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skynote
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posted September 10, 2020 02:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for skynote     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Sun/Jupiter/Mercury all conjunct in my 10th House, Pisces. Gemini Asc. Aqua Midheaven with Uranus conjunct.

Any time I show people my chart, they'll say, "You have a Pisces emphasis!!" (my Mars is also in Pisces, 11th house). Or "Jupiter does great in Pisces, have you thought about teaching?" Or I'll be "lucky with career" and/or getting noticed because Jupiter + Sun here.

Yet...

I'M SO LOST.

I don't feel lucky at all. I don't necessarily feel unlucky, but I've never considered myself a jovial, religious, bountiful teacher, even though Jupiter is conjunct my sun and is at home in Pisces. I also don't think I'm noticeable at all. I've always considered myself open, yet private.

I have NO IDEA what I want in terms of career, to the point where I've taken time off university, come back and am still miserable. Even though another popular comment when ppl see my chart is that "there's a lot happening in terms of career". I have no idea what that means? I've only ever worked min. wage jobs.

I always feel pressured about my career, but it's precisely because I have no idea what I'm doing with my life. I don't know if that's the point of a stellium, to challenge you or severely confuse you

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posted September 10, 2020 02:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for skynote     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My chart for reference:

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posted September 10, 2020 05:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DecimaLife     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am also Pisces, Gemini asc who born in 1998 just like you.
Sun and jupiter in pisces (both 10th house), aqua midheaven also is same in my chart.
Why did I told you about my chart? Because I am same as you. Not feeling lucky at all, not overly ambitious or career focused (even though Mars is in aries). There is a difference though... I am very optimistic about finding jobs and think like everything will be better about careerwise. We are still young and 10th house rewards may come later in life Idk (saturn, cap house)
Pisces heavy chart with strong 10th house can mean that confusion about life path (or career). You may care too much what public thinks of you, or you unconsciously may have created fake image about you (successful, driven, lucky, optimistic image). Do things that I wrote apply to you ?
Sometime I think we exaggerate our natal placements. e.g like you and me Sun in 10th with jupiter oh you must be famous lol

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posted September 11, 2020 02:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for skynote     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by DecimaLife:
I am very optimistic about finding jobs and think like everything will be better about careerwise. We are still young and 10th house rewards may come later in life Idk (saturn, cap house)
Pisces heavy chart with strong 10th house can mean that confusion about life path (or career). You may care too much what public thinks of you, or you unconsciously may have created fake image about you (successful, driven, lucky, optimistic image). Do things that I wrote apply to you ?

Yeah, I’m frustrated about career atm lmao because I feel like I’m constantly being pulled in different directions, to the point where all the forces cancel each other out and I’m rooted to the spot. I tend to be torn between optimism and pessimism, depending on the category. Career/uni is specifically pessimism, because I’ve tried to make it work for years (joining clubs, study abroad, moving in early/leadership programs, Workshops, taking time off, on campus employment etc) and feel like I’m just forcing something that won’t fit.

idk about the unconsciously crafting a fake image for myself...at least not a “sparkly” All-star image. More so back in high school perhaps, but if anything now I do the opposite - I joke to people that I’m a lazy curmudgeon, and tend to exaggerate my bad traits (humorously). I do, however, care how the public perceives me. So it’s an odd contradiction, I suppose.

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Sometime I think we exaggerate our natal placements. e.g like you and me Sun in 10th with jupiter oh you must be famous lol

Yeah, I don’t feel pressured to be famous or anything like that, I’ll just sorta frown if I read about that “popular/famous” for 10H sun/Jupiter placement, and figure it’s A) a misconception/exaggeration or B) if true, then not nearly as potent and/or manifesting in different ways in my chart, or that other aspects could be off-setting it. But I don’t know enough about astrology to know how hahaha


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posted September 11, 2020 03:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Franco     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I feel identified because I have an H10 stellium and all the planets are making aspects to jupiter.

I have read in many communities cases like this, stellium in H10 and there is no direction in any profession or many doubts about it.

I have felt this way, in fact I am one of the people who had many tastes: art (photography, designer), sports, spirituality etc ... However, I was never able to fully dedicate myself to any of these, I did not even specialize deeply. in none of them.

