posted October 07, 2020 03:46 PM            

I need to stop being lazy and just post Sag #1's chart. Gimme a minute LOL

So why exactly is Sagittarius strongly attracted to Taurus energy?? Venus is the most dominant planet in my chart. I love it! It's a beautiful contrast to my fiery Aries energy. I feel like a *Siren Goddess* much of the time! My Venus actually falls in the 8th House.

posted October 07, 2020 05:09 PM              

You can see the general reactions of each Sign to all the other Signs and vice versa by placing a Sign on the Ascendant and using the natural houses--like I did with Sag to Aries.

If Taurus is on the Asc, then Sag is the natural 8th House connection to it. Hence, very generally speaking, strong Sag. energy tends to react and be attracted to strong Taurus energy in that 8th House kind of way. (In turn, strong Taurus tends to be react or be attracted to strong Libra in that way).

These kind of connections and reactions get boosted when there are actual 8th House Synastric placements and/or strong interaspects with the ruler(s) of same, which you do have with at least one of these guys that I remember.

posted October 07, 2020 10:31 PM            

Definitely dying to know more of your thoughts on them individually, and also towards me. Here are the full synastry charts with them both. I finally did it! LOL

Sag #1

Sag #2

posted October 08, 2020 02:39 PM              

Yeah, I'll take a look, but it might be a bit. I'm going camping for the next couple to few days depending on the weather.

posted October 16, 2020 05:35 PM            

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I'll try to take a look at these tomorrow.

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posted October 17, 2020 10:15 PM              

For example, you have Aries Sun in the 7th, with the ruler of same, Mars, in Capricorn, conjunct Neptune.

It's interesting that one of the fellows has Sun closely conjunct his Asc. In other words, he's probably primarily a Solarian, and that strongly mirrors your Sun in the 7th i.e. one of the meanings is that you are very attracted to/tend to attract very Solar attuned men/partners.

Then the other guy has Neptune conjunct his Asc. That also mirrors your 7th House since the ruler of same is conjunct Neptune. That, and Mars is very important in a woman's chart in relation to the kind of partners she is most attracted to.

And remembering in both cases, that Planetary energy is often stronger/more dominant over Sign. So both these guys match your strongest 7th House "mirror". But the Solar one does more so, since the Sun being in the 7th is more immediate and pertinent than Mars placement/aspects.

I'll talk more about it later--pretty sure I don't have much going on tomorrow. My partner sprung some plans on me last minute today and I haven't been home nor non occupied much. Just thought this was rather interesting.

posted October 18, 2020 01:58 AM            

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I keep ending up busier than I expected. I've just been looking at both charts, and something that stands out to me is how both of their charts mirror your 7th House, but in different ways.

For example, you have Aries Sun in the 7th, with the ruler of same, Mars, in Capricorn, conjunct Neptune.

It's interesting that one of the fellows has Sun closely conjunct his Asc. In other words, he's probably primarily a Solarian, and that strongly mirrors your Sun in the 7th i.e. one of the meanings is that you are very attracted to/tend to attract very Solar attuned men/partners.

Then the other guy has Neptune conjunct his Asc. That also mirrors your 7th House since the ruler of same is conjunct Neptune. That, and Mars is very important in a woman's chart in relation to the kind of partners she is most attracted to.

And remembering in both cases, that Planetary energy is often stronger/more dominant over Sign. So both these guys match your strongest 7th House "mirror". But the Solar one does more so, since the Sun being in the 7th is more immediate and pertinent than Mars placement/aspects.

I'll talk more about it later--pretty sure I don't have much going on tomorrow. My partner sprung some plans on me last minute today and I haven't been home nor non occupied much. Just thought this was rather interesting.

That and how strong the Saturn contacts are between with both of their charts and yours. But I'll touch more on that later.

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Hi. Yes, tell me more of your thoughts on our Saturn contacts please! And what do you make of our Moon-Mars & Venus-Pluto contacts?

By Solarian energy do you mean Leo-like? Cuz I do tend to connect with (most) Leo Men often and the attraction is always mutual.

posted October 18, 2020 12:37 PM              

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Hi. Yes, tell me more of your thoughts on our Saturn contacts please!

