posted April 25, 2020 12:34 PM            

Now to check my inputting—
On astro.c** I added my normal bday
And in Extended chart selection
I selected Progressed Chart* for today

What the ...

Is this correct ?
Because I suddenly have tons of planets in Libra 3rd house........ 😮

posted April 25, 2020 04:06 PM            

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Originally posted by Graham:
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Thank-you Graham and yes that’s the procedure I followed and then I generated a chart on astro.c**
but I am still surprised

posted April 26, 2020 12:17 PM            

That produces your natal chart; the progressed locations of planets (as at the day selected by you), the day-for-a-year progressed position of the house cusps (as at the day selected by you) and an aspectarian (showing the day-for-year progressed to natal aspects).

posted April 26, 2020 03:25 PM            

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Originally posted by Graham:
At astro.co ... enter the exact time and place of your birth ... then select natal and progressed as the chart type.

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Done 😊

I further read that I should reduce the orbs to 15%
and only take into account the « natal to progression aspects. »
So I wouldn’t take into account things like loads of planets in the 3rd house .. and the progressive aspects within themselves ?
A pity because the reduced orb just progressive aspects give:
Sun * Neptune, Moon conj Chiron, Venus conj Pluto, Venus conj AC, which seem nice ..

Whereas the recommended natal to progressive aspects give a lot of squares, so I am a bit sorry about that.

posted April 26, 2020 05:04 PM            

Progressions indicate our current focus, and transits tend to create events relating to that focus.

For example, a progression to natal Mercury might result in an interest/focus on communicating ... And a transit to that progression might create an opportunity to learn something about how we communicate with others.

Do you have a natal+progressed chart (perhaps of a celebrity born on the same day as you) that we could use here to illustrate the process?

posted April 27, 2020 02:16 PM            

Progressed planets making aspects to other progressed aspects do count, of course. It is just that the natal chart gives the context for where everything is happening.

As to orbs for progressed aspects, the objective is not to collect as many as you'd like to be there, but to consider only those closest to culmination. Don't cherry pick your progressed aspects or you'll be deluding yourself.

You probably got the 15% orb setting in Astrodienst from me. That filters out all the non-active aspects so you can read the aspectarian without killing your eyes or missing something. There will still be some aspects left in the aspectarians that are too wide to be active (prog to prog or prog to natal), but allow them to be read much more easily and spot those aspects that are closest to culmination -- within 0°05' of exact (1° or less for luminaries because they are much larger bodies) -- which are the ones that matter most.

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posted April 30, 2020 08:16 PM            

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Originally posted by Graham:
(...) That would mean reducing the Astrodienst default orb to 10%

Progressions indicate our current focus, and transits tend to create events relating to that focus.

For example, a progression to natal Mercury might result in an interest/focus on communicating ... And a transit to that progression might create an opportunity to learn something about how we communicate with others.

Do you have a natal+progressed chart (perhaps of a celebrity born on the same day as you) that we could use here to illustrate the process?

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Transits TO progressions ? Not sure I found that table on Astro.***

posted April 30, 2020 08:20 PM            

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Originally posted by Kannon McAfee:
(...) the natal chart gives the context for where everything is happening.

(...) You probably got the 15% orb setting in Astrodienst from me. That filters out all the non-active aspects

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posted May 01, 2020 12:31 AM            

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Originally posted by viviette:
Transits TO progressions ? Not sure I found that table on Astro.***

Thanks, would like to Graham, but while I found around 5 celebs, none of them have a listed birth time!
But I am very much interested in unraveling current focus.

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The current focus (for you) would be best explored by posting your own natal+progressed chart on the personal readings board.

But ... the process can be illustrated by posting a noon-time, Equal Houses, Greenwich uk location chart for any of those 5 celebrities.

We need only to confirm that you are looking at the correct progressed chart for the day on which you were born.

posted May 08, 2020 09:27 AM            

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Originally posted by Graham:
...the process can be illustrated by posting a noon-time, Equal Houses, Greenwich uk location chart for any of those 5 celebrities.

We need only to confirm that you are looking at the correct progressed chart for the day on which you were born.

