posted November 25, 2020 11:00 PM            

Think of the 1993 OJ Simpsons Trial Marcia Clark (Virgo) vs. F.Lee Bailey (Gemini).

I think Marcia was a little to narrow minded which allowed F.Lee Bailey and OJ's legal team to find sleazy way's to get OJ off.

As Linda goodman stated in her book about the Virgo Boss they can see "trees clearly and completely miss the forest".

You can defeat a virgo if they become narow-minded and selfish.

Only seeing and caring from there perspective which makes them unable to see the bigger picture.

You can defeat a gemini if they've been winning the last couple arguments then they let there ego get to there head.

Therefore if you play on these behaviours and allow a Gemini to get "Victory Disease" or you allow a Virgo to become "caged in there thinking" you can defeat both signs with ease.

Now to anyone reading that...

Please do not do that to any of the Gemini and Virgos on this site. I essentially gave out the "secret to the atomic bomb"...at least i'm being honest thought.

If its a "Typical American Lawyer" who will include sleazy and undermining tactics to win even delay or interfere with the legal process I say Gemini is the better lawyer.

Not because of facts or arguments just by finding loopholes.

True story, when I was younger I use to get alot of speeding tickets (Aries Moon).

I now live in a downtown core....so no more driving for me unless I really have to...everything I need is within a 5 min walk for me.

Anyway there was one officer who stoped me and I found out he had a facebook (very stupid of him).

I found out when he was going on vacation since he said it on his facebook and I moved my traffic court date to when he whouldn't be in town due to "medical reasons".

I'd also go a few weeks before the trial and try to talk to a prosecutor before hand.

But...if a Gemini no longer has the opertunity to find any more loopholes or has exhausted all of then, it's gameover for the gemini (i.e Trump).

Overall law whould be a better fit as a career for a Virgo then a Gemini.

However when faced against a Gemini the Virgo will lose, the Virgo will expect a long slugfest...

The Gemini already worked out a seperate plea bargin without the Virgo knowing or will play some dirty tricks.

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Originally posted by teasel:
I have a Gemini moon, and I can lose interest easily. I don’t like arguing, but depending on the subject matter, or how personal it is, I can argue you into the ground. I just don’t want to.

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Its just not worth it anymore, people are crazy!! Better just to walk away!!

posted November 26, 2020 02:01 AM            

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Originally posted by MoonMystic:
Based on the ones I've been friends with, which I've had a lot of both! My bet would have to go on the Virgos.
I visited a site that lists many careers for signs. Aries make great attorneys. Oh yes they love arguments. Ummm, I was thinking the cusp of Libra (judgment) is nxt to Virgo. My bet is Virgo. Also Attorney is listed (lady justice of course) for a career for Libra. so decan Virgo nearest ♎ definitely.

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I don't love them, but when I've absolutely had to fight, I did, and I would get so emotional that it took a while to let it go. Some things I still haven't let go.

posted November 26, 2020 02:03 AM            

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Originally posted by DualGemV2:

Its just not worth it anymore, people are crazy!! Better just to walk away!!

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posted November 26, 2020 03:53 AM            

wow, I have a friend that has everythink in virgo and guys trippin balls smts,

eavening i couldnt roll a on his room dresk, and in the morning he got me on the dinningroom desk (supposetly i should put A4 paper underneath befor i start), n i was the one rollin!

I said to him he had to chill n revise his concepsts, telling him as a friend nd left the house, I was there to help him out with his garden!

duds has everything in virgo been trippin balls on shrooms xD

posted November 28, 2020 01:38 PM            

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Originally posted by teasel:
I don't love them, but when I've absolutely had to fight, I did, and I would get so emotional that it took a while to let it go. Some things I still haven't let go.

I used to love research, and there are times when I can pick a hole in arguments, but I would only want to be able to do that, if it was for someone who wasn't guilty of something. I understand the need for defense attorneys, but I wouldn't make a good one. I'd also worry about prosecuting the wrong person, if I were put in that position. I have trouble picking a paint colour, I don't want the life of someone else in my hands. I like discussions, I like learning something.

