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Brenda_S
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posted December 09, 2020 08:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Brenda_S     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm curious to hear your guys's 'type' and how you think it reflects in your chart?

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posted December 11, 2020 04:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SoulOfABird     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am an INFP and I guess I can attribute that to my Pisces stellium and 12th house stellium. However, Im not sure where my Aquarius placements come into play in my type.
Im Pisces/Aqua moon in the 12th house

I know a guy with my placements inverse, Aquarius sun Pisces moon in the 5th house, he's an ENFP. So like mine but an extravert.
My guy is an ENFJ and he is a Sag sun Pisces moon in the 6th house

My sister is INFJ and she is a Gemini Cancer moon! Cancer dominant

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posted December 11, 2020 05:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Brenda_S     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Have you ever hesitated whether you're actually an INFP?

In the past I always figured, or maybe simple wanted lol to be either an INTJ or INTP. I was certain I was an INTJ for a really long time.

I'm not into MBTI for a while now, and given that I feel way more comfortable with myself I took the test again without overthinking it. And it resulted in INFP.

However, I've been doubting it. I feel very strongly INFP and the traits match me well. However, I don't feel as 'emotional' as they're made out to be. Yes I can 'become' emotional real quick. But as a default I think I'm a thinker lol. And I'm curious if that doesn't clash this type.

I know there are the functions involved and all... But still, with the results when I look at other INFP's I feel they're 'feelers' to a way stronger extent. Generally math/solving problems isn't their forte which is something I think I'm pretty good at and actually like. And although I also love the arts like an INFP would, there's this other 'rougher' side to me which makes me unsure of it.

Maybe that's why I figured I'm an INTJ.

So yeah guess I'm curious if you ever felt like a different type other than an INFP.

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posted December 11, 2020 06:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dumuzi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i test as an enfp (occasionally infp or enfj but always xnfx) but i'm not personally into mbti so i can't weigh in on it chart wise

have a very close intj friend into both who may know more than me but he uses vedic so it may be nakshatra based

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posted December 11, 2020 09:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I’m right on the border of ENFP and INFP. Used to test as “E” slightly more, now I test as”I” more. Aries/Gemini/Scorpio ascendant with Uranus. Mars in Pisces.

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posted December 11, 2020 04:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sauerkraut     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i havent been into mbti for awhile either. i claimed to be intp for a long time and probably still do. i thought my type had changed because i began understanding feelings better and didnt really resonate with the people in the intp groups anymore. plus change is always a variable right? i joined a bunch of other mbti groups to see if i resonated with them - mainly infj, entp and infp. i found out i couldnt relate for the most part and intp still resonated the most. im sure a lot of people are mistyped so those groups might not be the best for data. also i dont think its that clear cut - intps can be into art and infps can be into math.

off the bat, you seem more intp than intj (or infp) because you are open to options - in an analytical/logical way. the cognitive stacks are so different too. i think looking at the cognitive function stack of each type is probably helpful in figuring out which type is a better fit. our functional strengths probably dont change that much even if we become more balanced with our inferior functions. i take feelings into consideration so much more now when i make decisions but they are still filtered through logic and thinking. generally when someone meets me irl and i am not in reserved mode, they will see the Ne and perhaps an inferior Fe. i still naturally emote like a child no matter how deeply i feel or think. my Ti is usually not shown unless someone really knows me or in a post like this.. and for a large part, it is still pretty introverted.

i think mbti works because its simpler and more tangible than a natal chart. its been quite useful in helping me understand others and myself but i find it a bit limiting. i can definitely see where in my chart it correlates to intp. we are way more complicated and a natal chart seems to tell those intricacies better.

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posted December 11, 2020 07:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for skynote     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Brenda_S:
I'm curious to hear your guys's 'type' and how you think it reflects in your chart?

Man, I used to be obsessed with MBTI, I'd taken so many quizzes those days.

Pisces SUN/Cap MOON/Gemini RISING. I usually get INTJ when I take Myers-Briggs tests, though I suspect I'm INTP.

Pisces are generally introverted, and from what I understand Gemini rising can manifest where, if they've not mega talkative, their mind is analytical/zipping with ideas, so I think that accounts for the Introverted.

I think my Pisces placements (I have more personal placements in this sign) and my 9H placements explain why I prefer abstract over concrete (So iNuitive), but my Capricorn/Aqua and Gemini placements can account for the more 'cerebral' or structured side of myself (Thinking).

