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posted January 30, 2020 05:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SecretGeek     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was studying Nikola Tesla's chart in the "Neptune 12th" thread:
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/241657.html

Elon Musk entered my mind all of the sudden.

Then it dawned on me Elon is associated with Tesla Motors.

Like a flash of insight, I think Elon could have his Neptune in the 12th house also so I wanted to check.

So I checked Elon's chart to find the birth time was not known.
http://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Musk,_Elon

I'd like to rectify it and have others contribute in this thread.

So far, it's uncanny the similarities of Tesla and Musk.


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posted January 30, 2020 09:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Could Elon be a reincarnation of Tesla?

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posted January 30, 2020 10:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Librapurr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
He likes to do controversial stuff to show off. Maybe, because of South Node in Leo. I’d say his MC doesn’t seem like Cancer. Could be Leo or Gemini?

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Could Elon be a reincarnation of Tesla?

I've found that direct, literal reincarnations are actually pretty rare.

What happens much more commonly is that the Expanded/Spirit/Light Being level of self, will roll together a new Soul with some of that other life's memories/energies/patterns strongly mixed in.

As to why they are rare, the reason is simply because of how difficult human lives/experiences tend to be for the Soul level of us. Who knows that better than a Soul who has already directly been through that?

How many of us would choose to go through that again, when we don't have to and when our Expanded self level can just roll together a new Soul with some of us in it, if there is a need to redress karma, work on lessons, etc?

Anyways, all this to say, that if there is a connection there, then it's far more likely that Musk and Tesla are two Souls that are part of the same Expanded self and strongly energetically and karmically connected (i.e. Musk has some of Tesla within him).

However, if we really think about it, they are rather different people with rather different patterns. Tesla was a heck of a lot more intuitive and inventive in a truly original, extremely pioneering way. To the degree that we have not seen before or since. Musk is more of a businessman who just revamped an old idea and repackaged it in a more attractive way.

Musk seems to be somewhat humanitarian in his motivations as he seems to strongly believe that humans are causing climate change, but Tesla lived and breathed humanitarianism like few have.

As to the difference between direct, literal reincnarations vs our Light Being level creating new Souls for a life, as per usual, I'm speaking from direct experience and guidance about this topic--necessity not only being the mother of invention, but also conscious awareness in general.

Many years ago, I once briefly thought I was the reincarnation of someone because I had a very intense dream of being in the akashic "library" (human metaphor) and being very connected to this past self. Guidance eventually made it very clear to self that no, we were two different Souls, part of the same larger Light Being/Expanded self, but very energetically and karmically connected.

Then, for a while I thought I was a new Spirit mix like most Souls are, but then I found out that I'm actually a direct reincarnation of another self/lifetime that the above person was also very energetically and karmically connected to.

Ironically, a big chunk of former me, went into to make up the above person's Soul. I'm the karmic OG here lol.

One of the guidance messages that helped me to figure this out, was a clear/vivid dream where both the above individual and I were in the back seat of a car, being driven somewhere. The individual who I previously thought I was, felt like an old brother/friend and guide to me. Who was driving the car? Well logically one could surmise that it was our Spirit/Expanded/Light Being self. Anyways, after having the dream I was like, how can I be the direct reincarnation of this person if guidance is showing us as two different, individual beings? First major clue.

More guidance messages and clues came in later on to clarify and make clear and plain the truth. To be honest, I'm actually glad I'm not the direct reincarnation of that person (no offense meant Soul brother), because while he was more or less a pretty good person, he had some definite issues and things to work on. I've been picking up some of his karmic slack in any case.

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posted January 30, 2020 12:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SecretGeek     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Could Elon be a reincarnation of Tesla?

I don't think reincarnation is possible because it would make the Holy Bible obsolete.

I think if we consider someone to be reincarnated, it could be genetic memory.

For example, all my ancestors contributed to my DNA so I think it could be possible to see through them and what they experienced, in at least the part that they contributed and that was retained.

After all, their DNA is alive within me.

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Originally posted by Librapurr:
He likes to do controversial stuff to show off. Maybe, because of South Node in Leo. I’d say his MC doesn’t seem like Cancer. Could be Leo or Gemini?

