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Nadereme
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posted October 27, 2020 01:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nadereme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
When it happens do you check the transits and progressions to your natal? It's often said that few attain buddhahood, but I see it happening a bit more often, just a bit.

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posted October 27, 2020 02:04 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
One of my first awakenings when 12/13, happened when my Sun progressed from Capricorn into Aquarius, and T. Uranus and Neptune was conjoining my Sun, which is the ruler of my chart.

Started to get guidance downloads during that time, and shortly after became very interested in and focused on figuring out all of life's deeper mysteries and big questions. Also started to work on self consciously then by examining and improving character, practicing meditation, studying astrology, etc.

But true and full enLightenment seems to be rather misunderstood by humans. Rather than relying on what other humans say or don't say about it, I have gone deeply within and asked about it. Basically I always ask to connect only to the most positive, Love attuned, most aware, and helpful sources, and I ask these during deep meditation what is or isn't true, with no preconceptions as to answers or how they may come.

I was told that within this current cycle, the full/true enLIghtenment is not possible until the body physical dies, and the Soul from a very fast vibratory level in the nonphysical, consciously co-creates a new form based on on the old form, but it's a direct translation/download from pure consciousness into the physical i.e. not really a human body anymore and yet can interact with human bodies in physical like ways and be easily perceived.

This is state that Yeshua ("Jesus") exists in now. He is still in the world, but no longer of it. Well known OBE author and founder of The Monroe Institute, Robert A. Monroe (aka Bob Monroe) met him after asking his guidance during an OBE state, if he could meet the most "mature" (spiritually evolved) human living in his time/space reference.*

In the further future, when the collective consciousness and vibration of humanity is much faster vibratory/more expanded/spiritually attuned, this whole process will not be necessary. The bodies then, will already be lighter/finer and faster vibratory--more akin to the level we call the etheric body/level in current, and which a number of more evolved ET groups operate from when they have a connected body and physical world base.

* This is Monroe's account if interested: http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum6/HTML/000580-2.html

I've not met "He/She" in the way that Monroe met them, but I have had meditation interactions and dreams about this person. His energy/radiation is something else. Edgar Cayce's guidance frequently referred to him as the "Teacher of teachers" and "Master of Masters", and I can understand why from the brief interactions and glimpses that I have had.

I am not religious and haven't ever been.

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posted October 27, 2020 09:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for anonymidarkness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Does the mind disappear entirely ?

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posted October 27, 2020 09:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for kani     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It happened to me in september 2002 when I was 21 after a phase of darkness and it happened to be the kick off to a veryyyy long phase of a dark night for the soul. It felt like dying while being alive. I couldn't see any specific transits that would catch my eye though

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posted October 27, 2020 09:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted October 27, 2020 09:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Franco     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Recently I have had several awakenings, they were not complete, but I experienced non-duality and the orgasm of happiness in each of them. I find it strange to talk about astrology again, since after the experience it has become clear to me that there is nothing more than "one", there are not two ... so who is this message directed to? even holding on to astrology reinforces the ego ... even knowing that the transit produces desire and goes against flowing with life. anyway ... I am back to my normal life and unless I experience non-duality again, I am in my normal monotonous life. the transits I had and continue to happen:

pluto conjunction ASC / saturn / uranus / neptune

Saturn conjunct ASC / uranus / neptune

jupiter conjunction ASC / uranus / neptune / saturn

saturn return


neptune conjunct the natal moon

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posted October 27, 2020 09:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for anonymidarkness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^ Yeah I found even holding onto any technique reinforces some pattern

But then when I drop it the mind comes back again running back...and im like dafuqqq

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Hi Franco. One of the deepest downloads I received from guidance was about the "beginning" of creation. I don't mean the physical universe as we perceive it (this came much later if we are to put a linear like time perspective to it), but when the One Consciousness, decided to become the Many while retaining It's original self awareness.

When there was literally only One Consciousness in existence, and it was very passive, still, feeling in nature, it became VERY dissatisfied, and more than anything it experienced two things that we could equate to human like terms. Extreme, aching loneliness/desire for companionship, and a deep curiosity, because it sensed that more was possible.

And this is why this original, first Consciousness we could call the Source, DOESN'T EVER WANT TO GO BACK TO JUST BEING ONE CONSCIOUSNESS ALL ALONE UNTO ITSELF AGAIN. I can't stress that enough. What It would like (from what I can sense and gather), is that we become aware of and join in the Oneness as self aware individuals. It's like a grand Orchestra where everyone is playing in tune and in harmony with everyone else. And while most casual listeners tend to hear a "homogeneous" sound of orchestral symphony, if you focus and tune in, you can hear and pick out each individual instrument/player. Can one individual and one instrument recreate a full symphony on it's own in real time? No, it takes the many playing in Oneness.