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I'm going to address Sag 2 first: Your Saturn rules your 4th and co-rules your 5th and is conjunct his Sun (ruler of his 9th) and Mercury, ruler of his 7th so that shows a strong connection between important/affecting parts of each other. He can "light up" issues related to your upbringing/childhood/home/family. If there is anything difficult, uncomfortable, or unconscious there, that will tend to come up/out over time, and you may unconsciously project some of that shadow stuff onto him (IC is one of our more unconscious/shadow oriented areas).

Cap IC with Mars near same can mean that one of the parents and/or the home life in general was overly restrictive, controlling, or the like. If so, you may act that out on him, trying to become the "authority" and boss in the relationship, but having attracted him initially by giving him the impression (Libra Asc and Cancer MC for example) that he would be the boss/authority here--the old switcharoo.

He could come to resent that, and since his Saturn, ruler of his 2nd and 3rd, is likewise on your Sun, he may up the ante/double down on his end in trying to take back the reigns--especially as related to his finances/resources.

It's not uncommon for such strong Saturn interapsects to eventually become heavy, control oriented, and/or repressive in nature--often related to karmic patterns because Saturn is so connected to fear and insecurity i.e. the "tender" parts of our ego and shadow.

But there are a lot of indications of mutual strong attraction and interesting mix of emotional comfort/familiarity, respect, and excitement. For example, his Mars is basically in your 5th, closely trine your Asc, and square your Venus. Moon Moon conjunction with his Moon relatively near your MC--hence the comfort/familiarity emotionally and innate respect.

With your Moon in his 8th, you are attracted to him in deep ways that are hard to explain/verbalize and with a strong sexual intimacy undertone--at times potentially somewhat uncomfortable as you can sense, emotionally that can lose control or be very exposed/vulnerable emotionally to him.

Thankfully there is also some strong mutual Jupiter stuff to counter balance the strong and heavier Saturn and 8th House dynamics. Your Jupiter conjunct his IC and N. Node indicates on a deep level, you make him feel good about his himself and his inner security as long as you don't go overly boss mode. And you can help him to expand and enlighten his path of growth and/or home settings.

And his Jupiter in your 1st House indicates a mutual feel good, positive buoyancy to the connection also with some spiritual depth and focus.

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By Solarian energy do you mean Leo-like? Cuz I do tend to connect with (most) Leo Men often and the attraction is always mutual.

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I've observed two distinct types of Solarians when the Sun is very strong in the natal. More common are the "Leo like" Solarians where they express the Solar consciousness at a lower octave and more Leo like level. The Sun itself is a very fast vibratory and expanded consciousness, and it's not easy for humans to attune to and express as is. It basically represents the "higher"/Expanded self level of us--the Spirit level of us.

These type of more rare Solarians almost always have a very strong attunement to either Jupiter, Neptune, and/or Pisces i.e. the "purple/violet spectrum" of energies. That is because violet and purple in a chakra/gland and aura sense is the energy "just below" the Solar in a vibrational sense. The Sun is pure golden Light.

For a real world example, the Dali Lama has a very strong Sun, and has a lot of golden light in his aura. He's not fully "enlightened", but he's closer than many humans.

The more common type of Solarians, as mentioned, are the more Leo like types that while they can be warm and heart centered, they have some definite pride and ego, and can be a bit over bearing in there attempts to direct others at times (they have a need to try to become the leader). These types often have a lot of high orange in their aura--a yellowey orange. These types are often both quite physical and intellect oriented at the same time. Meaning, they often like sports and being physical (with also a fairly strong sexual desire nature), but also like to exercise their intellects as well. When they are more positive, they can be quite fun, exciting, and uplifting to be around and can have definite charisma.

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I encounter *a lot* of Leo & Scorpio ASC males. And a decent amount of Sag & Libra ASC as well if that makes a difference.

