posted April 10, 2021 01:57 AM            

And, in my experience of astrology forums, this kind of thread/topic is usually read by many people that are not actively involved in its discussion - which often results in some non-participating novice/fledgling astrologers erroneously concluding domestic violence features in the life of EVERYONE who has this indicator in their natal chart, and frequently leads on to the subsequent harassment/bullying of those (known to them) whose natal charts do contain the 'undesirable' astrological indicator.

However ... this is just a comment that my personal code of ethics obliges me to make here. So, I apologise unreservedly to Astrogirlie for breaking the LL forum's unwritten rule of "do not offer advice which has not been asked for".

posted April 13, 2021 12:32 PM            

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Originally posted by Ayelet:
Afflicted Mars in the 4th house, perhaps?

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posted April 13, 2021 12:35 PM            

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Originally posted by Graham:
My concern about exploring this as a general topic on the Astrology 2 board is that (say) "planet X, in sign Y/house Z conjunct planet A, in sign B/house C" CAN indicate domestic violence ... but (when seen in the context of a specific-and-whole chart) MAY actually indicate something completely different.

And, in my experience of astrology forums, this kind of thread/topic is usually read by many people that are not actively involved in its discussion - which often results in some non-participating novice/fledgling astrologers erroneously concluding domestic violence features in the life of EVERYONE who has this indicator in their natal chart, and frequently leads on to the subsequent harassment/bullying of those (known to them) whose natal charts [b]do contain the 'undesirable' astrological indicator.

However ... this is just a comment that my personal code of ethics obliges me to make here. So, I apologise unreservedly to Astrogirlie for breaking the LL forum's unwritten rule of "do not offer advice which has not been asked for".
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@graham- Thank you ! no worries(:

posted April 14, 2021 09:11 PM            

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posted April 29, 2021 05:16 AM            

In that relationship, I don't think I intentionally provoke his anger. I have to say, there's high insecurity about the relationship, because:

- I was popular at that time with men. I think he feared losing me and felt rejected when I said I was too young to get married and the relationship was just two weeks when he asked me, like, we both need to know each other first, the family, etc, before making a serious commitment like marriage.

- I was a very private person at that time, didn't like people knew all of my relationship problems immediately, kept everything to myself first until I found the solution, but he was the opposite. What he did was the fastest way to draw people's attention to our relationship and he let in the potential "relationship intruder". He took his female friends words about me having another man. Which later, he cheated with one of those female friend.

- My quiet nature in the relationship and "take it or leave it" attitude in the relationship got him a nerve because all he knew about woman in a relationship was complicated: wanted to know her man's activity, jealous/ possessive, loved to chat or talk about small little things, etc, but I got his point that he wanted "attention" from me and made him feel secured but my nature wasn't like what he wanted me to be. So whenever I asked him a break up (because I didn't want he hurt me with cheating anymore and blamed me just because he forced a change in me), he didn't like it.

I am Scorpio Pluto generation and he is Libra Pluto generation. That makes his Mars making a hard aspect to my Pluto.

posted April 29, 2021 02:10 PM            

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Originally posted by hearttreasure:
Been there. I have to say the classic Mars/Pluto in synastry.

In that relationship, I don't think I intentionally provoke his anger. I have to say, there's high insecurity about the relationship, because:

- I was popular at that time with men. I think he feared losing me and felt rejected when I said I was too young to get married and the relationship was just two weeks when he asked me, like, we both need to know each other first, the family, etc, before making a serious commitment like marriage.

- I was a very private person at that time, didn't like people knew all of my relationship problems immediately, kept everything to myself first until I found the solution, but he was the opposite. What he did was the fastest way to draw people's attention to our relationship and he let in the potential "relationship intruder". He took his female friends words about me having another man. Which later, he cheated with one of those female friend.

- My quiet nature in the relationship and "take it or leave it" attitude in the relationship got him a nerve because all he knew about woman in a relationship was complicated: wanted to know her man's activity, jealous/ possessive, loved to chat or talk about small little things, etc, but I got his point that he wanted "attention" from me and made him feel secured but my nature wasn't like what he wanted me to be. So whenever I asked him a break up (because I didn't want he hurt me with cheating anymore and blamed me just because he forced a change in me), he didn't like it.

I am Scorpio Pluto generation and he is Libra Pluto generation. That makes his Mars making a hard aspect to my Pluto.

He only became violent when break up topic was in the air or I would leave him. His Mars aspect: opposite Saturn, and opposite Pluto in different planet sign.

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posted April 29, 2021 05:17 PM            

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Originally posted by Astrogirlie:
Not sure if this is the right place to ask this or if I should move it under the synastry forum. What could indicate domestic violence in a relationship? Is it possible to even pin point something like that between two individuals? Thanks (:

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Most times I see that the individual who experiences domestic violence has already been exposed to it prior to the relationship via parents or early home environment.

Sometimes the (default) modelling of our parents/maternal givers of what constitutes a "relationship", can condition us into thinking what defines emotional security/safety for us(IC). This for better or worse.

For instance if I grew up with Mars/Moon conj in 4th. And had no other alternative reference points from which to evaluate the relationship dynamics in my own home etc. I can (at worst) repeat my parent's toxic behaviours in my relationship. Or attract someone who resembles what I am used to from "home"(Ic). And be so magnetized to them.

So say Mars rules the 7th and is in the 4th conjunct Moon and BOTH square Uranus in 12th.One manifestation may be that I am likely either a very touchy("testy") individual in relationships. Or am drawn to people who exhibits traits of being temperamental or "testy".

If Moon is rules the 3rd,the abuse(at worst)could be verbal. Or we have a lot of arguments that get loud, demeaning and very hurtful.

The square to Uranus could suggest that these arguments and standoffs start at any given time over anything. And may be very disruptive up to a point of landing us in jail(Uranus in 12th)

Moon/Mars natal conj in 4th however also suggests that as "chaotic" as this is to others external to me.It is to me what I grew up under & am used to. 🤷🏿‍♂️

posted May 05, 2021 10:25 PM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
... And had no other alternative reference points from which to evaluate the relationship dynamics in my own home etc. I can (at worst) repeat my parent's toxic behaviours in my relationship. Or attract someone who resembles what I am used to from "home"(Ic). And be so magnetized to them.

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