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implosions
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posted March 29, 2020 08:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for implosions     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm talking about Pluto, Uranus, Neptune (and to a lesser extent, Saturn and Jupiter).

Which houses are these heavy hitters in and how do you see them influencing that area of your life?

My own examples/questions ...

I've got Pluto in the 8th house. Lets just say I very rarely spend time with people in my Pluto generation because the power dynamics are off the charts. Most dislike getting close to me if they haven't done their Pluto work (8th house). I typically end up friends with Pluto in Libra or Sagittarius gens!

My question though, Uranus, Neptune and Saturn are in my 10th (Saturn straddles the 11th), and I have a harder time seeing how this one works out. I do tend to be pegged as very 'millennial' by a lot of older generations, for better or worse, even though I've had a very hard time connecting on any personal levels to my own generations.

Any advice on how Generational planets in the 10th works out would be very helpful (especially from older Gens)!

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posted March 29, 2020 08:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stawr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by implosions:
I'm talking about Pluto, Uranus, Neptune (and to a lesser extent, Saturn and Jupiter).

My question though, Uranus, Neptune and Saturn are in my 10th (Saturn straddles the 11th), and I have a harder time seeing how this one works out. I do tend to be pegged as very 'millennial' by a lot of older generations, for better or worse, even though I've had a very hard time connecting on any personal levels to my own generations.

Any advice on how Generational planets in the 10th works out would be very helpful (especially from older Gens)!


As they only teacher in my 20's at my job I've wanted to say "Okay boomer" a few times

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posted March 29, 2020 09:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stawr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here we go!
Jupiter Cancer house 2
Saturn Capricorn house 9
Uranus Capricorn house 8
Neptune Capricorn house 8
Pluto Scorpio house 6

I am both introverted and extroverted. I crave adventure and stability. I feel like I grew up romanticizing dream jobs. I get burned putting my all into something like a job. Now I have more of an attitude of make money doing something you can tolerate to support doing whatever you damn please in your free time.

I think this is part of why I like teaching so I can have my freedom and space as long as I can save and have fugal habits.

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posted March 29, 2020 09:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SDragon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, absolutely, Pluto in the 8th house here, except my Pisces Moon usually means I'm the one try and find a quick exit if I feel that the others haven't done their work. As the Pluto in Scorpio generation gets older I would be curious as to whether we would be able to get along, but they might see me as too old since I'm a Gen Xer. (Pluto in Libra)

My Neptune is in the 10th house which makes it hard for me to find and focus on a career as my aspirations and focus tend to dissolve a lot. Uranus in Scorpio in the 9th house of religion/spirituality/higher mind gives me a unique perspective on how the mind works. Only other person I know who has this was Jiddu Krishnamurti and reading his books is almost like reading something that I could have written, it's very uncanny.

I suspect the Uranus/Neptune/Saturn conjunction is technically what defines the millennial generation - their world view is created by this conjunction as they can see the structure, but see no problem rebelling against it or seeing the illusory nature of it. They can also create new structures that the world has never seen before, yet their reality can be so boundless that they want pipe dreams without thinking about the structures required to create them. Very confusing indeed. It usually takes time to integrate the generational planets into the psyche but as I've mentioned before as more millennials pass the age of 29, they will be able to integrate everything better.

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posted March 29, 2020 10:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for implosions     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by SDragon:
It usually takes time to integrate the generational planets into the psyche but as I've mentioned before as more millennials pass the age of 29, they will be able to integrate everything better.

This is hopeful news haha, as I'm 29 until the end of this year.

I would love to be able to understand more about my 10th house, because man, after my Saturn Return I thought I would get some more clarity, but Neptune still has a good fog over the 10th aspirations. I know it would be cool to do something along the esoteric lines, but also the niche itself is sort of overflowing right now. I'm too Scorpio to handle getting all up in that business yet lmao

Uranus in the 9th sounds like a wild placement- especially in Scorpio. I know more of your generation than my own and I typically get that Uranus on or near my Sun, so I'm endlessly fascinated but y'all are never around long enough to let me figure you out haha

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posted March 29, 2020 10:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Neptune in Sagittarius sextile Pluto in Libra. Saturn in Cancer inconjunct Neptune, and square Pluto in Libra, as well as Jupiter in Aries.

Uranus in Scorpio, conjunct my ascendant. Trine Mars in Pisces, inconjunct Moon/Venus/SN.

I’m too tired to know how to answer this right now.

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posted March 30, 2020 10:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dons2angelss     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My moon is conjunct my pluto in 0 degrees scorpio 6H so everyone born within a few months of me has their Pluto conjunct my moon. I had a terrible time in school because I picked up all of that intense energy constantly. I absolutely hated, and I mean hated going to school and having to deal with it. To the point that I had an appendicitis when I was 6 and was very sick (moon in the 6H affected my health).

