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kani
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posted November 06, 2020 05:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for kani     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello,

I have many symptoms of adult ADHD and I was wondering if my natal aspects can give clues about it.

I have a tight mercury uranus square and I rarely have a relaxed mind. I'm constantly thinking (I know most people are) but in high speed and it can get exhausting sometimes. The good thing is I'm never bored, my mind comes up with crazy and funny s h i t so I'm very good at entertaining myself.

What are your thoughts?
Anyone else with this aspect who experiences something similar (very fast thinking, scattered thinking, not finishing concepts because new ideas come in all the time...)

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posted November 06, 2020 05:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for nomad-monad     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That square is likely the main cause, yes, and especially if in mutable element.

I have a Sagittarius-Uranus and Pisces-Mercury square,
and I have an official ADHD diagnosis. Also ASD.

Even so I am very functional in my areas of operation, so it is currently not 'clinically active' as a disorder according to my psychiatrist.
It becomes a clinical disorder the moment it prevents you from functioning efficiently in society and you take damage because of it.

It's really a huge blessing as long as you learn how to utilize it. Like all squares.

You should begin to meditate, if you haven't already.

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posted November 06, 2020 05:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CardinalT-Square     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have those two in a "Thor's Hammer" with Jupiter, very similar experience though, I always get side-tracked, forget things, or just forget what I was doing (more than most people), have hundred's of ideas going through my mind almost all the time, sudden inspirations or moments of precognition, and anything else that would go along with those three planets. Though, I've always wondered...🤔 Is ADD/ADHD really a thing, or is it just Biology/Astrology...because I think moments like these happen to everybody to some degree, but more intense with those of us that have Mercury in aspect to Uranus.

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posted November 06, 2020 06:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for kani     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by nomad-monad:
That square is likely the main cause, yes, and especially if in mutable element.

I have a Sagittarius-Uranus and Pisces-Mercury square,
and I have an official ADHD diagnosis. Also ASD.

Even so I am very functional in my areas of operation, so it is currently not 'clinically active' as a disorder according to my psychiatrist.
It becomes a clinical disorder the moment it prevents you from functioning efficiently in society and you take damage because of it.

It's really a huge blessing as long as you learn how to utilize it. Like all squares.

You should begin to meditate, if you haven't already.


I get what you are saying. I can definitely function rather well but I think a big reason is that my job gives me very much freedom. I'm not very restricted at all.

My mercury is fixed (Aqua) with a Uranus in Sag (very early degrees, the Aqua is in late degrees).
Yes, people keep telling me to start meditating and I have a couple of times but I find it too boring. What does calm my mind is exercise actually. A 15 min youtube exercise video can do the trick

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posted November 06, 2020 06:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for kani     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by CardinalT-Square:
I have those two in a "Thor's Hammer" with Jupiter, very similar experience though, I always get side-tracked, forget things, or just forget what I was doing (more than most people), have hundred's of ideas going through my mind almost all the time, sudden inspirations or moments of precognition, and anything else that would go along with those three planets. Though, I've always wondered...🤔 Is ADD/ADHD really a thing, or is it just Biology/Astrology...because I think moments like these happen to everybody to some degree, but more intense with those of us that have Mercury in aspect to Uranus.

I think ADHD and ADD become a thing when it really does disrupt your own life and to some extent the lives of those around you. If you can deal with a scattered brain well, then there is no reason to treat it.
I really don't think everybody deals with it actually. There are a lot of people who do not think fast and don't have a thousand ideas running through their head. My boyfriend for example has very structured thinking and can't follow me oftentimes

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posted November 06, 2020 06:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for nomad-monad     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by kani:
Yes, people keep telling me to start meditating and I have a couple of times but I find it too boring. What does calm my mind is exercise actually. A 15 min youtube exercise video can do the trick

Yep physical exercise can be a form of meditation.
I assume you mean the 'still-and-quiet' version is boring.

Precisely because it is so contrary to habit (=boring) I find it is most effective for long term balance. But it's certainly a project.

It's just like running long distance: you reach a point where you've had enough (tired/bored) but when you push through that first barrier you start to really get the benefits and it becomes addictive.

When the new habit is installed you begin to be in a natural state of meditation without necessarily having to go into it formally.

That's a state of receptivity you are naturally more attuned to by virtue of the Mercury/Uranus condition. The overthinking is the effect of having taken in so much information. The natural receptivity is why thinking is hyperactive - connections everywhere, huge sets of data.

Meditation lets your mind be still and this makes the information organize itself, rather than have your ego do it.

