posted May 10, 2021 09:20 AM            

it's an interesting question i just can't really imagine how to answer it given that the system used is dependent on being born on earth

posted May 10, 2021 09:34 AM            

The spacestation would be between earth and moon! A Love Child.

When you get caught between the Moon and New York City...

posted May 10, 2021 09:39 AM            

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Originally posted by mirage29:
You could always do Heliocentric chart.
The Earth and Moon appear together on that chart.

The spacestation would be between earth and moon! A Love Child.

When you get caught between the Moon and New York City...

(music) The Best That You Can Do
(Christopher Cross, Arthur Theme, 1981, lyrics)
[3:57] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=toMRbadxC4E

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forgot those exist, interesting thought

how would you measure time of birth though? you couldn't could you? time on earth is measured based on the placement of the sun and **** right? and time zones count for a chart but in space they couldn't exist

edit: also could you even get a proper date for the chart? there's points where it's tuesday in one spot on earth and monday on another how would that work in space? it couldn't technically could it?

and if it can't be calculated then their birth time can't actually be recorded right? not to earth standards i imagine

posted May 10, 2021 09:51 AM            

They have coordinates measured from earth points.

e.g. The failing Chinese Rocket entered Earth's Atmosphere and they tracked it the whole way.

When it was going over Gaza, they had a time, and location recorded. It was still up in the atmosphere. Didn't come down until it reached the Maldives, off coast of southwest tip of India.

That's how (I think) they could pin it.

There's another calculation where they base coordinates off measuring two-bodies -- barycenter.

Hypothetical Lilith (Black Moon) uses that method. That's the little black moon crescent and cross you find in Astrodienst charts.

- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barycenter

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Spacestations -- look at their math in sidebar.
- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiangong-1
- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skylab

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EVENT Chart
Columbia Disaster
- http://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Space:_Columbia_Disaster_(STS_107)
They have a record of the precise time of explosion (in mid-air, over an earth coordinate).

Skylab Chart
Dissolved in the air, but birth time was earth launch
- http://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Space:_Skylab_(space_station)

posted May 10, 2021 10:15 AM            

yeah but those are earth centric right? would something earth centric work for someone not born here? 🤔 even the lilith point and nodes are calculated in relation to earth

we could calculate where the station is in relation to earth but when we make a natal chart we use the specific location on earth to measure it

am i missing something? lol the more i think about this the more i feel like maybe i'm missing something

going to look at the links in a bit though, can't focus well right now

posted May 10, 2021 10:35 AM            

- http://www.npr.org/sections/krulwich/2014/08/20/3 41641164/if-youre-born-in-the-sky-whats-your-nationality-an-airplane-puzzler

We can measure Declinations .. but 'that' is not an 'Elevations' based chart.

Dalai Lama was born in a higher-Elevation.
There's no flat-mapping for Elevations?

Latitude, Longitude, Declination, ?Elevation?

Ha! I thought his chart had a Grand Cross.
Some human 'adjusted' his Birthtime?
Rectification... Rated "C" on the Rodden Scale.

{pun} It's STILL "up in the air" 'when' he was born.
- http://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Dalai_Lama_XIV

posted May 10, 2021 03:13 PM            

Also would the signs be 30 degrees each like on Earth? And the Moon would easily be conjunct Earth, depending on distance. Maybe not so close as the space station though.

posted May 10, 2021 05:54 PM            

actually really appreciate having to think like that sometimes

really wish we had some experimental space babies though 😔

posted May 11, 2021 03:33 AM            

First, the location and the the local time would simply be the same as the spot on earth that it was passing over at the instant of birth. Which I imagine would apply just as it would for a birth on an airplane, or a ship a couple of miles above an ocean floor on the surface of the ocean.

The question becomes what do we do about the ascendant? At a hight of 254 miles above the surface, we could expect the earth to block approximately 90° of the field of view. Say, all of the 3rd and 4th houses, and roughly half of the 2nd and 5th. Planets in the 1st and 6th should be viable.

I've heard discussions about how planets just below the ASC/DSC axis sometimes can be treated as if they are in daylight since the atmosphere ever so slightly bends or refracts light at the horizon. Perhaps this principle would be extended to the entire 1st and 6th houses, as well as those just beyond the cusps into the 2nd/5th.

posted May 13, 2021 11:28 AM            

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Originally posted by Gemini Blues:
A bit of theory craft:

First, the location and the the local time would simply be the same as the spot on earth that it was passing over at the instant of birth. Which I imagine would apply just as it would for a birth on an airplane, or a ship a couple of miles above an ocean floor on the surface of the ocean.

The question becomes what do we do about the ascendant? At a hight of 254 miles above the surface, we could expect the earth to block approximately 90° of the field of view. Say, all of the 3rd and 4th houses, and roughly half of the 2nd and 5th. Planets in the 1st and 6th should be viable.

I've heard discussions about how planets just below the ASC/DSC axis sometimes can be treated as if they are in daylight since the atmosphere ever so slightly bends or refracts light at the horizon. Perhaps this principle would be extended to the entire 1st and 6th houses, as well as those just beyond the cusps into the 2nd/5th.

Now, get enough distance from earth that the earth itself becomes just another planet, say on a voyage to mars, and you need a completely new system.

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posted May 13, 2021 02:20 PM            

In this World, we have some very tall buildings.
- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_tallest_buildings

If a baby is born on one of the top floors,
because the baby was born under its roof and address,
the birth chart would be 'grounded' down to the steel foundations IN the earth.

The theory of Elevations could mean the introduction of a whole other delineation-- describing traits, etc.

Would have to use Forensics, to research Elevations and come up with added chart descriptions.

The WAY the original Astrology was written/formed was through thousands of years of Observations, passed down to other astrologers by verbal traditions at first, adding later the keeping of written logs, diaries, journals on the effects of positions of planets.

We'd have to revisit those,
and add a whole other Dimension??