Judging/Perceiving is usually where I get more conflicted... I think any of my chart placements make sense for either category, but I'd be curious what most people's MBTI types are on here!

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posted December 16, 2020 06:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SoulOfABird     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Brenda_S:
Have you ever hesitated whether you're actually an INFP?

In the past I always figured, or maybe simple wanted lol to be either an INTJ or INTP. I was certain I was an INTJ for a really long time.

I'm not into MBTI for a while now, and given that I feel way more comfortable with myself I took the test again without overthinking it. And it resulted in INFP.

However, I've been doubting it. I feel very strongly INFP and the traits match me well. However, I don't feel as 'emotional' as they're made out to be. Yes I can 'become' emotional real quick. But as a default I think I'm a thinker lol. And I'm curious if that doesn't clash this type.

I know there are the functions involved and all... But still, with the results when I look at other INFP's I feel they're 'feelers' to a way stronger extent. Generally math/solving problems isn't their forte which is something I think I'm pretty good at and actually like. And although I also love the arts like an INFP would, there's this other 'rougher' side to me which makes me unsure of it.

Maybe that's why I figured I'm an INTJ.

So yeah guess I'm curious if you ever felt like a different type other than an INFP.


I have ocd so I am always a doubter with an identity crisis lol.

But I do feel that MBTI is tricky in that way because if you are somewhere in the middle with a function you can cross over to the next one.

For me, it's hard to say. I feel pretty INFP. I just never understood exactly what people mean by the thinking vs feeling function, because I though thoughts led to feelings? lol Idk but it's like if you think about something it can make you cry, so to me everyone has both functions. At least I would think. I dont think not one person is completely a thinker or completely a feeler. But I guess you can use one function more than the other?

The reason why I believe feeler may match me better is because I take action and make decisions based on my mood or how Im feeling. I don't care about logic and analyzing things. I pretty much operate in the world not based on logic.

Im horrible at math lol I have been since I was little! I struggled with it and needed a tutor just to pass it. But I don't believe that all INFPs are bad at math!

With that being said, I also don't think that INFP's are "crybabies" if that possibly is what you are imagining, because I dont feel like INFPs necessarily cry at the drop of a hat type of emotional. Or any F type doesn't have to necessarily. At least that's what I believe! I could be totally wrong though hahaha

But what do you really feel suits you? Forgetting about what others may say or comparing yourself to others, do you feel you can confidently call yourself an INFP?


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posted December 16, 2020 03:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ESSSSSC     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
MBTI is nonsense, Socionics is actually reality-reflective cognitive typology.

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posted December 16, 2020 06:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Brenda_S:
Have you ever hesitated whether you're actually an INFP?

In the past I always figured, or maybe simple wanted lol to be either an INTJ or INTP. I was certain I was an INTJ for a really long time.

I'm not into MBTI for a while now, and given that I feel way more comfortable with myself I took the test again without overthinking it. And it resulted in INFP.

However, I've been doubting it. I feel very strongly INFP and the traits match me well. However, I don't feel as 'emotional' as they're made out to be. Yes I can 'become' emotional real quick. But as a default I think I'm a thinker lol. And I'm curious if that doesn't clash this type.

I know there are the functions involved and all... But still, with the results when I look at other INFP's I feel they're 'feelers' to a way stronger extent. Generally math/solving problems isn't their forte which is something I think I'm pretty good at and actually like. And although I also love the arts like an INFP would, there's this other 'rougher' side to me which makes me unsure of it.

Maybe that's why I figured I'm an INTJ.

So yeah guess I'm curious if you ever felt like a different type other than an INFP.


I’m a thinker, and am also emotional. I will tell myself not to be silly, I’ll do everything to not cry, and that just makes it worse. I cry when I argue, and my INFP sister used to mock me for that, at times. It’s upsetting, so I will cry and yell at the same time (if yelling is involved).

I once as an INFJ, and I think a T came up just once, but otherwise it’s ENFP or INFP. Right on the border.

