posted April 29, 2020 09:49 PM            

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Originally posted by Kannon McAfee:

- Current focal point: Jupiter conjunct Pluto in Capricorn, which is colored in what we'd term 'detriment' in the old way of talking, an opportunity for increased confidence by those connected to (corporate) resources to increase their wealth and influence in a material way that may lose sight of the bigger picture. Line of sight with planets in conjuction to Pluto tends to be narrowed and obsessive, conducive to blind spots.

- Longer focal point: Saturn conjunct Pluto = focus on control, increase in ambition and control measures by those who are in power or normally exert their power from a more concealed place; a restart of public policies regarding resources and their allocation, boundaries, limits, who should have power.

I'm more interested in the accuracy and truthfulness in how the story is being told so far based on the actual data we do have and what is truly warranted against the backdrop of legality and national constitutions. We're watching a big power grab by the medical establishment who are largely acting as advocates and promoters for big pharma. We should start with accuracy in well established terms ...

Quarantine is the isolation of sick people.

That's not what we've been experiencing.

The stories we tell ourselves are far more important than anything we claim to know about covid19 while it is still so new.

Yesterday I heard someone say to me, "I have no immune system." I compare that to a plumber being given all the tools of their trade, but told to do nothing. Our cells and body systems hear every word we say. They function not only materially, but in consciousness.

[b]We are the Captains of our own immune systems. Let's take control of them more then ever -- including our psychic immune systems!

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Very interesting astrological analysis specially your input on jupiter conjunct pluto, your point about jupiter been in cappy and also conjuncting pluto making jupiter behave in a very short sighted way as if it was in detriment is fascinating. Great analysis, thought provoking.

I am also concerned about how the story is been told and I love your message about us taking control of our bodies and immunological system on a physical and psychic level.

I went for a walk today and was looking at the mountains and thought of you, sometimes I tap into people, and thought about your message of how this thing on a spiritual level is about fear and the battle between fear and faith and how that would determine more who dies or lives (in some level this is part of what is happening in the bigger picture) and I thought he is trying to deliver a message. This was before I read this section of your response bc I did not have time to read the whole response earlier. I went for a walk bc I needed to release some negative energy.

posted April 29, 2020 09:51 PM            

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Originally posted by Kannon McAfee:
teasel, please stay on topic and don't turn this thread partisan.

We're also talking about a virus that is only legend to laypersons. This scientist brings into question whether SARS-CoV-2 was ever even actually properly isolated: http://youtu.be/6C_26ZIUlrQ

This is the kind of thing that goes far deeper into what we know and think we know than most people are ever willing to question.

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Thanks Kannon, I will check it out this video.

posted April 30, 2020 08:42 PM            

I'm having to examine how I too have participated in this mass hysteria, including in this forum!

So this process of waking up to what is really going on and how it is engaging us is one that I think continues. Of course, all of us want us to all be healthy and safe, but it is striking how much we're being asked now to suppress our own judgment or instincts in favor of just doing what we're told ... 'because ... virus.'

I'm still searching the web for other blogs or articles by astrologers on the astrology of mass hysteria, but apparently there's not a lot out there. Too often they turn political or partisan too quickly. However, this one has an interesting take on things (Pluto and fears) and includes references to other reading materials of a psychological nature: http://astrologyclub.org/plutonian-fears/

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posted May 02, 2020 02:14 AM            

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Originally posted by Kannon McAfee:
Thank you, hypatia, for hearing what I'm sounding off.

I'm having to examine how I too have participated in this mass hysteria, including in this forum!

So this process of waking up to what is really going on and how it is engaging us is one that I think continues. Of course, all of us want us to all be healthy and safe, but it is striking how much we're being asked now to suppress our own judgment or instincts in favor of just doing what we're told ... 'because ... virus.'

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Well said! Yes the reality is that as more data comes in we may have to re-evaluate how we feel but for now I agree with your perspective and instincts on this.

Even if we reach 600,000 deaths worldwide by the end of the year in the USA alone 606,000 people died of cancer last year and so far we have 65,000 deaths this year in the US from Coronavirus.

