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hypatia238
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posted January 19, 2020 05:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Pluto is truly a journey of internal transformation, it makes you realize personal growth and change are possible but this sort of change that leads to real transformation, that is lasting and sticks I feel involves quite a long process of making mistakes and walking through fire and does not happen over night, at least not the whole picture of it as is multilayered, it can take over a decade for these internal changes and lessons to be fully integrated as Pluto transits each house.

I invite you to use this thread to help you journal and reflect on your experience so far with Pluto transiting through the houses. Feel free to add updates and make changes as you gain deeper insight.

Here is my experience of Pluto transiting through my 1H:

Okay so Pluto is truly leaving my 1H and conjuncting under 1d my 2H cusp. I have to say its very odd but as Pluto wraps up with my 1H I am noticing some interesting things. Is almost like I can see with clarity everything this transit has taught me. Also I find myself no longer caring about certain things, and key things I use to overvalue I seem to no longer value. Its an interesting time for sure.

During Pluto transiting my 1H I learned a lot about the 7H, this is what is also odd but I had to learn a lot about the 7H to reclaim by 1H as weird as that sounds. Pluto through the 1H was quite the interesting Journey and I feel it going through my 2H will be a super interesting journey too, I am looking forward to transforming my 2H and clearing the clutter there.

During my Pluto transit to the 1H:

1. I overcome my tendency to obsess and over value the person I desire or claim to be in love with and moved towards valuing myself first and more as Pluto conjuncts my 2H cusp, seeking internal validation instead, knowing my worth. This will continue to grow I imagine as transit Pluto navigates through my 2H. I feel is shifting from seeking validation from others through intense romantic relationships to seeking it more in a 2H type of way through my career or starting a business, wanting to achieve and create something tangible. Seeking validation of my worth through growing in my skills and using my skills to create something or advance in my career etc...

2. I overcome issues around jealousy, this was the first thing I conquered during this transit I feel.

3. Super high intense romantic ideals that I have had since I was very little were neutralized, my values are shifting, I don't value romantic love the way I did while transit Pluto traveled through my 1H now that is at the very end of my 1H entering my 2H.

4. My ex-boyfriend no longer has power over me, like I am over him fully. I spent most of this transit still feeling connected to him to some extent although bond got less strong as Pluto progressed through my 1H. Is like now that tr Pluto is entering my 2H the spell has been broken or something. This makes me feel he was very much a plutonic bond and his role was relevant in my life to integrate needed lessons in the context of the 1H/7H AXIS but now that Pluto is entering my 2H his presence or connection is no longer needed and I dont care to see him again. I appreciate he was important in my life but is not something I want to carry with me to my Pluto 2H journey. There is a theme of leaving romantic connections started in the 12H and 1H behind and not wanting to bring it with me to my 2H journey.

-As for my husband I really do love him deeply and feel so comfortable and at home with him and enjoy his company a lot and this is why we have lasted so long in spite of the very limited sex life we have but also a big reason why we are together is 2H/8H stuff so there is a chance that if this 2H/8H axis goes through a transformation that our bond will either grow even stronger or we will separate amicably. Not sure how it will play out but I feel this Pluto transit through my 2H will impact my relationship. I feel transits through any house impacts the whole axis because each axis is connected and linked to one another, one affecting the other.

As pluto enters my 2H it does feel like been born again and like I am trying to figure out the world again as my lenses through which I experience the world shift from a 1H/7H focus to a 2H/8H focus.

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posted January 19, 2020 05:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nadja     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My natal Pluto is in the 2nd house. It transited through my 2nd house in my early childhood, of which I remember very little. It entered my 3rd house just as I was starting school as a seven year old and hit my IC about 20 years later, just as I was finishing my university degree. Now it's been in my 4th house for almost seven years, as I have been making my home (and my career).

Considering the 3rd/9th house axis association with education, and 4th/10th with home and career... well the picture is very clear and very literal in my case thus far. I do feel like these Pluto transits are so slow that they are almost organic in nature... representing the natural change of a person over time, with only the house cusps representing some form of ending/beginning. It will be interesting to see what happens when Pluto hits my 5th house cusp... in like 15 years, lol!

(Interestingly Pluto transiting 5th house cusp will coincide with Uranus transiting natal MC, Neptune transiting nJupiter, Jupiter transiting natal NN and NN transiting natal Moon... that looks like interesting times!!)

