posted October 04, 2020 06:38 AM            

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Originally posted by skynote:

Do you know, exactly, what the significance of a Leo IC is? I've heard it means you might've been the center of attention growing up, or if not the center then you lacked attention and always craved it, and that the IC speaks about family and sibling dynamics/fun childhood? I'm just giving my best guess/going off memory.

Yeah, right now nothing of the 4th house sounds interesting to me lol. Of what I know about each house, I'd say fourth house is arguably the most boring to me? (yeah, even less interested in it than the 6th house, haha).

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Hi, I also have Leo IC. People see me as nerd, and little snobbish and cold. Even though I am one of the childest, warm, reactive, playful person in my close circle and family (leo moon, leo Ic). I agree that I crave attention from both public and close ones.
The 4th house subject is also boring to me, I don't want to have kids or family of my own. But also, I am not good at 10th house things. Just like to go with the flow

posted October 05, 2020 08:40 AM            

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Originally posted by skynote:
Hi, thanks so much for responding. I'm nervous with the term "experiences" because so far...a lot of them haven't been helping my mental health Thanks for the words of encouragement, though.

May I ask, can you elaborate what you mean by "spiritual information"? Like, would this just be philosophies on life, or astrology, or self-help books?

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Speaking from my own experiences, which is to say that these may not be or become yours: The first part of my 'young adult' life was largely exemplified by the issues of adapting my own self to fit certain surrounding contexts - this is instinctive mutability, that is to say mutability that has not sublimated itself fully into the intuitive security it works to achieve.

After a certain amount of such instinctive adaptation, I reached a complete breaking point where I fundamentally realized how I have adapted myself too much according to external pressure, which never satisified my deeper soul urges. That point - what some call the dark night of the soul - was effectively pushing me out of my chrysalis.

That transit period was riddled with uncomfortable psychological states, to the point of panic attacks and deep depression.

I found that the most uncomfortable thing about these panic attacks was the fact that they came unexpectedly, and that when they happened, I did not want them there.

I subsequently realized that I could trigger these attacks (in less intense ways) when smoking weed, and that thus I had control over them. I smoked, and I embraced the discomfort alone in my bed - I felt it and I tried to befriend it somehow.

After that, they subsided.

This was coupled with studying a heap of esoteric/spiritual/psychological material - an attempt to understand my larger human condition and how I fit into the wider picture.

After I had gone through the bulk of this, my 'calling' came to me, which is artwork. I am now finishing my MFA in Fine Art and things have never felt better. In fact, the Jupiter conj Sun in 10th coupled with Venus and Mercury really have started to operate as one would expect them to.

As I said, I am quite certain your experience WONT be mine. But perhaps it will be somewhat similar - you are still young.

I don't mean to scare you about psychological 'trials', but merely to prepare you for their eventual realization so that they don't catch you completely off guard. This discomfort must happen so that you can escape the chrysalis and fully embrace the realm of the 10h house as a keenly intuitive and diligent operator within it.

In terms of 'spiritual information' - I think the important part is the 'voracious consumption' of A LOT of information which is quite natural to the Gemini Asc. You will understand instinctively/intuitively by virtue of your heavy Pisces what information is right for you in the moment. Generally I think it will pertain in part to solving immediate prooblems/questions, and in part to constructing a wider world view. Either way, your Pisces attracts/thirsts for the information that is perfect for you in every moment of your path, and your Ascendant collects it and ingests it to your Pisces placements so that they can digest and egest it. The information will probably 'dissolve' in your ocean of understanding and build your intuitive muscles considerably.

All in all, this is a process that probably will take a considerable time. It's basically the bulk part of your maturation process. So don't expect any quick fixes.

Obviously, keeping track of major astrological transits to natal will be of big help to anticipate events. 'Spiritual' information will help you tackle the relative intensity of every event. This 'spiritual' information can be seen as a line-spectrum where psychology is on the first end and esoteric sources are on the other end. Your task from my perspective would be to investigate the entire spectrum - but that is my perspective and it may not necessarily be right for you. Again, trust your intuitive attraction above all - they will lead you to where you need to go, even if that is toward making a 'mistake', this mistake is essential feedback for your wider growth.

posted October 05, 2020 12:46 PM            

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Originally posted by skynote:
Hi, Kannon, thanks so much for the comprehensive reply. I didn't want to quote the whole block but I read it...

Also, may I ask...how is transit Pluto/Venus conjunction in particular so affecting? Does that have to do more with relationships or self-esteem and values?

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I'm sorry for my delay in noticing your response.

The Pluto conjunction to natal Venus affects all those things -- everything Venus related. It helps you get in touch with your feelings (in love and values overall) by intensifying them so they cannot be ignored. Of course, this may prove to be a learning experience that doesn't lead directly to what the kind of outcome you want, because it's not about the other person's response, but about you and what is going on inside you. So in that sense it is very activating (of all things Venus).

The transit is an opportunity to bring latent aspects of your feelings and values up to the surface to be expressed, then see if the results are what you wanted. If not, then it becomes a matter of making changes in priorities, how you operate, who you admire, etc. Pluto transits to personal planets like these often function in two phases where the second phase amounts to a kind of rebuilding or reforming.

posted October 10, 2020 09:04 AM            

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Originally posted by GalacticCoreExplosion:
...you have Uranus as the strongest Planet i.e. you're a Uranian above any and everything else.
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Mercury, Sun, and Jupiter are your next strongest energies. With the combination of such strong Uranus, combined with strong Mercury and Jupiter, you're a bit to moderately more cerebral and intellect oriented than a so called "typical" Pisces. You still have deep and sensitive feelings etc, but you have a very strong "left brain" side so called which counter balances the more mystical and "right brained" side of Pisces. Actually, you have the probable potential to become very balanced and whole brained, which is somewhat rare.
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Also, 10th House energies while strong, are often energies that we tend to grow into more gradually as time goes on and we become more mature and/or settled in the career years of our life. So I doubt that you're nearly as consciously attuned to Jupiter and Sun as you are to Uranus currently, but that potential is definitely there probable, and strong. Sun and Jupiter are very fast vibratory energies.
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All the above is provided your chart is more accurate than not. A number aren't. If that is the case, you have a rather unusual and powerful chart in some ways--use it for positive/good and positive service for others.