Neptune is at 0 degrees capricorn 8H trine Merc in 12H and sextile my moon/Pluto so that emphasised the sensitivity of my moon. I felt everything going on around me and lashed out a lot.

Uranus is unaspected in my 7H sag and rules my Aquarius MC. That one is a wild card lol. Adding to my overwhelmed moon, I can't stand hearing the words "have to". No I absolutely do not "have to" do anything I don't want to do. I remember starting school and fighting my mother (yes physically going crazy fighting) when she tried to put me on the school bus and I couldn't understand why she thought I had to go. She was my mother, no one else was supposed to tell her what to do with me. At 5 years old I was angry that someone was forcing my mom to force me to go to school. I finally dropped out at 16 and got my GED.

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posted March 30, 2020 10:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Graham     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have a retrograde natal Uranus at 29Gemin45, in 9th but conjunct MC at 29deg56mins. ... Progressed Uranus remains retrograde until the age of 105; transit Uranus was in 10th from the age of 7months to 8yrs8months and natal Uranus is personalised by a qcx to Sun+Chiron (at 27Scorpio41+29Scorpio29).

The natal retrograde transit opposed Sun (in December 1948) from 28Gemini32. ... So, Sabian Symbol 29 provides a clue about what my Uranus-at-the-anaretic-degree group are specifically working on (within the Uranus-in-Gemini generation) :-

"Gemini 29

THE FIRST MOCKINGBIRD OF SPRING SINGS FROM THE TREE TOP

This Symbol implies that you can take the best of what is available and make something even better. The 'Mockingbird' is often seen as copying others and therefore not particularly original, however, the 'Mockingbird' is very creative; it uses the sounds of other birds to make a very unique call of its own. There is a great deal of skill involved in this and getting one’s thoughts heard can be quite important. There are often people who will respond jealously. A key question is: are the words or thoughts original and unique or are they borrowed from others without a sense or filter of personal authenticity? Creative potential and talent. Music or sounds and integrating them to find a new melody. Being the first. Seeing potentiality. New songs signaling new beginnings. The joys of spring.

The Caution: Taking from others and claiming the credit. Being noisy. Announcing new possibilities or just sounding off? Plagiarism. Theft. Scrambling to get in first." ... http://sabiansymbols.com/symbol-lookup/

And this specific anaretic degree task results in that group marching to a drummer playing a slightly different tune to the one being followed by the rest of the generation born with Uranus-in-Gemini.
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So ... with regard to Uranus in the 10th ... we need to review what happened to me during the 8years from the ages of 7months to 8yrs8months. ... And this was the period in my life which resulted/ended with the UK education streaming process identifying me as "a working class child who is suitable for a career in a white-collar profession" - thus opening the door for me to become the first member of my family to not be employed as a manual worker. ... Hence, I am a part of the Uranus-in-Gemini generation that was tasked with breaking down the barriers of the UK class system.

However, in my subsequent white-collar career, I acquired a reputation for "taking the best of what is available and making something even better" ... thus fulfilling the anaretic degree task symbolised by Gemini 29.

And, around the age of 8years and 8 months (as transit Uranus moved into natal 11th), I worked on a joint project with two classmates who were very impressed with my input - until they realised I had simply copied it from a textbook. ... So, that was when I learned to always ask myself "are your words or thoughts original and unique or are they borrowed from others without a sense or filter of personal authenticity?"

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posted March 30, 2020 02:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for implosions     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Graham:
.. So, [b]that was when I learned to always ask myself "are your words or thoughts original and unique or are they borrowed from others without a sense or filter of personal authenticity?"

[/B]


Wow, this really hit me, as this has really been in my mind lately. What is my own thoughts and what is just what I've picked up- I've caught myself just 'relaying' information a lot lately, too. My Uranus is in the 10th as well, but I can't say I had any similar experiences with being seen as helpful for thinking outside the box. More often it brought ridicule or just outright being ignored.

I wonder if the only way to work out what my own thoughts are would be to completely ditch the internet for a while. Or ... Perhaps it's just supposed to be that way? Aren't we typically encouraged to read as many books as we can to be more knowledgeable (obviously depending on the books). Or is it a case of just learning to filter through what we know and figure it out.

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posted March 30, 2020 02:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for implosions     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Dons2angelss:
Uranus is unaspected in my 7H sag and rules my Aquarius MC. That one is a wild card lol.

Love that Uranian story example Very apt.

What is the 7th house ruler doing? How is it affecting the house placement for Uranus? Or is it just that wild because there are no aspects to it?

