Author
|
Topic: Has anyone noticed how feeling anger is ruled by The Moon, yet acted upon by Mars?
|
Leo-Cancer98 Knowflake Posts: 1613 From: Toronto,Ontario,Canada Registered: Nov 2014
|
posted August 09, 2020 07:01 PM
I’m a Sagittarius Moon with Cancer Mars in the 1st House, and I’m very calm. My aunty is an Aries Sun, Capricorn Moon, and Aries Mars, is the same way. So is my 29 degree Scorpio Rising, Aquarius Moon, 5th House Aries Venus, 4th House Aries Mars guy friend. Is it because his Aquarius Moon & Aries Mars sextile Jupiter by less than 0’30 degree?One thing I have noticed though, is that when my Aunty does lose her patience, she has the ability to seriously injure someone. ------------------ Cancer Rising 2nd House Leo Sun 3rd House Leo Mercury 6th House Sagittarius Moon & Pluto 1st House Cancer Venus & Mars 10th House Pisces Jupiter conjunct MC. IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 137372 From: Your Friendly Neighborhood Juris Doctorate. Registered: Apr 2009
|
posted August 10, 2020 01:59 PM
Bump!IP: Logged |
Stellia Knowflake Posts: 646 From: Yorks, UK Registered: Jan 2017
|
posted August 10, 2020 04:29 PM
I've not felt this so much as I have Leo moon and mars (can we say drama?) But can see that holding up in others.IP: Logged |
Stawr Moderator Posts: 4974 From: N. America Registered: Nov 2010
|
posted August 10, 2020 08:24 PM
Yes. My Scorpio moon feels disrespect intensely. And I usually demonstrate it by excluding the person who disrespects me. From being obnoxiously cliquey with other people in front of that person, and not inviting that person out, and them knowing they are being left out. As a kid it was more of them not being invited to my birthday party. I would also have sleep overs and not invite someone, and it was hard for her not to know since she lived next door. A long time ago a girl was really mean to me, but she could see on fb that she wasn't included when I went out with people she knew since she went to the same community college. She messaged, commented, and text me if I could invite her next time and I just ignored her, and I already told my friends how she was acting and they pretty much did the same thing. My mars is in Aquarius. So I know that can be social groups. IP: Logged |
Leo-Cancer98 Knowflake Posts: 1613 From: Toronto,Ontario,Canada Registered: Nov 2014
|
posted October 11, 2020 08:57 AM
quote: Originally posted by Randall: Bump!
Thank you Randall IP: Logged |
mee_chryssa Knowflake Posts: 575 From: Romania Registered: Jun 2020
|
posted October 11, 2020 12:33 PM
People who have Aquarius Moon have some difficulty expressing their emotions and sometimes they have some outburst of anger. IP: Logged |
Leo-Cancer98 Knowflake Posts: 1613 From: Toronto,Ontario,Canada Registered: Nov 2014
|
posted October 11, 2020 02:25 PM
quote: Originally posted by mee_chryssa: People who have Aquarius Moon have some difficulty expressing their emotions and sometimes they have some outburst of anger.
Even if he’s a Pisces Sun & Mercury?! He was the one who confessed with feelings first too, haha! His Aries Mars is in exact trine to Jupiter though, I’ve never seen him angry. Annoyed on the other hand, yup! IP: Logged |
mee_chryssa Knowflake Posts: 575 From: Romania Registered: Jun 2020
|
posted October 11, 2020 02:52 PM
It might be worst, since Pisces is an emotional sign, is not so detached as Aquarius is. Being a Pisces Sun and Mercury, would tame that Aries energy a lot. I have a few friends with Aries Sun and Mercury in Pisces and are not like an Aries Sun would be.I have 2 friends with this placement. - Aqua Moon First one is a Pisces and the second one is an Aries with Pisces Mercury. The first one, I know she had some mental problems - depression and anxiety that were treated with pills - xanax and other things. The second one, always seemed calm and chill, but was treating everything so detached that it felt weird sometimes. He has anxiety too. Britney Spears has this placement and we all know in what state she was at some point. IP: Logged |
mee_chryssa Knowflake Posts: 575 From: Romania Registered: Jun 2020
|
posted October 11, 2020 02:57 PM
Sorry, I just realized that I didnt answer the question. ))I have a Taurus Moon and Venus and the Moon makes me really stable. But my Mercury is in Aries and Mars in Gemini 12th house. With my Sun in Pisces. When I express my feelings I do it by showing the people that I love that I love them with actions - staying close to them, spending time with them, watching films or listening to music, talking with them. I dont really do it by words - like my Mars would indicate - but that could be because my Pisces Sun and because my Mars is in the 12th house. I guess yes, to express your feelings would involve Mars, because it is an action. IP: Logged |
Belage Knowflake Posts: 3804 From: USA Registered: Apr 2009
|
posted October 11, 2020 09:00 PM
These 2 folks you describe seem pretty volatile and out of control, so I would stay away from them. Nobody should be sending someone to the hospital because they are angry at them. IP: Logged |
GalacticCoreExplosion Knowflake Posts: 2272 From: Somewhere Registered: Sep 2019
|
posted October 17, 2020 11:26 PM
quote: Originally posted by Leo-Cancer98: Even if he’s a Pisces Sun & Mercury?! !
