posted September 24, 2020 08:20 PM            

In seriousness, my Venus is conjunct Neptune AND my Venus is square Saturn (both of these aspects are 7 degree orbs).

posted September 25, 2020 12:35 PM            

So the neptunian qualities will winn out over the Saturnian aspect.

But it also depends which sign and houses these planets fall in.

posted September 25, 2020 12:59 PM            

You see this often with people's strongest planet (often the Planet closesst to the Asc, or barring that, closest to the Midheaven).

That planet often takes on a dominant note/tone in the whole chart--more than even the Sun Sign usually. Unless the person is all personality and has little connection to their deeper Soul self. Then the Signs do become more dominant, and especially the Rising and Moon Signs.

But yeah, often there is a lot of common similarities between Solarians, Mercurians, Lunar, Venusians, Martians, Jupitarians, Saturnians, Uranians, Neptunians, and Plutonians. These are often easily recognizable as being this or that Planet dominant.

Why? Because that strongest Planet directly represents/symbolizes the nonphysical dimension/consciousness level you were focused in right before you incarnated i.e. connected to one of these upgraded monkey suits.

That's somewhat more of an extreme example, but in general, Planetary energy tends to be more concentrated and intense than Sign when highlighted, as Signs are more of a diffuse backdrop/background.

So people with say Venus conjunct Neptune, will tend to share more similarities than differences no matter the Signs involved. The Signs will certainly color and flavor the expression some (hence there will be differences), but the Planetary energy is ultimately usually stronger than the Sign (again, unless a person is all or almost all personality level--such as narcissists or younger/less mature Souls are).

No matter what Sign it's in, most people with Venus conjunct Neptune, will tend to express and be similar in that area to Venus in Pisces than any other Sign. This is not to say that Neptune and Pisces are the exact same energy and thing--they are not, there are differences, but in that case, they are fairly resonate.

This can manfiest in many different ways, according to the spiritual will of the individual and the entire chart. Can range from everything to trascendant, spiritulized, universal Love for all, to sneaky, conning, lying types, to severely deluded, completely right brain-no left brain balance types in relationships, total escapists or hedonists, drug addicts or alcoholics, highly talented in music, dance, and/or arts, etc, etc.

Can even be a mix or blend of more than one of the above. Just really depends. You can't really tell without the whole chart and without tuning into the current energy of a person and how they are using their spiritual will.

People like and want certainty. There is none in astrology. It's not a mechanistic science. Aura reading is far more accurate than chart reading, because the aura unlike the chart, is always up to date with the changes that the spiritual will has made to the patterns. It's in "real time" whereas a chart is a static snap shot in space/time of most probable tendencies and most likely potentials.

People can, and do, grow OR stagnate and even retrogress from their charts--and sometimes both though in different areas simultaneously.

posted September 25, 2020 01:05 PM            

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posted September 25, 2020 01:12 PM            

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Originally posted by Belage:
Due to the wide orb, I think the conjunction is more powerful than the square.

So the neptunian qualities will winn out over the Saturnian aspect.

But it also depends which sign and houses these planets fall in.

A neptune and venus conjunction in Capricorn (sign ruled by Saturn) is way different than a Neptune and Venus conjunction in Pisces (ruled by Neptune) or Libra (ruled by Venus)

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Thanks for replying! How do you classify it when the conjunction is between signs? My Venus is 24 degrees Capricorn conjunct Neptune at 0 degrees Aquarius!

Meanwhile my Saturn is 17 degrees in Aries... So I feel like my natal Saturn and Venus are in signs they’re not comfortable in?

posted September 26, 2020 11:58 AM            

But again, Planetary energy is often stronger than Sign anyways. The above will be more subtle. The dominant note will be the Neptune shading into the Venus areas and archetypes.

posted September 26, 2020 03:06 PM            

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Originally posted by skynote:
Thanks for replying! How do you classify it when the conjunction is between signs? My Venus is 24 degrees Capricorn conjunct Neptune at 0 degrees Aquarius!

Meanwhile my Saturn is 17 degrees in Aries... So I feel like my natal Saturn and Venus are in signs they’re not comfortable in?

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Since the conjunction invloves 2 different signs, it is weaker, yet.

I do feel that a 7 degree orb is not that strong. With Neptune or Saturn, you will feel some influence to your Venus, but it should not be too strong or debilitating, unless these aspects are the only ones your Venus is exposed to.

posted September 26, 2020 03:21 PM            

This is a common misconception. Signs do not make the conjunction, but the relative proximity of the Planets to each other.

Signs are a background/backdrop to all that going on, and indicate the more specific focuses and personality trends in which those planetary energies will play out, and then the Houses indicate which specific areas of life it plays out.

posted September 26, 2020 05:48 PM            

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Originally posted by GalacticCoreExplosion:
"Since the conjunction invloves 2 different signs, it is weaker, yet."

This is a common misconception. Signs do not make the conjunction, but the relative proximity of the Planets to each other.

Signs are a background/backdrop to all that going on, and indicate the more specific focuses and personality trends in which those planetary energies will play out, and then the Houses indicate which specific areas of life it plays out.

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Agreed.

This is important to grasp if anyone wants to get beyond the trappings of simplistic, sign-based astrology.

Aspects are geometric relationship between the planets involved. Planets are more important than signs.

As to interpretation of 'out of sign' conjunctions, you simply interpret each planet in the sign it is in. The conjunction is a fusion or melding of the planetary energies involved.

posted October 08, 2020 08:13 PM            

Neptune (and this is always the case with me) I rarely find myself liking a person at first cuz of different (maybe idealistic) reasons, but ALWAYS without fail end up loving them. I dunno how to reason with myself correctly once that person is in my life. But as soon as they're not in my life anymore there's no way I'd allow them back in again, I simply feel cheated of the truth and how I 'really' feel about them.

Saturn makes me (I think, lately I've been told otherwise) come off as rather distant and not as friendly. But also, I have this odd way of interacting with women, not balanced that is. Like in an awkward way lol, I have these abrupt moments of not knowing how to portray myself. That's definitely Saturn at play. And Venus represents women so... (Even though I'm female it's still difficult, but I've gotten better at it I hope)

Uranus I think is the strongest, actually together with Saturn I can't deny that. But Uranus largely plays into the style people that I'm attracted to. Neptune as well, but in a rather subtle way. (Neptune Uranus are 3 degrees conjunct)

posted October 12, 2020 11:48 AM            

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Neptune (and this is always the case with me) I rarely find myself liking a person at first cuz of different (maybe idealistic) reasons, but ALWAYS without fail end up loving them. I dunno how to reason with myself correctly once that person is in my life. But as soon as they're not in my life anymore there's no way I'd allow them back in again, I simply feel cheated of the truth and how I 'really' feel about them.

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