After a spiritual awakening I had things clear ... what I was looking for and this can be the cause of many planets in H10, it is because there is an interest in excelling, in quick results, in wanting to be recognized ... all this comes from the ego, After the spiritual awakening this vanished and I am free, I no longer need approval or success in any of those fields, this fact was incredible, since now I develop in art and other interests without any expectation, just enjoying the process, now I can take a project and finish it, before I couldn't finish it because I was bored, or it didn't have approximate results. At the end of the day in my experience you have to be realistic and look for a 'profession' in which you feel free and have no expectations. That is to say, the EGO does not intervene.

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posted September 12, 2020 02:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DecimaLife     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Franco:
I feel identified because I have an H10 stellium and all the planets are making aspects to jupiter.

I have read in many communities cases like this, stellium in H10 and there is no direction in any profession or many doubts about it.

I have felt this way, in fact I am one of the people who had many tastes: art (photography, designer), sports, spirituality etc ... However, I was never able to fully dedicate myself to any of these, I did not even specialize deeply. in none of them.

After a spiritual awakening I had things clear ... what I was looking for and this can be the cause of many planets in H10, it is because there is an interest in excelling, in quick results, in wanting to be recognized ... all this comes from the ego, After the spiritual awakening this vanished and I am free, I no longer need approval or success in any of those fields, this fact was incredible, since now I develop in art and other interests without any expectation, just enjoying the process, now I can take a project and finish it, before I couldn't finish it because I was bored, or it didn't have approximate results. At the end of the day in my experience you have to be realistic and look for a 'profession' in which you feel free and have no expectations. That is to say, the EGO does not intervene.

sorry for my bad english


skynote, you and me should have formed a club named "Losers with 10th house stellium", lol jk. I am trying to be free of what society or bosses(some authority appliest to) think of me, but I can't. I am stressing myself not for me, but to impress others.

skynote, did you try to go to your north node in 4th? I have the same node in virgo in 4th. Maybe this is our path, but I don't know its meaning.
Cleaning my house? Pay my bills? Do you know anything about that?

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posted September 18, 2020 02:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted September 19, 2020 01:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mee_chryssa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have my Sun, Mercury, and Venus in the 10th house. They are not conjunct, but they are there.
My Midheaven is in Pisces conjuncting Sun.

What I wanted to say is that Pisces is not a sign that will have huge ambition about following a career in business or law. Pisces is a "behind the scene" sign when it is in the 10th house or Midheaven.

I started college at 27 years old and I started an economics degree (forced by circumstances). What I wanted to do was Faculty of Letters.

Your Midheaven is in Aquarius. Maybe a career in helping people will be a good choice for you.

I see my 10th house planets as something that happens in the public eye, not necessarily in the work place. The 6th house is the work place.

I struggle having secrets and I usually cant have one,in the end everyone will know about them, and I think thats why I care about my intimacy that much. I guess it is also because I get noticed easily and sometimes I wish I was invisible so I can do my thing.

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posted September 19, 2020 12:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kannon McAfee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was sure I responded to your post, but I don't see it here.

Anyway, you're undergoing major potentially life changing transits by two planets, Neptune and Pluto. What you do and decide during this time of the next few years is important.

- Neptune conjunct natal Mars. You've got about 4 more years of this transit. It is essentially a change of pattern in your actions and can include lower confidence as its purpose is to cleans ego-based energy and bring in more spiritual motivation to your pattern of action. However, what can happen for many people is a negative misconception (self-deception) setting in during a period of less confidence that can hinder you. Be sure that you don't fall so much into self-doubt that you come to negative conclusions that block your ability to move forward and be happy.

- Pluto (and Saturn) conjunct natal Moon & Venus. This natal aspect of Moon-Venus can allow you to be good in helping others, sensitive to their needs, and very professional while influential with others. Pluto's transit conjunct these has more than 3 years left to go. Saturn's part is shorter, done before the end of the year, but forces the issue of internal reckoning and change; be sure you are constructive in your outlook and determination to know your true values and how they translate into steps to take in your outer life.

This transit is a revolution of personal emotions and values that can bring up latent or suppressed passions (good or bad). It is an opportunity to develop more momentum. You may find that a love relationship seems to 'interrupt' your plans or turn them in a different direction. But that is not an urge that you wait passively for such an occurrence that may not happen. It's just that Pluto is the energy of deep change and profound developments from their potentials that have roots in your unconscious.

Considering these two transits, it's okay if you want to take a break from university and consider more deeply what your soul longs for.

Allow room for the unexpected (Uranus transit quincunx natal Pluto).