You often have to look deeper. Dick Cheney for example has Aquarius Sun with Pisces Moon. Is he anything like a typical combo of same? Nah, the dude is sociopathic. You have to dig deeper than just the Signs. What are the strongest Planetary energies? What are the weakest? What are the strongest, repeating patterns? What is the overall tone of the chart? Charts are layered. Too many people overly focus on the Signs. This powerful, constant focus is a relatively new thing in astrology i.e. in the last century or two. Many of the ancients didn't focus as much on them like we do. They focused more on Planetary positions in relation to the Angles and angle rulers (especially the Chart ruler). IP: Logged |
Dumuzi Knowflake Posts: 3049 From: Registered: Oct 2018
|
posted October 17, 2020 11:56 PM
i have an aries moon cap mars (in tropical anyway) and most people have never seen me mad, i can get mad but it takes a very long time and when i do it's badnot in the physically violent sense, but in the i will tear you apart completely find all of your weak points and press into them sort of way, sometimes i'm loud about it not always though usually not usually i'm pretty quiet about it, and if i'm really mad then i'm cold quite a few people have pointed it out, that they know when i'm extremely hurt or angry because i get "cold" and "businesslike" in my interactions but normally i dont take much seriously or personally and im usually apathetic so it takes a lot people can find me a bit harsh though (online anyway never happens in person) and that's more of an unintentional sortof thing, like i'll say something that will come off worse than it actually is because in my head there's nothing really attached to it usually people say i'm the most laid back person they know and it can be to a fault because then there's an assumption that nothing will bother me and nothing is intrusive etc (lot of boundary issues) i have moon square mars, and they're both pretty heavily aspected and affecting all my angles
my moon is conjunct descendant, opposite ascendant/venus/southnode, square ic/mc, conjunct northnode, trine uranus and mercury (i have merc-uranus trine as well) as far as major aspects go (though if we're counting chiron there's a sextile) counting minor aspects then it's also sesquiquadrate sun and saturn (i have sun square saturn) and semisextile jupiter then my mars is loosely conjunct my ic, opposite midheaven, square my ascendant/descendant, square venus, loosely conjunct neptune adding in minor aspects it's also sesquiquadrate my sun and biquintile mercury IP: Logged |
Odette Knowflake Posts: 7029 From: Registered: May 2012
|
posted October 18, 2020 02:06 AM
This is an interesting idea! I have both Moon and Mars in Capricorn... but my Mars is also conjunct Neptune... and I see that Neptunian vibe in the way I express anger.. because it's usually not overt, unless things really get to boiling point. IP: Logged |
teasel Knowflake Posts: 17375 From: http://forum.astro.com/cgi/forum.cgi?action=viewprofile;username=u36170365 Registered: Apr 2009
|
posted October 18, 2020 10:58 AM
quote: Originally posted by Odette: This is an interesting idea! I have both Moon and Mars in Capricorn... but my Mars is also conjunct Neptune... and I see that Neptunian vibe in the way I express anger.. because it's usually not overt, unless things really get to boiling point.
Same with my Mars in Pisces, square my Moon/Venus. It usually takes a lot for me to get really angry. IP: Logged |
teasel Knowflake Posts: 17375 From: http://forum.astro.com/cgi/forum.cgi?action=viewprofile;username=u36170365 Registered: Apr 2009
|
posted October 18, 2020 11:03 AM
quote: Originally posted by Dumuzi: i have an aries moon cap mars (in tropical anyway) and most people have never seen me mad, i can get mad but it takes a very long time and when i do it's badnot in the physically violent sense, but in the i will tear you apart completely find all of your weak points and press into them sort of way, sometimes i'm loud about it not always though usually not
I can be this way, too. It's like everything that I've pushed aside/ignored, will come rushing back. I won't necessarily throw it in someone's face, but I'll remember. If I say something that makes someone feel bad, I feel guilty - too much. I will lose sleep over it. Even with my BIL, who I loathe. I don't know why, because they have no problem hurting me. IP: Logged |
Dumuzi Knowflake Posts: 3049 From: Registered: Oct 2018
|
posted October 18, 2020 11:24 AM
quote: Originally posted by teasel: I can be this way, too. It's like everything that I've pushed aside/ignored, will come rushing back. I won't necessarily throw it in someone's face, but I'll remember. If I say something that makes someone feel bad, I feel guilty - too much. I will lose sleep over it. Even with my BIL, who I loathe. I don't know why, because they have no problem hurting me.