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posted March 30, 2020 02:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for implosions     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by teasel:
Neptune in Sagittarius sextile Pluto in Libra. Saturn in Cancer inconjunct Neptune, and square Pluto in Libra, as well as Jupiter in Aries.

Uranus in Scorpio, conjunct my ascendant. Trine Mars in Pisces, inconjunct Moon/Venus/SN.

I’m too tired to know how to answer this right now.


When you get the chance... Really interested in that Uranus/AC aspect show going on! Rest well!

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posted March 30, 2020 04:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nadja     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Pluto in Scorpio 2nd house:
- I've always had my own resources and that's how I prefer it. I dislike owing people anything. I want to be self-reliant.
- I don't need a lot of money, but I want to have enough to live comfortably. Money is just money, but I'm powerfully attached to things and material comforts. I have an inclination towards decadence, but I don't tend to live above my means.
- I have a strong sense of self-worth and an ever growing self-confidence. Every time life has been a struggle I have come out of it stronger.
- In general I feel empowered when it comes to 2nd house matters.


Saturn conjunct Uranus in Sagittarius 3rd house:
- I never quite feel like I fit in anywhere. Always a bit of an outsider. In a sense wishing to belong to a group, but at the same time not able, or willing, to conform.
- I employ archaic turns of phrase and new innovations of language equally. Equally interested in the traditional and the avant-garde. I enjoy old books just as much as the internet.
- As Donna Cunningham put it, "grounded eccentrics and sane weirdos". I'm certainly unconventional, but I don't tend to lose sight of what is realistic and practical.


Neptune in Capricorn conjuct IC from the 3rd:
- I feel at home with Neptune. I grew up with a very Neptunian mother and loved almost all of that Neptune upbringing.
- My sense of self tends to be vague. I feel like my deepest self is rather fluid.
- Daydreaming, escapism, vivid dreams... Favorite literary genre is fantasy. Intuitive, visual and holistic thinking. Musical and creative.

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posted March 30, 2020 04:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for implosions     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@Nadja that was beautiful! I can definitely see the Uranus/Saturn in the 3rd from your style of communication. It's almost a tangible joy in reading what you post.

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posted March 30, 2020 05:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nadja     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by implosions:
[b]@Nadja that was beautiful! I can definitely see the Uranus/Saturn in the 3rd from your style of communication. It's almost a tangible joy in reading what you post.[/B]

Thank you! That's quite interesting actually, because I can't distinguish it very clearly myself. I do have a Saturnian preoccupation with structure and clarity but I don't feel like Uranus comes through as much when I write, for some reason. Uranus is more present in my speach, when I don't impose as much Saturnian strictures on it, lol!

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posted April 02, 2020 02:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Graham     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by implosions:
Wow, this really hit me, as this has really been in my mind lately. What is my own thoughts and what is just what I've picked up- I've caught myself just 'relaying' information a lot lately, too. My Uranus is in the 10th as well, but I can't say I had any similar experiences with being seen as helpful for thinking outside the box. More often it brought ridicule or just outright being ignored.

I wonder if the only way to work out what my own thoughts are would be to completely ditch the internet for a while. Or ... Perhaps it's just supposed to be that way? Aren't we typically encouraged to read as many books as we can to be more knowledgeable (obviously depending on the books). Or is it a case of just learning to filter through what we know and figure it out.



I'd focus on getting the deepest understanding that you can of your Neptune in Capricorn/10th, because ... despite it being an evolutionary planet ... it is very much personalised in your chart by its aspects to Sun, Moon, Venus and Mars (+ very influential, because of its keystone role in the Mars-Jupiter Yod ; Moon-Chiron poleaxe and your natal bathtub configuration).

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posted April 02, 2020 02:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for implosions     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@Graham Oh, yes, thank you! Of course, it has to be the haziest planet to try to understand hahaha. I have tried looking into my 12th house as well for some Neptunian insight, but it's more of the same.

Perhaps just studying other people with 10th house Neptune Hmmm.

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posted April 03, 2020 03:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Graham     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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@Graham Oh, yes, thank you! Of course, it has to be the haziest planet to try to understand hahaha. I have tried looking into my 12th house as well for some Neptunian insight, but it's more of the same.

Perhaps just studying other people with 10th house Neptune Hmmm.


You have experienced red-line/"difficult" transits to natal Neptune from every planet + Chiron and the Moon Nodes. ... Reviewing the events created by those transits is best way to obtain a sound understanding of your natal Neptune.

Start with the first square of transit Saturn to natal Neptune, then the opposition -> 2nd square -> conjunction.

After that ... look at the conjunctions of transit Uranus and Pluto to natal Neptune, then the first square made by transit Uranus.

Studying other people with 10th house Neptune will reveal very little about YOUR 10th house Neptune.