- Jupiter's transits conjunct natal Moon & Venus will come back around by middle of next month to help you in this process. Connections with females, mother, mentors, etc can be facilitated by this. Don't be afraid to ask for help, get an outside perspective

Just because you have planets in the 10th house doesn't mean you find a 'career' that fits into a prefabricated category. What matters is that you feel out an inner purpose from within yourself and believe in it.

Next year you'll have some more activating transits by Jupiter to natal Neptune and Uranus that will bring windows of opportunity for growth.

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posted September 19, 2020 06:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for nomad-monad     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Kannon is as usual very much on point.

I have kind of the same stellium (Jupiter conj Sun + Mercury and Venus in 10th house Pisces) and I also have Gemini Asc at 9 degrees. But I am older (1986).

As Kannon says, you will need to go through quite a few experiences that bring you toward your inner soul drive and purpose before you find your career.

These experiences are the friction that polishes your surface. You will need this friction to see the depths clearly.

You should use your Gemini to feed on information voraciously. Especially spiritual information.

In time this will trigger a deep spiritual awareness within you, and in line with this you will hear your soul-beat much clearer. When you hear this beat very clearly, you will be marching towards your career.


I'd say by the time of your Saturn Return, you will see things much more clearly.

Until then, prepare for many tears, and love each and every one of them. They will fill your cup.

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posted September 20, 2020 12:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Your North Node is in the 4th house, dear.

Regardless of the 10th house stellium, you are more drawn to staying home, or living a domestic life, away from the glare of public and carrierism. You could also be an introvert.

There are probably some familial or societal pressure on you to pursue a career, but this is not what you really want to do.

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posted September 20, 2020 12:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ALso, read up on natal conjunctions to south node of:

Sun
Jupiter
Mercury

And you will get a better picture of what is happening in your chart.

Look into possibilities of working from home.

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posted September 23, 2020 05:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DecimaLife     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Belage:
Your North Node is in the 4th house, dear.

Regardless of the 10th house stellium, you are more drawn to staying home, or living a domestic life, away from the glare of public and carrierism. You could also be an introvert.

There are probably some familial or societal pressure on you to pursue a career, but this is not what you really want to do.


I always thought South node in 10th should be comfortable with career/status etc. and we must balance our nodes, we shouldn't try to go to the North node always. Is that wrong ? Only trying to go north node (while trying to leave south node) is also bad thing in my opinion.

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posted September 23, 2020 08:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for skynote     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi, thank you to everyone new who has replied. I had to step away for a little bit, as I'm still feeling quite turbulent as of late.


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I struggle having secrets and I usually cant have one, in the end everyone will know about them, and I think that's why I care about my intimacy that much. I guess it is also because I get noticed easily and sometimes I wish I was invisible so I can do my thing.

I personally don't feel I get noticed easily. In high school someone had told me point-blank "you're not memorable" LMAO. Usually people know me through my siblings, since I kinda prefer to keep behind the scenes...but perhaps my Sun/Jupiter 10th house energy (and Leo IC?) are the reasons why a part of me secretly craves attention.

Secrets-wise...I'm pretty good at bottling things up, but when my business does get revealed, it's almost always by my own terms.

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posted September 23, 2020 08:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for skynote     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Kannon McAfee:
you're undergoing major potentially life changing transits by two planets, Neptune and Pluto. What you do and decide during this time of the next few years is important.

Hi, Kannon, thanks so much for the comprehensive reply. I didn't want to quote the whole block but I read it. It's funny, the other week I had only recently learned about Pluto's transit through Capricorn, and I came across a post online (perhaps I'll link it later when I find it again), and I was pretty shaken to the core with how much I resonated with, as currently it is conjunct 1 degree from my moon/Venus.

2019 was definitely a transformative year for me...I wouldn't say I'm a "new person", but I've definitely grown in different ways. But I still feel/am thick into the Pluto conjunction, and to be honest I'm also a little apprehensive for even once it's out of Capricorn. I must accept Pluto will basically be transiting over all my planets for the entirety of my life...really I don't know how to feel about that. On one hand I respect Pluto for its intensity and how it pushes for change/transformation - I like examining those dark/hidden parts of myself - but on the other it's just so much that I don't know if I can always handle it.

I really do feel torn with what I want right now. It's funny you also mentioned a "love relationship that seems to 'interrupt' my plans"...I'm not in a relationship at the moment, but merely weeks ago I realized that I am romantically interested in a good friend, and I'm planning for that to come to head soon.

