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Topic: Hard Pluto transits
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manymoones
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posted August 19, 2021 01:21 PM
  
No squares but have experienced the conjunctions. A constant state of rebirth. IP: Logged |
Ganeshastro14
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posted August 19, 2021 04:42 PM
Thanks for your accounts.
How did these hard pluto transits affect your love life ? IP: Logged |
Stawr
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posted August 19, 2021 06:40 PM
I got married! When Pluto was 4 degrees squaring my Sun, and two degrees away conjunction my Saturn. Pluto is in my 9th house, so I get to go new places in the country to visit where my husband is working. I've been to 4 new states in the country going on 5! IP: Logged |
TensionEmpire
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posted August 20, 2021 03:08 AM
dont know where pluto actually was,but must have been somewhere after exact opp. I went "celibatary" for 2 years around 18 years old.
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teasel
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posted August 20, 2021 03:30 AM
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Originally posted by StubbornVirgo:
I unfortunately will have to endure Pluto eventually opposing my Virgo stellium (Sun, Mercury, Virgo) and squaring off my Gemini planets (Moon, Mars) as well. I’ll be in my 50s, then. Hopefully I’ll find a way to deal with that in the next 2 decades.  Pluto finally going direct and passing over my Cap ASC will be a doozy, and is more than enough for me right now. I’ll be glad when it’s no longer opposing my Chiron, but then I have a Pluto-NN conjunction to look forward to after that. And of course, Pluto in the first. 
Oh my god, I hadn’t really thought beyond Pluto in Aquarius. It’s going to be square my Uranus/ascendant, when it goes into Aquarius, also trine my moon/Venus/SN. Square my dad’s sun, which scares me. Square the Taurus’ sun/moon, too. After that, I think it’s positive aspects, until 14 Aqua, my IC. Maybe something will take me out before then. I dread the future. So I’m going to go back to ignoring reality for a while, with The Good Place. IP: Logged |
Stawr
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posted August 21, 2021 08:17 AM
The Pluto square sun transit I notice has pushed some older Libra's into retirement. Like my dad (63) and my boss(50something)My mom has Capricorn Moon and she is doing her job part time and started doing notary work part time. And then my poor brother in law's dad killed himself about 5 years ago. He has Cancer moon. My Cancer friend (July 18) has had to see his mom go into a downward spiral. Also he can't seem to get a lucky break with dating and such too. IP: Logged |
anska5
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posted August 21, 2021 10:59 AM
Pluto has been moving through my 7th house for the past 10years, conjuncting my capricorn sun, capricorn mercury and capricorn venus (still conjuncting mercury and venus). When my mother died a couple of years ago much too soon and after a brutal battle with cancer pluto conjuncted all three planets... I took time off from work to care for her during her final months and while I treasure this experience, supporting someone you love so much in their final moments has been the most difficult experience of my life. It definitely tests your physical and emotional endurance to the limits. So while I came out of this experience knowing how strong I am, I can't say knowing that has given me in any way the feeling it's been a positive learning experience. The pluto conjunctions, especially since it's started also conjuncting my venus, also brought a number of other deeply painful experiences: a connection with a (very plutonic) man that was the strongest physical attraction I've ever experienced, and while I think that physical attraction was mutual,he ultimately rejected me. Also, the friendship with my oldest friend broke down (having said that, she has just contacted me, but I'm done she hurt me too much) and last but not least almost 5 months ago I was in an accident which left me with multiple complicated leg fractures and a few other problems. (Surgery, lots of metal in my leg that will need to be taken out in another surgery next year, still not back at work, not sure whether I will fully recover) Those who are interested in the astrology of accidents, on the day of the accident not only was pluto conjunct my mercury and exactly conjunct my venus; sun transited opposite my natal pluto, venus transited opposite my natal pluto, mars was also exactly opposite mars..Bottom line - for me pluto conjuncting three personal planets in my 7th house has been the toughest time of my life and it feels like a continuous, relentless onslaught of painful experiences that feels existential, like you don't get a break to come up for air. Maybe one harsh pluto transit, especially when we are talking about the conjunction of opposition, can offer some educational lessons, but to me multiple, combined transits like I've been experiencing are just too much and I wouldn't wish them on my worst enemy. *edit: another surgery next year, not next week. IP: Logged |
greenlex
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posted August 21, 2021 05:07 PM
Uh man Pluto transit is really something...does it always involve the death? Since it started to square my Venus and progressed to Sun and soon to Mercury I had 3 of my family members die, and my mental health is nonexistent like thinking of suicide daily. When I look at my natal chart it has extremely scary formations of Neptune Cap 29 degree as the apex of both Yod (Moon-Mars/NN) and T-square (Saturn-Mercury). Can anyone help with interpretation or advice to survive Pluto transit over that thing?IP: Logged |
anska5
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posted August 22, 2021 06:11 AM
@greenlex
I don't think it has to absolutely mean death in the literal sense, hard pluto transits can show up in various forms. Unfortunately, i can't speak for other trnasits than the conjunctions. A close friend of mine had the pluto conjunct venus transit years ago, in her case pluto conjunct venus just showed up in the form of a completely impossible (mutual) love with a married man. She's always been quite cerebral, this experience completely transformed her love nature (venus) in a way. Or rather the experience showed her how deeply and intensely she can feel.
