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Topic: Moon/Pluto, are you blind in love?
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GalacticCoreExplosion Knowflake Posts: 2040 From: Somewhere Registered: Sep 2019
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posted November 09, 2020 02:39 PM
Yep, that's because he and the image of same, is now completely intertwined with her egoic self image and core. Unconsciously there is no separation/difference. In a sense, he may as well be an extension of her on a deep, unconscious level. Intellectually I'm sure she recognizes that he is a different person/being with his own self will and unique self awareness. But underneath that is a strong, overwhelming feeling and belief of, "you are MINE. You are ME". There is some part of him that is attracted to that possession (and I use that term in both senses) dynamic, otherwise he would have left her before it became that intense and complete. IP: Logged |
GalacticCoreExplosion Knowflake Posts: 2040 From: Somewhere Registered: Sep 2019
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posted November 09, 2020 04:38 PM
For Charlie: http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum25/HTML/005631.html IP: Logged |
Librapurr Knowflake Posts: 729 From: Registered: Jul 2019
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posted November 10, 2020 01:05 PM
@GalacticCore, what do you think if a fixed sign is aspected by Uranus about 5 degrees. Would it be more Uranian like than attachment based?IP: Logged |
GalacticCoreExplosion Knowflake Posts: 2040 From: Somewhere Registered: Sep 2019
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posted November 10, 2020 01:16 PM
Could very well be. Look for deeper, more repeating patterns. You can almost always find repeating, underlying, patterns in charts. Generally use the rule of 3. If you see at least 3 similar patterns, then that theme will be particularly highlighted. Gotta go, see my recent thread in this section. IP: Logged |
Librapurr Knowflake Posts: 729 From: Registered: Jul 2019
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posted November 10, 2020 02:34 PM
GalacticCore,Thanks. I will.IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 135503 From: Your Friendly Neighborhood Juris Doctorate. Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 20, 2020 12:11 PM
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Belage Knowflake Posts: 3636 From: USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 20, 2020 03:58 PM
Pluto does not confer blindness in love. That is the province of Neptune.Pluto confers intensity, obsession, love/hate in love. IP: Logged |
GalacticCoreExplosion Knowflake Posts: 2040 From: Somewhere Registered: Sep 2019
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posted November 21, 2020 06:17 PM
Yes, and as pointed out, often when a person become obsessed with another person, their perception towards them becomes distorted i.e. "blind". IP: Logged |
hearttreasure Knowflake Posts: 1157 From: Registered: Jan 2015
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posted November 28, 2020 06:18 PM
Hey, back again, been busy for awhile with new activity lately..The man is completely, I mean COMPLETELY avoidant and ignoring to his family now. Still keeping the emotional torture with SILENCE and pending a lot of family requests which one of them about the health protocols in his wedding party (which silently he prepares the order but let others feel anxious and angry first by holding some information/not telling the truth). I can't believe how this behavior of the man is completely out of nowhere, since he met the woman, do this kind of nasty emotional torturing things but still maintain a controlled emotions to the outside. I think now I understand a little bit why Capricorn Moon is called as detriment moon. I used to a little bit amazed to their work ethic, but seeing how they can be this super stubborn and colder, not even moved by sympathy and empathy, I am glad not marrying one? lol just kidding. One of his sister, a Capricorn moon too, has also completely avoidant and ignoring of him because she can't accept his doing. They look like having a cold war with cynical and disgusted look. Maybe he holds a very long grudge to his family since he doesn't a type to easily open up or talk about anything, used to spacing out when family face problems. But, the weird part is, he doesn't even want to moving out from his parents house! Even he wants to live closer to them after the marriage! Really I don't get it. One thing that the Leo sun (man) and the Aries sun (woman) has in common is: SUN SQUARE SATURN, where the woman is in exact degree and the man is closer. The Leo sun has a lot of square and opposition in his natal chart which is seen how heavy his energy in photos: not a lot of smile and not that often updating the social media, while the Aries sun, has lots of trine and sextile which also have a look like having/living in her own world of LA La land in photos: lots of smile and must be a photogenic to see (following crowds), often updating and live in social media. Maybe they both are perfect for each other, complete each other in a mysterious way, although I doubt it. But, who knows.. Been surrounding with Moon/Pluto, and now they are proofed having a tendency to very very fixated to their choice of partner until the journey telling them: they should listen more, but still they will never admit their wrong choice of partner until it will show from the less respect for the partner and the relationship is suffering but they have a hard time to let go.. IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 135503 From: Your Friendly Neighborhood Juris Doctorate. Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 06, 2020 12:21 AM
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vansio Knowflake Posts: 1490 From: the outskirts of Delphi Registered: Dec 2017
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posted December 06, 2020 03:40 AM
Hey heart treasure, I like the way you write. I have a 8th House Capricorn Moon sextile my 5th House Pluto, no harsh aspects. Am not blind in love, like Charlie (Teasel and Belage) said, wide awake. And others add, Pluto does not generate “blindness”, must be something else.However, sounds like the guy in question and his woman made an “arrangement”. somehow you and people around him taking it personally. maybe his natal moon-pluto square means “women in his life (gf, sister, mother, etc) try to control him”. What’s your relation to him? IP: Logged |
Hikaru29 Knowflake Posts: 2952 From: Asia Registered: Nov 2018
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posted December 06, 2020 04:15 AM
^ Trine and Sextile are harmonious aspects so usually the positives traits are displayed. Can’t say the same for conjunct/square/opposite though. These people easily get stuck in complex and unhealthy relationships. IP: Logged |
GalacticCoreExplosion Knowflake Posts: 2040 From: Somewhere Registered: Sep 2019
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posted December 06, 2020 10:47 AM
quote: Originally posted by Hikaru29: ^ Trine and Sextile are harmonious aspects so usually the positives traits are displayed. Can’t say the same for conjunct/square/opposite though. These people easily get stuck in complex and unhealthy relationships.