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Interesting! When I'd calculated my dominant planets on Astro.com, it was Jupiter > Merc > Sun/Saturn > Uranus... Basically I've considered myself more Jupitarian/Mercurian than Uranian. I wasn't aware that planets conjunct angles could strengthen their prominence so much (I mean, perhaps the ASC but not as much the others).

posted October 10, 2020 09:22 AM            

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Originally posted by mee_chryssa:
I feel the same about my 7th house North Node. I think everybody feels like that. That's the reason we have a South Node in the opposite house.

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Lol yeah, I do wonder how people w/ personal planets conjunct their NN fare, though, since I only know how it is with several of mine conjunct SN. To me it just feels like I'm stuck in the past. It's sorta daunting to me how my Sun/Merc/Jupiter are all opposite NN + Pluto/ASC squares my NN...

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Originally posted by DecimaLife:
Hi, I also have Leo IC. People see me as nerd, and little snobbish and cold. Even though I am one of the childest, warm, reactive, playful person in my close circle and family (leo moon, leo Ic). I agree that I crave attention from both public and close ones.
The 4th house subject is also boring to me, I don't want to have kids or family of my own. But also, I am not good at 10th house things. Just like to go with the flow

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tbh I don't really know what the public's general perception of me is; I'd like to think it's positive but varies from "seems nice and smart" to "mysterious" haha. I personally feel like I have contradictions about myself, but with my Aqua MC (or even Gem ASC) I think it's valid how my friends like me bc of the fact that they never know what's gonna leave my mouth, but odds are it'll be "interesting" lol.

posted October 10, 2020 09:31 AM            

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Originally posted by nomad-monad:
...As I said, I am quite certain your experience WONT be mine. But perhaps it will be somewhat similar - you are still young.

I don't mean to scare you about psychological 'trials', but merely to prepare you for their eventual realization so that they don't catch you completely off guard. This discomfort must happen so that you can escape the chrysalis and fully embrace the realm of the 10h house as a keenly intuitive and diligent operator within it.

In terms of 'spiritual information' - I think the important part is the 'voracious consumption' of A LOT of information which is quite natural to the Gemini Asc. You will understand instinctively/intuitively by virtue of your heavy Pisces what information is right for you in the moment. Generally I think it will pertain in part to solving immediate prooblems/questions, and in part to constructing a wider world view. Either way, your Pisces attracts/thirsts for the information that is perfect for you in every moment of your path, and your Ascendant collects it and ingests it to your Pisces placements so that they can digest and egest it. The information will probably 'dissolve' in your ocean of understanding and build your intuitive muscles considerably.

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Hi, thank you for being willing to share your experiences. And yes, really it helps me knowing what's coming, haha. I'd felt extra lost and frustrated but when I'd discovered Pluto's transit and how it was impacting my moon/venus...let's just say a lot of lightbulbs went off. Still hella confused about a lot, haha, but it does help to mentally prepare myself for what's to come/what is happening/why.

posted October 10, 2020 09:44 AM            

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Originally posted by Kannon McAfee:
I'm sorry for my delay in noticing your response.

The Pluto conjunction to natal Venus affects all those things -- everything Venus related. It helps you get in touch with your feelings (in love and values overall) by intensifying them so they cannot be ignored. Of course, this may prove to be a learning experience that doesn't lead directly to what the kind of outcome you want, because it's not about the other person's response, but about you and what is going on inside you. So in that sense it is very activating (of all things Venus).

The transit is an opportunity to bring latent aspects of your feelings and values up to the surface to be expressed, then see if the results are what you wanted. If not, then it becomes a matter of making changes in priorities, how you operate, who you admire, etc. Pluto transits to personal planets like these often function in two phases where the second phase amounts to a kind of rebuilding or reforming.

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No worries, Kannon. Dang, I resonate so much with all of that, haha. There was someone I'd been romantically hung up on for years (if it's worth noting, their Sun was conj my vertex, so I guess karmic), I'd wanted things so badly to be "more"...to the point where I couldn't tell if my feelings were genuine or me just clinging to a "habit", we can say. Confessing to that person didn't lead into the outcome I'd wanted, but the results were it really did change how I wanted to approach people I liked in the future. There definitely was a lot of "rebuilding and reforming" for myself in moving on, despite never actually being romantically involved with this person.

posted October 10, 2020 06:20 PM            

I don't know how it is with Pluto and ASC, but my dad and a friend of mine have Jupiter square the Nodes.

My dad doesn't believe in God and mixes religion with God. Has huge problems believe in life, in something greater than us, or simply something that can't be explained with proof. He laughs every time I mention astrology or talk about some spiritual things and he rejects them immediately.

My friend has Pisces North Node conjunct SUN and she is handling better than my dad. We are both Pisces and we are attuned to this energy, but she has it. Maybe she relied on herself too much in past lives.

posted October 12, 2020 05:09 PM            

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Originally posted by mee_chryssa:
Squares to the Nodes point to some energies that you refused to develop and now there are some problems regarding your path in life.

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