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Nadereme
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posted January 18, 2021 10:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nadereme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Chanterelle:
Well, obviously as humans we misapprehend the universe quite a lot... but are you saying that what’s in the mind is what’s ‘real’? If so, I think that’s what they call solipsism... not buying it.

No, more in the vein of Nagarjuna. Mind being real can also be a misapprehended delusion.

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posted January 18, 2021 01:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chanterelle     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
“Form is emptiness, emptiness is form” type stuff? Sorry, that name is ringing a bell, but nobody’s answering the door right now. But this is interesting: I thought I had a book on Dzogchen Buddhism, but didn’t see it on the shelf. Instead I found a book that I have never seen before, no idea where it came from, called Reiki: A Way of Life. I flipped it open to page 44:
“Energy follows thought — what you think and say creates form in the world... St. Francis of Assisi used to call everything and everyone brother or sister. He referred to the sun as Brother Sun, and the moon as Sister Moon.”

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GalacticCoreExplosion
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posted January 18, 2021 03:30 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Nadereme:
For an alternate take, what if ‘the universe’ is just a misapprehended delusion? Personally I’m a bit curious of all of these ‘galaxies’ and any supposed edges as many space pics are cgi or edited and it’s hard to make out if they are what we are told. I see life as a dream, not something inherently ‘real’ and mind independent as many presume.

This touches on some deep and uncomfortable truths. The dense, physical level of perception is indeed one of the least real levels. Its a temporary one, and a reflection of this particular Co-Creator's original creation.

All of these 125+ billions of Galaxies each with their billions of Stellar systems within same are a temporary, densified reflection of a pattern that WE would experience as being more "nonphysical" like in nature. The forms are there, but they are more easily changed with thought/will/intention (forms being Stars, planets, rocks, plants, animals, water, etc, etc).

What essentially happened as far as I can figure out, is that when Source initially created the many and gave each part of these selves self awareness and freewill, some of those parts had an antipathy to the Oneness of the Whole and to Source. It was like an informational virus developed in one Spirit, and from that Spirit, started to infect others towards having this antipathy (it was only a relatively small percentage of the Whole).

These Spirits became selfish and insular and developed false superiority feelings. While they did not want to be part of Source and the Oneness of the Whole, many did band together as ever Like attracts, begets, resonates with, and likes Like on the deeper levels.

Later on, after one of the Spirits remerged with the Source out of its own freewill, it became the first of the children of Source to completely grow up and become a full companion and Co-Creator with the Source. This particular Universe that we perceive and find ourselves in, is the result of that merging, but rather the patterns behind/within the physical level that we are now focusing on and talking about.

That group of disgruntled, unhappy, control oriented, chaotic, selfish oriented Spirits and siblings of the Co-Creator Spirit saw the Co-Creator's creation and went into same. They were fascinated by all the forms. But rather than appreciating this work of art from a respectful distance, they decided to take their own paintbrushes and started painting OVER their sibling's work of art.

It would be like people visiting a museum, and doodling on say the Mona Lisa or other works of art.

The problem was that this group of Spirits became obsessed with the forms and creation (and with modifying same to their whims), and as they focused more and more on the forms/outer creation, they started to forget who they were and what they came from originally.

And they started to slow down the vibratory rates of themselves and these forms. Gradually getting more and more stuck in a more and more fixed and rigid, and false/distorted belief system VERSION of the original creation, which was in harmony, fast vibratory, and more fluid and thought like in nature.

Thus was the "physical" level temporarily manifested. Helper Spirits and Souls have been coming into this stuck level since and trying to retrieve all the ones who are or have since become stuck in relation to this distorted, reflection level. The beauty we find here, in nature, is real enough in a way, because it's a reflection of the original creation, but otherwise this level is essentially a mirage and more of a collective, distorted belief system rather than an objective, eternal reality.

The physical level will at some point not exist anymore, once all those who are stuck either have been retrieved or have destroyed themselves through consciousness entropy. Meanwhile, Helper/Guidance Spirits and Souls, especially the actual Co-Creator of the original Creation that this level is loosely reflected off of, have been modifying this level since the above process/situation started to happen.

They have tried to turn into a school of learning and remembrance. There have been many changes here, even just in the Earth over the long periods of time. Things got very, very messy in early Atlantis when these rebellious, selfish Spirits were modifying and mixing and matching various forms willy nilly, creating monstrosities.

The Co-Creator while generally believing in and respecting freewill like the Source, decided to get more directly involved at this time in a few different ways. It, with a group of Helpers, made it so that the forms were not so easy to change, and started to modify one set of forms so that these stuck Spirits and Souls could incarnate into and have a semblence of intelligence and perceptual capacity that would somewhat match/reflect and allow for the Spirit and Soul natures to shine through.

Then many of these Helper Spirits volunteered to start incarnating here in these forms (what we call human forms), and the Co-Creator itsself eventually decided to start an incarnating process here. This was all risky, because the nature of this level is very good at distracting a Soul while focused here, from what is real and important.

Even these very Light and Loved attuned Helper Spirits (and later Souls) could become somewhat stuck themselves (and a number have since become somewhat stuck themselves in relation to this level and their siblings).

