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Queen Salome
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posted December 12, 2020 12:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Queen Salome     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It happens a few seconds away...
What to expect?

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mee_chryssa
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posted December 12, 2020 02:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mee_chryssa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My Saturn return will start soon too. Mine is at 4 degrees.

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Graham
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posted December 14, 2020 02:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Graham     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Queen Salome:
It happens a few seconds away...
What to expect?

Astrodienst calculates that the final exact contact of the Jupiter-Saturn conjunction will be at 18.23pm UT on 21st December 2020 (for Greenwich, UK) ... and will occur at 0Aquarius29ins11secs.

So ... I'd draw a chart for the exact second at which transit Saturn leaves its exact conjunction with your natal Saturn ... and treat it as a "born-again" chart (showing the direction/path to follow during your next 30-years-Saturn-Cycle.)

However, what events will be brought during the actual conjunction period (of transit Saturn over natal Saturn) will depend upon whether or not you have learned the lessons of the Saturn Cycle that is now ending.

For example, if natal Saturn requires you to learn (say) the value of saving for a rainy day ... expect a rainy day event to occur at the Saturn Return - with the impact of that event reflecting the extent to which you have learned to save for such an eventuality.

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MoonMystic
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posted December 14, 2020 02:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MoonMystic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@Graham , or name it The Phoenix(s) reborn. This is going to be an interesting time to witness.

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Graham
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posted December 14, 2020 02:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Graham     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by mee_chryssa:
My Saturn return will start soon too. Mine is at 4 degrees.

As a student of astrology, you are likely to be more sensitive to/consciously aware of astrological influences that the "average" person. ... So, although that average person is unlikely to feel the influence of the Saturn Return until transit Saturn is within 1degree of natal Saturn, you are likely to feel it earlier than that. ... Hence, I'd check that your Saturn Return event is not already apparent in your life - as you might be sensitive enough to 'feel" the current 4-degree-orb conjunction.

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GalacticCoreExplosion
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posted December 14, 2020 02:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GalacticCoreExplosion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A reminder. Fear is the mind, heart, Soul, Spirit, and Love killer.

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25 Because of this I say to you, you shall not take pains for yourselves with what you will eat, or what you will drink, neither for your body, what you will put on; behold, is not the soul greater than food, and the body than clothing?

26 Behold the birds of the sky, that they neither sow nor reap, neither do they gather into barns, and your Father who is in Heaven sustains them; behold, are you not better than they? 27 But who of you, while taking pains, is able to add a foot and a half to his stature? 28 And why are you taking pains about clothing? Consider the lilies of the field, how they grow without laboring or weaving. 29 But I say to you, not even Solomon in all his glory was clothed like one of these. 30 But if God so clothes the grass of the field that is today and will fall into the oven tomorrow, does he not multiply more to you, Oh small of faith?

31 Therefore do not be concerned or say, ''What will we eat?', or ''What will we drink?', or, ''What will we wear'? 32 For the Gentiles are seeking all these things, but your Abba who is in Heaven knows that all these things are necessary for you. 33 But seek first the Kingdom of God and his righteousness, and all these things will be added to you.

34 Therefore you shall not be concerned about tomorrow, for tomorrow will be concerned for itself. A day's own trouble is sufficient for it.


Boy, that dude was preachy and verbose AF...

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Graham
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posted December 14, 2020 02:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Graham     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

For guidance on determining the size of "orbs of influence" ... please see the linked article at http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum35/HTML/010625.html

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mee_chryssa
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posted December 14, 2020 04:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mee_chryssa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
For me, Saturn is transiting the house, 7th house, in which my Saturn is in at birth, so the theme is already in motion before it happens.It already started more or less 2 years ago, but I guess it will be more clear at the time of the conjunction. Maybe I'll have to confront my neighbours, since I've had some problems with them, or I could just ignore their mean behaviour.

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TensionEmpire
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posted December 14, 2020 08:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for TensionEmpire     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ours Saturns beeing in early Aquarious, Im also seeing it as when Saturn enters Aqua we will feel it more.

Saturn was alredy in Aqua wasnt it? but it went retro

very interesting that it is at the day of the solar solstice too!

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TensionEmpire
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posted December 14, 2020 08:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for TensionEmpire     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by GalacticCoreExplosion:
Consider the lilies of the field,

indeed he was

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posted December 14, 2020 09:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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mee_chryssa
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posted December 19, 2020 04:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mee_chryssa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Graham:

For guidance on determining the size of "orbs of influence" ... please see the linked article at http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum35/HTML/010625.html

Thanks, Graham! That was helpful.

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Queen Salome
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posted December 25, 2020 03:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Queen Salome     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Graham:
Astrodienst calculates that the final exact contact of the Jupiter-Saturn conjunction will be at 18.23pm UT on 21st December 2020 (for Greenwich, UK) ... and will occur at 0Aquarius29ins11secs.

So ... I'd draw a chart for the exact second at which transit Saturn leaves its exact conjunction with your natal Saturn ... and treat it as a "born-again" chart (showing the direction/path to follow during your next 30-years-Saturn-Cycle.)

However, what events will be brought during the actual conjunction period (of transit Saturn over natal Saturn) will depend upon whether or not you have learned the lessons of the Saturn Cycle that is now ending.

For example, if natal Saturn requires you to learn (say) the value of saving for a rainy day ... expect a rainy day event to occur at the Saturn Return - with the impact of that event reflecting the extent to which you have learned to save for such an eventuality.


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