He seems to do plenty of erratic stuff, so I'd say primarily Uranian like Tesla.

The chart showing Cancer MC was just set (by me) to midway at high noon.

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posted January 30, 2020 12:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SecretGeek     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The first thing weird I noticed between the two is their birth dates.

Except Tesla's birth date was in Julian and Musk's was in Gregorian:


"born on 28 June 1971"
http://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Musk,_Elon

"born on 28 June 1856 Jul.Cal. (10 July 1856 greg.) at 00:00 (= 12:00 midnight)"
http://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Tesla,_Nikola

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posted January 30, 2020 01:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Librapurr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In a topic before, it seems like they decided his Asc is Aquarius. It looks appropriate. http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/234944.html

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Despite earlier attempts to cut reincarnation out of the bible, there are still references and hints to it in same.

Both some Jewish (like the Kabbalists and Essenes) and earlier, more original Christian sects (like the Gnostics) actively believed in and taught reincarnation and karmic concepts.

As to some references in same that seem to speak to reincarnation, take Yeshua and the healing of the blind man who had been blind from birth. The disciples go up to Yeshua and ask him, "Who did sin, this man, or his parents that he be born blind?"

Now, if the man had been born blind, how could he have sinned, unless he had lived or been connected to a previous life? Bit of a logic conundrum there that should make one stop and think a bit more deeper...

Or, take Yohannan ("John") the Baptist. One of the prophecies involved in the Messiah's coming was that of Elijah coming again and preparing the way for the Messiah.

Some people thought John might be the Messiah, but he told them no. Some people thought that Yeshua might be Elijah come again, but he ignored the question.

Shortly after Yohannan's beheading, the disciples bring up the prophecy of Elijah suppose to be reappearing before and preparing the way for the Messiah (i.e. Yeshua), and Yeshua tells them that he already came and that people did to him whatever they wanted and similar as they will do to him later.

After, the disciples realized that he was talking about Yohannan, his blood cousin.

i.e., Yohannan was the fulfillment of that prophecy, and connected to Elijah and that same larger Spirit.

However, note that someone asked Yohannan if we was Elijah come again, and he said no.

This was because, Yohannan was not the literal, direct reincarnation of Elijah (which as I've mentioned is actually a fairly rare occurrence), but rather, Elijah and Yohannan are two different, but very connected Souls within and part of the same larger Spirit self.

A Spirit self, when it comes to human connected Souls and lifetimes, can have hundreds to thousands of Souls that it has created and projected out from itself. Most of these Souls though, have only lived one to a few human lifetimes themselves.

In the OT, one can easily argue that such teachings as "an eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth", or "he kills with the sword dies by the sword"

Are not promoting vengeance or the like, but originally came out of an understanding of karma and the Law of creation that many different beliefs espoused in some form or manner, and which can be best summed up in, "Like attracts, begets, and resonates with Like"

Or, what you attune to, choose, and/or put out, you build up within and/or receive back.

Reality and truth are always a little more complex and shades of gray than most make it out to be or believe. One of the reasons why humans are such collective slow learners is that we have this very strong propensity to a combination of "belief" and being more followers than truly independent types.

This combo leads to a lot of continuing dogma.

Yeshua advised, and I likewise advise, that if you really want to know the truth of something, go deep within and DIRECTLY commune and communicate with the Creative Forces and ask these what is true or not.

I have made this a conscious practice for many years, and is why self has the knowledge and awareness that self has (it is not of me, but of guidance), because I was not overly focused on or invested in the dogma and beliefs of fellow humans, with perhaps the exception of Cayce's work. And in that case solely because that work was almost like a direct pipeline from guidance to humans and there is so much verification, holism, and vastness in that work.

Being a Cap Sun and Mercury, with Saturn in Virgo and strong Jupiter-Mercury combo otherwise, I go where the evidence and truth leads. I try not to lead the truth, as do most humans.

I am not particularly humble as humans typically count it (they usually mistake humility for modesty or not thinking well of self). I speak well, and even sometimes over much of self, (in a true Leo Rising fashion.. however, I am truly humble in the sense that I know that my personality/conscious mind level is lacking and knows very little in and of itself, and so I have learned to ASK and LISTEN to those voices/sources that are far more aware and wise than self. In that, a true humility is and can be found.