Oneness is very true, but so isn't individuality/self awareness/uniqueness, and the Source itself cherishes the latter just as much as it does the former. Both are equally and simultaneously true and important in this whole thing. It's just that in physicals like humans put way, way, way too much emphasis and focus on the individuality part. So sometimes, as part of our Soul and Spirit awakening, we have to focus strongly on Oneness temporarily to get a better balance and integration.

I've been through such phases/cycles, especially under very strong Neptune transits or activations of N. Neptune.

I have a friend who like me, has had Oneness experiences/feelings/perceptions as well. But before that, he was part of a Guru group that taught and promoted Non duality. He eventually learned that his Guru was not everything that he claimed and that his disciples believed. He was another human with an ego (and perhaps more than the average).

For awhile, Albert became disillusioned with spirituality etc, but then he started to have more and more direct nonphysical and guidance communication experiences. He eventually figured out that he could trust his inner guidance as it was always helpful and often quite accurate--they/it would give information that could be verified in no nonsense, physical kinds of ways as well. For example, he would be meditating, and then experience an earthquake nonphysically, and then shortly after, an actual physical earthquake would happen.

He realized that every organized human teaching out there had a mix of dogma, distortion and some truth. But like this self, he wasn't interested in the dogma and distortion parts, and so he has gone deeply within more and more over the years, rather than listening to this or that teaching, fellow human, etc.

It has served him well, as he is one of the most Love attuned and fast vibratory people that I have ever met. I've seen him in situations of people raging illogically and spitefully at him and he just returns it constantly with reason, patience, and care (we use to be on the same spiritual forum). (Strong Love attunement can have surprisingly strong polarizing effects on people).

Anyways, he wrote a book called Joining the Oneness: Beyond Nonduality His name is Albert Haust. I actually referenced him on Brenda's thread earlier. This is an intro to the first chapter: http://nondualityisdualistic.com/joining-the-oneness/introduction/

And this is the first chapter itself: http://nondualityisdualistic.com/joining-the-oneness/chapter-1/

His writing is a little dry, but having known Albert for many years, and having met up with him a couple times in person (he lives on the West coast of US and I on the East coast)--I have found him to be an unusually sincere and honest person--one of the things I really like about him, because truly he lacks all guile and pretension.

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posted October 28, 2020 04:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sauerkraut     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by GalacticCoreExplosion:
I was told that within this current cycle, the full/true enLIghtenment is not possible until the body physical dies, and the Soul from a very fast vibratory level in the nonphysical, consciously co-creates a new form based on on the old form...

^this is what ive come to understand.

the only one ive checked was my most intense experience and it happened during saturn return. it lasted a couple of earthly weeks but its impossible to sustain that energy in this flesh body imo. the human world does not support it. we can continually get tastes of it but we must learn to integrate it into healthy minds and egos so we can learn to enjoy this world as limited humans.


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posted October 28, 2020 10:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kannon McAfee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I like what GlacticCoreExplosion and Sauerkraut had to say about experiencing breakthrough moments of oneness, then getting back to the enjoyment of being human in this world. I'd been edging up on that perception lately myself, but you both said it very well.

I can answer about the astrological transits because I had two such moments years apart. First was Feb-May 1996 (especially April-May). Second was November 10, 2004 and in the couple years or so that followed.

In early 1996 I was meditating deeply while using the Edgar Cayce radial appliance and experienced what I could only term the universal field of compassion, complete oneness of self-others-body-consciousness in a total state of stillness and peace. It took at least a couple months of daily meditation practice to get there. It has had a lasting effect on my life perspective and has served as a kind of measuring standard for where I'm at any given point in my life. Transits that stand out (using May 1st):

* Pluto conjunct natal Neptune (and opposite natal Venus & Mars)
* Neptune trine natal Venus (and Mercury)
- Neptune square natal Jupiter & sextile natal Neptune
- Neptune contra-parallel natal Mercury & Venus
* Uranus trine natal Mars & Uranus & square natal Sun
* Jupiter trine natal Asc & just past conjunction to natal Moon
- Jupiter parallel natal IC, contra-parallel natal Mars

In Nov 2004 it was Reconnective Healing (energy) for the first time at a distance. It pulled me out of a lingering severe depression and I felt transcendant love the rest of the day. It began a new phase of my life of growth and many changes. Transits that stand out are:

* Pluto square natal Asc & Pluto
- Pluto quincunx natal Mercury
- Neptune square natal Saturn & contra-parallel natal Pluto
* Uranus sextile natal Sun & square natal Mars
- Saturn sextile natal Venus
* Jupiter conjunct natal Uranus, trine natal Mars & square natal Moon
- Mars applying conjunct natal Jupiter
- Venus contra-parallel natal Asc


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posted October 28, 2020 11:20 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Sauerkraut:
^this is what ive come to understand.

the only one ive checked was my most intense experience and it happened during saturn return. it lasted a couple of earthly weeks but its impossible to sustain that energy in this flesh body imo. the human world does not support it. we can continually get tastes of it but we must learn to integrate it into healthy minds and egos so we can learn to enjoy this world as limited humans.


