posted January 14, 2021 11:35 AM            

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Originally posted by mee_chryssa:
Even with just a few degrees, the houses for some planets can change if for the TOB that we have, some planets are at the end of a house and could be in the next house, or if they are at the beginning of a house and could be in the previous house.

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you're right (though i don't use placidus ) but usually placidus accounts for this issue by reading the cusps, so like my moon is 1 degree from the descendant and while placed just behind it in the 6th house because of where it is it's read like a 7th house moon anyway same with my venus on the ascendant from 12th by 2 degrees

it's a small orb allowance (i think it's 3 degrees iirc i havent used placidus as a house system in a long time for anything other than divination) but it seems to account for the margin of error a reasonable time recording error would fit into ascendant wise

posted January 15, 2021 10:14 AM            

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Originally posted by mee_chryssa:
In the end, every minute matters.

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posted January 16, 2021 02:36 AM            

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Originally posted by Librapurr:
I don’t know then how we could rely on progress charts if certified tob could be incorrect anyway because of physical and spiritual tob, or something like a 10 hours labor.

Somebody did her chart rectification, and she got 2 or 3 different AC by different astrologers. (In Vedic)
It sounds like transits would be a more correct way of predicting than progressions.

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For example, the natal MC takes one year to progress through one degree but only one day to transit through one degree*. So, an error of one degree in the natal MC would result in progressed events that are incorrectly timed by one year and transit events that are incorrectly timed by one day. ... Hence, the timing of the transit appears to be more accurate but - in reality - it is not.

( *This is because the MC actually moves through 361 degrees in one day, rather than 1 degree. So, the one-degree-for-a-year secondary progression of the MC = 361 days of transit MC.)

posted January 16, 2021 02:48 AM            

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Originally posted by mee_chryssa:
Yes, it's kind of difficult and you always remain with that "what if it's the other sign?". I guess it's easier with long transit to figure out the degree and check them with progressions and synastry/composite.
I used Saturn transits and makes me think that Neptune conjunct ASC in 2014 and transiting Saturn conjunct Pluto in 8th house made me get involved with terrible people and used different substances, which was out of character for me, even if I am vulnerable to addictions, and after followed by nightmares and getting my body and mental state back on track, right after Neptune was out of orb conjunction and Saturn was out of 8th house. Even the people that were near me during my tough psychological transformation were gone by january 2015. Quite confused I was.
If someone can give some insight to this... I don't really trust the way I see transits through houses and planets that are there.

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posted January 16, 2021 12:33 PM            

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Originally posted by mee_chryssa:
Didn't happen yet. I am 29 years old and the only transits that I can use are the ones when my parents separated, when I went back to school, and the one in 2014, and the one in which I met the guy that I spent 6 years with him like we were married, lived together after 3 months.

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Transit sun has moved over everything in your natal chart 29 times, and you know the exact day on which they did so. ... Transit moon has done the same thing even more times.

posted January 16, 2021 09:47 PM            

For a brief generic example, the times between meeting a significant partner, falling in love and/or getting very serious, and/or moving in together, marriage, and/or some other event that symbolizes and reflects the commitment of union.

Trying to differentiate between these between transits and progressions isn't always as black and white, cut and dry as people sometimes would like it to be (or can be portrayed as).

The fact that progressions do last as long as they do, especially Solar (or beyond) ones, seems to sort of highlight this point that maybe it's often more about the process that leads to major events. Though, I would look at true ASC progression maybe more as a trigger in relation to straight up events as these are relatively quick (as far as progression goes).

posted January 16, 2021 11:46 PM            

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Originally posted by GalacticCoreExplosion:
I have noticed that at times, transits (especially Jupiter, Saturn, and Uranus) often relate more to overt events, and progressions sometimes more to internal processes that eventually lead to events that are often usually in the context of "in combo with/plus transits".

For a brief generic example, the times between meeting a significant partner, falling in love and/or getting very serious, and/or moving in together, marriage, and/or some other event that symbolizes and reflects the commitment of union.

Trying to differentiate between these between transits and progressions isn't always as black and white, cut and dry as people sometimes would like it to be (or can be portrayed as).

The fact that progressions do last as long as they do, especially Solar (or beyond) ones, seems to sort of highlight this point that maybe it's often more about the process that leads to major events. Though, I would look at true ASC progression maybe more as a trigger in relation to straight up events as these are relatively quick (as far as progression goes).

Moon seems to be in between or goes back and forth. Sometimes processes and sometimes straight up events.

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