In this world and in connection with a body, it is one of the only paths to true wisdom. Those who rely on self and/or intellect alone, rarely ever come to true wisdom UNLESS they live lives of unusual attunement to Love and in positive service to others. That is the only other way to true and deep wisdom.

And prayer without deep meditation is not particularly useful or balanced, and neither is meditation without prayer particularly useful or balanced. It takes a practice combo of both to walk that path of gaining wisdom. A really simplified version of this is that, "prayer is talking to the Creator, and meditation is listening to what the Creator answers back". Without both in combo, it's unbalanced and lacking.

So go deep within your own closest SecretGeek and gain the deeper truths from those far wiser than self (like the Creator, Yeshua, and the collective of Co-Creators) and the truth shall set you free.

The caveat is that one has to ask questions with no preconceptions or beliefs of any kind. Blank, beginners mind. Ask as if you are hearing the concept for the first time and you're a child seeking to know the truth.

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posted January 30, 2020 01:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SecretGeek     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Librapurr:
In a topic before, it seems like they decided his Asc is Aquarius. It looks appropriate. http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/234944.html


Thank-you for the link.


From the other thread and the notes in the following link, I have updated the chart to as close as I could, to my knowledge.

"Birth time unknown. Starkman rectified to 20.42.36 EET Asc 19Aqu56'"
http://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Musk,_Elon

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posted January 30, 2020 01:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dons2angelss     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by SecretGeek:
He seems to do plenty of erratic stuff, so I'd say primarily Uranian like Tesla.

The chart showing Cancer MC was just set (by me) to midway at high noon.


I remember my past lives including the most previous and no one in my current family, who was old enough to have been there, was there.

I'd definitely put one of his angles in Aquarius. Maybe the ascendant or MC.

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posted January 30, 2020 01:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SecretGeek     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"So go deep within your own closest SecretGeek and gain the deeper truths from those far wiser than self (like the Creator, Yeshua, and the collective of Co-Creators) and the truth shall set you free."


How old do you think Jesus is?

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posted January 30, 2020 01:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SecretGeek     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"I remember my past lives including the most previous and no one in my current family, who was old enough to have been there, was there."


My brother and I were talking in person one day.

He is 6 years older.

He's a Civil War buff so he visited the place where the Battle of Shiloh took place in Tennessee.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Shiloh

He got a very eerie feeling at a certain place close to the Peach Orchard where he thinks he got killed in another life (reincarnation).

I still have the correspondence because we emailed about it afterwards.

We got on Google Maps and located the specific area.

I proceeded to find all the soldiers on both sides with the same surname that could have been in the same area that were killed.

Also, the soldiers with different surnames but surnames that were also in the family tree.

There were many candidates, even with relatively rare surnames.

So even though we share the same ancestry, he could recall it and I couldn't.

Something in his DNA was different than mine.

Likely the way the DNA combines at conception.

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posted January 30, 2020 01:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by GalacticCoreExplosion:
Despite earlier attempts to cut reincarnation out of the bible, there are still references and hints to it in same.

Both some Jewish (like the Kabbalists and Essenes) and earlier, more original Christian sects (like the Gnostics) [b]actively believed in and taught reincarnation and karmic concepts.

As to some references in same that seem to speak to reincarnation, take Yeshua and the healing of the blind man who had been blind from birth. The disciples go up to Yeshua and ask him, "Who did sin, this man, or his parents that he be born blind?"

Now, if the man had been born blind, how could he have sinned, unless he had lived or been connected to a previous life? Bit of a logic conundrum there that should make one stop and think a bit more deeper...

Or, take Yohannan ("John") the Baptist. One of the prophecies involved in the Messiah's coming was that of Elijah coming again and preparing the way for the Messiah.

Some people thought John might be the Messiah, but he told them no. Some people thought that Yeshua might be Elijah come again, but he ignored the question.

Shortly after Yohannan's beheading, the disciples bring up the prophecy of Elijah suppose to be reappearing before and preparing the way for the Messiah (i.e. Yeshua), and Yeshua tells them that he already came and that people did to him whatever they wanted and similar as they will do to him later.