Uranus is essentially clear complete information. When it comes in contact with Mercury, Mercury tries to make sense of it on its own terms. Mercury should just be receptive to Uranus' shipments and let them fall into place on their own - that's what meditation teaches.

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posted November 06, 2020 09:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CardinalT-Square     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by kani:
I think ADHD and ADD become a thing when it really does disrupt your own life and to some extent the lives of those around you. If you can deal with a scattered brain well, then there is no reason to treat it.

I must have gotten pretty lucky then to have these traits without them getting as bad as you describe. My brother on the other hand, used to be put on "Riddeline" but that stuff messed him up a lot, it would make him too tired and unable to really take part in anything, thankfully no permenant damage was incurred to him, eventually he grew out of it, and is now healthy and happy, even during these crazy times.

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I really don't think everybody deals with it actually. There are a lot of people who do not think fast and don't have a thousand ideas running through their head. My boyfriend for example has very structured thinking and can't follow me oftentimes

That's known as "Selective Hearing"! All of us guys have that😉😆

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posted November 06, 2020 09:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mee_chryssa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by kani:

I have a tight mercury uranus square and I rarely have a relaxed mind. I'm constantly thinking (I know most people are) but in high speed and it can get exhausting sometimes. The good thing is I'm never bored, my mind comes up with crazy and funny s h i t so I'm very good at entertaining myself.

What are your thoughts?
Anyone else with this aspect who experiences something similar (very fast thinking, scattered thinking, not finishing concepts because new ideas come in all the time...)


I have it... its a 1 degree square and thats exactly how I think and thats true... Im never bored and I have huge mental energy that I can barely control it )))) I find myself thinking so fast and talking at the same time that I dont get to see if the other person understood what I said.
I have the square with neptune too.

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posted November 06, 2020 09:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mee_chryssa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Its kinda funny most of the times... Its like Im having fun by myself.

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posted November 06, 2020 09:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GalacticCoreExplosion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Very well said Nomad-Monad, very much agree (@ your last post).

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posted November 07, 2020 04:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for kani     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by nomad-monad:
Yep physical exercise can be a form of meditation.
I assume you mean the 'still-and-quiet' version is boring.

Precisely because it is so contrary to habit (=boring) I find it is most effective for long term balance. But it's certainly a project.

It's just like running long distance: you reach a point where you've had enough (tired/bored) but when you push through that first barrier you start to really get the benefits and it becomes addictive.

When the new habit is installed you begin to be in a natural state of meditation without necessarily having to go into it formally.

That's a state of receptivity you are naturally more attuned to by virtue of the Mercury/Uranus condition. The overthinking is the effect of having taken in so much information. The natural receptivity is why thinking is hyperactive - connections everywhere, huge sets of data.

Meditation lets your mind be still and this makes the information organize itself, rather than have your ego do it.

Uranus is essentially clear complete information. When it comes in contact with Mercury, Mercury tries to make sense of it on its own terms. Mercury should just be receptive to Uranus' shipments and let them fall into place on their own - that's what meditation teaches.


good points!
I don't mind the still and quiet. I love it when it's still and quiet around me actually. What I find boring about meditation is following the instructions (when I do guided meditation via a youtube video) because they don't seem to be in tune with me most of the time if you know what I mean. And then the thoughts that keep popping back into my mind all the time. I know it's normal but my perfectionist self expects me to be mind-still immediately.
Any tips from your side what type of meditation would be good for someone like me?

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posted November 07, 2020 04:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for kani     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by CardinalT-Square:
That's known as "Selective Hearing"! All of us guys have that😉😆

yeah he definitely does have that, too
But seriously, when we have a debate about something and exchange arguments he oftentimes cannot follow straight away and I have to explain stuff that I thought don't have to be mentioned.

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posted November 07, 2020 04:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for kani     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by mee_chryssa:
I have it... its a 1 degree square and thats exactly how I think and thats true... Im never bored and I have huge mental energy that I can barely control it )))) I find myself thinking so fast and talking at the same time that I dont get to see if the other person understood what I said.
I have the square with neptune too.

What's the sign your mercury is in and your uranus?

And yeah it's like having your own personal jester in your head that makes you laugh. That's how it is with me

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posted November 07, 2020 06:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for nomad-monad     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by kani:
good points!
I don't mind the still and quiet. I love it when it's still and quiet around me actually. What I find boring about meditation is following the instructions (when I do guided meditation via a youtube video) because they don't seem to be in tune with me most of the time if you know what I mean. And then the thoughts that keep popping back into my mind all the time. I know it's normal but my perfectionist self expects me to be mind-still immediately.
Any tips from your side what type of meditation would be good for someone like me?

