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Topic: time of birth
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mee_chryssa Knowflake Posts: 523 From: Romania Registered: Jun 2020
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posted January 11, 2021 07:46 PM
What do you think of this site that has an app that help rectifying your birth time?https://astro-app.net/rectification.php?lang=en&appSize=0 It actually rectified my time of birth with transiting Saturn conjuncting the 12th house when we went into quarantine in march 2020. I know we all stayed home in this time, but for me was a total isolation because I live alone and I had little contact to other people until may. Has anyone tried it? IP: Logged |
Dumuzi Knowflake Posts: 3041 From: Registered: Oct 2018
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posted January 11, 2021 10:03 PM
i looked at it just now, top results were from 10 minutes before-my recorded birth time (10:23 am to 10:13 am)10 minutes before puts my venus exact on my ascendant but that's about it's a small orb to begin with IP: Logged |
Graham Knowflake Posts: 2148 From: Registered: Apr 2019
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posted January 12, 2021 12:28 AM
I have a recorded birth time of 02:10am, in a hospital that recorded births at intervals of 10 minutes. So ... fairly sure that I was born between 02:00 and 02:10am. I have previously rectified the birth time myself ... to 02:09am. The linked site returned 90 points for a time of 02:09am and 60 for a time of 02:10am. .... But the highest points score was 92 - for 02:05 02:06 02:07 02:08. However, it also stated that there was not enough hits to be certain of the birth time. IP: Logged |
Dumuzi Knowflake Posts: 3041 From: Registered: Oct 2018
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posted January 12, 2021 12:58 AM
after reading what graham wrote i double checked highest score was 78 and apparently 80 is what would be considered rectified relatively close though so 🤷♀️ also i went with unmarried but in vedic my ex comes up as a first marriage so i'm not sure if i shouldve switched that IP: Logged |
mee_chryssa Knowflake Posts: 523 From: Romania Registered: Jun 2020
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posted January 12, 2021 08:24 AM
For me, it gave me a 70% for the estimated time that my parents gave me and found a 105% for a 5:33 AM. Which puts Saturn in the 12th house.IP: Logged |
mee_chryssa Knowflake Posts: 523 From: Romania Registered: Jun 2020
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posted January 12, 2021 08:54 AM
quote: Originally posted by Dumuzi: i looked at it just now, top results were from 10 minutes before-my recorded birth time (10:23 am to 10:13 am)10 minutes before puts my venus exact on my ascendant but that's about it's a small orb to begin with
You can change the +- time to 12 hours and check all the ascendant signs for which will score more than 80%-100% with your major life events. IP: Logged |
mee_chryssa Knowflake Posts: 523 From: Romania Registered: Jun 2020
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posted January 12, 2021 08:55 AM
quote: Originally posted by Graham: I have a recorded birth time of 02:10am, in a hospital that recorded births at intervals of 10 minutes. So ... fairly sure that I was born between 02:00 and 02:10am. I have previously rectified the birth time myself ... to 02:09am. The linked site returned 90 points for a time of 02:09am and 60 for a time of 02:10am. .... But the highest points score was 92 - for 02:05 02:06 02:07 02:08. However, it also stated that there was not enough hits to be certain of the birth time.
It has to be over 80%, but most likely 100%. IP: Logged |
Dumuzi Knowflake Posts: 3041 From: Registered: Oct 2018
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posted January 12, 2021 09:05 AM
quote: Originally posted by mee_chryssa: You can change the +- time to 12 hours and check all the ascendant signs for which will score more than 80%-100% with your major life events.