After, the disciples realized that he was talking about Yohannan, his blood cousin.

i.e., Yohannan was the fulfillment of that prophecy, and connected to Elijah and that same larger Spirit.

However, note that someone asked Yohannan if we was Elijah come again, and he said no.

This was because, Yohannan was not the literal, direct reincarnation of Elijah (which as I've mentioned is actually a fairly rare occurrence), but rather, Elijah and Yohannan are two different, but very connected Souls within and part of the same larger Spirit self.

A Spirit self, when it comes to human connected Souls and lifetimes, can have hundreds to thousands of Souls that it has created and projected out from itself. Most of these Souls though, have only lived one to a few human lifetimes themselves.

In the OT, one can easily argue that such teachings as "an eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth", or "he kills with the sword dies by the sword"

Or not promoting vengeance or the like, but originally came out of an understanding of karma and the Law of creation that many different beliefs espoused in some form or manner, and which can be best summed up in, "Like attracts, begets, and resonates with Like"

Or, what you attune to, choose, and/or put out, you build up within and/or receive back.

Reality and truth are always a little more complex and shades of gray than most make it out to be or believe. One of the reasons why humans are just collective slow learns is that we have this very strong propensity to a combination of "belief" and being more followers than truly independent types.

This combo leads to a lot of continuing dogma.

Yeshua advised, and I likewise advise, that if you really want to know the truth of something, go deep within and DIRECTLY commune and communicate with the Creative Forces and ask these what is true or not.

I have made this a conscious practice for many years, and is why self has the knowledge and awareness that self has (it is not of me, but of guidance), because I was not overly focused on or invested in the dogma and beliefs of fellow humans, with perhaps the exception of Cayce's work. And in that case solely because that work was almost like a direct pipeline from guidance to humans and there is so much verification, holism, and vastness in that work.

Being a Cap Sun and Mercury, with Saturn in Virgo and strong Jupiter-Mercury combo otherwise, I go where the evidence and truth leads. I try not to lead the truth, as do most humans.

I am not particularly humble as humans typically count it (they usually mistake humility for modesty or not thinking well of self). I speak well, and even sometimes over much of self, (in a true Leo Rising fashion.. however, I am truly humble in the sense that I know that my personality/conscious mind level is lacking and knows very little in and of itself, and so I have learned to ASK and LISTEN to those voices/sources that are far more aware and wise than self. In that, a true humility is and can be found.

In this world and in connection with a body, it is one of the only paths to true wisdom. Those who rely on self and/or intellect alone, rarely ever come to true wisdom UNLESS they live lives of unusual attunement to Love and in positive service to others. That is the only other way to true and deep wisdom.

And prayer without deep meditation is not particularly useful or balanced, and neither is meditation without prayer particularly useful or balanced. It takes a practice combo of both to walk that path of gaining wisdom. A really simplified version of this is that, "prayer is talking to the Creator, and meditation is listening to what the Creator answers back". Without both in combo, it's unbalanced and lacking.

So go deep within your own closest SecretGeek and gain the deeper truths from those far wiser than self (like the Creator, Yeshua, and the collective of Co-Creators) and the truth shall set you free.

The caveat is that one has to ask questions with no preconceptions or beliefs of any time. Blank, beginners mind. Ask as if you are hearing the concept for the first time and you're a child seeking to know the truth.[/B]


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posted January 30, 2020 02:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SecretGeek     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"I'd definitely put one of his angles in Aquarius. Maybe the ascendant or MC."


Or it could be Uranus on one of the angles.

My hunch is his Neptune is in the 12th house, which is one reason why I created this thread.

One new clue to use to rectify is, I think he could have gotten his girlfriend pregnant, so it could be possible to estimate the birth date of the child (5th house).

"On 8 January 2020, Boucher announced that she was pregnant with her first child. Her partner, Elon Musk, is rumored to be the father, although this has not been yet confirmed by either Boucher or Musk."
http://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Grimes

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Originally posted by SecretGeek:
"So go deep within your own closest SecretGeek and gain the deeper truths from those far wiser than self (like the Creator, Yeshua, and the collective of Co-Creators) and the truth shall set you free."


How old do you think Jesus is?