Well and concisely said. People often mistake temporary enlightened perceptions and emotional states for "enlightenment", but taking the physical body along is a whole other process. Thoughts and even emotions can change pretty quickly, but the body is a much denser and slower vibratory field. You can up it's vibration a little here, and a little there, but if you try to up it too much at once--well, just like a filament in a light bulb rated for 60 watts, if you pump 1000 watts of current through, you're likely to burn out the filament.

The body is similar. It's a slow and gradual transformation for the most part. But the heightened perceptions etc can come in very fast.

I think Monroe's "He/She" is a very good standard to have for full enLightenment because this person is ageless, doesn't eat, drink, nor sleep anymore. He has transcended every human limitation that we call a so called "necessity". A very good ego check for people with egos on a spiritual path. Because if you are not at that level and aren't like "He/She", chances are, you're not truly and fully enLightened.

And if I'm correct that Yeshua and "He/She" are the same person, then Yeshua himself had his physical body die before he went through the process I outlined. (Monroe's surprised blurting out of 1800 years old is a bit off, but one gets the sense he kind of said the first thing that came to his mind, rather than focus on left brain detail/accuracy. I mean the dude was out of his body at the time, and thus was definitely more "right brain" like focused).

I've mentioned on another thread that my partner of nearly 2 decades, has had a handful of dreams in the last 7 or so years about me dying young, in my mid 40's (I'm relatively new to the 40's now). I asked guidance and pulled a tarot card about it, and out of all the tarot cards, I pulled the Death card (to which we both burst out laughing).

A little after the above, a new spiritual friend told me that he felt directed by guidance/the Creative Forces to pull out his copy of the Vedas and opened to a certain page and felt it was for me and this is what it said (Note, I was thinking about this topic intensely at the time, which he didn't know, and I wondered if full/true enLightenment was possible while connected to a physical, human body):

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"We worship the Mother of three realms,
Renowned to be the granter of eternal glory,
Let the separation of our soul from our body
Be a step to absolute liberation

May She release our soul from the bondage
Of mortal life
As the ripened melon is separated from its stem.
May our death be a step to immortality."

"Having taken the oath to dedicate your life
Towards gaining immortality,
May you know that the path that leads to it
Is that of complete surrender and dedication.
Remember, you are the child of immortality."

"O Lord, liberate our souls
From the shadows of birth and death,
Not from our aspirations of existence, i.e.,
immortality."

"O God, help me to put an end
To all physical desires of the maligned body,
Bless that I may qualify to partake
Of the nectar of immortal love."


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I enjoyed reading your post Kannon, and I'm glad you were able to get out of that deep depression.

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I forgot to include another 'satori' moment that was halfway between the two I mentioned. It was within a day or two of March 17, 2000. I think it was probably the 18th or after. I'd been talking to an Australian woman online and sharing some of my poetry with her and when I read one in particular she told me what had happened to her that day. It became immediately clear I had written it about her and to her -- years before we'd talked the first time. I was shaking so much with a surge of energy that I couldn't type anymore and had to lie down for a while. It was temporary nerve overload, but not a bad thing; like being caught off guard and having the shell of human mundane normalcy broken, and feeling physically for the first time the connection to that particular soul that some part of me had known all along. Transits for March 18:

* Pluto square natal Asc (orb=4.4°s)
- Neptune trine natal Mars & Uranus
- Neptune square natal Sun
- Neptune parallel natal Neptune
* Uranus quincunx natal Asc
- Saturn return + trine natal Moon & Asc
* Jupiter conjunct natal Sun, nearly exactly
- Jupiter quincunx natal Uranus
- Mars contra-parallel natal Jupiter

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...I was shaking so much with a surge of energy that I couldn't type anymore and had to lie down for a while. It was temporary nerve overload...

Thank you for sharing Kannon. Oddly, I had the same kind of experience, though only once. It was the second time I met my partner/Twin Soul and when we actually spent more time together by ourselves (we were camping and shared the same tent).

I don't know why or what precipitated it--I think we had just been talking, but all of a sudden I started shaking or vibrating in a shivering like way. It was like you said, like nerve overload.

That happened about 19 years ago, but I haven't ever experienced it since.

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posted January 16, 2021 11:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nadereme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I’ve been very interested in Dzogchen lately. I wonder what astrologically correlates to empty and clear natural perfection?

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Can speak about this more metaphorically. Source and pure Love Consciousness are like the clear/white Light. That Light contains all 6 major color wavelengths within same, but in a perfectly balanced, integrated, and merged way.

The colors within the clear Light are like the 6 other Chakras/Centers, various Planets and major levels of consciousness. Color in this case, represents a dissonance, out of phase relationship with the Source and pure Love. A human aura for example, almost always contains color more than the clear/white Light. It's because their consciousness is not fully resonant with Source and Love consciousness. If you meet someone with a radiant, bright clear/white Light aura--this person is most likely a completed one. They have realized their true, original nature and fully consciously exist in same.