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Yep, the first part makes sense with your Sun in the 7th and strong Aries. As strong Aries is attracted to strong Sagittarius in a 5th House kind of way, in turn strong Leo tends to be attracted to strong Aries in a 5th House kind of way. But with your Sun in the 7th as well, it's likely to be mutual as Leo is like a lower octave of the Sun.

Libra Asc makes sense because of your Sun in Aries/Libra Asc. Scorpio makes sense because your chart ruler, Venus, is in Taurus and strong Aries has an 8th House pull on strong Scorpio. Sag because strong Aries tends to have a 5th House kind of attraction to strong Sag, and then your Sag Saturn ruler of your IC and 5th indicates definite deep karmic patterns with those with strong Sag, and Sag Asc would bring that out even more since the Asc point is like a giant magnification lens both in a Natal and Synastry sense.

I'll have to answer your other questions and address Sag 1 later.

posted October 18, 2020 04:07 PM            

I just read the first little bit you mentioned on Saturn. Thank you. I'll read and respond to all of the rest shortly!

posted October 18, 2020 05:36 PM              

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I just read the first little bit you mentioned on Saturn. Thank you. I'll read and respond to all of the rest shortly!

Do you have our Saturn placements backwards though? My Saturn is in the 2nd house and his is in the 5th. So is it in fact *him* who pulled the switcheroo? Or maybe us both? We both have a lot more layers than we present on the surface.

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Hi L.A., wasn't mentioning your individual Saturn house placements, but rather what Houses Saturn rules in your charts and how that matters by your mutual Saturn interaspects. In your chart, Saturn rules the 4th and co rules the 5th, and in his chart Saturn rules the 2nd and co-rules the 3rd.

So since his Saturn is on your Sun North Node conjunction (? I think, it's hard to tell), besides the Houses that this takes place in, the Houses that his Saturn rules also get activated for him. In turn, since your Saturn is on his Sun, besides the Houses that takes place in, the Houses that Saturn rules in your chart also gets activated. See?

Though on closer look, it looks like his Saturn may be too far away from your Sun and N. Node conjunction to be technically conjunct? It's really hard to tell without the degrees there.* But if it's technically conjunct your N. Node, then it does partake of conjunction with your Sun as well even if it's out of the 8* orb.

I probably should have mentioned the Houses that your respective Saturns do occupy in each others charts, but I figured that part was pretty obvious. It does make it heavier overall since your Saturn is so closely conjunct his Asc as well, and his Saturn is in your 7th.

I would say this is very much a karmic heavy connection overall, but there is some definite strong attraction and also lightness/fun and spiritual connection to help counterbalance that.

* Edit to add--well der, the degrees are there in the bottom left table, though not in the wheel itself. So yes, his Saturn is definitely conjunct your Sun North Node conjunction.

posted October 19, 2020 03:16 AM            

When you said that he can "light up" issues surrounding my childhood & family that was SPOT ON. He actually has been helping me out and giving me tons of insight in these areas that I don't usually delve into with many others. I don't run from it though because I welcome growth! I've actually put a lot of things on his mind as well and he's thanked me for it.

I actually have ZERO desire to boss him around! But I do get a sense that he gets confused about who I am sometimes. I'm *both* yin AND yang but I typically lead with my feminine energy most. He told me that he rarely ever encounters a woman like me who is so balanced. At times he loves it, and other times it triggers him and his childhood issues. He's used to extremes! I think sometimes he may feel that I'm too good to be true and gets suspicious - makes sense with him being Scorpio Venus.

Our Moon-Moon conjunction is indeed wonderful! We felt super comfortable with each other right away. And I can usually *feel* when my Moon is in a man's 8th House very early on. One of the first things he messaged me was that he could sense my deep sexual energy and that he was drawn to it. And I felt the same about him. We have not slept together BTW!

posted October 19, 2020 03:32 AM            

What you said about them being purple/violet Solarians make total sense! This is so interesting. I *love* their energy. And Sag #2 has been educating me on all of the chakras lately, so how ironic that you mention that.

posted October 19, 2020 10:31 AM              

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I actually have ZERO desire to boss him around!

