January 11, 2020 02:43 PM            

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Originally posted by polkadotstars:

Hmm, interesting. I do hold myself to a high standard and so I achieve pretty much everything I put my mind to. While this is impressive to most people, I am overly humble. I don't like to brag about my accomplishments, and there have been many accolades I have done, but I don't have a grandiose attitude about it.

Like you mentioned above, I am hyper sensitive to criticism. I take that internally because I don't like to disappoint others. It upsets me greatly when someone provides me with negative feedback.

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That is where the drive to achieve and outperform stems from. On another level, it could be that you believe earning other people's approval is through showing your competence and capabilities.

I personally have realized how my Ven-Sat conjunct is the programming to innately think that I can only receive/deserve love(Ven), if I do well or excell(Sat).

I have to be the most handsome, the nost likeable, the brainiest, the most articulate etc. To get the proverbial "rose"(Like I am consistently on that "Bachelor" show).

And mind you, most of the Bacgelors and Bachelirettes on that show actually have Saturn/Ven and Saturn/Moon aspects. They are looking to "judge" a mate on their ability to "perform".

On the other hand however,I realize that I also have to take the responsibility of putting the pressure on myself & comforming to such conditioning as I don't want to be thought of as a "loser".

I secretly envy people who are underachieving and still get to be love.Or those that mess up so bad but still have people backing them up etc. I don't feel that my support system would do that.

In their eyes as long as I make them look good, all is well.If not, judgment & harsh criticism follows(and much of it has been succcessfully internalised)

posted January 11, 2020 02:44 PM            

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Originally posted by Dumuzi:
bill 249 (i read the bill btw) which is the one mentioned is specifically about physicians so i'm not understanding why it's included when you're talking about spousal rape or why it's an issue here

didnt read the other links but based on first impression that stands out and i find it odd

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posted January 11, 2020 03:13 PM            

i wonder if your feeling invalidated stems from your cancer moon, the more i think about it i think that might be a big part of it because i've noticed he's actually pretty good at dealing with my feelings

better than i am with them myself tbh

he can be really patient and when i've been upset about **** he listens well and after a little while he'll either try to cheer me up or just say a couple things that give me a different perspective and then it's all good

i find it easy to speak to him because he's not particularly reactive and he tends to take my feelings on things more serious than i do and when i'm like "eh it doesn't matter" about something i feel he's the one who will say it does and such

so i haven't had that experience of feeling like he's judging me as crazy when it's been really important **** and when he's called me childish it's generally a fair assessment (when it isnt i say as much and explain why and we can talk about it)

i've actually never had a cap moon make me feel crazy for my feelings they just come off as old inside in a lot of ways to me and when they are saying im being childish they probably arent wrong

posted January 11, 2020 03:14 PM            

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Originally posted by teasel:
"SB 162 laudably also aims to abolish the so-called spousal exemption in Ohio law. Antonio and O'Brien told the Senate Judiciary Committee that, while the rape of a spouse is illegal in every state, Ohio included, “Ohio is one of 12 states with an existing loophole that prevents a rapist from being prosecuted for spousal rape as long as no ‘threat of force or violence’ exists. In other words, in Ohio it is legally permissible for a spouse to use drugs to incapacitate their spouse and force sexual acts upon them without their consent.” That’s disgusting."
http://www.cleveland.com/opinion/2019/12/time-to-repeal-ohios-statute-of-limi tations-on-rape.html

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i mostly just wanted to read the bill the existing loophole was in to see if there were other reasons why overturning it would be problematic ultimately

posted January 11, 2020 03:41 PM            

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Originally posted by Dumuzi:
@Aries23Degrees

yeah everything you've said just gave me restless vibes and it seems like you just need to find the right outlet for everything so **** can balance itself out

saturn and pluto are being **** right now though so it makes sense

ive had them squaring a lot of my chart too for a while now so i get where youre coming from on some level

though restlessness for me just tends to mean pace around a bit, distract myself for a little while and then it passes

and for me i just kind of feel like a lot of it has been constructive even the harsher side of things

little late to not get too close tbh, is what it is though

he's definitely difficult feelings wise though he admits it, and i'll tell him as much because there's a coldness there in spite of him being really thoughtful

it's a weird blend that i find confusing but i say as much and he makes effort to actively change or will at least admit to **** so it's pretty whatever

i like cap moons generally could be because my mars is there but i usually get along with cap placements well enough, and i actually appreciate the ways they can be aloof because i see it as sort of balancing the way i can be

when people say things like that to me later on i just take it as a positive because to me it means they took time to reflect and i feel like that validates what i said rather than invalidates it and the initial annoyance at any sort of denial in the moment is long gone

i think it means a lot when someone thinks on something well after it's said and done and then can admit it, and i like that about cap moons you can usually level with them and they're not going to get overly emotional about it or anything

he does appreciate the openness in spite of his own issues with being forward, but that being said i know he's honest when he says he's more open with me than he is with other people because he really tends to shut people out a lot

he's apologized for it tbh, said it's hard for him and then tries to show me he cares in other ways and even though there's this maddening "well why would i do x if i didnt feel like y? wouldnt that be a waste of time? im too lazy to put effort into something that's a waste of time" it's not too bad

he does make effort and acknowledge but it's still annoying, cap moons are just a bit awkward ultimately but i find them easy to be honest with and i can usually grasp their motivations so i'm pretty unphased by it

he has called me childish which is amusing because he's younger than me but may as well not be and it becomes easy to forget our ages aren't reversed for us both

but he's expressed it like he feels like it provides some balance and i'm inclined to agree

i can be childish, that's just true, so it'd be unreasonable to be bothered by someone calling me on it

it has its pros and cons anyway and he seems to acknowledge both sides of it

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Your understanding of him may come from your Mars in Cap.

I have Mercury in Cap and even with this, I can find it difficult to understand where Cap and I seem to clash....a lot.

Last argument i had with one(and it seems to happen with many of them) he said "you are not the only one who feels stuff.And just because we are all not walking around all up in our feelings to NEVER see another's point of view, doesn't mean our own point of view is invalid."