I did not, however, know of the significance of transit Neptune/Mars conjunction so thank you for enlightening me. I will have to read more up on that in my spare time.

Also, may I ask...how is transit Pluto/Venus conjunction in particular so affecting? Does that have to do more with relationships or self-esteem and values?


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posted September 23, 2020 08:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for skynote     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by nomad-monad:
As Kannon says, you will need to go through quite a few experiences that bring you toward your inner soul drive and purpose before you find your career.
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You should use your Gemini to feed on information voraciously. Especially spiritual information.
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Until then, prepare for many tears, and love each and every one of them. They will fill your cup.

Hi, thanks so much for responding. I'm nervous with the term "experiences" because so far...a lot of them haven't been helping my mental health Thanks for the words of encouragement, though.

May I ask, can you elaborate what you mean by "spiritual information"? Like, would this just be philosophies on life, or astrology, or self-help books?

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posted September 23, 2020 08:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for skynote     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Belage:
Your North Node is in the 4th house, dear. Regardless of the 10th house stellium, you are more drawn to staying home, or living a domestic life, away from the glare of public and carrierism. You could also be an introvert.

There are probably some familial or societal pressure on you to pursue a career, but this is not what you really want to do.


Hmm, maybe it's my 9H stellium that influences this, but staying at home and living the domestic life isn't very appealing to me? If anything, that sounds stressful, lol. Currently I stay home because of the regulations with COVID, and generally I consider myself a homebody (and I am introverted!) mainly because I have few friends to meet up with and even less money to spend LMAO

But I mentioned 9th House since I very much resonate with its facet of travel/cultures. I don't travel much, but I absolutely LOVE travelling, since I was a kid I've dreamt of travelling the world, I'd be down to live temporarily in another country/far from my family for some time (even though I love my family, I've always felt inclined to go a different way)... I feel like travelling is one of the few things that truly makes me happy/calm/excited, whether it's a roadtrip up state or hopping on an airplane. If I could travel the world for my job, I think I'd love it. But to your second post, I think a working-from home/remote-work-from-anywhere job would be ideal for me.

To be honest, I wouldn't mind being seen by the public in a good light. I don't mind attention, and if anything I've had dreams of hosting a TedTalk (ironic to me because I'm rather wuiet) but I don't actively seek attention. But if I gained a well-respected, well-known position, I wouldn't complain at all!

There was family pressure to pursue a certain career that I didn't want...but to be fair my mom pressured all of my siblings to do the same career (medical field), and their NNs aren't in the same house.

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posted September 23, 2020 08:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for skynote     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by DecimaLife:
I always thought South node in 10th should be comfortable with career/status etc. and we must balance our nodes, we shouldn't try to go to the North node always. Is that wrong ? Only trying to go north node (while trying to leave south node) is also bad thing in my opinion.

I have no idea how true this is, but when I was first getting into astrology I heard the NN is usually something most of us will fight against? Meaning it's typically unappealing to us in our youth/the last thing we are interested in, but for true "soul growth" we must follow it?

EDIT: I should add, idk how that plays out if the NN is closely conjunct personal planets, like the Sun or Moon? My friend has this (2 degree orb) and she's my age. I imagine it would be a more auspicious placement, though, since if the NN pushes you in one direction, and if it's in the same house as a lot of your planets, then you'd find purpose quicker? (genuinely guessing though. This is my brother's case, since he has heavy 6H stellium + NN there, and his life has been treating him very well within the last year; would wager it's related to his Saturn return rewarding him bc he's in his late twenties...)

Alternatively I've heard others say that the NN is overrated and they don't pay so much attention to it, but personally I wouldn't go as far to say that.

BUT if I'm being honest 4H is up there in terms of houses I don't pay as much attention to...

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posted September 23, 2020 08:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for skynote     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
EDIT: sorry. I keep trying to edit my previous posts and for some reason it ends up posting a new one? Lol, I'll get the hang of this site one day.

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posted October 02, 2020 05:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted October 02, 2020 05:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mee_chryssa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
We fight against the North Node because we are very good at the South Node.
A 10th house South Node means you like the attention and you are comfortable in the public eye. Plus the LEO IC.

Everyone gets to their North Node in the end. If you get to live over 50 years, you will reach your North Node. My dad started working at his North Node around 35-40 years old. Depends on the aspects in the natal chart also. He doesn't have many aspects to his Nodes.