Yeshua you mean. His name wasn't ever actually "Jesus". He and his people spoke primarily Aramaic, Yeshua is Aramaic. Would you call a friend from Puerto Rico who was born with the name Jose, Joe, just because it's more familiar and convenient for you? Seems a little disrespectful to me personally.

There are different ways to answer this question. In a purely material sense, of having been born of a woman etc, Yeshua is currently about 2024 years old and counting. Cayce's guidance says his birth day would be that as now represented by January 6th. Also said that the weather was cool or cold the evening that he was born. The March 19th date given, was given in a Life reading for a woman who had been a Jew at that time--hence the date given in her reading was given from her then Jewish perspective/context, as both the Roman and Hebrew calendars not only differed from each other, but also from our current.

But Cayce clarified that if we were putting it in our terms and our current usage, it would be Jan 6. Also confirming/supporting this in another Reading where it says that Christmas as we currently celebrate it wasn't too far off. January 6th, is of course much closer to Christmas than is March 19th. Yep, the dude was a Capricorn Sun apparently. (One can also figure out his Rising Sign from the description of his looks and that Cayce says that his mother, who was also his Twin Soul, was born under Sun in Aquarius).

Btw, he is still connected to a human appearing form and still interacting in a physical manner with humans. Just on the DL and incognito until it's time to go public again.

In the cosmic/spiritual sense, well linear time doesn't really apply, but he was created at the first creation of the Source, when the Creator/Source first split itself up into the many while retaining it's own self awareness/individuality, and giving these other parts of itself self awareness, freewill, etc.

Yeshua's Spirit was the first of these "children" that had been created and separated from the Source, that "returned" and became a full companion and Co-Creator with the Source.

The result of that conscious union/merging is that the Soul of the Earth and this particular Uni/Multi-verse. One could rightfully say that the Soul/inner pattern of the Earth and the Universe is Yeshua's Spirit's grand artistic work and Co-Creation, that literally emnates from his very Light and beingness.

(Note, since Yeshua's Spirit did the above, other children/Spirits of the Source have done similar, and there are entire unique realities and Uni/Multi-verses out there beyond the boundaries of this one, all with their own Co-Creators who are working in harmony and in cahoots with the Source. Many of us will someday grow up and start partaking in this ever expanding creational process).

Interestingly, some of us (our larger Spirit selves meaning) are directly his children. Others of us are his siblings and were created by the Source in that original creative vibration/change/movement.

In my case, I am one of his children. Some of the lost ones that came into his creation and started mucking up things here, and manifested the physical, reflection level of his creation, are some of the original Spirit selves that Source created i.e. his siblings (the bratty, ill tempered ones).

Because, to some extent, even the Source itself was initially "experimenting" with it's creative powers and abilities. Hence, with any experiment, until you know more, sometimes shite goes awry. Some of these original children, came to think they were better than their Source and better than the Oneness of the Whole, and started to separate themselves from both.

Which began a whole snowballing effect of manifesting negativity and what some would term "evil" i.e. severe absence/lack of atttunement to Love, which leads to all sorts of destructive things like extreme selfishness, fear, hurting others, lacking empathy and conscience, etc.

Good lord, I'm on Fire with Jupiter of late. (almost right on the mid point between my Sun-Mercury 7.4* conjunction, with Sun ruling chart and Mercury ruling North Node, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, 2nd House, and 11th House).

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
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Lol, tis my middle name. GalacticCoreDeepExplosion

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posted January 30, 2020 02:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SecretGeek     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Since my hunch is Elon could have his Neptune in the 12th, as a speculative starting point, I placed his Neptune right above the AC (12th), which would make Aquarius and his NN (3rd) on his IC and Saturn on his DC.

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"...Yeshua is currently about 2024 years old and counting."

I agree. I was only after the year.

Jesus is at least a human (homo sapien).

Physical laws require that a human cannot be older than their mother.

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posted January 30, 2020 04:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SecretGeek     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Interestingly, the man that rectified Elon's chart has Neptune in the 12th.

"Birth time unknown. Starkman rectified to 20.42.36 EET Asc 19Aqu56'"
http://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Musk,_Elon

What are the odds of that?
http://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Starkman,_Isaac

Interesting article regarding rectification Issac authored:
http://www.noeltyl.com/techniques/080531.html

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posted January 30, 2020 04:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kannon McAfee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by SecretGeek:
... Then it dawned on me Elon founded Tesla Motors...