In other words, there is no symbol in our little system that corresponds to Source and pure Love consciousness. The one that comes closest in our local system is the Sun, because the Sun corresponds to the fastest vibratory/most expanded vibrational level of this system. In color and aura terms, it is the golden Light, which is not far (vibrationally wise) the clear/white Light. I'm NOT talking about "Leo" when I talk about the Sun. Leo is like a stepped down, slower vibratory octave of the Sun's very expanded energy.

However, the level of the Sun whether as expressed as through a human, or being a specific dimension in our "afterlife" system of dimensions, does not = spiritual perfection. It's on its way, but not there yet. It is the color and vibration of the initiate and graduate who becomes aware of the choice to enter into greater/more expanded systems than this one.

Some do so, and then come back for service reasons. It is usually these types that are relatively closer to this than most in a probable sense. Because as one gets closer, the vibrational rates speed up. It goes from red through the colors to violet and purple, and then to golden Light. Edgar Cayce's guidance said that purple and gold represent the fastest vibratory colors (aspects of the white/clear Light).

For a contrasting example, people who are narcissistic to ASPD, tend to have A LOT of red in their aura. Red is a very slow vibratory wavelength. It aligns very strongly with ego and with the material level of energies. We all need SOME red in our energy patterns for physical vitality, strengthening the will to do/act, etc, but it is easy to get too much, and when you do, the more red there is, the more increase in selfishness/self focus and materialism you see.

What separates the narcissist type from the ASPD type energetically, is that the former will tend to have a lot of more regular red (Mars) in their aura, while the ASPD type typically has a lot of rather dark reds in their aura (often negative expression of Pluto and/or Mars), often combined with large patches of complete absence of Light (appears as black--this btw, is Saturn in it's worst expression/attunement).

The irony about this, is that such people often seem and feel very "alive" in a raw way. They tend to have a lot of personality magnetism/charisma. When they are hiding their real selves, they can be very charming and attractive.

Conversely, those that come here from other, more expanded systems and who have unusually and very fast vibratory fields, tend not to be well received, liked, understood, etc for the most part.

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posted January 17, 2021 12:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nadereme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by GalacticCoreExplosion:
Can speak about this more metaphorically. Source and pure Love Consciousness are like the clear/white Light. That Light contains all 6 major color wavelengths within same, but in a perfectly balanced, integrated, and merged way.

The colors within the clear Light are like the 6 other Chakras/Centers, various Planets and major levels of consciousness. Color in this case, represents a dissonance, out of phase relationship with the Source and pure Love. A human aura for example, almost always contains color more than the clear/white Light. It's because their consciousness is not fully resonant with Source and Love consciousness. If you meet someone with a radiant, bright clear/white Light aura--this person is most likely a completed one. They have realized their true, original nature and fully consciously exist in same.

In other words, there is no symbol in our little system that corresponds to Source and pure Love consciousness. The one that comes closest in our local system is the Sun, because the Sun corresponds to the fastest vibratory/most expanded vibrational level of this system. In color and aura terms, it is the golden Light, which is not far (vibrationally wise) the clear/white Light. I'm NOT talking about "Leo" when I talk about the Sun. Leo is like a stepped down, slower vibratory octave of the Sun's very expanded energy.

However, the level of the Sun whether as expressed as through a human, or being a specific dimension in our "afterlife" system of dimensions, does not = spiritual perfection. It's on its way, but not there yet. It is the color and vibration of the initiate and graduate who becomes aware of the choice to enter into greater/more expanded systems than this one.

Some do so, and then come back for service reasons. It is usually these types that are relatively closer to this than most in a probable sense. Because as one gets closer, the vibrational rates speed up. It goes from red through the colors to violet and purple, and then to golden Light. Edgar Cayce's guidance said that purple and gold represent the fastest vibratory colors (aspects of the white/clear Light).

For a contrasting example, people who are narcissistic to ASPD, tend to have A LOT of red in their aura. Red is a very slow vibratory wavelength. It aligns very strongly with ego and with the material level of energies. We all need SOME red in our energy patterns for physical vitality, strengthening the will to do/act, etc, but it is easy to get too much, and when you do, the more red there is, the more increase in selfishness/self focus and materialism you see.

What separates the narcissist type from the ASPD type energetically, is that the former will tend to have a lot of more regular red (Mars) in their aura, while the ASPD type typically has a lot of rather dark reds in their aura (often negative expression of Pluto and/or Mars), often combined with large patches of complete absence of Light (appears as black--this btw, is Saturn in it's worst expression/attunement).

The irony about this, is that such people often seem and feel very "alive" in a raw way. They tend to have a lot of personality magnetism/charisma. When they are hiding their real selves, they can be very charming and attractive.