same actually, i don't consciously do it like "i'm going to hurt you" or something, but it's how it ends up going and i'm aware that i do it in the moment i don't care and it's just like "well now i'm in that state so i'm just going to word vomit it all" and then afterwards i'll reflect and go "probably shouldn't have done that" (i'm not one to think before i speak, ever) it's the sort of thing i can't ever take back because it's all true you know? so i can't be like "well i didn't mean that" because well i did and it's just completely honest **** but... you know it's funny because it's not like i repress things because i've had people suggest that i get more angry because i hold **** in, but it's not quite like that if someone does something ****** once or twice or i notice some flaw about them i often let it slide because i look at it like "everyone ***** up" or "everyone has flaws" and it's not a big deal to me, not worth getting worked up over i typically generally don't care it's when something is just repeated over and over again that i'll start to care because then it isn't just that thing i let slide here and there that's no big deal it becomes an actual issue i feel guilty afterwards because i really ******* hate getting mad or arguing (like actually emotionally arguing about important **** , arguing about **** to make noise or play devil's advocate or debate something though i enjoy) or upsetting another person (who i care about) but sometimes it's unavoidable generally speaking though i tend to just move away from the situation, like just withdraw go smoke or go off somewhere to distract myself and not bother it'll be clear because of the cold "business" thing i mentioned and i'll say something in the moment but then i want to be done and just go clear my head or whatever people usually have to follow me to fight or really cross lines to get that sortof explosion, and it can take years to get me to fight about something but then i'm relentless and don't care (in the moment) i have to be close to someone usually too to really fight with them too and be affected i don't necessarily lose sleep over it because **** happens, people fight, and i do make an effort to smooth things over and level etc IP: Logged |
Leo-Cancer98 Knowflake Posts: 1613 From: Toronto,Ontario,Canada Registered: Nov 2014
|
posted October 18, 2020 12:16 PM
quote: Originally posted by GalacticCoreExplosion: You have to dig deeper than just the Signs. What are the strongest Planetary energies? What are the weakest? What are the strongest, repeating patterns? What is the overall tone of the chart?
According to Astro.com, Aries & Sagittarius are his Top 2 dominants. He’s a 29 degree Scorpio Rising, with Sagittarius Jupiter in his 1st House. Aries Mars in the 4th House. IP: Logged |
hearttreasure Knowflake Posts: 1168 From: Registered: Jan 2015
|
posted October 19, 2020 05:11 AM
My husband is a Sagittarius moon and Cancer mars. Calm? Only the outside look and with people who are not that close to him. I feel frustrated if I spend much time with him in the same roof. Impatient, emotional, the energy is not focused, messy a.k.a unorganized which also mean can't control his emotions, conclusion: easily angry, a grumpy man, blurt things out of the portion (doesn't matter if it's true or not) which make the situation worse. If you want to see the real Mars: - have a little kid around you all day (see how patient they can be, then you may say if that someone is calm or not) - when dealing a long jam (are they panicking, easily angry, start blaming other people, cracking jokes, easy, or just quite enjoying the jam like it's still a fun day) - in a competitive situation, especially the unhealthy competition which triggered the Mars most - with people/situation they don't like - waiting someone or something to happened for a long time, see the reaction Those are just some example where you can observe the real Mars someone has which I think no matter how easy going your moon is, if the Mars isn't in a good sign/aspect, still the anger rules/comes from the Mars. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 73795 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
|
posted October 19, 2020 08:56 AM
Good point. the Moon is the feeler!------------------ Want to Read Simple, Fun,Sexy Articles on Astrology? Check Me Out, DUDE. http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
IP: Logged |
GalacticCoreExplosion Knowflake Posts: 2272 From: Somewhere Registered: Sep 2019
|
posted October 19, 2020 01:03 PM
quote: Originally posted by Leo-Cancer98: According to Astro.com, Aries & Sagittarius are his Top 2 dominants. He’s a 29 degree Scorpio Rising, with Sagittarius Jupiter in his 1st House. Aries Mars in the 4th House.