🤣 i didn't even notice that i was tired when i did it, i assumed it just checked **** on its own IP: Logged |
Dumuzi Knowflake Posts: 3041 From: Registered: Oct 2018
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posted January 12, 2021 09:12 AM
this is sort of **** when you expand on it i think 🤔 because rising sign can be offset by aspects same with moon and sun and rather than life events it's asking you to go by general descriptions and guessmeh IP: Logged |
mee_chryssa Knowflake Posts: 523 From: Romania Registered: Jun 2020
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posted January 12, 2021 10:48 AM
quote: Originally posted by Dumuzi: 🤣 i didn't even notice that i was tired when i did it, i assumed it just checked **** on its own
LOL, I did the same and I was so frustrated that I have to check within 10 minutes )) IP: Logged |
mee_chryssa Knowflake Posts: 523 From: Romania Registered: Jun 2020
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posted January 12, 2021 10:50 AM
quote: Originally posted by Dumuzi: this is sort of **** when you expand on it i think 🤔 because rising sign can be offset by aspects same with moon and sun and rather than life events it's asking you to go by general descriptions and guessmeh
That's what I was wondering too. If after I find the one most likely to be for major life events, I still have to check for aspects to ASC/DC and MC/IC aspects, right? Still, with what I found, my ASC progressed to Aries and is in its first degree, so makes sense with how aggressive I've felt lately, even thou I thought that it's because I'm stuck at home. IP: Logged |
Dumuzi Knowflake Posts: 3041 From: Registered: Oct 2018
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posted January 12, 2021 01:51 PM
quote: Originally posted by mee_chryssa: LOL, I did the same and I was so frustrated that I have to check within 10 minutes ))
it didn't even register at all, i didn't even see it as for the other stuff you said i've actually had quite a lot of people tell me more recently that they're either feeling hostile or encountering a lot of hostility lately i have an aries moon and i can't say i've been feeling angry at all, and i'm not 100% on everyone else's charts a friend of mine brought it up rather recently and a few of us discussed it and there was a general consensus that a lot of hostility was either coming their way or people just feeling that way themselves personally i've been feeling very restless like i don't know what to do with myself and like everything there is that i can do can't hold my attention like something is coming, you know that feeling in the air just before a bad thunderstorm or something? everything feels like that to me it's been a while coming and i think it's partially due to my own transits (in vedic i'm in venus-ketu dasha about to head into sun dasha, and it's the first time in my life i'll actually experience a dasha that isn't tied to my first house and colored by venus and ketu so that's a huge change)but also i'm betting there's saturn/jupiter heaviness involved just my guess it's really interesting though that you mention it now too, wonder who else has noticed it aside from all that i think getting an idea of the common margin of error hospitals generally have with birth times would probably be an easier way to figure **** out i've heard it's typically like 15 minutes or so at most from a doctor friend of mine, but that if it isn't a rounded up number it's likely the correct time mileage my vary with that one nakshatra helpful if you try it with vedic then check the nakshatra your ascendant (lagna) would fall in earlier shifts mine to one that isn't quite fitting 🤷♀️ also i like legit can't remember what year my grandmother died so i was just guessing on that one IP: Logged |
Dumuzi Knowflake Posts: 3041 From: Registered: Oct 2018
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posted January 12, 2021 01:52 PM
also yeah aspects and stuff would still be important to look at, but that's why i was underwhelmed by the whole "look at this list of unaltered ascendants what fits?" IP: Logged |
Librapurr Knowflake Posts: 767 From: Registered: Jul 2019
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posted January 12, 2021 02:19 PM
With +- 50 min it gives me many options, but mostly around known tob. If I go +/- 2 hour, it suggests me to choose myself from two AC by description and goes further from it. “Automatic rectification” button gives more precise result with Scorpio AC, but this way my chart looks scary. IP: Logged |
mee_chryssa Knowflake Posts: 523 From: Romania Registered: Jun 2020
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posted January 12, 2021 05:04 PM
quote: Originally posted by Librapurr: With +- 50 min it gives me many options, but mostly around known tob. If I go +/- 2 hour, it suggests me to choose myself from two AC by description and goes further from it. “Automatic rectification” button gives more precise result with Scorpio AC, but this way my chart looks scary.
For me it didn't work that option. It says that the events or characteristics I checked didn't fit with any transits. IP: Logged |
mee_chryssa Knowflake Posts: 523 From: Romania Registered: Jun 2020
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posted January 12, 2021 05:06 PM
quote: Originally posted by Dumuzi: also yeah aspects and stuff would still be important to look at, but that's why i was underwhelmed by the whole "look at this list of unaltered ascendants what fits?"
I think that option is only for the time frame of each ascendant. Regarding hostile behaviour, I think the transits play a part in it too. Mars in Aries was conjunct my Mercury last year and I was so annoyed by anything around me. I felt better when it got out of orb. IP: Logged |
mee_chryssa Knowflake Posts: 523 From: Romania Registered: Jun 2020
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posted January 12, 2021 05:56 PM
So, for the time of birth for you that have the correct one through birth certificate or you are sure of it, it gave you high points to your chart?I don't have my time of birth for sure. My dad says it was in the morning around 10-11, that my mother was at the hospital at 2 am, but she says that she gave birth around 12 pm. I just remember that I was in my teen years when I calculated my ASC online and it gave me a Cancer ASC, but I remember I just entered 12 pm, which I didn't know at that time. I might have just entered what ever came to my mind at that moment. It's so frustrating not knowing the correct time of birth. I went to the hospital to find out, but they only gave me all the other information about my birth like weight. IP: Logged |
Dumuzi Knowflake Posts: 3041 From: Registered: Oct 2018
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posted January 12, 2021 07:22 PM
quote: Originally posted by mee_chryssa: I think that option is only for the time frame of each ascendant. Regarding hostile behaviour, I think the transits play a part in it too. Mars in Aries was conjunct my Mercury last year and I was so annoyed by anything around me. I felt better when it got out of orb.