This is however a very emotional topic because we all fear losing a loved one so is hard but I don't like this mass quarantine solution, not a long term solution. Perhaps initially people at risk continue to stay at home and practice social distancing and healthy people go back into the world, build heard immunity and we see how things go and gather more data. It sounds like there are medications people at risk can take to prevent them from getting this, perhaps this is a solution worth exploring more.

But going back to astrology. The first case of the Spanish Flu was September 17th 1918 and what POPS up is Chiron in aries at 1 degree square Pluto and trine neptune although the trine to neptune is too loose. In the declinations which is not my strength I notice there is chiron parallel sun, saturn contraparallel uranus and Neptune Parallel Pluto.

Perhaps chiron square pluto by 5 degrees with neptune parallel pluto is what can explain it.

There is also Southnode Parallel JUPITER with Jupiter conjunct Pluto widely by 6 degrees.

The first reported case of the coronavirus was apparently Dec 1 2019 and Southnode was parallel Jupiter and Saturn and Jupiter was in saggy at critical degree 29 and Saturn was conjunct Pluto (so we have southnode jupiter saturn and pluto connected to each other when this started).

Is fascinating to include the declinations bc it ties aspects together like a missing link to a puzzle.

Is interesting that we also right now have chiron in Aries at early degrees. I have been thinking about this as Aries rules your body, is the natural ruler of the AC and is like a wound impacting our physical body, perhaps is about this attachment we have to our bodies maybe that is what chiron is putting to test here. I am not sure.

There seems to be some parallels astrologically with the spanish flu, I am not saying this will be like the spanish flu.

posted May 03, 2020 05:25 PM            

Current US transits of:
* Neptune opposite natal Neptune
* Pluto (and Jupiter + later Saturn again) opposite natal Mercury

We normally think Neptune when we think deception and liars, but often astrologers overlook aspects involving Mercury, especially hard aspects or transits involving Pluto.

Notice the natal aspects of Mercury:

* quincunx Moon (not in aspectarian): awkward interaction between mind and emotions in which deliberative thought is too easily sacrificed for emotion-based reactions; emotions easily influenced by emotive communications, especially regarding safety or risks (a native Cancerian concern); intellect and emotions not working smoothly together; problems of functional intelligence among a large portion of the population and adjustment needed to find balance between intellect and emotions; a population that tends to prefer some feelings-oriented, dramatized communication even if it is not truthful.

* semi-square Uranus: tension between thinking on a personal level and collective thought; restless nerves and minds, interest in broader/faster communication, but a mental appetite for advanced thinking that leaps ahead of basic learning and basic realities (as would be the case with Mercury square Uranus, but on a lesser scale with this aspect).

* sextile Neptune: harmony between thinking and ideals; a mental process that delves into imagination and empathy, what it would be like for others; but with Mercury in Cancer and Neptune in Virgo there is a practical orientation especially tuned to care taking, health, family.

* opposite Pluto = words too often used as a power tool to influence or propagandize; problems telling the truth; hidden agendas; favoring advantage or one-upmanship with words rather than honesty and fairness in dialogue.

This is a lot of what is being revisited by the Pluto return for the US. We have values decisions to make about this stuff. Will we make pattern corrections?

* Mercury at 17N29 declination is widely parallel to North Lunar Node 18N39. So learning the lessons of intellect and communication and how the intellect needs to hear the intuition and subjective input of the lunar principle is very important for the development of the nation.

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posted May 04, 2020 02:23 PM            

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"... A well-known scientist, who of course wouldn't let his name be used, said it so well that I’m just going to start with him:

'The lack of science behind the world’s response to the virus is the most frightening thing I have seen in my lifetime. We have given up all of our constitutional rights for all intents and purposes live in one of the most restrictive police states in the history of mankind…This is not about a virus—and it’s certainly not based on a scientific assessment of the data about the virus. I voted Democrat and have always leaned left. But CNN, Washington Post, and NY Times have become purveyors of fearporn, outright lies, and/or data presented in a slanted way meant to mislead the masses.' ..."

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A very good article:Oregon Has Lost Its Mind Over COVID19

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posted May 04, 2020 02:58 PM            

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