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posted January 19, 2020 06:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Its interesting I met my ex when tr Pluto was in my 12H and broke up with him when transit Pluto was conjuncting my Southnode towards the end of my 12H, I felt I had to break things off with him, I didnt feel in control of this decision, it felt fated. In our composite we have a a very tight PLUTO stellium in the 12H. I feel our relationship was very PLUTO meets NEPTUNE and this is why the connection was hard to server for so many years later after I ended it bc there was a strong psychic bond and we would reconnect in the dream world through astral travel periodically after it ended for many years as Tr Pluto was progressing through my first house.

I met my husband when I felt I wanted to leave the past behind and truly settle with someone and commit, even though I still had feelings for my ex but I gave up on the idea of getting back together with him and had been single for several years and was ready for a commitment. Tr Pluto was at the beginning of my 1H squaring exact my SUN when we met and started dating. In composite we have a big Pluto stellium in the 8H and Progressed Composite we have a big Pluto stellium in the 7H which fits meeting him while Tr Pluto was on my 1H activating my 1H/7H axis.

PLUTO in the 12H:

But when I met my ex I felt that night was fated, pretty much the only person I have met that felt 100% fated and like the forces of the universe made sure we both showed up that night in that spot to meet (Pluto was in my 12h on the Great Attractor), he didn't want to go out, his friends forced him to go out, like the whole universe and forces of nature made sure this encounter happened, meeting him felt completely out of my control as well as ending the relationship, something bigger than me made sure we met and made sure we broke up, this theme of not feeling in control and a higher power been in control was prevalent during Tr Pluto through the 12H, intuition taking over for me and dictating my behavior and decisions was a theme too.

It was also during this transit I had some interesting past life dreams and haven't had any while Pluto transited my 1H.

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posted January 19, 2020 06:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Nadja:
I do feel like these Pluto transits are so slow that they are almost organic in nature... representing the natural change of a person over time, with only the house cusps representing some form of ending/beginning.

I definitely feel a clear shift in focus when pluto ends a house and starts a new house and I definitely feel your personal growth and life focuses a lot on the themes linked to the house Axis pluto is activating. I feel the house it falls in is very important and the transits that pluto makes will impact the person in the context of the house axis were pluto falls in. The "natural" change the person undergoes is very much connected to the themes the house falls in from my observations. They feel organic bc while you are in the middle of the transit you may not notice the changes are happening, it has this build up effect as pluto progresses through the house and I feel the second half of the transit through the house you start to notice more easily that changes are happening and gain deeper and deeper insight.

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posted January 20, 2020 11:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stawr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Love this topic because yes I really do need to journal and reflect.

As many of you know, I have Pluto exactly squaring my Aries Sun. I am really starting to feel like I can’t take working at the school I’m at anymore.

Im going through the classic “issues working with the boss” I feel like it’s not getting better.
I always want my jobs to work, do I seriously need to find another place already while I’m still finishing up school?! Can I even make it at this place 6 more months before summer break!? I think by March the intensity of this transit will wear off a bit and be one degree off. I have lots of time off in the spring. Maybe it’s a sign to use that time off to line up another job?!

Can I mend my relationship with my boss when I feel the damage has already been done!?

I’m also wondering if I should take my last two classes together in the summer? And just get it over with especially since I feel like finishing school is keeping me at my job.

Then my boyfriend dropped this on me Saturday: “I want to wait even longer to buy a house, because I think in two years I can become an on site tech. And that could be in Texas.”
I’m am so sick of him always having something come up to keep us living in this ****** apartment. HE IS NOT A PLANNER. He wants everything to be perfect before we buy a house. Nothing will ever be perfect. I am getting so sick of this.

Life is pretty meaningless right now.

I feel life I’m in this apartment dwelling limbo right now. The next few months I’ll be feeling out my work situation, so I know what direction to go.

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posted January 20, 2020 11:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Stawr what house is transit pluto falling in for you right now?

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posted January 20, 2020 12:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stawr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by hypatia238:
Stawr what house is transit pluto falling in for you right now?

9th house! Besides my boss issues, I really like Pluto here. I am traveling way more. And for the first time I have been a straight A student!
I can't wait for Pluto to more in the latest degrees because I have Saturn in Capricorn 24 degrees.

That's another reason why I can't stand my boss being counterproductive to my time at work, because I'm suppose to tend to my online classes when I get home.
My mom cheered me up yesterday and asked me if my boss is going through menopause? You know what she might be....but my mom didn't act any crazier when she hit menopause.