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Illustrating the question :

Ok Graham thanks here is the chart of a London born CELEB (same day and month), birth time unknown, so noon is ideal.
I selected “Natal & Progressed chart” on astro.*** with 10% orb filter. (15% is an option, nod to Kannon)

posted May 08, 2020 09:58 AM            

I notice there is a “Natal, Transits & Progressions” chart option on the Astro site so I dived in.

I can see transits in red on the chart wheel,
but not sure how to apply the chart wheel transits “to” Progressions?

posted May 08, 2020 02:38 PM            

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Expert birth chart rectification

posted May 08, 2020 06:44 PM            

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Originally posted by Kannon McAfee:
I suggest you post the chart image and relevant tables (...)

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Ok good idea, here goes :

posted May 08, 2020 07:29 PM            

- Transiting Saturn semi-square natal Jupiter (orb 01') with ...
- Progressed Saturn trine natal Jupiter (orb 02')

Normally, I only look for a transit and progressed planet that are mutually reinforcing of the same aspect. In other words, in the same degree area where the transiting planet gets a much wider orb and where the progressed planet is within 0°05' of exact aspect with a natal or other progressed factor (exceptions: prog Moon up to 1° orb, Sun half a degree or so). Otherwise, I don't consider transits to progressed factors. Secondary progressions are transits projected forward in day-for-a-year fashion, so it would be a bit like looking for transits to the transits. It starts to get a bit wonky at that point. Just look for where they are mutually reinforcing, especially conjunctions.

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Expert birth chart rectification

posted May 09, 2020 12:27 AM            

However ... the posted chart confirms that you are using astrodienst correctly to obtain the progressed chart. ... So, that part of the process needs no further explanation/discussion.

Thus ... we can move to the next stage ... of explaining how to use the natal, progressed and transit charts after drawing them at astrodienst.

For this, I use the following guide (which I copied from an unknown source on the internet some 25+ years ago) :-

1) Always use the Placidus House system for progressions and transits.

2) Use only major aspects (conjunction, opposition, trine, square, sextile and qcx).

3) Use a maximum orb of 1 degree.

4) Major life changing events will show as "multiple simultaneous major aspects" between the natal and progressed charts. ... One or two aspects will not have sufficient force to make a major life change.

5) At the time of the event, appropriate aspects will be exact.

6) Major events/turning points will register through the natal and progressed angles. ... Asc/Dsc = personal and physical ... MC/IC = Course of the life path, including career.

7) Major events ALWAYS involve aspects to the natal chart ... generally by progressions, reinforced by transits.

THEN ... when looking at transits ... I use the following guide (from the same original/unknown source on the internet) :-

A) Natal planets show what is being affected. ... Transiting planets show how.

B) Transits to progressed angles/planets show a situation already in progress that is now taking a different turn. ... Transits to natal angles/planets show a new situation about to commence.

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For the purpose of learning how to use the natal+progressions+transits though ... it would be best to identify a known past event relating to the chart owner (rather than attempting to predict a current or future event).

In effect ... attempting to predict (unknown) future events using a process that we have not yet used to confirm (known) past events is the astrological equivalent of "trying to run before one has first learned to walk".

posted May 09, 2020 01:05 AM            

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Originally posted by viviette:
technical question :
You mentioned looking at Transits to Progressions..

I notice there is a “Natal, Transits & Progressions” chart option on the Astro site so I dived in.

I can see transits in red on the chart wheel,
but not sure how to apply the chart wheel transits “to” Progressions?

I prefer seeing it as a table 😇
But the related .pdf tables only seem to show Natal to transits (not transits to progressions)

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Generally, the outer planets move too slowly to progress noticeably until some decades after being born ... so, (until then) astrologers/students use progressions for the faster moving personal planets - and transits for the slower moving outer planets.

However ... those born in 1974 have now been around for some 46 years, which is long enough for some of the outer planets to have become a meaningful progressed influence on them/their lives.

Basically though ... what we are looking for are natal planets that are being similutaneously aspected by BOTH progressions and transits. ... (Because "major events always involve aspects to the natal chart - generally by progressions, reinforced by transits".)