posted February 01, 2020 01:08 AM            

It would be up to a legal judge's interpretation of the laws.

posted February 01, 2020 09:43 AM            

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Originally posted by SecretGeek:
If fraud was involved, for example, yes.

It would be up to a legal judge's interpretation of the laws.

If you are referring to spiritually, I don't think so because a will would be involved.

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posted February 01, 2020 11:23 AM            

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And what "vulnerable" means depends entirely upon which wall the politically-correct-police happen to be bouncing off at the time.

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posted February 01, 2020 11:26 AM            

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Originally posted by Dons2angelss:
That's what I was thinking. Everyone has free will but, if you're deliberately deceiving someone that would be on you, just your own act of manipulation, the other person is still responsible for how they react to that deception.

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posted February 01, 2020 01:26 PM            

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Originally posted by anonymidarkness:
If you're good enuf with it and the person is dumb enuf, the scales of responsibility might tip a bit, but then again the person holds the responsibility for being a dumba...so yeah I guess you're right TOO.

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There are so many approaches and interpretations in astrology. Bunch of stories like somebody was told he's not gonna have children or die alone by immature astrologists who just looked at empty 5th and 7th houses. I could see how it might send somebody to therapy for years. So choice your words carefully. There’s a nicer way to say everything.

posted February 01, 2020 03:49 PM            

An astrologer can only inform the free will of the native. It is the native's choice what to do.

posted February 01, 2020 05:30 PM            

It happens.

Nowadays, we never know if a federal or state judge is sane (whole).

For example, they don't have judge drug checks.

It's do as I say, not as I do, mentality.

posted February 01, 2020 10:49 PM            

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Originally posted by SecretGeek:
"That's what I was thinking. Everyone has free will but, if you're deliberately deceiving someone that would be on you, just your own act of manipulation, the other person is still responsible for how they react to that deception."

It happens.

Nowadays, we never know if a federal or state judge is sane (whole).

For example, they don't have judge drug checks.

It's do as I say, not as I do, mentality.

MIAMI (AP) -- A South Florida woman who claimed to be a psychic fortune teller has been sentenced to three years and four months in prison for taking $1.6 million from a Texas woman to remove a curse from her family.
http://foxsanantonio.com/news/nation-world/self-proclaim ed-psychic-fortune-teller-gets-prison-for-16-family-curse-scam

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posted February 02, 2020 10:11 AM            

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Originally posted by Dons2angelss:
I saw that case. It's really sad on both sides but, thats extortion. I see two scenarios here,
One being the fortune teller scaring the crap out of this lady to get money
Two, the lady believed she was cursed and sought out this psychic to help her and persued her help repeatedly. Either way, that's pretty much extortion and I don't think that's what the post was talking about. Everyone gives advice at one time or another and I'm sure you've sought it out yourself. The difference is you're providing a service, your astrological knowledge, and the person seeking that knowledge is the only one is in charge of using it or not.

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I agree. Here's an example of what I was referring to:

posted February 02, 2020 08:18 PM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
I feel were you are coming from...on one hand people need to own their decisions but on another hand as an expert this gives you a certain type of power that must be executed mindfully and carefully so the astrologer needs to be careful how he/she gives advice, how she presents information and if they talk about predictions of the future refer to these predictions as potentials not something that will happen for sure etc...This is why in any field were you have power like that is better to teach others how to make decisions for themselves and teach them to listen to their gut and consider all possible outcomes etc...

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Hmm, if you are convincing enuf, some are I think one would be able to literally manipulate thsir actions, ... so I was of the thought line that you'd be responsible right right ?

posted February 02, 2020 08:28 PM            

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Originally posted by manderin:

I mean, if even just LOOKING at someone alters their destiny, I wouldn't worry about the other stuff.

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posted February 02, 2020 08:34 PM            

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Originally posted by Ayelet:
None of the two astrologers, one palmist and one tarot reader I went to ever given me a good advice. I tried their suggestions only to discard them soon enough, or else didn't even bother.
If someone assumes the position of an authority, s/he has responsibility for the influence s/he exercises upon another human being. This aside of that person's responsibility for his/her own actions
A good advisor will not determine what's good for someone, but will direct / help that person find the answer within himself/herself, using the tools s/he has. There are so many ways to interpret astrological data, and in my opinion it is ignorance to assume that only because you are an astrologer, you know more about the native than the native knows about himself/herself.

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Hmm, I remember my first ever astrology reading, it was done by Kannon lol back in 2010, TY Kannon.

The tarot readers have been dang true.

posted February 02, 2020 08:38 PM            

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Originally posted by Librapurr:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by anonymidarkness:
[b] If you're good enuf with it and the person is dumb enuf, the scales of responsibility might tip a bit, but then again the person holds the responsibility for being a dumba...so yeah I guess you're right TOO.

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There are so many approaches and interpretations in astrology. Bunch of stories like somebody was told he's not gonna have children or die alone by immature astrologists who just looked at empty 5th and 7th houses. I could see how it might send somebody to therapy for years. So choice your words carefully. There’s a nicer way to say everything.

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posted February 03, 2020 04:12 PM            

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Originally posted by anonymidarkness:
Hmm, I remember my first ever astrology reading, it was done by Kannon lol back in 2010, TY Kannon.

The tarot readers have been dang true.

I haven't been given any advices so far, just possibilities I reckon, but the tarot ones were very good at pinpointing the position of the event.

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posted February 03, 2020 04:54 PM            

That was the last time that I was on a plane - just weeks after that reading. She predicted marriage dates/ages for us, and she was wrong: I'm still unmarried, and my sister was married much later than predicted.

Another psychic reading, for health, was wrong.

The only person to get anything right, was someone at a spiritualist church in the Sacramento area, when we first moved there. We sat in a circle, on chairs, and put something personal in a large bowl. I put a piece of jewellery in there. I can't remember what was said, when she took mine out of the bowl, and read, but I wouldn't have minded going back.

When I first saw this thread, I thought "No, they aren't responsible" but if someone like that is acting like a doctor, then I would say maybe. A cousin of mine survived cancer (and the treatment). The following year, when she was in pain again, she put off getting a scan. Then she had a psychic reading with someone who would dispense homeopathic and herbal remedies, and this person said outright, no, her cancer wasn't back, that it had something to do with polio, or the vaccine - something had happened to her bones, and it had been released into her body. This person said something that had her arguing with her mother about this, something that supposedly caused it. She followed instructions, and put off getting a scan. She eventually did get it, the cancer was back, and she died that August (2011). She was 40 years old.