Even when I succeed with out my boss having "a say" in it. She still comes up with ways to try to make me co-dependent on her and the other teachers.
I know it's bad when I make my mom say "she has issues"

2015-2016 Was "don't let a lead teacher you are helping abuse their power to you" when I was an assistant teacher
2016-2018 Was don't take your co-workers ****
2018-2019: was don't take your assistant's ****
2019-20?: is now don't take your boss' **** . Really!?!?!??! XD

I AM SO TIRED OF DOING THIS. LOL

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posted January 20, 2020 12:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stawr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Great details hypatia138

I think Pluto in the 1st house might be one of my last Pluto transits ever since I'll be mostly in my 80's.

Isn't it crazy that we won't experience Pluto in every house in our lifetime? Sometimes I take comfort in knowing that. XD

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posted January 20, 2020 01:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stawr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Nadja:
My natal Pluto is in the 2nd house. It transited through my 2nd house in my early childhood, of which I remember very little. It entered my 3rd house just as I was starting school as a seven year old and hit my IC about 20 years later, just as I was finishing my university degree. Now it's been in my 4th house for almost seven years, as I have been making my home (and my career).

Considering the 3rd/9th house axis association with education, and 4th/10th with home and career... well the picture is very clear and very literal in my case thus far. I do feel like these Pluto transits are so slow that they are almost organic in nature... representing the natural change of a person over time, with only the house cusps representing some form of ending/beginning. It will be interesting to see what happens when Pluto hits my 5th house cusp... in like 15 years, lol!

(Interestingly Pluto transiting 5th house cusp will coincide with Uranus transiting natal MC, Neptune transiting nJupiter, Jupiter transiting natal NN and NN transiting natal Moon... that looks like interesting times!!)


Pluto in the fourth house! Lucky!! I've lived in an apartment for almost 4 years and I'm going to be 30 soon. I'm almost done with college and now my boyfriend wants to post pone house hunting 2 more years due to some job he doesn't know he's going to get.
I'll never live to have that transit. unless people suddenly live to be 150. lol

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posted January 20, 2020 01:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stawr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
omg I just looked and Pluto moved one degree off my Sun sign, me crying at work on Friday was the climax.

Well until it does rx again whenever that is.
I will still be feeling this transit of course and it will definitely intensify when Jupiter is 22 degrees Squaring my sun.

I don't expect things to be pretty at work, but I will have my answers about staying at this place.

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posted January 20, 2020 01:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Stawr:
Great details hypatia138

I think Pluto in the 1st house might be one of my last Pluto transits ever since I'll be mostly in my 80's.

Isn't it crazy that we won't experience Pluto in every house in our lifetime? Sometimes I take comfort in knowing that. XD


"sometimes I take comfort in that" lol

I actually would like to experience it falling in every house but I get that right now you are angry and tired and done, I guess I am too curious. I feel that it makes each house stronger in the end after it progresses through it and helps you master each house more, specially if you are an adult bc you have the ability to gain insight during its progression through each house. I feel with transit pluto in the 11h I was too young to gain insight from it so it was just painful.

Tr Pluto went through my 11th house basically from 1st grade through 8th grade for me so essentially my childhood and preteen years. It entered the 12th right before I started 9th grade, high school was a lot better for me socially, tr Pluto through the 11th did not make my life easy in a social level, I just did not fit it in school and felt isolated and disconnected, couldn't find my niche in any school, didn't feel comfortable in any of the 3 schools I went to during this time. The entire time it progressed through my 11H I did not fit in and during this transit I had a number of dreams that felt like past life dreams with this theme of been in exile or an outcast from my community (e.g. I can identify 3 dreams that expressed this theme).

However, I did have a great childhood in spite of this bc of my family life and my friends from my neighborhood. I developed some pretty strong intense bonds with my neighbors who were like family to me, specially with my next door neighbor, we had this beautiful intense bond and it made a huge difference for me, he was home and I loved him with all my heart like a friend and brother, I considered him my best friend from childhood. He was definitely an important soulmate and was the manifestation of the positive side of this Pluto through the 11H transit.

This been said if your Pluto through the 9H is the equivalent of my Pluto through the 11H I feel you girl. I will explore this transit of yours more in the next response.

Pluto through the 12H taught me about endings and heartbreak and learning to let go of the past and unconditional love that transcends time and space. It taught about letting go and ending things with grace and actually a lot of the lessons I was suppose to learn through this transit were fully integrated while Pluto transited my 1H. I feel if you were not able to integrate the Pluto lessons of the last house it was in you will continue to have to work on those lessons in the next house, that has been my experience. In fact the lessons of the last house usually tie in some how to the lessons of the next house it falls in, one builds from the other.