Ah I see. Most guided stuff on the market is crap, exactly for the reasons you mention.

Simple solution, and this is a overall pretty good life-strategy: go to the best.


2 suggestions:

In the States, or even the world, I don't think many people come close to Jon Kabat-Zinn.
He is the founder of the mindfulness-based Stress Reduction Clinic at Massachusetts Institute of Medicine.
His products are top-of-the-line guided meditation.
I used his Series 3 cd's when I started and they are exceptionally effective.
https://www.mindfulnesscds.com/pages/about-the-author
https://www.mindfulnesscds.com/collections/cds/products/series-3


Second suggestion is the Gateway Experience Program by Bob Monroe/The Monroe Institute.
7 CD's (I think) that help to increase psi-related abilities and self-awareness of deeper layers of consciousness.
The primary component of these CD's is the 'hemi-sync' tones that Monroe patented, which is basically the same as binaural beats.
Info about Monroe: http://youtu.be/-GxiUgkuPlo

It's a pretty massive and different project compared to Kabat-Zinn.
But if the aim is to approach some kind of mastery in terms of consciousness-utilization - essentially to wake you up to the depths of your inherent natural capabilities - I would begin with Kabat-Zinn and then weave in the Gateway-Program after a while.
These two are a very powerful combination.

http://www.monroeinstitute.org/search?q=Gateway+Experience

As you can see the Gateway Program is super expensive compared to Kabat-Zinn's series - but if you can use torrent-downloads you can find Gateway on sites such as piratebay.

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Originally posted by GalacticCoreExplosion:
Very well said Nomad-Monad, very much agree (@ your last post).


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posted November 07, 2020 10:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for kani     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Thank you. i will look deeper into it!
Have you been meditating for long? It seems you know a thing or two about it.

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posted November 07, 2020 11:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Librapurr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I know someone with Uranus sq. Mercury puts it in use. He counts very fast and can figure out a lot of things. He has complicated engineering job so his job keeps his brain busy. Also, he has time to figure out the other things. I don’t think he can just relax and enjoy life.

I have transit Uranus driving me crazy. It got better in the end of retrograde.
I heard Neptune and/or Uranus in 3rd can influence your learning/ attention.
I think my ADD what generally comes and goes involved with it.

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posted November 07, 2020 01:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mee_chryssa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by kani:
What's the sign your mercury is in and your uranus?

And yeah it's like having your own personal jester in your head that makes you laugh. That's how it is with me


My Mercury is in Aries and Uranus and Neptune in Capricorn.
I thought that I have so much energy because it is in Aries.
Glad that I figured it out now.

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posted November 08, 2020 03:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for rbendrats     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't have a square but I have a trine between Mercury and Uranus at 0°04’ degrees.

For me too it's difficult to concentrate or focus on one task for long.

I get distracted very easily not so much from the outside environment but from the ideas that come into my mind to check out something else on the internet.

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posted November 08, 2020 11:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GalacticCoreExplosion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Re: meditation. Again concur with Nomad-Monad--especially in relation to The Monroe Institute and the Gateway Voyage Wave set. It's pretty helpful for many (not necessarily all). I have had the Gateway Voyage Wave set on CD for many years. Also, my partner and I attended the Gateway Voyage Program at Faber, VA for our honey moon a number of years back. The Monroe Institute is the real deal, and they are as internationally well known as they are, not because of advertising but because of word of mouth from people that have gone there, use their audio recordings, etc.

I'm going to repaste something I wrote on another thread, which may be helpful to you and/or others.

"These techniques [meditation and guidance communication tips/techniques] if practiced sincerely may be quite helpful for you in that endeavor. http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum10/HTML/005200.html

If you are not practiced at deep meditation, a meditation facilitating Hemi-Sync recording might be very helpful to practice in conjunction with the techniques and tips in the above link. I really like "Higher" and "Opening the Heart", but they have a number of good ones and you can listen to various samples on one of the sites.

If you have a computer or program that can decode FLAC, you can try these links and see if it works. Hemi-Sync works best with headphones. [Apart from the Gateway set, the below are some of my favorite Hemi-Sync recordings personally, these are linked to my Google Drive--eventually these links will become inactive].

"Opening the Heart": http://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bwnd-TVC_wNMc0t1S1BEVmhxcHc/view?usp=sharing

"Higher": http://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bwnd-TVC_wNMQ21XdUh5dnNidUE/view?usp=sharing

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posted November 08, 2020 04:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for kani     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by rbendrats:
I don't have a square but I have a trine between Mercury and Uranus at 0°04’ degrees.