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posted December 16, 2020 06:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dumuzi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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MBTI is nonsense, Socionics is actually reality-reflective cognitive typology.

i test the same in both enfp enfj or infp always xnfx they must have some **** in common

don't care regardless astrology is autistic enough for me without adding in that ****

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posted December 16, 2020 07:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sauerkraut     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
each type at stressed levels goes to the shadow side. i mean a very stressed intp yell-cries and becomes irrational. extraverted feeling is at the bottom of the stack so it makes sense. when triggered, it will come out to play in an immature way because it is the weakest/least prioritized cognitive function.

everyone has thoughts and feelings, its how theyre processed.. or not processed. how theyre expressed or not expressed. its not just simple I vs. E, N vs. S, T vs. F or P vs. J. the tests are preliminary so i dont care too much for them. imo its more effective to understand the cognitive stacks of each type and how each behaves during prime, normal and stressed situations. like astrological signs/aspects, each type can operate in a healthy or unhealthy manner.

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don't care regardless astrology is autistic enough for me without adding in that ****

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posted December 16, 2020 09:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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each type at stressed levels goes to the shadow side. i mean a very stressed intp yell-cries and becomes irrational. extraverted feeling is at the bottom of the stack so it makes sense. when triggered, it will come out to play in an immature way because it is the weakest/least prioritized cognitive function.

everyone has thoughts and feelings, its how its processed.. or not processed. its not just simple I vs. E, N vs. S, T vs. F or P vs. J. the tests are preliminary so i dont care too much for them. imo its more effective to understand the cognitive stacks of each type and how each behaves during prime, normal and stressed situations. like astrological signs/aspects, each type can operate in a healthy or unhealthy manner.

LOL


Crying isn't always irrational, though.

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posted December 16, 2020 10:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sauerkraut     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Crying isn't always irrational, though.

of course not. i never said it was irrational. there is always valid reason when someone is upset. your sister was a d*ck for mocking you. my brother and family did that to me too. i come from a family where it was not okay to cry and i would try to stop myself too. it made me so stressed out that i became irrational. i was more so talking about breaking point. crying in itself is a very rational human thing.

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posted December 18, 2020 04:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hikaru29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've been tested INFJ and my big 3 is Taurus, Sagittarius, Gemini. Doesn't seem to correlate.

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posted December 19, 2020 05:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ithinkimightbewrong     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i can't stick to intp or infp...and i have a stellium in gemini in 12th house

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posted December 19, 2020 07:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Brenda_S     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Dumuzi:
i test as an enfp (occasionally infp or enfj but always xnfx) but i'm not personally into mbti so i can't weigh in on it chart wise

have a very close intj friend into both who may know more than me but he uses vedic so it may be nakshatra based


Interesting to see a water lacking chart be an F. I guess that may be your strong Libra side.

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posted December 19, 2020 07:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dumuzi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Interesting to see a water lacking chart be an F. I guess that may be your strong Libra side.

🤷‍♀️ if you go by where the stars actually are i'm lacking air

i'm definitely not a thinker though, at all, anyone who knows me well can say as much

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posted December 19, 2020 07:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Brenda_S     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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i havent been into mbti for awhile either. i claimed to be intp for a long time and probably still do. i thought my type had changed because i began understanding feelings better and didnt really resonate with the people in the intp groups anymore. plus change is always a variable right? i joined a bunch of other mbti groups to see if i resonated with them - mainly infj, entp and infp. i found out i couldnt relate for the most part and intp still resonated the most. im sure a lot of people are mistyped so those groups might not be the best for data. also i dont think its that clear cut - intps can be into art and infps can be into math.

off the bat, you seem more intp than intj (or infp) because you are open to options - in an analytical/logical way. the cognitive stacks are so different too. i think looking at the cognitive function stack of each type is probably helpful in figuring out which type is a better fit. our functional strengths probably dont change that much even if we become more balanced with our inferior functions. i take feelings into consideration so much more now when i make decisions but they are still filtered through logic and thinking. generally when someone meets me irl and i am not in reserved mode, they will see the Ne and perhaps an inferior Fe. i still naturally emote like a child no matter how deeply i feel or think. my Ti is usually not shown unless someone really knows me or in a post like this.. and for a large part, it is still pretty introverted.

i think mbti works because its simpler and more tangible than a natal chart. its been quite useful in helping me understand others and myself but i find it a bit limiting. i can definitely see where in my chart it correlates to intp. we are way more complicated and a natal chart seems to tell those intricacies better.


That's interesting, I should join those groups as well to gain better insights and see whether or not I relate.

I remember the time when I thought I was an INTJ, I really couldn't stand other INTJ's cockiness and sense of entitlement. It didn't occur to me though that I may not be that type, but in retrospect that is likely a good indicator. (Or maybe not lol)

I should look into the cognitive stacks, but off the bat for some reason each of these 3 types I look into I relate well to. Which is why it is difficult for me to figure out.