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posted January 20, 2020 02:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Stawr:
9th house! Besides my boss issues, I really like Pluto here. I am traveling way more. And for the first time I have been a straight A student!
I can't wait for Pluto to more in the latest degrees because I have Saturn in Capricorn 24 degrees.

That's another reason why I can't stand my boss being counterproductive to my time at work, because I'm suppose to tend to my online classes when I get home.
My mom cheered me up yesterday and asked me if my boss is going through menopause? You know what she might be....but my mom didn't act any crazier when she hit menopause.

Even when I succeed with out my boss having "a say" in it. She still comes up with ways to try to make me co-dependent on her and the other teachers.
I know it's bad when I make my mom say "she has issues"

2015-2016 Was "don't let a lead teacher you are helping abuse their power to you" when I was an assistant teacher
2016-2018 Was don't take your co-workers ****
2018-2019: was don't take your assistant's ****
2019-20?: is now don't take your boss' **** . Really!?!?!??! XD

I AM SO TIRED OF DOING THIS. LOL


Girl I loooove your fire, I can completely understand why you feel very tired right now. Sounds like you are picking up on a pattern that keeps playing out in your life and you feel stuck and are ready to just figure this out and break the code so to speak bc you feel you are going around in circles. This feeling of feeling stuck and going around in circles is your Saturn in the 9H and then Pluto comes along to shake up this house and help you figure out this negative cycle you feel stuck in and master it once and for all, the process has not been fun or pretty.

I feel were saturn falls is were are biggest insecurities fall, were we feel the most vulnerable bc its were we have a lot to work on and were we have to develop skills in a very mindful intentional way bc our instinct is to not go there period bc it hurts. This is tough as we feel so vulnerable/insecure were Saturn falls, more than we realize bc we tend to compartmentalize with saturn and avoid thinking about this area too much.

So in addition to you having Saturn in the 9H and Pluto in your 9H shaking up all your saturn insecurities/wounds you are also going through your saturn return right now! so take a deep breath and slow down bc you are feeling very vulnerable right now as your wounds feel very raw and in the open.

I give you a lot of props bc clearly you want to grow and work through your saturn insecurities putting yourself in the field of education when you have saturn in the 9th, well is similar to how I put myself in the field of psychology and I have saturn in scorpio LOL, it shows we want grow and learn the lessons we came to this life to learn. I wanted to conquer all my fears early on which fits saturn in scorpio, I remember thinking about resilience early on in my life. You want to conquer your insecurities around higher learning and so you are getting a master degree and putting yourself in the educational field to help kids have a positive experience around education and help them thrive, perhaps bc you have some wounds around not feeling good enough in the context of learning early on in your life. Am I right? These wounds are been reactivated with work dynamics you are experiencing in the educational field. Its hard, I don't know the answer you are seeking but I trust you will figure it out, just hang in there.

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posted January 20, 2020 02:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Stawr, You and I both have Saturn stuff getting activated and playing out in our workplace right now (saturn rules my 2H, Tr Pluto and Saturn are right on my 2H cusp). A question we both need to reflect on is, how do we not feed this karma? How do we honor our calling, values and skills we have to offer and work on developing our skills more without feeding this karma?

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posted January 20, 2020 04:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stawr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Girl I loooove your fire, I can completely understand why you feel very tired right now. Sounds like you are picking up on a pattern that keeps playing out in your life and you feel stuck and are ready to just figure this out and break the code so to speak bc you feel you are going around in circles. This feeling of feeling stuck and going around in circles is your Saturn in the 9H and then Pluto comes along to shake up this house and help you figure out this negative cycle you feel stuck in and master it once and for all, the process has not been fun or pretty.

I feel were saturn falls is were are biggest insecurities fall, were we feel the most vulnerable bc its were we have a lot to work on and were we have to develop skills in a very mindful intentional way bc our instinct is to not go there period bc it hurts. This is tough as we feel so vulnerable/insecure were Saturn falls, more than we realize bc we tend to compartmentalize with saturn and avoid thinking about this area too much.

So in addition to you having Saturn in the 9H and Pluto in your 9H shaking up all your saturn insecurities/wounds you are also going through your saturn return right now! so take a deep breath and slow down bc you are feeling very vulnerable right now as your wounds feel very raw and in the open.