Conversely, those that come here from other, more expanded systems and who have unusually and very fast vibratory fields, tend not to be well received, liked, understood, etc for the most part.


Interesting, but I wonder if it might actually correlate to the moon phase of the full moon instead. Lunar calendars... finger pointing to the moon...

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Interesting, but I wonder if it might actually correlate to the moon phase of the full moon instead. Lunar calendars... finger pointing to the moon...

Not sure which part you were actually addressing with the above?

Moon correlates most to the "emotional" layer of the aura, along with the ASC Sign and factors (Sign of ruling planet) to a lesser extent. When I talk about the aura in terms of consciousness growth or lack, I'm primarily talking about what most aura sensitives/perceivers refer to as the "mental" layer of the aura.

This is the part that changes more slowly and often only with noticeable changes in the character and life of the person. Usually most affected by major transits of slower moving Planets like Jupiter out to Pluto or progression of Sun. Essentially, major transformations or major falls are what affects this layer the most.

As to indicating the colors and patterns in the mental layer of the aura in a general and consistent sense, the strongest Planets at birth and/or the Sun Sign and strongest aspects tend to correlate with this level the most when a person is not being affected by major transits and progressions.

For example, when I was trying to figure out the correlations between all these different levels, I got pretty good at "guessing" peoples favorite colors after I spent some timing tuning into the archetypal color and Center correlations of the different Planets, Signs, etc.

I was taking advantage of the main law/reaction built into all levels of creation, which many religions and beliefs have touched upon in some way or another, and which can be best summed up in the more Hermetic like phrase, "Like attracts, begets, resonates with, and likes Like on the deeper Soul and energetic levels".

I knew that if if I was correct about the intuitive color and aura associations of the different Planets and Signs, then people's most preferred colors would tend to match up to/align with their strongest Planets the most (and to lesser extent the Signs). For example, I noted if a person had Mars as their strongest Planet and also I felt a lot of red in their aura, often they would like the color red a lot in a consistent sense. Moon would be things like coral pinks, or sometimes very pale greens, Mercury yellows or tans, Venus nice greens from emerald greens to cyans, Jupiter to purples, Uranus from electric blues to near indigo--though sometimes mixes of extreme and contrasting colors (meaning a slow vibratory color along side a fast vibratory, like red with indigo), Neptune to lighter and more bluish violets (like lavenders etc), Pluto to either dark reds (negative expression) to deep reddish purples (more positive expression/attunement).

Although, I also found that sometimes, if a person had a certain color and Planet very strong in their aura, sometimes they were strongly drawn to the opposite/complimentary color. I'll give an example. I have a friend with Sag Rising with Jupiter in Pisces and Angular (in her 4th) with some strong aspects i.e. Jupiter is a pretty strong/highlighted symbol in her chart. And, she feels like she has a fair amount of purple in her aura. Yet, she gravitates strongly to purple's opposite color yellow. Inutuitvely, though unconsciously so, she knows that she needs that as a counter balance. Indeed, she does have a lack of Mercury in her chart, and not surprisingly she tends to be attracted to more cerebral type male partners whereas she is rather "right brain" and "heart" centered and oriented (she also has Cancer Sun, Scorpio Moon).

You OFTEN see this in closer relationships where people of strong opposite energies get together almost as if to try to balance each other out some. Someone with a lot of regular red (Mars and to a lesser extent Aries [I've found Aries interestingly can have a Mercurial, yellow like side to it simultaneously besides the red and Mars) in their aura might be rather attracted to someone with a lot of green to cyan (Venus), which is it's opposite or vice versa with the Venusians being attracted to the Martians.

Course, I'm over simplifying some of this for the sake of brevity, and many of us have multiple colors strong in the mental layer of our aura.

Self started to become obsessed with figuring all these connections between the different metaphysics, using astrology as the key cornerstone, when 16. Self is now in their 40's.

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posted January 17, 2021 04:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nadereme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Not sure which part you were actually addressing with the above?

Moon correlates most to the "emotional" layer of the aura, along with the ASC Sign and factors (Sign of ruling planet) to a lesser extent. When I talk about the aura in terms of consciousness growth or lack, I'm primarily talking about what most aura sensitives/perceivers refer to as the "mental" layer of the aura.

This is the part that changes more slowly and often only with noticeable changes in the character and life of the person. Usually most affected by major transits of slower moving Planets like Jupiter out to Pluto or progression of Sun. Essentially, major transformations or major falls are what affects this layer the most.

As to indicating the colors and patterns in the mental layer of the aura in a general and consistent sense, the strongest Planets at birth and/or the Sun Sign and strongest aspects tend to correlate with this level the most when a person is not being affected by major transits and progressions.

For example, when I was trying to figure out the correlations between all these different levels, I got pretty good at "guessing" peoples favorite colors after I spent some timing tuning into the archetypal color and Center correlations of the different Planets, Signs, etc.