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posted April 03, 2020 06:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for implosions     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@Graham hmmm, that is true. Although the transits have been spread over most of my life so, admittedly, it's hard to really pinpoint what would be that type of influence.

The only one I can think of is when Pluto was over my Neptune a few years ago, and Astrology came up into my life and my deep interest in it has yet to fade. I'll study the other times though and see what I get.

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posted April 03, 2020 09:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stawr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Dons2angelss:
My moon is conjunct my pluto in 0 degrees scorpio 6H so everyone born within a few months of me has their Pluto conjunct my moon. I had a terrible time in school because I picked up all of that intense energy constantly. I absolutely hated, and I mean hated going to school and having to deal with it. To the point that I had an appendicitis when I was 6 and was very sick (moon in the 6H affected my health).

Neptune is at 0 degrees capricorn 8H trine Merc in 12H and sextile my moon/Pluto so that emphasised the sensitivity of my moon. I felt everything going on around me and lashed out a lot.

Uranus is unaspected in my 7H sag and rules my Aquarius MC. That one is a wild card lol. Adding to my overwhelmed moon, I can't stand hearing the words "have to". No I absolutely do not "have to" do anything I don't want to do. I remember starting school and fighting my mother (yes physically going crazy fighting) when she tried to put me on the school bus and I couldn't understand why she thought I had to go. She was my mother, no one else was supposed to tell her what to do with me. At 5 years old I was angry that someone was forcing my mom to force me to go to school. I finally dropped out at 16 and got my GED.


Ah! I have Scorpio Moon(18 deg) conjunct Pluto(rx 17deg) as well. I loved school until I had to be there all day and it started to be less about play. By second grade I started to pretend I was sick when I didn't feel like being there anymore.

I have Mercury Taurus 12th house too. Ruling planet.

Yeah, I am not a fan of having to spend most of my time/life somewhere. I was not a school person from first grade to HS. I think it would be nice if school for kids was part time. Sigh, oh well.
I feel this way about full time jobs as well. Like I woke up at the crack of dawn to be here my entire day, could you be nice to me?! It's so important to vibe with the people we work with, it makes it better to make the most of it.

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posted April 04, 2020 03:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Graham     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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@Graham hmmm, that is true. Although the transits have been spread over most of my life so, admittedly, it's hard to really pinpoint what would be that type of influence.

The only one I can think of is when Pluto was over my Neptune a few years ago, and Astrology came up into my life and my deep interest in it has yet to fade. I'll study the other times though and see what I get.


Work your way through the Saturn cycle first ... waxing square -> opposition -> waning square -> conjunction.

That provides the full picture ... whereas the Pluto, Neptune and Uranus transits do not.

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posted April 04, 2020 04:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for implosions     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Work your way through the Saturn cycle first ... waxing square -> opposition -> waning square -> conjunction.

That provides the full picture ... whereas the Pluto, Neptune and Uranus transits do not.


Huh. Looking over those transits, something horrific happened each time Saturn made direct aspect to my Neptune.

I know the asteroid Poseidon sits on top of my Neptune as well (and Medusa on my natal Saturn). Maybe you can glean the type of **** I'm referring to from that. Otherwise I cannot see any positives coming out of that, except perhaps when Saturn was in Libra-- in that I did finally have conscious agency, if only a bit late.

So maybe I'm thinking I do need the other transit stories.

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posted April 04, 2020 04:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Neptune on Galactic Center is conjunct my AC at the apex of T-square between Sun opposite Moon in the 3H. Neptune rules intercepted Pisces in the 3H.

Neptune is the voice of my intercepted virgo/pisces which has sun, moon and mercury rx falling in that axis.

Neptune absorbs all this information related to my 3H/9H axis and processes it by using the mind(mercury)/heart(moon)/gut(Neptune) and then voices the message.

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posted April 04, 2020 05:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Graham     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by implosions:
Huh. Looking over those transits, something horrific happened each time Saturn made direct aspect to my Neptune.

I know the asteroid Poseidon sits on top of my Neptune as well (and Medusa on my natal Saturn). Maybe you can glean the type of **** I'm referring to from that. Otherwise I cannot see any positives coming out of that, except perhaps when Saturn was in Libra-- in that I did finally have conscious agency, if only a bit late.

So maybe I'm thinking I do need the other transit stories.



I'd expect squares/oppositions/conjunctions from transit Saturn to natal Neptune to produce difficult experiences.

You need only to identify what happened, and the pattern that unfolded from the cycle.

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posted April 04, 2020 06:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for implosions     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Graham:
I'd expect squares/oppositions/conjunctions from transit Saturn to natal Neptune to produce difficult experiences.

You need only to identify what happened, and the pattern that unfolded from the cycle.


That men are borderline never to be trusted?

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posted April 04, 2020 07:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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