I give you a lot of props bc clearly you want to grow and work through your saturn insecurities putting yourself in the field of education when you have saturn in the 9th, well is similar to how I put myself in the field of psychology and I have saturn in scorpio LOL, it shows we want grow and learn the lessons we came to this life to learn. I wanted to conquer all my fears early on which fits saturn in scorpio, I remember thinking about resilience early on in my life. You want to conquer your insecurities around higher learning and so you are getting a master degree and putting yourself in the educational field to help kids have a positive experience around education and help them thrive, perhaps bc you have some wounds around not feeling good enough in the context of learning early on in your life. Am I right? These wounds are been reactivated with work dynamics you are experiencing in the educational field. Its hard, I don't know the answer you are seeking but I trust you will figure it out, just hang in there.


Thanks Hypatia238! Yes I have been apartment dwelling this MLK weekend.
I'm actually finishing up the bachelors. I got my associates in 2016. I didn't think about pluto being in my 9th house for a while so I might take on more college after my Saturn return (ohmygosh!!!!) Looking ahead to my future transits it looks like I'll be busting my a$$ until I'm somewhere in my 50's. XD Then in my 50's I can settle down and play bunko and be in book clubs when Pluto is in my 11th house. XD

I actually had no interest in college when I was a child AND teen. I was not interested in college until my 20's. I had a few bad school experiences that made me want to be done with school for good after HS. I had to learn through my consequences of why I should go to college. I think that's part of why I cried at work on Friday. "This is what I have been working so hard for?!"

Oh-my-gosh-ya, my boss behaves like a helicopter parent. My mom was a total helicopter parent and I do not appreciate it from anyone. My boss probably doesn't get why I don't appreciate her definition of "helping me."
17 year old me once upon a time, was working on homework downstairs with a friend. My mom checked on me constantly to make sure I was doing my homework. Even my friend was like WTH.

I am two years older than my boss' oldest son. She does not view or treat me as an adult, and she needs to get over that. Plus she only has boys...so I don't think she knows how to deal with girls around her son's age. lol

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posted January 20, 2020 05:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Stawr:

I actually had no interest in college when I was a child AND teen. I was not interested in college until my 20's. I had a few bad school experiences that made me want to be done with school for good after HS. I had to learn through my consequences of why I should go to college. I think that's part of why I cried at work on Friday. "This is what I have been working so hard for?!"

Oh-my-gosh-ya, my boss behaves like a helicopter parent. My mom was a total helicopter parent and I do not appreciate it from anyone. My boss probably doesn't get why I don't appreciate her definition of "helping me."
17 year old me once upon a time, was working on homework downstairs with a friend. My mom checked on me constantly to make sure I was doing my homework. Even my friend was like WTH.


I think your boss reminds you of your mother, Saturn rules your moon after all and you have Saturn along with your moon too in your 9H, or does your moon fall in another house?. So your boss is triggering past childhood stuff connected to your mother and you may be reacting to her more intensely because of this, just a thought to explore. Nobody likes to be micro managed though but she triggers you more bc she reminds you of your mother. Your Boss I feel is suppose to learn too about leadership and learning to mentor and let go instead of micro-managing. I bet your boss is struggling with her own plutonic side (e.g. anxiety, compulsion, obsession, control issues, perfectionism) and has a hard time not being controlling, even if she perhaps would like to step back more. Ultimately this ties to your dynamics with your mother, you carry this energy from back then of the dynamics with her and without realizing it or wanting any of it end up recreating similar dynamics in your current life bc that energy is still following you around and hasn't been healed and transmuted.

I love your response it really gives us a glimpse of your saturn in the 9th journey and how is tying in to transit pluto in your 9th house shaking all that up.

I am so proud of you for going back to school in spite of the negative experiences you have had and not wanting to do it, that takes a lot of courage and wisdom.

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Pluto in my 1st house- I graduated high school, went to college, graduated college, and got married. Had two children. Bought three houses and sold two somewhere in that transit. Became an adult and really delineated myself as an individual, distinct from my parents, my sister, everyone.

Pluto has been in my 2nd house since 2007. That was the year my (now ex) husband and I decided we had moved back to the wrong place, and needed to return to the previous state. I solidified where I wanted to raise our young family. We sold our house and moved cross country a third time. My husband completed law school, and we worked on building a life path. That disintegrated quickly, we separated, divorced, and I went back to school. I went back to work full time, graduated with my masters, bought a house, started a business... and I am still here- working full time at one job, part time at another, raising two kids with a completely uncooperative coparent, and trying to figure out what the hell I do next to get my true career going.