I was taking advantage of the main law/reaction built into all levels of creation, which many religions and beliefs have touched upon in some way or another, and which can be best summed up in the more Hermetic like phrase, "Like attracts, begets, resonates with, and likes Like on the deeper Soul and energetic levels".

I knew that if if I was correct about the intuitive color and aura associations of the different Planets and Signs, then people's most preferred colors would tend to match up to/align with their strongest Planets the most (and to lesser extent the Signs). For example, I noted if a person had Mars as their strongest Planet and also I felt a lot of red in their aura, often they would like the color red a lot in a consistent sense. Moon would be things like coral pinks, or sometimes very pale greens, Mercury yellows or tans, Venus nice greens from emerald greens to cyans, Jupiter to purples, Uranus from electric blues to near indigo--though sometimes mixes of extreme and contrasting colors (meaning a slow vibratory color along side a fast vibratory, like red with indigo), Neptune to lighter and more bluish violets (like lavenders etc), Pluto to either dark reds (negative expression) to deep reddish purples (more positive expression/attunement).

Although, I also found that sometimes, if a person had a certain color and Planet very strong in their aura, sometimes they were strongly drawn to the opposite/complimentary color. I'll give an example. I have a friend with Sag Rising with Jupiter in Pisces and Angular (in her 4th) with some strong aspects i.e. Jupiter is a pretty strong/highlighted symbol in her chart. And, she feels like she has a fair amount of purple in her aura. Yet, she gravitates strongly to purple's opposite color yellow. Inutuitvely, though unconsciously so, she knows that she needs that as a counter balance. Indeed, she does have a lack of Mercury in her chart, and not surprisingly she tends to be attracted to more cerebral type male partners whereas she is rather "right brain" and "heart" centered and oriented (she also has Cancer Sun, Scorpio Moon).

You OFTEN see this in closer relationships where people of strong opposite energies get together almost as if to try to balance each other out some. Someone with a lot of regular red (Mars and to a lesser extent Aries [I've found Aries interestingly can have a Mercurial, yellow like side to it simultaneously besides the red and Mars) in their aura might be rather attracted to someone with a lot of green to cyan (Venus), which is it's opposite or vice versa with the Venusians being attracted to the Martians.

Course, I'm over simplifying some of this for the sake of brevity, and many of us have multiple colors strong in the mental layer of our aura.

Self started to become obsessed with figuring all these connections between the different metaphysics, using astrology as the key cornerstone, when 16. Self is now in their 40's.


Oh, I meant that an awakening of clear empty awareness might correlate to the moon, specifically the full moon phase. But reading Dzogchen and Chan texts there are often references to the Sun and Moon, so I was wondering if that could mean anything.

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Both my repeat observations of the Moon over 28 years or so, and Edgar Cayce's work, indicate that the Moon is a slower vibratory energy.

It corresponds to the 2nd Center primarily in an archetypal way. It often shows up in auras as a coral pink color and often as grays. (Though sometimes the most positive expression is linked to a pale/light green).

Cayce's guidance for example linked it often to low level fears, worries, materialism, over sex focus (though not in the Mars, super aggressive and lustful way, but more in a feminine and passive way), minor changes, basically low level spiritual weakness.

What the Moon really corresponds to on the deeper levels is the somewhat common experience of a percentage of Souls who are incarnated in human forms, and once their human form dies, instead of phasing to the nonphysical dimension/level that they most belong and resonate to on a deeper level, because of distorted beliefs (like religious beliefs or atheism/materialism), fears, dying traumatically or suddenly, etc, etc, the individual stays stuck to the physical level (often not even realizing that their bodies are gone).

The Moon in other words, represents what we call "ghosts" and that vibrational level that is in between the 3rd (Earth) and the fully nonphysical 4th (Venus) dimensions.

Interestingly, many astrologer unconsciously recognize this deeper truth, because many say that Venus is the higher octave of the Moon, (and in turn Neptune is the higher octave of Venus).

The individuals stuck in these level range are usually decent types of relatively average consciousness development, and there is much work/collaboration that goes on between helpers incarnated in physical bodies and helpers focused in the nonphysical in trying to "retrieve" these poor, suffering Souls. (Both my partner and I have had a number of dreams of doing retrieval work with such individuals).

This is why, btw, very strong Moon natally correlates often with very strong emotions. Reason being is that the physical and human experience itself is the emotional par excellence, but what happens when you take out the grounding of the body, but the Soul is still way over attached to the physical and often times these individuals think/believe they are still in a body?

Whoo boy the emotions/feelings get heightened big time. And often these individuals play out, over and over again, traumas, difficult experiences, (or sometimes loves/romances) almost as if they are constantly reliving them. This builds up a very strong emotional attunement, and often in a somewhat unbalanced way, which is probably one of the reasons why the Moon also has strong correlations to mental health issues i.e. as it was called in the olden days, "lunacy".

In other words, the Moon and people particularly strongly attuned to same, are nowhere near enLightenment in a vibrational sense.