Based on what this one person told me, that INTP's very much go by the book and do things cuz that's what you're supposed to. Which I don't think I really relate to. So I guess I'm curious, do you relate to that description?

Also, another reason I think I may be an INFP is cuz I keep on typing myself differently lol, which I heard is very much an INFP trait. Besides, I really relate to its general description although I understand that may not mean anything and cognitive stacks are more telling.

Can you tell me how your inferior function plays out in real life?

One person told me that I may be an INFP with a weak F, which fits.

Also, do you consider yourself socially awkward? INTP's are said to be this way. And although I do 'feel' socially awkward, people tell me I'm not and actually the opposite which I can't understand how. I really feel that I'm just socially awkward.

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posted December 19, 2020 07:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Brenda_S     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by skynote:

Judging/Perceiving is usually where I get more conflicted... I think any of my chart placements make sense for either category, but I'd be curious what most people's MBTI types are on here!


I think you may be conflicted because of your mutable energy being conflicted with your Cap Moon energy.

Where's your Mars at?

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posted December 19, 2020 08:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Brenda_S     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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For me, it's hard to say. I feel pretty INFP. I just never understood exactly what people mean by the thinking vs feeling function, because I though thoughts led to feelings? lol Idk but it's like if you think about something it can make you cry, so to me everyone has both functions.



This is an interesting way of looking at it lol. But I guess when thinking about your personal situations or people's situations it may make you cry. But by 'thinker' I mean just thinking about things that aren't necessarily related to self or other beings. Although you're right, cuz in general anything will have a level of inclusiveness to the human specie lol.

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The reason why I believe feeler may match me better is because I take action and make decisions based on my mood or how Im feeling. I don't care about logic and analyzing things. I pretty much operate in the world not based on logic.


So this I semi relate to. I definitely make decisions based on my mood. But the 'type' of decisions will have lots of thought put into it. But I won't actually act on it till I feel triggered.
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With that being said, I also don't think that INFP's are "crybabies" if that possibly is what you are imagining, because I dont feel like INFPs necessarily cry at the drop of a hat type of emotional. Or any F type doesn't have to necessarily. At least that's what I believe! I could be totally wrong though hahaha



Lol this. I can be super sensitive, but I'll put in all my effort for it to not be apparent to the person present, until it explodes of course lol. Sometimes I refrain from talking/responding knowing that I'll start crying if I do 🤣.
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But what do you really feel suits you? Forgetting about what others may say or comparing yourself to others, do you feel you can confidently call yourself an INFP?


I wish I knew lol. When I discuss it with other people that are into MBTI I'm like yeah ok I'm pretty confident that I'm INFP. Then I may be in a certain situation that I start doubting it. So yeah I'm not sure. But I definitely relate to the description. Also, I can easily spot other INFP's and feel that I have a certain similarity to them. But also relate to other INTJ's thinking process. So it's just confusing.

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posted December 19, 2020 08:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Brenda_S     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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so I will cry and yell at the same time (if yelling is involved).

Omg this is meeee 🤣🤣🤣🤣

Do you have any Cancer placements perhaps?

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posted December 19, 2020 08:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Brenda_S     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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each type at stressed levels goes to the shadow side. i mean a very stressed intp yell-cries and becomes irrational. extraverted feeling is at the bottom of the stack so it makes sense. when triggered, it will come out to play in an immature way because it is the weakest/least prioritized cognitive function.


Lol! I yell-cry, but I dunno if it's necessarily when I'm stressed.

When I'm stressed or faced with a situation that I'm supposed to be emotional about (like an actual example that I caused by mistake which almost caused someone to get killed lol, when I nearly caused an accident on the road and if the car would've gone a bit faster he would've not been able to slow down, ending up killing a guy because of me)

In the situation above, instead of feeling emotional or terribly sorry, that guilt turned into extreme coldness. I wasn't emotional at all. I remember the rest of the day everything that happened I was just extremely oblivious to and didn't feel a thing.

Or perhaps does that mean that my inferior function is in fact Fe?

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posted December 19, 2020 08:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Brenda_S     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Hikaru29:
I've been tested INFJ and my big 3 is Taurus, Sagittarius, Gemini. Doesn't seem to correlate.

Your Sun is in the 12th though, right? Wouldn't that make you introverted and intuitive?

Also your first house Venus maybe a bit compassionate, pointing to F. And is your Moon in the 6th house? I guess the J would make sense then?

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