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hearttreasure Knowflake Posts: 1157 From: Registered: Jan 2015
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posted December 09, 2020 05:47 AM
quote: Originally posted by vansio: Hey heart treasure, I like the way you write. I have a 8th House Capricorn Moon sextile my 5th House Pluto, no harsh aspects. Am not blind in love, like Charlie (Teasel and Belage) said, wide awake. And others add, Pluto does not generate “blindness”, must be something else.However, sounds like the guy in question and his woman made an “arrangement”. somehow you and people around him taking it personally. maybe his natal moon-pluto square means “women in his life (gf, sister, mother, etc) try to control him”. What’s your relation to him?
Hey, thanks. I'm one of his sister, the Moon conjunct Jupiter in 4th house, trine ASC/Saturn/Uranus, sextile Mercury.  I have just learned in deep with Juno and curious about his Juno and hers, so this is what I've got: - His Juno is in Aries, and it's in exact conjunction with her Sun. This guy is a passive when approaching woman (cancer mars), so I think he is now attracting aggressive and assertive woman which explains why she insists the marriage and refuses the request of his parents to leave him. - Her Juno is in Scorpio, nothing significant to his natal. Strong rumor says she was involved, as another woman, in someone's relationship. She denies it to him but the Mother asks him to talk with the source and the source says it was a true story, they witness she fights in a church with the woman whose man got stealed for a moment. Not long after that, she got involved with other man but end up with very intense situation involving family and a couple of days her family set up a meeting to him because they know his family background. He gets home very angry and asks family to stop looking for a story about her because he claims he knows her 100% and she is nothing like other says, the Mother shocks and says, "you just met her for 3 months, how can you say you know her 100% like you know all of her life in 3 months? I don't hear any good news about her outside, how can I not worry?" He locks his room and gives silent treatment to the whole family for days. She also always cries when someone is disagreeing with her or when in some circumstances that doesn't actually require tears. I agree with my Dad that we are seeing the woman is quite emotionally manipulative, but he can't see that at all. He says that she will always obey him but the fact is, we have seen, he is the one who got controlled by her but he feels he serves her (virgo venus). So..., is there a possibility that Juno conjunction Sun causes the blindness? IP: Logged |
Electro DGX Moderator Posts: 2183 From: Mars Registered: Jul 2015
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posted December 10, 2020 04:06 PM
I have Moon in the 8th house opposite Pluto exact. I am not blind in love; in fact, I actually struggle to let love in. I put up too many walls and keep people at bay to avoid getting hurt and/or be vulnerable. I have been used by people before and those people have been written out of my life. Lately I have been doing a lot of self-work in order to bring my walls down and let other people in. IP: Logged |
hearttreasure Knowflake Posts: 1157 From: Registered: Jan 2015
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posted December 14, 2020 01:49 AM
This is actually a very interesting part:My other sister is a Moon conjunct Pluto, aaaand, once in a relationship with someone, the more people say she needs to break up with the man, the more obsessed she is with her choice and doesn't listen to other people. She ends up running away marrying the Taurus man because the man isn't a gentleman enough to face our parents. A more than 10 years later, although she doesn't want to admit it, she is the one who is very very strong and emotional saying to us to listen what parents/families say about the choice of our partner. People who are closest to you, trusted and who wants the best for you. Well.... I think she will not say it if she doesn't experience something about it, isn't it? It's true that Moon/Pluto has some trust issues, puts a wall, has small circle, and unconsciously it makes them only believe in their own eyes, their own judgements, their own observations, they have a hard time receiving other information that they consider opposing what they believe in as their feeling is very STRONG and INTENSE. So when their FEELINGs decide, well.. how strong is the brain vs feeling? My husband's ex is also a Moon/Pluto conjunction in Scorpio, so a double dose.. When I discovered he cheated on me and got back to her secretly behind my back, she insisted he was a GOOD KIND man in her eyes and she wanted him back because how royal he was with her and they would get married. She even told me that I was stealing him from her, while I didn't even know he was still in contact with his ex and he admitted that he was single for months. But at that time, I didn't fight for him, because for me, a cheater isn't in my list of a good man. For 3-4 years, she still didn't want to lose him because he wasn't a cheater in her eyes and I got the blamed, while he kept coming back at my door begging. What a s*** drama I was dealing with back at the time..
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