Again, strong Solar attunement comes closest of all symbols in this little system. For example, Cayce's guidance referred to the Sun as the "infinity forces". Infinity is a small word with a very expanded implication/meaning. They also further supported this pattern of the Sun being a very fast vibratory consciousness/dimensional level, when they said that Cayce's Spirit/Expanded self projected a Soul from itself that was a spiritual teacher/healer type, Ra Ta, that came into the Earth from the dimension/level that corresponds to the Sun.

His source indicated that this individual was rather unusual in many ways, as to his spiritual and psychic awareness, love of and service to others, and even that he was also born in a very unusual way--implied is that an advanced ET group impregnated his earthly mother with a genetically enhanced DNA pattern. I.e. that he was conceived without his mother "knowing" a human father (she was a virgin apparently). "the gods" of the "mountains" "brought about his materialization into the earth".

Not that he was spiritually perfected, fully enLightened though. He wasn't, and sometimes he made mistakes and sometimes big mistakes. Again, the golden Light of the Sun is relatively near the clear/white Light of Source and pure Love Consciousness (i.e. Oneness Consciousness), but not fully there by any means.

You cannot put Source and pure Love Consciousness into any little astrological box of any single symbol. It just doesn't work that way. It is beyond ALL symbols. We're talking the alpha and omega here. The clear/white Light represents and correlates most to a combination of pure Love attunement and a perfect balance between all Centers (i.e. all 7 Centers perfect balance and attunement), all colors, all Planets into a integrated, balanced, and merged whole--just like the clear/white light contains all color in a balanced way.

The Oneness of the Whole cannot be represented by any singular symbol.

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Originally posted by Nadereme:
Oh, I meant that an awakening of clear empty awareness might correlate to the moon, specifically the full moon phase. But reading Dzogchen and Chan texts there are often references to the Sun and Moon, so I was wondering if that could mean anything.

A relevant quote would help, but I have come across texts that use “Lunar/feminine” and “Solar/masculine” in ways that suggest equivalence with Yin and Yang energies. So maybe that’s what they mean.

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Originally posted by GalacticCoreExplosion:
Both my repeat observations of the Moon over 28 years or so, and Edgar Cayce's work, indicate that the Moon is a slower vibratory energy.

It corresponds to the 2nd Center primarily in an archetypal way. It often shows up in auras as a coral pink color and often as grays. (Though sometimes the most positive expression is linked to a pale/light green).

Cayce's guidance for example linked it often to low level fears, worries, materialism, over sex focus (though not in the Mars, super aggressive and lustful way, but more in a feminine and passive way), minor changes, basically low level spiritual weakness.

What the Moon really corresponds to on the deeper levels is the somewhat common experience of a percentage of Souls who are incarnated in human forms, and once their human form dies, instead of phasing to the nonphysical dimension/level that they most belong and resonate to on a deeper level, because of distorted beliefs (like religious beliefs or atheism/materialism), fears, dying traumatically or suddenly, etc, etc, the individual stays stuck to the physical level (often not even realizing that their bodies are gone).

The Moon in other words, represents what we call "ghosts" and that vibrational level that is in between the 3rd (Earth) and the fully nonphysical 4th (Venus) dimensions.

Interestingly, many astrologer unconsciously recognize this deeper truth, because many say that Venus is the higher octave of the Moon, (and in turn Neptune is the higher octave of Venus).

The individuals stuck in these level range are usually decent types of relatively average consciousness development, and there is much work/collaboration that goes on between helpers incarnated in physical bodies and helpers focused in the nonphysical in trying to "retrieve" these poor, suffering Souls. (Both my partner and I have had a number of dreams of doing retrieval work with such individuals).

This is why, btw, very strong Moon natally correlates often with very strong emotions. Reason being is that the physical and human experience itself is the emotional par excellence, but what happens when you take out the grounding of the body, but the Soul is still way over attached to the physical and often times these individuals think/believe they are still in a body?

Whoo boy the emotions/feelings get heightened big time. And often these individuals play out, over and over again, traumas, difficult experiences, (or sometimes loves/romances) almost as if they are constantly reliving them. This builds up a very strong emotional attunement, and often in a somewhat unbalanced way, which is probably one of the reasons why the Moon also has strong correlations to mental health issues i.e. as it was called in the olden days, "lunacy".

In other words, the Moon and people particularly strongly attuned to same, are nowhere near enLightenment in a vibrational sense.

Again, strong Solar attunement comes closest of all symbols in this little system. For example, Cayce's guidance referred to the Sun as the "infinity forces". Infinity is a small word with a very expanded implication/meaning. They also further supported this pattern of the Sun being a very fast vibratory consciousness/dimensional level, when they said that Cayce's Spirit/Expanded self projected a Soul from itself that was a spiritual teacher/healer type, Ra Ta, that came into the Earth from the dimension/level that corresponds to the Sun.