Another friend also has had the pluto conjunct venus transit and in her case it just meant she transformed her looks (through several plastic surgeries).
My mother developed and was diagnosed with cancer during her pluto conjunct venus transit, but died when saturn was conjunct her moon, mercury and venus.The important thing is really making sure you have strong emotional support. Be it through professional help or close friends. I couldn't have survived the last 10 years without two very close friends. If you lack a support network, please, please please seek professional mental health help. Given the thoughts you are having it sounds like it's already an absolute emergency and please don't wait a moment longer. No one is an island and in times of crises even the strongest person will need to reach out and seek help if it's not readily available through friends/family!! IP: Logged |
Ganeshastro14
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posted August 22, 2021 07:22 AM
Can these transits mean you're gonna experience power struggles, obesession, possessivness with your partner ? With composite Pluto conjunct sun, venus, mercury... What do you think about it ? I'm a bit worried actually  IP: Logged |
anska5
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posted August 22, 2021 08:27 AM
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Originally posted by Ganeshastro14:
Can these transits mean you're gonna experience power struggles, obesession, possessivness with your partner ? With composite Pluto conjunct sun, venus, mercury... What do you think about it ? I'm a bit worried actually
They could but don't have to, the people I know who have/had the same transits as me have experienced these transits very differently. Even with the composite aspects..with the (plutonic) man I mentioned in my post I had sun conjunct pluto and mars conjunct pluto in composite in 7th house. Also in the 7th house was the composite moon (conjunct composite sun). I was obsessed and as I said I think he felt the intense attraction just as much as me, but he reacted very differently to the connection (by rejecting the intensity) and could walk away from it. So I think it also depends what (natal aspects) you bring to the table and just because there are these composite aspects it doesnt mean BOTH will react to the relationship/connection the same or a certain way.
Galactic's interpretion I've been following very closely in the various threads and he seems to be so spot in most of his interpretations, i also found his response on here very poignant. Maybe he can respond to your questions some more.
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Ganeshastro14
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posted August 22, 2021 09:59 AM
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Originally posted by anska5:
They could but don't have to, the people I know who have/had the same transits as me have experienced these transits very differently. Even with the composite aspects..with the (plutonic) man I mentioned in my post I had sun conjunct pluto and mars conjunct pluto in composite in 7th house. Also in the 7th house was the composite moon (conjunct composite sun). I was obsessed and as I said I think he felt the intense attraction just as much as me, but he reacted very differently to the connection (by rejecting the intensity) and could walk away from it. So I think it also depends what (natal aspects) you bring to the table and just because there are these composite aspects it doesnt mean BOTH will react to the relationship/connection the same or a certain way.
Galactic's interpretion I've been following very closely in the various threads and he seems to be so spot in most of his interpretations, i also found his response on here very poignant. Maybe he can respond to your questions some more.
He has scorpio sun, moon and venus all conjunct pluto. She has a libra stellium and pluto doesn't aspect her personnal planets (but she has the pluto transits since the relationship got serious).
With the libra stellium, how may she live that pluto energy ?
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Stawr
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posted August 22, 2021 01:44 PM
Before Uranus went rx I was again very frustrated with my living situation while dealing with work crap. Things have calmed down since Uranus went rx. But it was certainly a sneak preview of Uranus squaring, nodes, mc, IC, moon and Pluto and still conjunction my Mercury. So when Uranus goes back to squaring that stuff...
Pluto will be away from squaring my Sun a little more. Everything was seriously getting to me last week, and I have been in recovery mode after hauling arse. IP: Logged |
greenlex
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posted August 22, 2021 04:03 PM
@anska5 Thanks for the advice, I do feel lucky for having a good support network, I was looking into going to therapy already and you are right it's a good time to go.IP: Logged |
Kannon McAfee
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posted August 22, 2021 06:06 PM
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Originally posted by Ganeshastro14:
Can these transits mean you're gonna experience power struggles, obesession, possessivness with your partner ? With composite Pluto conjunct sun, venus, mercury... What do you think about it ? I'm a bit worried actually
Possibly. But we can always be willing to see outward conflicts as an outward picturing of our own internal issues. More importantly, we can see the transits as a window of opportunity to learn; we can consciously co-create with the universe the most benevolent outcome (peaceably imagine a good outcome on all sides). During Pluto's transit conjunct my Moon, I moved in with my now-wife, then we got an apartment of our own. Then we got married. No thing worth remembering went awry in our relationship. ------------------
The Declinations Guy — I still do some astrology part-time (specialty: birth chart rectification), but my life mission is my new journal on Substack. Health Positive! IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted September 03, 2021 02:03 PM
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Stawr
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posted September 08, 2021 01:30 AM
A handful of people 50 and up with cardinal suns and or moons have had a parent or two pass on, including in laws. This Pluto square for me is too much with Uranus opposing and squaring my chart. IP: Logged |
teasel
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posted September 08, 2021 01:38 AM
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Originally posted by Stawr:
A handful of people 50 and up with cardinal suns and or moons have had a parent or two pass on, including in laws. This Pluto square for me is too much with Uranus opposing and squaring my chart.