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-This thanksgiving I had to sit at the table and watch two geminis (they are brother and sister), (my boyfriend and his sister),pick their poor ARIES brother apart >.< (he was just laughing at their intentions of telling him what to do in his life because they think they are always right)!! But man are geminis judgmental and quick/sharp with their mouths, THEY didn't even let little aries get a word in (he just shrugged and shook his head because at the end of the day hes not going to do what they tell him to)!!!! I was at the other end of the table just quietly observing how these gemini's minds/mouths work, SUDDENLY, their VIRGO cousin walked into the room and both gemini's attacked him for standing up for the little aries, BUT LET ME TELL YOU, 2 GEMS VS 1 VIRGO, THEY WENT AT IT FOR 2 HOURS STRAIGHT LOL VIRGO DID NOT SHY AWAY HE WAS LAYING DOWN FACTS AND WAS VERY PERSISTENT WHICH I FELT, THIS TACTIC WASNT LETTING THE GEMINIS THINK OUTSIDE THE BOX, HE HAD THEM CLOSED IN ON WHAT THE SOURCE OF THE PROBLEM WAS AND GEMINIS WHERE MORE OF THE (BUT WHAT IF'S) I could tell they where running out of words and ways to get to the persistent Virgo, because they had no facts to back them up, I could see them loosing interest in the argument little by little, AT THE END both gems just looked at each other laughed and said "haha he (virgo) will never understand where we're coming from, this is pointless, ANYWAYSSSSS whos going black friday shopping", VIRGO just walked away and said "youre both ridiculous" LMAO!

me and aries where just laughing on the sideline the whole time!!

posted November 28, 2020 01:57 PM            

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Originally posted by athenegoddess:
Gemini is more logical than Virgo and can persuade a jury much better.

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posted November 28, 2020 02:03 PM            

Keep in mind there are other placements that come into play.

As a result of my Cancer mars I never rush into an argument unless I strategized first then decided if its worth it to get involved or not.

I swear I get a good laught of the Global Unity 2.0 thread..some of the things people say there are "so out to lunch", laught but don't proceed if its not worth it to get involved.

The Smart Geminis are the quiet ones that think first act later. The less intelligible Geminis are the ones that shoot there mouths first then think.

If I was there during your "thanksgiving" I whould have most likely just oberseved full knowing what the Virgo and the other two Gem's are capable of and stay out of the radar and kept you out of the radar as well.

I whould have interrupted and said we have go pick up a Turkey then leave like hell.

Then let the 2 Gem and Virgo slaughter each other over the argument..unless its worth it don't get involved.

posted November 28, 2020 02:11 PM            

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Originally posted by Astrogirlie:
-This thanksgiving I had to sit at the table and watch two geminis (they are brother and sister), (my boyfriend and his sister),pick their poor ARIES brother apart >.< (he was just laughing at their intentions of telling him what to do in his life because they think they are always right)!! But man are geminis judgmental and quick/sharp with their mouths, THEY didn't even let little aries get a word in (he just shrugged and shook his head because at the end of the day hes not going to do what they tell him to)!!!! I was at the other end of the table just quietly observing how these gemini's minds/mouths work, SUDDENLY, their VIRGO cousin walked into the room and both gemini's attacked him for standing up for the little aries, BUT LET ME TELL YOU, 2 GEMS VS 1 VIRGO, THEY WENT AT IT FOR 2 HOURS STRIAGHT LOL VIRGO DID NOT SHY AWAY HE WAS LAYING DOWN FACTS AND WAS VERY PERSISTENT WHICH I FELT, THIS TACTIC WASNT LETTING THE GEMINIS THINK OUTSIDE THE BOX, HE HAD THEM CLOSED IN ON WHAT THE SOURCE OF THE PROBLEM WAS AND GEMINIS WHERE MORE OF THE (BUT WHAT IF'S) I could tell they where running out of words and ways to get to the persistent Virgo, because they had no facts to back them up, I could see them loosing interested in the argument little by little, AT THE END both gems just looked at each other laughed and said "haha he9virgo) will never understand where we're coming from, this is pointless, ANYWAYSSSSS whos going black friday shopping", VIRGO just walked away and said "youre both ridiculous" LMAO!

me and aries where just laughing on the sideline the whole time!!