Pluto is currently approaching my Moon (2 degrees away), opposite Jupiter and Sun, and trine my Mars. It will be like this for the next two years. I am completely stagnant and totally unaware of what I even want to do, devoid of energy to do anything anyway. Thanks Saturn for joining the party.

It will move to my 3rd house in 2023 or so. At least Saturn will move away.

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posted January 21, 2020 12:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by StoneMoon:
Pluto in my 1st house- I graduated high school, went to college, graduated college, and got married. Had two children. Bought three houses and sold two somewhere in that transit. Became an adult and really delineated myself as an individual, distinct from my parents, my sister, everyone.

Pluto has been in my 2nd house since 2007. That was the year my (now ex) husband and I decided we had moved back to the wrong place, and needed to return to the previous state. I solidified where I wanted to raise our young family. We sold our house and moved cross country a third time. My husband completed law school, and we worked on building a life path. That disintegrated quickly, we separated, divorced, and I went back to school. I went back to work full time, graduated with my masters, bought a house, started a business... and I am still here- working full time at one job, part time at another, raising two kids with a completely uncooperative coparent, and trying to figure out what the hell I do next to get my true career going.

Pluto is currently approaching my Moon (2 degrees away), opposite Jupiter and Sun, and trine my Mars. It will be like this for the next two years. I am completely stagnant and totally unaware of what I even want to do, devoid of energy to do anything anyway. Thanks Saturn for joining the party.

It will move to my 3rd house in 2023 or so. At least Saturn will move away.


Well it sounds like transit Pluto through the second wants you find out what you are made of and capable of doing on your own. I mean after you divorced him you went back to school and got your master's degree and then bought yourself a house that is under your name only since you are single...Its been hard as you work two jobs and are trying to figure out how to get to a better place financially while living a life inline with your values/interests which prompted you to start your own business along with the fact that pluto in the second I feel likes the idea of creating something that is their own and is tangible and they can build up from the ground.

You mentioned a lot of moving around which makes me think of Uranus more than PLUTO. Like when my partner and I moved around across the country twice I had transit Uranus in my 4H, add that in davison we have Uranus conjunct IC. I wonder if your composite or davison reflect this and if transit uranus also played a role in this. What house is tr uranus at right now?

With transit Pluto conjuncting your moon and activating your jupiter, sun and mars I am willing to bet you will not be stagnant for much longer, maybe your business will take off and get more momentum. Do keep us posted on how this transit plays out for you in the next few years.

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Pluto in 11 in childhood - almost no friends in school, at least i had my brother home. But i remember being alone during classes breaks and bothered by that, though i was too young to remember details.

Pluto in 12 as teenager - still very lonely but with an eager interest in occult readings (though i've never had any psyche experiences), i read many things, from Gurdjieff, Kardec to Tarot, Astrology, etc.

Pluto conj. ASC - ive just started College but i wasn't happy at all, started a depression here, suicidal thoughts even. I was able to jump back from it through writing some fiction 1 year later more or less; and then i was quite happy following years.
Pluto in 1 - finished College, got a structured Job (giving up some dreams) and had an crash accident. I don't feel lonely anymore, but i have few but close friends.

Pluto in 2 - have just begun this year, i started thinking about buying a House.

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posted January 21, 2020 12:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StoneMoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Good points! Thanks!

In marriage, Uranus was in composite 4th and 5th houses when we moved, and in the 6th when we divorced. We had composite uranus in the 12th, conjunct mars. We definitely had an abrupt ending!

For my personal chart during those moves, it was mostly in 3rd and 4th. Currently it is in my 6th house. I have indeed had a lot of change in my jobs and my daily life.


You are spot on with regards to what Pluto is teaching me. I needed the lesson and I am doing it. I am looking forward to Saturn moving off of my personal points, but I have a ways to go yet.

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
Well it sounds like transit Pluto through the second wants you find out what you are made of and capable of doing on your own. I mean after you divorced him you went back to school and got your master's degree and then bought yourself a house that is under your name only since you are single...Its been hard as you work two jobs and are trying to figure out how to get to a better place financially while living a life inline with your values/interests which prompted you to start your own business along with the fact that pluto in the second I feel likes the idea of creating something that is their own and is tangible and they can build up from the ground.

You mentioned a lot of moving around which makes me think of Uranus more than PLUTO. Like when my partner and I moved around across the country twice I had transit Uranus in my 4H, add that in davison we have Uranus conjunct IC. I wonder if your composite or davison reflect this and if transit uranus also played a role in this. What house is tr uranus at right now?

