posted January 17, 2020 12:16 AM            

I don't think it is as much Pluto but the direction of Scorpio.

That could imply Jupiter in Scorpio is the boss because of the associated mass.

posted January 17, 2020 01:07 AM            

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Originally posted by vansio:
good point secret geek.

greetings from also dallas

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posted January 18, 2020 12:02 AM            

In contrast, the asteroids Eris and Pluto each have at least one moon.

It is good to see people are interested in asteroids like Pluto.

posted January 18, 2020 12:15 AM            

See the tiny spec of Pluto compared to Jupiter?

Most of us have believed in asteroids without knowing it.

Dwarf planet?

posted January 18, 2020 02:19 AM            

Its not the size that matters when it comes to Pluto, its how it penetra...tes in its Plutonian way

posted January 18, 2020 07:31 AM            

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Originally posted by anonymidarkness:
Its not about believing or this and that, its more about the research, see the aspects Pluto make in a chart, see how it plays out in a number of people's charts, same effect repeating, thats all it takes to "believe" . Or is it not?

Its not the size that matters when it comes to Pluto, its how it penetra...tes in its Plutonian way

Who took the bait?

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Pluto has a nice story. So many believe in that asteroid's influence but not other asteroid influence like Ceres and Proserpine have to offer.

In the description below, notice how Jupiter, Proserpine, and Ceres are referred to.

Here is Proserpine:

Pluto is the god of the Underworld in Roman mythology.

In Greece, there was a god who was just like Pluto called Hades. He had a three headed dog named Cerberus who guarded his kingdom. Pluto was also the god of wealth because diamonds and other jewels come from underground.

posted January 18, 2020 07:41 AM            

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Originally posted by Aries Eagle:
I believe that the Sun accounts for at least 50% of the individual personality. because the Sun is the center,largest and hottest object there.
Also i think Sun affects males a little more than females. Females have a stronger moon effect on them... just my opinion.

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The Sun and Jupiter are way underrated in my opinion while Pluto is way overrated.

However, asteroid influence like what Pluto offers, is important.

But what is really causing the majority of Plutonian energy?

I doubt it's the asteroid Pluto.

Yeah, it used to be a planet.

Now it's a dwarf planet.

Tomorrow it could be classified as something else.

posted January 18, 2020 08:06 AM            

It was called a planet too when it was discovered, similar to Pluto.

Then when Pluto (asteroid #134340) was discovered in 1930, it became the 9th planet because they knew there was mass outside of Neptune unaccounted for.

It was all downhill after that just like Ceres.

But Ceres didn't have the story like Pluto did nor the discovery chart.

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The sizes of asteroids varies greatly; the largest, Ceres, is almost 1,000 km (600 mi) across and massive enough to be a dwarf planet.

1 Ceres, 1801
2 Pallas – 1802
3 Juno – 1804
4 Vesta – 1807
5 Astraea – 1845
in 1846, planet Neptune was discovered[24]
6 Hebe – July 1847
7 Iris – August 1847
8 Flora – October 1847
9 Metis – 25 April 1848
10 Hygiea – 12 April 1849 tenth asteroid discovered

posted January 18, 2020 09:11 AM            

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Originally posted by SecretGeek:

Pluto has a nice story. So many believe in that asteroid's influence but not other asteroid influence like Ceres and Proserpine have to offer.

In the description below, notice how Jupiter, Proserpine, and Ceres are referred to.

Here is Proserpine:

Pluto is the god of the Underworld in Roman mythology.

In Greece, there was a god who was just like Pluto called Hades. He had a three headed dog named Cerberus who guarded his kingdom. Pluto was also the god of wealth because diamonds and other jewels come from underground.

A myth about Pluto is that he took Proserpine, who was the daughter of Ceres, to the underworld to be his wife. Ceres cried and did not let plants grow on the Earth. People needed the plants so much that the god Jupiter made Pluto give her up. The deal they worked out was that for six months, Pluto got Proserpina. While Proserpina was in the underworld, no plants could grow on Earth and it was winter. When Proserpina could go back to her mother, it was summer. This was how the Greeks explained the seasons.
http://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pluto_(mythology)

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posted January 18, 2020 09:50 AM            

I think a big part of asteroids like Pluto is they could affect consciousness based upon archetypes.

Another part could be frequency (aspects) to personal DNA along with mass (energy) of the object.

posted January 18, 2020 01:05 PM            

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Originally posted by anonymidarkness:
I think whatsoever affects needs to be taken into consideration, but there are so many, thats where the orbs play the part I guess ?...