Actually, no he did not. When Tesla Motors was incorporated Musk was nowhere around and his was not a signee to the papers. And so begins the saga of the ego known as Elon Musk which you must see through in order to have a reasonable chance at a birth chart rectification.

Tesla, Inc. was first incorporated as Tesla Motors by Martin Eberhard and Marc Tarpenning. It was their idea, their corporation. Musk only came in later as the provider of 98% of funding during Series A round investment and as chairman of its board. He then used his leverage of big capital to file suit and got a concession from the founders and legal settlement to allow Musk and other investors to be named as "founders." It's a fraud that should not have been allowed by the US courts.

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So I checked Elon's chart to find the birth date was not known.

I think you meant the birth time. Musk is active on Twitter and has living parents and siblings, so it is possible one or more of them could respond to an inquiry about his birth time. However, it is common in S. Africa for birth times to not be recorded.

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I'd like to rectify it and have others contribute in this thread.

Here is a list of biographical data I've composed that I find essential in the rectification effort ...

FAMILY RELATIONS
Mother: Maye Musk b. 19 April 1948, Regina, Sask., CAN
Father: Errol Musk b. 25 May 1946 (according to famechain.com), Pretoria, SAF (accdg to thefamouspeople.com)
Brother: Kimbal b. 20 Sept 1972, Pretoria, SAF
Sister: Tosca Musk b. 20 July 1974, SAF

LIFE EVENTS

Career timeline:
https://www.timetoast.com/timelines/elon-musk-career-timeline

1981 - began writing programs on Commodore VIC-20 and became obsessed with it.

1985 - took IBM computer coding test and did so well his score could not be assessed.

August? 1994 - enrolled in PhD program at Stanford, but left the program after only two days.

1995 - began creating internet startup Zip2.

-->Career/financial boost #1 - Feb 1999 received US$22 million for his share in the sale of Zip2. This is the first financial boost that happen again in less than three years and would show as Jupiter/Pluto/2nd house culminating progressions or transits.

March 1999 founded X.com (which merged with and was renamed Paypal in 2001). So contrary to popular impression he did not found Paypal either.

Musk was ousted in October 2000 as CEO of the company (but remained on the board).

July 2017 bought back the domain X.com from PayPal, stating that it has sentimental value to him.

Marriage #1 - January 2000 to Justine Wilson (b. 2 Sept 1972, Peterborough, Ont., CAN).
- Their first son, Nevada, died of SIDS at 10 weeks.
- They separated in 2008.

Career move - founded SpaceX in May 2002 with US$100 million. This is big-time capital outlay, which makes it an 8th house related event, not just 10th/MC/Jupiter.

--> Career/financial boost #2 - Oct 2002 received US$165 million for his share when eBay bought PayPal. This is a Jupiter/Pluto/2nd event that would show in culminating progressions and transits.

26 Feb 2004 - Led Series A round investment in Tesla, Inc. (est. by Eberhard-Tarpenning July 2003) and joined the board as chairman.

2008 - Began dating Talulah Riley (b. 26 Sept 1985, Hertfordshire, ENG).

Marriage #2 - 2010 to Talulah Riley.
- Announced separation January 2012.
- Remarried her July 2013.
- Filed for divorce Dec 2014, then withdrew it.
- She filed for divorce March 2016 and it was finalized late that year.
This is a very key period which roughly correlates to the square between Uranus in Aries & Pluto in Capricorn, and also to his rise in influence and recognition. With (early) Aries rising he would have married her during Saturn's opposition to Asc and/or entry into 7th house (with Libra rising Saturn to Asc/1st). During the period of separation Jan 2012 to her filing for divorce March 2016, Uranus was about 1-20° Aries, Pluto 7-17° Capricorn. But both squared his Sun during that period, so they may not point to Asc/DC axis.

7 May 2018 - announced he'd begun dating musician Grimes (b. Claire Boucher, 17 March 1988, Vancouver, BC, CAN).

Career Arc Summary:
He began receiving recognition and awards for his enterprises and vision in 2006, with wider recognition by 2011 (Forbes 20 Most Powerful CEOs 40 and Under); then named one of TIME magazine's 18 April 2013 cover, Most Influential 100 people; then at the top with Forbes list of World's Most Powerful People in Dec
2016.