With transit Pluto conjuncting your moon and activating your jupiter, sun and mars I am willing to bet you will not be stagnant for much longer, maybe your business will take off and get more momentum. Do keep us posted on how this transit plays out for you in the next few years.


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posted January 21, 2020 11:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by PlutoInScorpio:
Pluto in 11 in childhood - almost no friends in school, at least i had my brother home. But i remember being alone during classes breaks and bothered by that, though i was too young to remember details.

Pluto in 12 as teenager - still very lonely but with an eager interest in occult readings (though i've never had any psyche experiences), i read many things, from Gurdjieff, Kardec to Tarot, Astrology, etc.

Pluto conj. ASC - ive just started College but i wasn't happy at all, started a depression here, suicidal thoughts even. I was able to jump back from it through writing some fiction 1 year later more or less; and then i was quite happy following years.
Pluto in 1 - finished College, got a structured Job (giving up some dreams) and had an crash accident. I don't feel lonely anymore, but i have few but close friends.

Pluto in 2 - have just begun this year, i started thinking about buying a House.


I am so glad you responded bc I think you and I must both have sag rising and be around the same age bc my Pluto Journey basically started in the 11H too, it was just for a little in the 10H but not for long and I can see definitely some overlaps with your experience as well.

You have reminded me that I totally got into the occult when transit pluto entered my 12H. I got into studying the tarot, numerology and astrology during this transit, all of it was fascinating to me and add that I have chart ruler jupiter conjunct uranus in the 12H so with transit pluto shaking all that up, it definitely makes sense I got into astrology and the occult then.

When Transit Pluto was conjuncting my AC but from the 12H, I was also very depressed and felt like death, like every cell in my body was actively dying and aching and I felt like a zombie, dead but somehow alive. I was functional and was not suicidal bc that has never been an option for me but the feeling of not wanting to live was playing out in the background for a long time. The cause of my depression was the ending of a relationship that I ended and grieved for years, I was depressed for about 4 years which I feel coincides with the time that transit pluto was conjuncting my AC from the 12H. After transit Pluto passed my AC and was separating from my AC by about 3 degrees I started to pull out of the depression and was born again, no longer in this state of death. To be fair transit saturn and transit Pluto were both squaring my moon when I felt into that depression but the cause of the depression was a 12H theme (e.g. pluto been at the end of my 12H starting to conjunct my AC, death of a relationship).

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posted January 22, 2020 09:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoInScorpio     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hypatia238

Yes, i am SAG rising, 25º!
I have both Uranus and Saturn (from 12th) close to Ascendant. SO, before reaching my ASC, Pluto touched Saturn, then opposed my Chiron+Moon conjuction (close to 7th cusp), and finally hit my ASC+Uranus.

In fact, thinking about the time Pluto opposed Moon, I remember i had to live alone with my mother due to her separation from my Father who was not accepting it at all (my brothers decided to stay with him, and i couldnt left Mom going alone all by herself). It was a very bleak period, and i had to move out to a place far away from my school.

After some months we moved to a better place and then one of my brothers rejoined us. By then i knew i had been accepted at college, but i was apathetic. The following year (2005 and part of 2006) was the depression year (though i was able to do regular things, like my classes). Funny thing, in my writings (2006-2007) i used the theme of being reborn a lot - and Jupiter was in my 12th close to my Saturn and soon ASC (just checked this!).

About the occult themes, it was definitely more intense when Pluto was in my 12th house, after it moved on i was more into traditional Philosophy interests. It was like a savage quest for answers, and as a strong Gemini with Saturn in 12th i had the urge to collect more and more knowledge about those themes. I never abandoned Astrology, however, but there was a dorment phase for sure, rekindled by Uranus square Pluto mundane events - that got my interest back.

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Pluto is teetering between the 9th and the Mc this year 2020. Perhaps a powerful game changer career-wise?

My sister(who has Pluto opp her Asc right now) moved out. I am all alone in this suddenly big house

Pluto is also opposing the Ic(by default of teetering on the Mc) and so I guess these home changes reflect that? But i also suspect a looming change (psychologically) on the home front.

My journey with Pluto started in the 9th house cusp in 2003 Jan.In the whole house system, Pluto entering Sag coincided with a move to a new neighborhood.However, I think I will focus on when it entered the 9th house cusp.

I had tons of promise then for things to come and a new life- whilst studying towards my 1st Degree.The whole stint of Pluto in 9th was a learning phase.