I'm under 50, and I lost my mum five years ago. Uranus was on my Ceres/Chiron/Sun, too. IP: Logged |
StoneMoon
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posted September 08, 2021 08:40 AM
I agree with and really appreciate Kannon's views. I am currently experiencing Pluto conjunct Moon (again), and then when it goes direct it will oppose my Sun. But for me, it's also sextile my ASC and trine my Mars. So while it may be bringing death to some aspects of my life, it's also bringing strength and empowerment. I have welcomed it as an opportunity for growth. Right now it's in my second house so I am experiencing a lot of change in my material and financial world, and in how I contribute to it. I am finally starting to understand the growth potential I have with my income and how I want to live. For me, I think the "death" has been of my past me. I am really shedding my beliefs of who I have been in the past, and also my oldest child went to college. I am facing a death of my former identity, and reconstructing a new one. For me, it's a welcome change! IP: Logged |
Stawr
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posted September 08, 2021 04:58 PM
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Originally posted by teasel:
I'm under 50, and I lost my mum five years ago. Uranus was on my Ceres/Chiron/Sun, too.
I am so sorry  It's not fair. My Libra boss lost lost her mom in 2018. She couldn't train me properly when I started. My dad Libra Sun and Mercury, and Cancer Moon lost his mom(2019), mother in law(2011)
Applies to my mom too Capricorn Moon My mother in law Aries Sun and Cancer Moon lost her dad (2020) and father in law (2017) I met my cousin in laws friend at her shower. She is a Cancer and she lost her dad around 2020. (I'm assuming covid) A college professor (Aries) lost her dad to Covid in 2020. IP: Logged |
Stawr
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posted September 08, 2021 05:03 PM
One of my best friends 28 degree Cancer. His mom has severe mental illness. It's like she is not the same person she was in his childhood. My brother in law has cancer moon and his dad committed suicide around 2017-18. I am excited for Pluto to go into Aquarius for him , as if that can bring him some relief from his pain and suffering. IP: Logged |
spacecadet42420
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posted September 09, 2021 01:11 PM
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Originally posted by Ganeshastro14:
Any experiences with pluto transits squaring venus, sun and mercury ?
How do these transits show up ?
I am currently going through a Venus trine Pluto transit and went through a Pluto trine Sun transit recently as well. The transiting Pluto transit to my Sun was like an ego death, and what I assume a Saturn Return would feel like. I would say that most people grow up and change all throughout their life but I am nothing like I was before that transit. I was very reckless and didn't care about my life and then being faced with multiple life or death scenarios encouraged me to change for the better. Which I guess directly translates to ego death since Sun - Ego and Pluto - death. Transiting Pluto trine my Venus has been quite the ride as well. I broke up with my boyfriend of 6 years around the beginning and the way I view relationships has completely changed. I have a Virgo Venus, so I was already picky as it was but now I will never settle for less than I deserve even if that means never finding a partner. It has shown me the ugly side of a lot of people and I'm sure that that also has a lot to do with the current state of the world and peoples shadow sides coming out to the forefront. But this transit has encouraged me to take relationships way more seriously. I do not do short term dating now, I date to marry. I will not entertain a courtship if it does not have the potential of leading to something serious. I used to be all for meeting new people and just admiring the beauty of an expiration date to the "relationship" and getting to know people deeper than just an aquaintance level but after Pluto's arrival, I am taking things more seriously. Interested in other peoples experience with this as well! Anyone had a Pluto conjunct Ascendant transit lately??? I've heard that can be linked to near death experiences. Like true near death experiences, not just "oh I also got into a car accident" sort of thing. IP: Logged |
GalacticCoreExplosionV2
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posted September 09, 2021 04:08 PM
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Originally posted by spacecadet42420:
...Anyone had a Pluto conjunct Ascendant transit lately??? I've heard that can be linked to near death experiences. Like true near death experiences, not just "oh I also got into a car accident" sort of thing.
My Mom's body died of cancer when T. Pluto was in her 1st House, and a day after it went retrograde. If that is true about NDE's though, that's interesting. I could see Uranus, Neptune, and/or Jupiter also being linked since a lot of people who experience NDE's come back with greater spiritual awareness. IP: Logged |
StubbornVirgo
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posted September 11, 2021 12:22 AM
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Originally posted by spacecadet42420:
Anyone had a Pluto conjunct Ascendant transit lately??? I've heard that can be linked to near death experiences. Like true near death experiences, not just "oh I also got into a car accident" sort of thing.
I’m currently going through this transit. I’ve had several NDEs but none lately. I hope to never have one again. IP: Logged |
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