If his chart is accurate, and if Jupiter is the planet closest to his Asc, then he is mostly likely a predominant Jupitarian. Jupiter is a pretty laid back energy that is intense (passionate) at the same time. It's much like the color purple, where you have pretty much equal amounts of active/physically oriented/Yang/intense/passionate red, and more inward focused/reflective/calm/intuitive/non physically oriented blue. Very balanced and integrated between the two. Because it's a fast vibratory energy, true Jupitarians have a lot of tolerance, empathy, understanding, and consideration for others. This makes for the laid back part. With Pisces also strong, this strengthens the Planetary pattern there. After all, there is a reason why we say that Jupiter is one of the rulers of Pisces. (Jupiter is a little more active, directive, and Yang attuned than Pisces though). Also, interesting to note in a transit sense, that since you have Cancer Rising, and since Jupiter is now in mid Capricorn, it's quite likely that Jupiter is either relatively near your DESC and/or in your 7th House now, indicating that you may attract a strongly Jupiter attuned partner at this time. As to his Aries Mars in his 4th, he very much has the capacity for anger and temper, but IC and 4th House energies tend to be more underground, unconscious, and part of the shadow. Shadow doesn't necessarily mean something negative, but that which is strong but unconscious within the psyche. I wouldn't want to see him get angry to the point of losing it, because he is likely the type that once he reaches that point (which will take a lot), he will see and be immersed in red. This can be a positive thing if say you, him, or another he cares about is being attacked or the like. He'll gone full into Yang fight/attack mode, kick arse and ask questions later. But otherwise, it sounds like he has good control over self and of that side, which is a good thing. I can relate to both btw, as someone that has very strong Jupiter (with some background strong Pisces), with a similar temper and temperament. It takes me a lot to get very angry, but once I am there, it can temporarily consume me. This is indicated by Leo Rising with Sun square Pluto and trine Mars Jupiter conjunction, and a general moderate attunement to Mars. Edgar Cayce's source sometimes would say something like, he/she that has no temper is ineffectual in the world, but he/she who has a temper and doesn't control it is far worse off. In other words, it's all about balance. We see this in the example of Yeshua ("Jesus"). To assume that Yeshua was only ever gentle, laid back, forgiving, and super Yin/Feminine is to ignore or brush over his own Fire, Mars, and Yang side, which was there and did sometimes come out more strongly. But he never let it control him, but rather he redirected it into more positive and less destructive channels. (And one suspects that in the case of the Temple market, he flipped tables and drove people out not just out of genuine anger, but also deliberately sending a message to the corrupt religious leaders and perhaps even trying to deliberately provoke them some). IP: Logged |
Leo-Cancer98 Knowflake Posts: 1613 From: Toronto,Ontario,Canada Registered: Nov 2014
|
posted October 19, 2020 02:16 PM
quote: Originally posted by GalacticCoreExplosion: If his chart is accurate, and if Jupiter is the planet closest to his Asc, then he is mostly likely a predominant Jupitarian.
http://u.cubeupload.com/TravelTings/29C243CCAD0E4A8EAD18.png IP: Logged |
GalacticCoreExplosion Knowflake Posts: 2272 From: Somewhere Registered: Sep 2019
|
posted October 20, 2020 11:04 AM
Though Uranus is technically closer to his Asc than Jupiter, I would say that Jupiter is his predominant Planet because it's not by much (like 1 degree), Jupiter is in it's own Sign, the faster moving chart ruler (Mars) is more closely trine Jupiter, and the Moon is more closely sextile Jupiter--both aspects -1 degree of separation (and both Pisces and Sag are quite strong which also boosts Jupiter). Combination of very strong Jupiter, Uranus, Sagittarius, and Pisces is a fairly good combo for the most part. The extremes of Uranus will still be there to some extent, but the person will tend more towards the positive side of the extremes. He may just be a little over zealous or a bit pushy with his beliefs and opinions at times. Being a Pisces Sun and Mercury should reign that in/tone it down a bit though. All in all, if his chart is accurate, and he has kept more or less on the probable path of his chart, then he seems like a pretty good guy (maybe even unusually so aka an older Soul). His biggest problem or weakness is, could, or will be hanging out with much slower vibrational people than himself (friends, groups, and acquaintances) which could influence him at times towards paths not best for self or others. He needs to consciously seek more fast vibrational friends, groups, etc. By "fast vibrational", I mean more attuned to Love, positivity, positive service to others, etc, and less to ego, materialism, selfishness, and separatism. IP: Logged |
lalalinda Moderator Posts: 5227 From: nevada Registered: Apr 2009
|
posted October 20, 2020 05:51 PM
Hello knowflakes, Your Mars sign shows how you act out your Sun sign, or how you fight back. Where Mars/Aries strikes first and then asks questions a Mars/Gemini fights with words and is clever. Mars/Taurus is stubborn and refuses to budge. etc.------------------ "To be interesting, be interested"....Dale Carnegie IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 73795 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
|
posted October 21, 2020 09:34 PM
Hi Lala A Mars in Cancer gets angry, smiles and then eats a whole cheesecake. ------------------ Want to Read Simple, Fun,Sexy Articles on Astrology? Check Me Out, DUDE. http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
IP: Logged |
lalalinda Moderator Posts: 5227 From: nevada Registered: Apr 2009
|
posted October 22, 2020 10:37 AM
Hi Ami yum cheesecake ------------------ "To be interesting, be interested"....Dale Carnegie IP: Logged | |