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Yes, for now, but should things get more serious and intense, and you both become more emotionally invested in each other, this is something to watch for because it can creep in and in a mutual way. You both strongly stimulate/amplify each other's Saturn. And you have a VERY strongly Cardinal oriented chart, and it natural for you to at least unconsciously try to take the reigns. This will be especially so with a person who so strongly activates your Saturn and vice versa.

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But I do get a sense that he gets confused about who I am sometimes. I'm *both* yin AND yang but I typically lead with my feminine energy most. He told me that he rarely ever encounters a woman like me who is so balanced.

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I hear yah. I'm similar (very balanced/integrated) and so is my core partner as well. The guys who will appreciate this the most will be those who are likewise unusually balanced/integrated. These are older Soul types.

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At times he loves it, and other times it triggers him and his childhood issues. He's used to extremes! I think sometimes he may feel that I'm too good to be true and gets suspicious - makes sense with him being Scorpio Venus.

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Yeah, I didn't even get to your Uranus Asc conjunction. There are two planets that most correspond to extremes, though in different ways, and that is Pluto and Uranus. That your Asc is conjunct his Uranus indicates that you tend to bring out his Uranian extremist side strongly. If you guys get more serious and emotionally involved, I would watch for him running hot and cold. That will be a barometer that he is getting triggered by something and at least unconsciously is trying to take back control.

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The fact that you said we have a spiritual, emotional, playful *and* sexual connection ON TOP OF our "heavy" Saturn synastry? Sounds like this one will be an effin doozy if we ever did decide to pursue something serious!!

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Yeah, there is a lot going on here, both positively and in the challenge sense. This is a connection that will require a lot of mutual self and other honesty and open communication to work best. I mean, that's true pretty much with all relationships to some degree, but will especially be key in this one.

Not sure when I will be able to get to Sag 1, but will try to when I can. I see/feel A LOT of information when I look at Synastric comparisons and it takes awhile for me to process and go through it being tipped to the introverted side of the spectrum. It's a bit "information/stimulation overload".

posted October 19, 2020 10:52 AM              

That's because the Sun is golden Light, which is a bit faster vibratory than purple and violet (in a vibrational sense, it's the next major level and vibration after purple/violet). It's rare for someone to jump to such a fast vibratory consciousness (which corresponds with the Sun and golden light) from say a rather slower vibratory attunement which say corresponds with red, orange, coral, pink, yellow, green, or cyan. The majority of humans are within the former attunement mostly, though blue has started to become more and more common (the blue spectrum generally corresponds, in an archetypal way to the 5th Center and to Uranus and to Capricorn and Aquarius, though each has their own range of shades, depth, etc. Venus is the very beginning of blue with her attunement to cyan).

Other folks who have a strong Sun, express it in the more Leo like kind of way, which in an aura and color vibration sense, corresponds to a high orange i.e. yellowey orange. As touched on before, this is a lower octave version of the Sun's actual energy. A "stepped down" version you could say.

As mentioned earlier, will get to the Sag. 1 when I can.

posted October 19, 2020 07:11 PM            

When you say he will want to take back control - control of what exactly? The only thing I feel that I keep reigns on at times are my own emotions when I don't completely trust a man - as I *must* feel secure in order to fully let go. And I'm sure my IC does in fact play a role in this as well. I strongly prefer to be with a healthy masculine man that often takes the lead. And I will openly express my desires and my boundaries to him and won't tolerate mistreatment! I'm feminine, but I'm no pushover.

You are correct that I have a very Cardinal personality that doesn't hesitate to take action. That's why I can't seriously date anyone passive or lazy!! Mega turnoff.

I don't know how to feel about our Uranus connection. As the on-and-off, detached energy of Aquarius has always thrown me off. It's fun, but makes me kind of guarded. Maybe he feels the same? Having Taurus Venus, I'm big on emotional & financial security!! So how exactly does this work out? LOL

posted October 20, 2020 01:19 PM              

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@Galactic

When you say he will want to take back control - control of what exactly? The only thing I feel that I keep reigns on at times are my own emotions when I don't completely trust a man - as I *must* feel secure in order to fully let go. And I'm sure my IC does in fact play a role in this as well. I strongly prefer to be with a healthy masculine man that often takes the lead. And I will openly express my desires and my boundaries to him and won't tolerate mistreatment! I'm feminine, but I'm no pushover.