His source indicated that this individual was rather unusual in many ways, as to his spiritual and psychic awareness, love of and service to others, and even that he was also born in a very unusual way--implied is that an advanced ET group impregnated his earthly mother with a genetically enhanced DNA pattern. I.e. that he was conceived without his mother "knowing" a human father (she was a virgin apparently). "the gods" of the "mountains" "brought about his materialization into the earth".

Not that he was spiritually perfected, fully enLightened though. He wasn't, and sometimes he made mistakes and sometimes big mistakes. Again, the golden Light of the Sun is relatively near the clear/white Light of Source and pure Love Consciousness (i.e. Oneness Consciousness), but not fully there by any means.

You cannot put Source and pure Love Consciousness into any little astrological box of any single symbol. It just doesn't work that way. It is beyond ALL symbols. We're talking the alpha and omega here. The clear/white Light represents and correlates most to a combination of pure Love attunement and a perfect balance between all Centers (i.e. all 7 Centers perfect balance and attunement), all colors, all Planets into a integrated, balanced, and merged whole--just like the clear/white light contains all color in a balanced way.

The Oneness of the Whole cannot be represented by any singular symbol.


Interesting perspective, I can’t help but feel that pure love/source consciousness is very high vibe Venusian and Neptunian however.

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Venus, Neptune, Jupiter, and Sun all connect to differing levels of Love. And yes, Neptune is a pretty fast vibrational symbol in an archetypal sense, relatively speaking (Venus more mid vibratory). But pure, Source like Love does not have a "color", but is of the pure clear/white Light. My guidance has often been shown to me as pure white/clear Light. When I meditate and seek guidance, I ask to connect to the most Love attuned, most helpful, aware, positive, mature/evolved sources. This is the Source and Co-Creator level. The Co-Creators are fully grown up "children" of Source that literally partake in the creation of new realities and new Spirits to grow up in their creations. This Universe seems mighty big to us with its 125+ billion galaxies so far observed. However, beyond the boundaries of this Universe are other Universes, and each of these has its own Co-Creator Being which "painted" and "sung" (imagined/willed) it into existence.

Our little Solar system (especially earth) on the other hand, is like an elementary school in the grand scheme of things.

Venus is connected to the 4th Center in an archetypal sense, and Neptune (along with Jupiter) is connected to the 6th Center in an archetypal sense.

I agree with Chanterelle that the texts speak of Sun and Moon in the context of Yang and Yin. Because as a consciousness gets closer and closer to full enLightenment, and as the 7th Center (which corresponds to the Pituitary gland) becomes more and more active, one of the interesting processes that happens is that inner Yin and Yang within that Soul starts to blend, integrate, balance and merge together to reveal a whole that is greater than the sum of its parts. We often think of 1+1 as equaling 2. But the merged whole of Yin and Yang is more like a balanced 3.

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Originally posted by GalacticCoreExplosion:
Venus, Neptune, Jupiter, and Sun all connect to differing levels of Love. And yes, Neptune is a pretty fast vibrational symbol in an archetypal sense, relatively speaking (Venus more mid vibratory). But pure, Source like Love does not have a "color", but is of the pure clear/white Light. My guidance has often been shown to me as pure white/clear Light. When I meditate and seek guidance, I ask to connect to the most Love attuned, most helpful, aware, positive, mature/evolved sources. This is the Source and Co-Creator level. The Co-Creators are fully grown up "children" of Source that literally partake in the creation of new realities and new Spirits to grow up in their creations. This Universe seems mighty big to us with its 125+ billion galaxies so far observed. However, beyond the boundaries of this Universe are other Universes, and each of these has its own Co-Creator Being which "painted" and "sung" (imagined/willed) it into existence.

Our little Solar system (especially earth) on the other hand, is like an elementary school in the grand scheme of things.

Venus is connected to the 4th Center in an archetypal sense, and Neptune (along with Jupiter) is connected to the 6th Center in an archetypal sense.

I agree with Chanterelle that the texts speak of Sun and Moon in the context of Yang and Yin. Because as a consciousness gets closer and closer to full enLightenment, and as the 7th Center (which corresponds to the Pituitary gland) becomes more and more active, one of the interesting processes that happens is that inner Yin and Yang within that Soul starts to blend, integrate, balance and merge together to reveal a whole that is greater than the sum of its parts. We often think of 1+1 as equaling 2. But the merged whole of Yin and Yang is more like a balanced 3.


For an alternate take, what if ‘the universe’ is just a misapprehended delusion? Personally I’m a bit curious of all of these ‘galaxies’ and any supposed edges as many space pics are cgi or edited and it’s hard to make out if they are what we are told. I see life as a dream, not something inherently ‘real’ and mind independent as many presume.

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.Well, obviously as humans we misapprehend quite a lot... but are you saying that what’s in the mind is what’s ‘real’? If so, I think that’s what they call solipsism... not buying it.

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