BIRTH CHART - RISING SIGNS:
Elon has been described by his ex-wives/partners as dominating and wanting the woman to stay in a lesser/limited role.

Almost certainly has a cardinal or fixed rising sign or at least Sun/Jupiter affecting Asc as facial outline is squarish with rounded forehead that peels back from brow.

More likely: *Aries, Leo, Scorpio, Sagittarius, Aquarius
Less to least likely: Libra, Gemini, Capricorn, Taurus, Cancer
Forget these: Pisces, Virgo

With Mars, Jupiter, Saturn 18° N/S declination consider fixed signs carefully (for Asc or MC), as that correlates to late Taurus, early Leo, late Scorpio, early Aquarius. Consider middle degrees of fixed signs as well since Pluto at 15° North equates to middle degrees of all fixed signs.


PLANET LOKAS
Solar: Venus
Lunar: Jupiter (day to eve birth) or Mars (late day birth).
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So far, it's uncanny the similarities of Tesla and Musk.

I've worked extensively with the birth chart of Nikola Tesla, achieving a rectification. His correct chart is set before midnight and has Asc in Aries conjunct/parallel Jupiter.

Both highly intelligent, of course, I don't see the similarity at all. Only astrologically with Sun in Cancer. Nikola Tesla had Moon parallel Neptune, a very sensitive person who developed germophobia. Musk might have Moon square Venus and/or contra-parallel Uranus.

I supposed it's possible Musk is the reincarnation of Tesla, but I think that is very unlikely. If Musk were, he'd bear more resemblance, at least in the eyes. I see none.

Are you associating Neptune in the 12th with inspiration, ideas from 'somewhere else'?

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"Are you associating Neptune in the 12th with inspiration, ideas from 'somewhere else'?"

Very good stuff, thank-you Kannon.

I'll make the corrections in the OP.

To try to answer your question, I think it could be my 27° Leo-Aquarius axis (Uranus on NN) influence.

So whatever that would be called, combined with potentially seeing Neptune in the 12th for both Nikola Tesla and Elon, possibly because I might have it.

It'd be like sharing a commonality with another that resonates and recognizing it.

If I'm correct, Elon should have had some type of clairvoyance in his early childhood.

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Birth date of first known child of Elon:

Nevada Alexander Musk
Birthdate: May 18, 2002
Birthplace: Canada
http://www.geni.com/people/Nevada/6000000055758017891

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Good addition, SecretGeek. I've used geni.com quite a bit, sometimes getting data like that no one else had.

I hadn't thought about Elon having any sort of ESP experiences in childhood. I'm not much of a fanboy with this guy, so I'm doing this for the rectification interest here. The things I probably like most about him is the Solar City and his skepticism of AI.

I realized after I posted above that I'd forgotten to look into when Elon came to the US, or at least when he left S. Africa. I always pay close attention to the date a person moves out of their country of birth if that happens. It is accompanied by major transits of planets Jupiter outward (especially Uranus, Pluto) to IC or 4th house contents.

So, looking in the 'early life' section of his bio on wikipedia ...

An interesting bit is that he was severely bullied throughout his childhood, once being hospitalized for being thrown down some stairs.

- Parents divorced in 1980.

* June 1989 went to Canada just before his 18th birthday. Obtained a passport and became a citizen there.

- In 1992 Left Queens University in Canada to study at the Univ. of Pennsylvania.

- Became a citizen of the US in 2002.

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"I hadn't thought about Elon having any sort of ESP experiences in childhood."

Specifically clairvoyance.

Between the time of birth and when Neptune hits the AC.

Around 1985 maximum, so younger than 16 years old say, but maximum could be very early if Neptune is very close to the AC.

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The first time I read an article about Musk being referred to literally as being clairvoyant.

Not what I'm looking for but interesting.

"Posted on November 18, 2017 by Charles Morris"

"The Californian Clairvoyant has predicted that people will set foot on Mars in 2025, and establish a permanent colony there by 2040. As early as 2060, there could be a million people living on the red planet."
http://evannex.com/blogs/news/predicting-the-future-with-elon-musk


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