You are correct that I have a very Cardinal personality that doesn't hesitate to take action. That's why I can't seriously date anyone passive or lazy!! Mega turnoff.

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I guess emotionally and mentally most likely. I'm talking subtle power plays. It could be as simple and seemingly little as little suggestions given here and there, "honey, I think you should or shouldn't do this or that". It's a form of subtle and perhaps well meaning control, that many (or most) of us do in closer/more affecting relationships to some extent, some of the time.

I'm just letting you know that based on your respective charts and your chart synastry, that if this gets amplified and becomes a definite pattern, there will likely be problems. People don't tend to do this so much in the earlier, romance phase of things. Feel good chemicals and hormones are too high. It usually comes after the relationship evolves into the 7th and especially 8th House phase.

For example, both my core partner and I have strong Cardinal and Fixed energies--we are strong personalities (though I'm a bit more passive and she is a bit more active). We love each other very deeply and we're both older Souls. I'm not bossy or controlling much at all with most people most of the time, but what little bit of that is in me, comes out most with her. She on the other hand, is more of a directive type than myself in general (for example, she has Aries Moon and Aquarius S. Node conjunct Aquarius Sun, and I have Libra Moon and angular Pisces South Node), but that side comes out most strongly with me.

Some relationships can take some of that, but many can't. Over time, we've balanced and smoothed out some of that mutual power and boss struggle. But the first few years were pretty rough at times. 19 years later, it's much, much better, but it's still there a bit at times. It's fine as long as we both stay conscious to that, and if it starts getting over much, we reel it in.

The highest form of Love is not controlling at all. What most humans call "love", is a strange admixture of Like attracts Like on the deeper, Soul levels, attraction/hormones, personality level opposites attract, ego, and if you're lucky (well, both older Souls) a little real Love. But most relationships do not have a high quotient of the highest form of Love in that mix and ratio. That's part of the reason why most relationships don't last over a long time. Too much selfishness/ego, and too little real Love on part of both or one party.

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I don't know how to feel about our Uranus connection. As the on-and-off, detached energy of Aquarius has always thrown me off. It's fun, but makes me kind of guarded. Maybe he feels the same? Having Taurus Venus, I'm big on emotional & financial security!! So how exactly does this work out? LOL

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With Uranus comes extremes of positive, feel good stuff, and difficult, challenging stuff. It's like Jupiter on one side, and Saturn-Pluto on the other side, and it flip flops between the two. Uranus is more attached in some ways than Aquarius, but Uranus seeks to be non attached, but Uranus can indicate actually strong emotions unlike Aquarius--that is one of their differences--they are not synonymous with each other--they are different symbols and different energies that have a loose connection.

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And I adore older soul types! I've always been an older soul since childhood. Both of these men are quite a bit older than me BTW. Isn't Saturn big in long-term relationships?

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Yes, I had noticed the age differences. I see no problem with that unless the men involved serially go for much younger women, like Jeff Goldblum types. When a guy (or woman), serially dates only or mostly only much younger partners than themselves, it can be a definite indication of an unhealthy level of narcissism in the older person. Those types of men and women are often best avoided imo, as often they are looking more for an ego prop than a real and Love based connection.

Yeah, strong Saturn contacts can show up in long lived relationships. And the tone of same can change depending on the Natal placements, Signs, etc connected to Saturn in the individual Natals.

For example, both my partner and I have strong Capricorn and Aquarius combo, and so Saturn relates to particularly sensitive, amplifying areas in our respective charts, and it's not surprising that we would have some strong Saturn interaspects. For example, the ruler of her chart, Saturn, along with Jupiter, are conjunct my Moon in Libra and square my Cap Mercury. My Saturn is in her 8th and in the opposite Sign of her Mercury and Mars (though not in direct aspect), trine her Asc, and closely sextile her Uranus ruler of her Sun, Venus, and South Node, and intercepted 1st House Sign (Aquarius).