But eventually, as mentioned, all stuck Spirits and Souls will either be retrieved or they will have become so psychopathic that they will experience a consciousness entropy process that will destroy themselves. The physical as we now know and perceive it as, will no longer exist. It will have "blinked out" so to speak.

What we Helper Spirits and Souls are trying to do, is to raise the vibration of this level to its original, much faster vibratory rate of the Creation as was. Truth being, that original Creation still exists in what we call the "nonphysical".

It is the 4th dimension and what we might call Venus, or rather what Venus symbolically represents and stands in for in natal charts and to our perception (as connecting to and representing this nonphysical dimension). But even these other, more fast vibratory and expanded dimensions like the 4th, etc, are not meant for a Soul's tenancy in any permanent way. They are meant to be visited and appreciated, but as the Soul remembers more and more of it's true, original, Source like nature, then the Soul moves on to what it was meant and HOPED for in the beginning. To become a full companion and Co-Creator with the Source and the Oneness of the Whole of other Creations and other Spirit children to grow up in same, perpetuating the creative project and process, and ever adding more uniqueness and complexity to it all.

Why, because creation, when done from the right place (Love and joy), feels dang good to partake in and is very fulfilling. The art, music, and other creative endeavors/expressions that we have here in the earth as Souls connected to physical forms are like a pale shadow of what is possible in the true reality. These are like practice for what is to come.

Every once in a while here in the earth, we have a Helper individual come here direct from the Source level to partake in some intense retrieval plans/events. Historically, most often, it has been the Co-Creator who has done so, but word on the street is that another Co-Creator has volunteered to come in this cycle to help finish up the retrieval process for this Age. For this Age (the Aquarian), in the Earth, has the potential to be that ultimate retrieval process (for this group of Spirits and their connected Souls).

I call this information challenging and uncomfortable, because what we call the human ego, is partially a manifestation of that original groups collective rebelliousness to Source and the Oneness of the Whole/lack of Love. This is why ever in a human being, there is such a war between Spirit/Love and selfishness, and even Souls who come here straight from the core of Source--once they connect to and express from a physical, human body, they too have to deal with and constantly redirect/transmute that strongly separative and selfish side. (But the ego also has a protective, physically and emotionally, function for human bodies as well, hence it is not all negative/limiting.)

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posted January 18, 2021 03:43 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ALL human codified/organized belief systems have both truth/accuracy and distortions within them, ALL.

There has only been one public, truly and fully enLightened human in our history's remembrance, and his teachings etc have been twisted beyond recognition in many cases.

Most of the rest came from Helper Souls while very helpful and necessary, were not quite fully at that level (core Source consciousness), and then later their information had other distortions added by even less awake humans.

It is one big ocean of distorted belief systems. The only way off this hamster wheel of dogma, distortion, is through a combination of living truth (Love) and going deeply within and directly communing with the Source and Co-Creator level.

These books and texts you speak of, are not an exception to this. They have truth for sure, but they also have distortion. There is not an organized/codified belief system on this earth that doesn't have least some distortion. There is not a human on this earth (minus the one spoken of earlier) who has perfect/completely accurate perception and lacks all distortion.

Word on the street is that this other Co-Creator retriever that I spoke of earlier, is still going through their own awakening process and thus still has distortions in their perception as well. So that leaves one human, Bob Monroe's "He/She" figure, who has completely and fully clear perception.

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posted February 20, 2021 11:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for anonymidarkness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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MoonMystic
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posted February 20, 2021 11:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MoonMystic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I hadn't done my own charts until about 2014 so much is lost tbh. Since I'm from before 2000 - way before. lol
I've had many waves of them (enlightenment episodes) through my entire lifetime. (since my NDE@4 - which I have studied that one.). The dates are rather forgotten , far too many.
Due to your post ♥️ Thank you, I did however go back to my recall of a huge amount of awakening events, in the 2000s. I have a couple blocks of time I'm going to look through. These were powerful and I am very curious. Thank you or posting this. ☺

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so far I found:
Both Jupiter+Mercury were tr my 12th, tr Jupiter sextile  natal Mercury.

Tr Telephus cnj exact (for some of the dates) natal Mercury. I was channeling massive amounts of data.
Non personal data, ouside self interest.
The Mercury declination was parallel with my natal 3rd house (communication).
20° 9'21" S and  20° 0'48" S
and Neptune rx was parked outside my 3rd with parallels too. 15°55'36" S  (my Sun and Venus) 15°59'24" S


tr Neptune rx cnj smack straight on my 3rd house stellium.


*some of our current astrology transits echo back then. Before this period for me the Right to life fight was on Hence our paradigm on who rules whose body. There was a woman that very much awoke my spirit in a way I never imagined, it might be awakened. My heart broke into pieces. Terri Schiavo was put to her death despite many forms of medical and otherwards proofs she in fact was aware, alert, feeling, thinking yet murdered by the tax payers. My heart now pounds heavily at the non caring amongst society that didn't question - they pulled a plug. As though this woman was meaningless.

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Randall
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posted February 28, 2021 01:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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