For me too it's difficult to concentrate or focus on one task for long.

I get distracted very easily not so much from the outside environment but from the ideas that come into my mind to check out something else on the internet.


I'm surprised to hear this from someone with a smooth merc ur aspect as a harmonious aspect shouldn't cause that many distractions

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posted November 08, 2020 04:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for kani     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Re: meditation. Again concur with Nomad-Monad--especially in relation to The Monroe Institute and the Gateway Voyage Wave set. It's pretty helpful for many (not necessarily all). I have had the Gateway Voyage Wave set on CD for many years. Also, my partner and I attended the Gateway Voyage Program at Faber, VA for our honey moon a number of years back. The Monroe Institute is the real deal, and they are as internationally well known as they are, not because of advertising but because of word of mouth from people that have gone there, use their audio recordings, etc.

I'm going to repaste something I wrote on another thread, which may be helpful to you and/or others.

"These techniques [meditation and guidance communication tips/techniques] if practiced sincerely may be quite helpful for you in that endeavor. http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum10/HTML/005200.html

If you are not practiced at deep meditation, a meditation facilitating Hemi-Sync recording might be very helpful to practice in conjunction with the techniques and tips in the above link. I really like "Higher" and "Opening the Heart", but they have a number of good ones and you can listen to various samples on one of the sites.

If you have a computer or program that can decode FLAC, you can try these links and see if it works. Hemi-Sync works best with headphones. [Apart from the Gateway set, the below are some of my favorite Hemi-Sync recordings personally, these are linked to my Google Drive--eventually these links will become inactive].

"Opening the Heart": http://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bwnd-TVC_wNMc0t1S1BEVmhxcHc/view?usp=sharing

"Higher": http://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bwnd-TVC_wNMQ21XdUh5dnNidUE/view?usp=sharing


Thank you very much for this!
Will definitely look into it

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posted November 08, 2020 06:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GalacticCoreExplosion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You're very welcome Kani. Btw, if you don't already know, FLAC is a type of audio, pseudo compression technology that reduces the amount of data that a recording takes up, but completely preserves the full sonic integrity of the recording. Still sounds like CD quality.

Not really important for most music, but apparently more intense compression can affect Hemi-Sync stuff a bit negatively (reduce it's effectiveness), or at least Skip Atwater explained while we were there.

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posted November 09, 2020 08:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for kani     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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You're very welcome Kani. Btw, if you don't already know, FLAC is a type of audio, pseudo compression technology that reduces the amount of data that a recording takes up, but completely preserves the full sonic integrity of the recording. Still sounds like CD quality.

Not really important for most music, but apparently more intense compression can affect Hemi-Sync stuff a bit negatively (reduce it's effectiveness), or at least Skip Atwater explained while we were there.


I actually did the "Opening the heart" meditation yesterday and it was something else! I did the whole 41min because I instantly felt an effect; that is something I never did before, as I usually lose patience after 15-20mins or so. The person who put that audio together, especially with the sound effects, knew what they were doing.
The effectiveness was felt for sure, despite the compression.
I will try the other one today.
Thanks again

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posted November 09, 2020 02:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GalacticCoreExplosion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Glad to hear that you enjoyed and/or got something worthwhile out of it. There are many companies and individuals that put out binaural beat frequency pattern audio stuff out there. It's just that The Monroe Institute has been a group that has been experimenting with and refining it continuously for longer than any other group.

Oh, I meant that's the beauty of FLAC format, it reduces the data taken up by a file, without actually distorting/removing the information at all. It's a really cool format.

Someone explained it once like, say you're looking at a code of aaaabbgggzz, rather than actually cutting pieces out of that (like typical compression does), it will re-encode it like, a4b2g3z2. It's a kind of smart encoding/decoding.

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posted November 09, 2020 02:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mee_chryssa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I asked my therapist today about ADHD and she said that if this wasn't diagnosed being a child, it wouldn't be put as a diagnose to an adult. That this mental disorder is not a disorder anymore, but a psychomotor agitation that will cease in time if the child is taught well. The reason is not a mental disorder anymore is that it doesn't make a person dysfunctional, if the parents take good care.

She asked me if I had trouble staying still as a child, concentrate at something for a period of time - like drawing a picture, if I couldn't learn a skill, and I didn't have this problems, I actually was good at learning something. I think this square gives some motivation, some push to mental activities. Since Uranus is eratic and a planet of change.

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