When Saturn inter-aspects are very strong and/or stressed, but do not relate to particularly important and sensitive points in the Natal, or much less so for the most part, then it tends to indicate difficulties, challenge, stress, and it's not uncommon for mutual or one sided selfishness to break up the relationship.

Not talking of the Signs it's connected to (Capricorn and Aquarius), but Saturn as a planet is very strongly linked to fear, insecurity, ego, separative selfishness, and over materialism. But Saturn also represents the part of our Expanded/Higher self that is the hard, but well meaning teacher and wants us to grow, and we grow most through challenge, difficulty, and friction.

Short answer is, it just really depends on the individual natals involved, as well as the synastric comparison, to see how Saturn will manifest. So much in astrology is quite relative, because no symbol exists in a vacuum of isolation.

posted October 20, 2020 01:45 PM              

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Originally posted by LovelyAries86:
Thank you again for all of your awesome insight Galactic!! I totally understand needing to process the information you are receiving. I'm very eager to hear your thoughts on Sag #1 because some drama has ensued between us since I first created this post.

At this point in my life, I enjoy men with Sag-Violet & Leo energy the most. And when we have Pluto stnastry?! Wouldn't be surprised if I ended up marrying one...

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You're welcome.

Took a look at Sag. 1. There are some definite similar, repeating patterns going on, so some of what I might say might be redundant, so I will skip that and just refer you back to Sag 2.

Something that stands out as very different though, is that Uranus is flipped flopped with him vs Sag. 2. Meaning, while you tend to bring out the extremist side in Sag. 2 strongly, Sag. 1. tends to bring out the extremist, Uranus side of YOU strongly (as indicated by his Sun closely conjunct your Uranus).

Also, with his Saturn very closely conjunct your Jupiter and in your 5th House (barely), he at times may be a bit of an over serious, wet blanket, and/or over controlling type in that area of your life (i.e. romance, creativity, self expression, etc). He would tend to have the affect to damp down the positive, feel good, expansive vibes of Jupiter there. And besides the 5th, it can spill over into the 3rd (communication) and 6th (jobs, health, diet, etc) House areas of your life as well, though to less of an extent than the 5th.

This could be positive or negative depending. He could bring some necessary sobering maturity or seriousness to you in that and related areas, or as mentioned, it could be overly heavy, autocratic, or controlling. As I've been trying to subtly outline, previously, Saturn is more related to the issue and problem of control than any other symbol, though Pluto is not far behind. The Sun can be that way at times, but it's usually more based on positive intentions, whereas with Saturn and Pluto it's more often based on fear, insecurity, and selfishness.

But like with Sag. 2, you also have some patterns of strong mutual attraction, comfort/familiarity, etc. Like his Moon conjunct your Asc, your Venus relatively near his DESC and being the opposite Sign of his Asc, very close Venus Pluto square (can be problematic, but can indicate strong sexual attraction/fascination), etc.

Also a rather karmic type connection with lessons and/or balancing for both sides.

I would take each day at a time with both guys, and not necessarily plan anything binding until you've lived with either guy for awhile.

posted October 20, 2020 06:18 PM            

Love is NOT about ego. Love is generous & kind. And age is unimportant as long as the connection & compatibility is real. Whether a man is 30 or 50 - I don't care! What matters to me is mature character, security, chemistry, etc.

Both Sags look younger than what they are! And love to mentor others. Sag #2 has an eternally youthful spirit, but is also very wise and very deep. Sag #1 is more serious and sober with me like you said - with his Saturn in my 5th House. What's crazy is... at times I act *more* mature than HE does. He does some very weird, childish things when taken out of his comfort zone!

posted October 20, 2020 06:35 PM            

You're a Libra Moon just like Sag #1. I do worry a bit about his ability to go DEEPER on an emotional level and how loyal he can truly be. What would you say about that? What insight can you offer on this placement in relationships?

I'm an Air Void. So when I see a man's Moon or Venus in Air Signs... I wonder about our longevity together. Gotta be honest.