Your North Node in the 4th house means that eventually you will like being at home and nurture, among other things.

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posted October 03, 2020 12:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for skynote     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by mee_chryssa:
We fight against the North Node because we are very good at the South Node.
A 10th house South Node means you like the attention and you are comfortable in the public eye. Plus the LEO IC.

Everyone gets to their North Node in the end. If you get to live over 50 years, you will reach your North Node. My dad started working at his North Node around 35-40 years old. Depends on the aspects in the natal chart also. He doesn't have many aspects to his Nodes.

Your North Node in the 4th house means that eventually you will like being at home and nurture, among other things.



Do you know, exactly, what the significance of a Leo IC is? I've heard it means you might've been the center of attention growing up, or if not the center then you lacked attention and always craved it, and that the IC speaks about family and sibling dynamics/fun childhood? I'm just giving my best guess/going off memory.

Yeah, right now nothing of the 4th house sounds interesting to me lol. Of what I know about each house, I'd say fourth house is arguably the most boring to me? (yeah, even less interested in it than the 6th house, haha).

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So Planets conjunct an Angle tend to be stronger than Planets in an Angular House, even if the former Planet is in another House.

In your case, you have a Uranus as the strongest Planet i.e. you're a Uranian above any and everything else.

This is indicated in a few ways--conjunct your MC, closely trine the Asc degree, and it's in it's own Sign. If you look at declinations--it's possible that your chart ruler, Mercury is parallel Uranus as well. But the former 3 are more than enough as a combo to indicate a very strong Uranian attunement.

Uranians are often extremists--meaning they have two distinct sides within them--one is a rather fast vibratory, more spiritually and Love attuned side, and one a rather slow vibratory, ego/fear/selfishness attuned side, and they tend to flip flop in a very contrasted way, between these two sides.

Eventually they choose and/or are nudged towards one more than the other, and become either more overtly positive or negative in tone. For example, both Edgar Cayce and Hitler were Uranians.

Uranus is also that of the psychic, and Uranians are often quite intuitive.

Mercury, Sun, and Jupiter are your next strongest energies. With the combination of such strong Uranus, combined with strong Mercury and Jupiter, you're a bit to moderately more cerebral and intellect oriented than a so called "typical" Pisces. You still have deep and sensitive feelings etc, but you have a very strong "left brain" side so called which counter balances the more mystical and "right brained" side of Pisces. Actually, you have the probable potential to become very balanced and whole brained, which is somewhat rare.

But being a predominant Uranian, that will take some definite time, life experience, discipline, and creating positive habits.

Also, 10th House energies while strong, are often energies that we tend to grow into more gradually as time goes on and we become more mature and/or settled in the career years of our life. So I doubt that you're nearly as consciously attuned to Jupiter and Sun as you are to Uranus currently, but that potential is definitely there probable, and strong. Sun and Jupiter are very fast vibratory energies. Edgar Cayce's guidance once said of the Sun and Jupiter that they are the highest forces of all the planets. (Interestingly, in another reading, they said that gold and purple are the highest vibratory of the color vibrations we perceive, and it's been my repeat intuition and observation that powerful Solar and Jupitarian attunement often show up as golden light and purple in auras respectively).

All the above is provided your chart is more accurate than not. A number aren't. If that is the case, you have a rather unusual and powerful chart in some ways--use it for positive/good and positive service for others.

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posted October 03, 2020 01:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mee_chryssa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by skynote:

Do you know, exactly, what the significance of a Leo IC is? I've heard it means you might've been the center of attention growing up, or if not the center then you lacked attention and always craved it, and that the IC speaks about family and sibling dynamics/fun childhood? I'm just giving my best guess/going off memory.

Yeah, right now nothing of the 4th house sounds interesting to me lol. Of what I know about each house, I'd say fourth house is arguably the most boring to me? (yeah, even less interested in it than the 6th house, haha).


I know about the Leo IC that they were kids that were loved by their family. The IC is your most intimate place in your life. How your family and the closest friends see you. The MC is how the public sees you.

For example, I have Virgo IC and Pisces MC conjuncting Sun. People see me as being dezorganized and messy, even at work, but who looks closer, they will see I am a perfectionist by nature. Just an example or the multiple things that makes the IC/MC.

I feel the same about my 7th house North Node. I think everybody feels like that. That's the reason we have a South Node in the opposite house.

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