At no point did I build a solid career as expected(I graduated when trans Plu in Sag/Cap was conj natal Sun still in the 9th).

Technically in the whole house system, House 10 started in Cap 0 degrees.And I did start working after the transit in 2008/2009 when Pluto entered Cap.

But it was a career made up of an eager and enthusiastic graduate with lackluster mentors . Terrible but valuable to my psyche.It changed how I view Boss/Employee relations irrevocably.

Perhaps this is blind naivety on my end? But I am filled with a similar optimism about the future in much the same way I was when Pluto started in the 9th house cusp all those years ago(2003).

Now that its conj Mc, can I finally have a career? Can I build something worthwhile from all the harsh lessons learned and appreciated whilst it was in the 9th? I think so

A friend of mine is an undergraduate at age 38. Trans Sat will hit his 2nd house cusp this year(living on a student budget) but it will also trine his Mc axis.

I told him that year 2023/2024 is the likely graduation year. Pluto will enter his 11th house cusp. And guess what he is studying? Social work(11th house subject)

His journey with Pluto has been interesting. It started with trans Plut in Sag square his Mc in Virgo in 2005- very demanding career that got him material benefits but at the expense of mental peace.

Pluto is still in his 1st house technically. And it will remain there until he finishes his qualification before it moves.

My thinking is that Pluto in 1st house is also why the other students think of him as such an "imposing" figure on campus. Granted he is older than most, but I guess this energy adds to it?

He is also Cap Asc though. So there's that too.

Nice thread.

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Pluto squares Sun, Moon and possibly Asc and possibly conjunct IC. (A small difference in Tob can make big differences here). How it’s fair if something not good squares most of my important points in the same time because they’re all close by?! It could be some kind of rules if it’s not a favorable position, they should be more protected and support each other, perhaps.

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Originally posted by PlutoInScorpio:
[b]hypatia238

Yes, i am SAG rising, 25º!
I have both Uranus and Saturn (from 12th) close to Ascendant. SO, before reaching my ASC, Pluto touched Saturn, then opposed my Chiron+Moon conjuction (close to 7th cusp), and finally hit my ASC+Uranus.

In fact, thinking about the time Pluto opposed Moon, I remember i had to live alone with my mother due to her separation from my Father who was not accepting it at all (my brothers decided to stay with him, and i couldnt left Mom going alone all by herself). It was a very bleak period, and i had to move out to a place far away from my school.

After some months we moved to a better place and then one of my brothers rejoined us. By then i knew i had been accepted at college, but i was apathetic. The following year (2005 and part of 2006) was the depression year (though i was able to do regular things, like my classes). Funny thing, in my writings (2006-2007) i used the theme of being reborn a lot - and Jupiter was in my 12th close to my Saturn and soon ASC (just checked this!).

About the occult themes, it was definitely more intense when Pluto was in my 12th house, after it moved on i was more into traditional Philosophy interests. It was like a savage quest for answers, and as a strong Gemini with Saturn in 12th i had the urge to collect more and more knowledge about those themes. I never abandoned Astrology, however, but there was a dorment phase for sure, rekindled by Uranus square Pluto mundane events - that got my interest back.[/B]


OMG you are from Argentina! You know my best friend from childhood I mentioned earlier in this thread went to collage in Argentina.

When my turning point started to happen Jupiter was towards the end of my 12H exact on my SOUTHNODE and Pluto was in my 1H, 3d away from my AC squaring exact my SUN. All that definitely supports this out with the old and in with the new type of transition. Is like I walked through fire and somehow did not die (I feel pluto transitioning from the 12H to the 1H felt like that for me) but my Pluto Journey truly got started when it entered my 1H bc when it was going through the 12H it brought all my shadow stuff to the surface and then when it traveled through the 1H I could actually do the work of integrating my shadow side. I found myself and found out who I truly was while pluto transited my 1H and did the shadow work that was brought to the surface when pluto was transiting my 12H.

BTW I have a golden yod between my moon, chiron and pluto and when transit pluto in the 12H was squaring my moon it activated that golden yod, rough times emotionally definitely. I feel after that I can get through anything but I still feel the effects of pluto transforming me as it went through my 1H but as far as emotional pain pluto activating my moon/chiron/pluto golden yod was as bad as it has gotten for me and I feel I can get through anything after that.

IDK is fascinating, for whatever reason I can see the journey through the houses very clearly right now that it has completed 3 houses.

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posted January 26, 2020 11:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Still want to respond to Aries23 contribution....

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