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I loved that story.

posted November 28, 2020 02:22 PM            

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Originally posted by MoonMystic:
I loved that story.

It popped in my mind after you write that very good experience that fell into this thread so well. Virgos are grounded (Earth) Gemini iis Air and more able to bounce about on topics (I'm guilty with Air too) The grounded Mercury energy can stay the course AND 6th house, they are by nature solid to argue, no waivering. Frustrating in my day to ever argue with a Virgo. Geminis forget the battle and move on. Virgo will sit in that groove until they decide it's done.

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I'm a 5th house Gemini sun with a Mercury Conjunction and Jupiter Aquarius Trine.

So I think I can outmanuever someone in an argument...of course I'd never get into an argument if I see not worth arguing .

I don't think Virgos are great at arguing I just think there irritating to argue with.

If you ever go to the grocery store and there's someone holding up the line arguing over 5 cents without a care in the world for the other customers in the line it whould be most likely a virgo!!.

My former Virgo boss was like that, guess what happends..she has no staff anymore and can't keep anyone working for her.

In her mind she can't understand why..she's so selfish and narrowinded not to think its her thats the problem.

Now there trying to replace her and she still can't accept anything wrong...thats what I was getting at when I said you can defeat a virgo if there the selfish type they won't accept any other facts other then there own even if there so in the wrong.

Earth signs can be persistent to defend and adhere to old ideas and old facts too.

I also knew a Capircorn from some backwoods rural town that couldn't accept women being equal.

As soon as he steps outside of that
hicktown with a mindset like that, he will not last long!! No matter how much he will defend that belief.

A lot is riding on what type of Gemini or Virgo your dealing with.

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posted November 29, 2020 01:33 PM            

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Originally posted by Solar_Leo_Queen:
Virgo cause virgo doesn't argue without tangible facts or evidence to prove their point. Also they try very hard to be as precise as possible and can make connections very easily. I find Geminis to be all over the place and sometimes not make sense because they tend to get distracted very easily. They do know a lot of different things but usually on a surface-level. Their minds honestly run very very fast, almost at the speed of light. Very witty and humorous. I just don't think they have the patience or concentration to really back up their arguments.

This is speaking from experience. My mom has gemini mercury square my virgo mercury. I've proven her wrong many times because she barely does her research on things. Her mars in aries just blows up when she can't prove me wrong anymore. But I do have mercury square pluto and mars in libra so idk if that is what helps it more.

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Where's her Mercury at? I'm willing to bet she has an poorly placed, unaspected or badly placed Mercury.

Those type of Gem's will not last against long against a Virgo, I've encountered some myself and I think there flakes.

But if its a Gemini sun with a well placed mercury and even a combust there more then equipped to take on a Virgo, Ami Anne
has a combust with a Mercury conjuct sun.

A Virgo vs. Gemini who both have bad mercuries = Virgo win.

A Gemini vs. Virgo, with a Gemini with great mercury aspectes = Gemini win.

A Gemini and Virgo, both with well aspected mercuries = draw.

Also if its a male Virgo or female Virgo vs a Gemini female or Gemini male.

Generally the female version is a soft version of that sign. The male version of any sign will dominate 7/10 times.

Most of my debates were with female virgos, so I'm biased.

I've never gotten into a debate with a male virgo for the exception of once and that guy was a weirder, crepier, stranger version of Michal Jackson (Virgo sun).