Archetypes can affect, but not to the point where the "main" effect gets overtaken by it, its like the incident happens first and then the news comes out... you see where I'm getting??? .......

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If the main effect is the result of an asteroid named Pluto, orbs should likely not be normal unless you do it for all asteroids.

Possibly increase or decrease the orb relative to mass, for example.

posted January 18, 2020 01:05 PM            

I remember taking an astronomy course in college. The professor stated that on some surfaces, you would need a huge crane to lift a thimble-sized amount of matter off the ground.

Look at actual 'gold bars'. They are the size of regular builder's bricks-- but weigh sooo much more!

With the discovery of the outer planets, and Pluto in particular, we learned something more of Bode's Law, and 'how' to apply it to TransNeptunian bodies. Resonance ratios.

Just like the "outer planets" form their own grouping, we have NEW groupings that become the outer-planets TO the outer-planets now.

PLUTO was instrumental in this discovery, and is considered part of the lead OF these newest outer-reaches. Was a portal.

Metaphysically, the further the bodies go OUT, the more refined their energies become.

Since humans have been evolving, there are more persons who are adept at picking-up the energies.

Kind of like Universal Higher Wi-Fi?
If you're wired for it, you perceive it.

Thanks for this information and the graphics.

posted January 18, 2020 01:25 PM            

But what if a person claims they are Plutonian based upon Pluto?

So if I use Nessus with an orb of 10 for a conjunction, etc., I could be a Nessian?

I was thinking about asteroid posts being allowed in the main forum since Pluto is allowed, not the other way around.

After all, check all the posts about Pluto and people claiming to be Plutonian, etc.

Either it's the asteroid's influence or something else is providing the Plutonian influence.

posted January 18, 2020 02:19 PM            

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Originally posted by SecretGeek:
If the main effect is the result of an asteroid named Pluto, orbs should likely not be normal unless you do it for all asteroids.

Possibly increase or decrease the orb relative to mass, for example.

But if an asteroid like Pluto is in Scorpio, for example, maybe widen the orb from 1 to 3 or so. But certainly not normal like for Jupiter.

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Its never been an asteroid to astrologers though, has it? And even if it is, if the effect is there, the effect is there.

posted January 18, 2020 03:19 PM            

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Originally posted by anonymidarkness:
Its never been an asteroid to astrologers though, has it? And even if it is, if the effect is there, the effect is there.

Well, even Mercury and the rest of the personal bunch are not of much size in comparison to Jupiter, should be the orbs be reduced for them too?

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I don't think so, but it doesn't mean we are correct in evaluating Pluto with orbs greater than 1 or 2.

I'm confident most astrologers use orbs for the Pluto asteroid greater than other asteroids, erroneously.

The Plutonian effect may not be due to the asteroid Pluto.

If it is due to the asteroid Pluto, then there are many other asteroids that can deliver similar effects.

I think Mercury orbs could be reduced but it's even larger than Pluto.

But Pluto is so far out relative to Mercury, the difference can be much larger.

Even Wikipedia has both Ceres and Pluto listed as dwarf planets so if one's an asteroid, the other is too:

Ceres (dwarf planet) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ceres_(dwarf_planet)

posted January 18, 2020 03:28 PM            

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Originally posted by Librapurr:
Who said Pluto is asteroid?! It’s not.
“The International Astronomical Union (IAU) downgraded the status of Pluto to that of a dwarf planet because it did not meet the three criteria the IAU uses to define a full-sized planet. Essentially Pluto meets all the criteria except one- it “has not cleared its neighboring region of other objects.” (https://www.loc.gov/everyday-mysteries/item/why-is-pluto-no-longer-a-planet/)

If astrology is about the size, we should use a different orbit’s criteria for all planets. (they all are different sizes!)
Actually, it would make a lot of sense, but we’d need to create the new Astrology science.

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posted January 18, 2020 03:29 PM            

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Originally posted by Librapurr:
SecretGeek, you need to stop spread the false science without any links on the scientific related sources.
Pluto has never been officially classified as an Astroid.

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posted January 18, 2020 03:45 PM            

"Pluto cannot be classified an asteroid because “there is no asteroid belt known beyond Neptune for which Pluto can serve as a charter member,” Littmann suggests."

That article was over 20 years ago. Look what else we have discovered since then:

posted January 18, 2020 03:48 PM            

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Originally posted by SecretGeek:
I've left plenty of links. If Ceres is an asteroid, so is Pluto.

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posted January 18, 2020 03:58 PM            

If I were you, I would not mess with Pluto.

Plus.

https://www.space.com/pluto-still-a-planet-nasa-chief-says.html