with 30 minutes my chart goes to 94 for 9:54 am changes my ascendant nakshatra from chitra to hasta, would have to compare those in vedic edit: 98 for 9:52 am and a lot before it IP: Logged |
Dumuzi Knowflake Posts: 3041 From: Registered: Oct 2018
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posted January 12, 2021 07:58 PM
quote: Originally posted by mee_chryssa: So, for the time of birth for you that have the correct one through birth certificate or you are sure of it, it gave you high points to your chart?I don't have my time of birth for sure. My dad says it was in the morning around 10-11, that my mother was at the hospital at 2 am, but she says that she gave birth around 12 pm. I just remember that I was in my teen years when I calculated my ASC online and it gave me a Cancer ASC, but I remember I just entered 12 pm, which I didn't know at that time. I might have just entered what ever came to my mind at that moment. It's so frustrating not knowing the correct time of birth. I went to the hospital to find out, but they only gave me all the other information about my birth like weight.
probably 11-ish then i'd imagine since it falls in the same range both of them think
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Librapurr Knowflake Posts: 767 From: Registered: Jul 2019
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posted January 12, 2021 08:17 PM
quote: Originally posted by mee_chryssa: For me it didn't work that option. It says that the events or characteristics I checked didn't fit with any transits.
In one combination, it didn’t work. The second, it showed something weird. When I changed AC, the button gave a result.
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Hikaru29 Knowflake Posts: 3006 From: Asia Registered: Nov 2018
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posted January 13, 2021 02:55 AM
This app put my time zone as GMT 7.30 but it should be GMT 8 so I doubt the accuracy of mine. Anyway my top result is only 67%. IP: Logged |
Kannon McAfee Moderator Posts: 4668 From: Portland, OR - USA Registered: Oct 2011
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posted January 13, 2021 09:44 PM
Roughly a year ago (?) I tested this app with known verified charts accurate to less than 1° on the Asc. The app couldn't get either chart to within range of what could be considered a rectified chart for either one. I tested both by putting parameters of birth time half to half an hour of what it should have pinpointed and it couldn't do it.An app/software is only as good as the programmer and I emailed the programmer to ask if it is based on primary directions and he said yes. That's the problem. Garbage in, garbage out. ------------------ Soul Stars Astrology by The Declinations Guy: Expert birth chart rectification IP: Logged |
mee_chryssa Knowflake Posts: 523 From: Romania Registered: Jun 2020
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posted January 14, 2021 03:39 AM
quote: Originally posted by Kannon McAfee: Roughly a year ago (?) I tested this app with known verified charts accurate to less than 1° on the Asc. The app couldn't get either chart to within range of what could be considered a rectified chart for either one. I tested both by putting parameters of birth time half to half an hour of what it should have pinpointed and it couldn't do it.An app/software is only as good as the programmer and I emailed the programmer to ask if it is based on primary directions and he said yes. That's the problem. Garbage in, garbage out.
Yes, it seems flawed. It gave me an Aquarius ASC with 103 points and a Scorpio ASC with 99 points. I guess it would have been helpful if there was an app like this because finding the ASC when the time of birth is questionable is pretty hard. IP: Logged |
Librapurr Knowflake Posts: 767 From: Registered: Jul 2019
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posted January 14, 2021 09:29 AM
It would be very helpful if there’s a correct app like that. I’m thinking if we should consider AC to be +/- numbers of degrees by default? I’ve never looked at my AC as being precise despite of having tob.
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Dumuzi Knowflake Posts: 3041 From: Registered: Oct 2018
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posted January 14, 2021 10:54 AM
quote: Originally posted by Librapurr: It would be very helpful if there’s a correct app like that. I’m thinking if we should consider AC to be +/- numbers of degrees by default? I’ve never looked at my AC as being precise despite of having tob.
yeah ascendant probably is + or - a couple degrees in many cases but doubtful it's ever more than that that's only problematic for me with vedic nakshatras because if i was born even 6 minutes earlier than the recorded time my lagna nakshatra changes IP: Logged |