I was so happy to get away from that guy, lol.

posted November 29, 2020 09:21 PM            

Venus Conjunct Moon in Gemini 2nd House.

posted November 29, 2020 09:50 PM            

last word winning? being right winning? making better points winning? having people agree with you (even though ad populum is a logical fallacy) winning? other person changing their mind (because virgo has a high chance of leo placements and gemini has a high chance of taurus placements and good luck with that **** then)?

would all depend on the subject and the rest of the chart, same with the lawyer thing, lot of factors have to consider houses and angles and so on

just going based on sun sign gives you **** all

mercury is both exalted in and ruler of virgo though, so based on that virgo is better suited for the expression of mercurial energy than gemini

that also comes down to chart still too because exaltations don't necessarily give you the best case scenario, just like debilitations aren't necessarily awful

it's just like a comfort thing anyway, this planet symbolizes x so it's expressed to its fullest in y but like... who gives a **** kind of because in reality things can work a bit different

the flipside being mercury in pisces for example can be an indicator of creativity which can have its own advantages, the sign's just not reflective of the symbolism of the planet itself

posted November 30, 2020 05:37 AM            

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Originally posted by Somna7H:
Getting Physical can give me mental pleasure if I can Win. I see no use of Arguing. Because different people have different opinions.I can not change anyone. So I try to avoid Arguing if I see it's no use...

Venus Conjunct Moon in Gemini 2nd House.

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Yet there are some stupid selfish people argue to show off that they are great. I already met two of them here in forum too.

posted November 30, 2020 10:28 PM            

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Originally posted by DualGemV2:
Where's her Mercury at? I'm willing to bet she has an poorly placed, unaspected or badly placed Mercury.

Those type of Gem's will not last against long against a Virgo, I've encountered some myself and I think there flakes.

But if its a Gemini sun with a well placed mercury and even a combust there more then equipped to take on a Virgo, Ami Anne
has a combust with a Mercury conjuct sun.

A Virgo vs. Gemini who both have bad mercuries = Virgo win.

A Gemini vs. Virgo, with a Gemini with great mercury aspectes = Gemini win.

A Gemini and Virgo, both with well aspected mercuries = draw.

Also if its a male Virgo or female Virgo vs a Gemini female or Gemini male.

Generally the female version is a soft version of that sign. The male version of any sign will dominate 7/10 times.

Most of my debates were with female virgos, so I'm biased.

I've never gotten into a debate with a male virgo for the exception of once and that guy was a weirder, crepier, stranger version of Michal Jackson (Virgo sun).

I was so happy to get away from that guy, lol.

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My mom's mercury is neither poorly-placed nor well-placed. Her Mercury in Gemini is in the 4th house trine Uranus. But that's the only real aspect it makes and it's quite loose, 8 degrees. The other one astro.com is showing me is her Mars in Aries square her Mercury but at 10 degrees. I doubt these aspects can be really felt. But she does tend to think impulsively and never stops to think if what she says even makes sense.

The one thing I admire about my mom and most Geminis is their passion for learning. They never stop. My mom is 45 years old yet you would never know because she knows technology very well and she has continued to go to school and educate herself for most of her life. So even if she's not great at arguing with me, she knows more than most people that they probably would not think she'd ever lose an argument.

posted December 11, 2020 01:40 PM            

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Originally posted by Astrogirlie:
they're both ruled by mercury...
question is, who do you guys think would win in an argument? who would make the better LAWYER?

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Virgos that I know of are SLOW talkers, geminis on the other hand are opposite, way too fast , sometimes we dont manage to get our point because we say so much. You need these two to work in team.

posted December 11, 2020 02:28 PM            

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Originally posted by Hemilla:
Virgos that I know of are SLOW talkers, geminis on the other hand are opposite, way too fast , sometimes we dont manage to get our point because we say so much. You need these two to work in team.

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i'm a slow talker, never heard someone call that a virgo trait before though, but that's funny (i have a virgo sun in tropical, but it's prominent in my vedic as well lagna/venus/ketu)

i think as i speak generally which is part of that, people find my voice and the way i speak soothing though so it works out

whether or not i'm saying anything intelligent though is something else....